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 BMW X5 2003 vs. BMW 5 series 2005, Which one is better in overall?

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jags
post Apr 5 2014, 11:59 PM

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i am not saying the 320i is a piece of shit bcos you are driving it. the 2.0 litre engine is an outdated engine. that is why you have a bad impression of bmw. I don't wish to argue with you, if i was insulting, i apologise. I find it really irritating when people come up general statements like "RM10k also not enough to maintain a bmw" or "BMW cannot last for more than 10 years". at least the other guy came up with figures (although it is highly inflated)

QUOTE(kahjye @ Apr 5 2014, 11:41 PM)
hahahaha thank you for enlightening me .

yes 320i is piece of shit and u can f*** me all u want  doh.gif

i dont really care much as i do not look in to any 2nd hand cars.
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post Apr 6 2014, 12:00 AM

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QUOTE(jags @ Apr 5 2014, 11:54 PM)
btw what is your budget bro?
My budget is Rm70k at max. I can find X5 2003 at 60K. But 2005 Magnesium engine E60 is around 90K. So I am short a lot. But sometimes I see people sell it much cheaper for urgent cash to cash buyers.
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post Apr 6 2014, 12:02 AM

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QUOTE(DrBarbarian @ Apr 5 2014, 11:48 PM)
have u tried the x5D??? that's superb!!!!!!
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Sorry, out of my league right now.. doh.gif
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post Apr 6 2014, 12:05 AM

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bro the best advice i can give you is to find someone knowledgeable to follow you when you are out hunting for the e60. if you have no experience, at least take the car for an inspection to the mechanic of your choice before you seal the deal and make sure the mechanic has proper bmw diagnostic tools. that way you know what you are getting into. the e60 is a complicated beast, before you commit yourself, go to forums specializing in bmw's and just read up all of it.


QUOTE(omerhalit @ Apr 5 2014, 11:56 PM)
Pictures helped!
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jags
post Apr 6 2014, 12:08 AM

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be very cautious if someone wants to sell you their car cash. if you were taking a loan, the bank will be there to take care of your interest (or is it theirs hmm.gif).

i think RM70k is on the low side. when looking for used cars, cheap doesn't mean good.

QUOTE(omerhalit @ Apr 6 2014, 12:00 AM)
My budget is Rm70k at max. I can find X5 2003 at 60K. But 2005 Magnesium engine E60 is around 90K. So I am short a lot. But sometimes I see people sell it much cheaper for urgent cash to cash buyers.
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post Apr 6 2014, 12:13 AM

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QUOTE(jags @ Apr 6 2014, 12:05 AM)
bro the best advice i can give you is to find someone knowledgeable to follow you when you are out hunting for the e60. if you have no experience, at least take the car for an inspection to the mechanic of your choice before you seal the deal and make sure the mechanic has proper bmw diagnostic tools. that way you know what you are getting into. the e60 is a complicated beast, before you commit yourself, go to forums specializing in bmw's and just read up all of it.
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Yeah, I've been reading BMW forums last 2-3 days. As you said, E60 is a complicated car. It must be checked with computer. Otherwise, won't know what's coming up.

Anyway, thanks for the advice.
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post Apr 6 2014, 12:20 AM

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why not get this... can nego to 70k... kereta boss yo!... u put a african country flag in front polis dare not saman u... u speed also dare not saman u

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http://www.mudah.my/BMW+735i+E65+A+V6+Japa...03-26521700.htm
http://www.mudah.my/BMW+735i+E65+Sedan+Pea...te-19643674.htm
http://www.mudah.my/BMW+735i+E65+-25706868.htm
TSomerhalit
post Apr 6 2014, 12:30 AM

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QUOTE(alaskanbunny @ Apr 6 2014, 12:20 AM)
why not get this... can nego to 70k... kereta boss yo!... u put a african country flag in front polis dare not saman u... u speed also dare not saman u

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The only problem with it is the roadtax. Other than time, gorgeous interior and features at that price.

X5 has 3.0 engine but it is SUV. So, the roadtax is cheaper.
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post Apr 6 2014, 12:41 AM

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Go for e60 early batch the engine is super tahan lasak and spare part is also cheaper compare to n52. Of cause lci last batch is the best but the price still above 100k++
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post Apr 6 2014, 12:41 AM

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QUOTE(omerhalit @ Apr 6 2014, 12:30 AM)
The only problem with it is the roadtax. Other than time, gorgeous interior and features at that price.

X5 has 3.0 engine but it is SUV. So, the roadtax is cheaper.
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true la... from d sound of it ts not very rich also... zzzz, 3.0 engine...

one thing good bout x5 i think d side window is too high for mat rempit to smash n steal handbag, right?
DrBarbarian
post Apr 6 2014, 09:36 AM

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QUOTE(jags @ Apr 5 2014, 11:54 PM)
RM20k!!?? for gearbox!!!??? bro, i hate to break it to you, but you basically got screwed!!!!! rebuilding the 6hp19 gearbox is roughly about RM5-RM6k. I have never heard of a complete failure of the gearbox before. usually its the valve body (brain of the gearbox). BMW doesn't recommend changing the ATF, and that really caused a lot of problems, usually to the valve body. Rebuilding the valve body is about RM3.5k.

About the active steering, a weak battery can also cause lots of errors to come out, and one of them is the active steering. did you try resetting the active steering?
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do read my replies properly b4 yanking away.....
teikwing
post Apr 6 2014, 06:00 PM

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QUOTE(omerhalit @ Apr 6 2014, 12:13 AM)
Yeah, I've been reading BMW forums last 2-3 days. As you said, E60 is a complicated car. It must be checked with computer. Otherwise, won't know what's coming up.

Anyway, thanks for the advice.
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If you search hard enough, you are able to find the pre-LCI E60 (525i or 530i, M54 engines) for about 60-70k. In fact, a friend is looking to let go his E60 530i for circa 70k. 2003/2004 model with all the bells & whistles (Active Steering, Comfort Seats, Dynamic Drive etc.). Genuine low milleage as well. Do PM me if you are interested.
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post Apr 7 2014, 01:04 AM

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Dude, check this out

http://www.mudah.my/Bmw+e60+525i+b+m+sport...05-26361814.htm

or

http://www.mudah.my/Bmw+e60+a+525-25618490.htm

This post has been edited by GARYPKK: Apr 7 2014, 01:06 AM
TSomerhalit
post Apr 7 2014, 01:13 AM

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QUOTE(GARYPKK @ Apr 7 2014, 01:04 AM)
Seen both of them. The second one is fake. The first one doesn't pick up. Regularly checking 3-4 car websites daily to not to miss any chance biggrin.gif

Thanks for your concern.
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post Apr 7 2014, 11:40 AM

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When some offerings are way off the market trend, one will doubt what is in it.

No way a E60 yr 2005 can cost below RM50k, not now when it's still able to get HP financing. Wait for it to past 10 years of age, then the value shall tumble more.

Like teikwing mentioned, the 530i is the better bet tongue.gif Alway buy from direct owner, then you will get genuine mileage and maintenance history. Used car dealer can't wait to temper the mileage reading and destroy the maintenance record in order to sell you with a good margin.

My younger brother used to own a 520i 2.2 inline 6 for 6 years, I understand that after 4-5 years the car gave him some headache. I-drive electronics part been replaced one, air-cond system down (IC, compressor and cooling coil). If not mistaken he spent more than RM10k for the i-drive thingy and air-cond repair.

Engine and gearbox were good, just need discipline on schedule maintenance on them.

If you want better reliability on a BMW, E39 5 series is a better bet, but old lar wink.gif
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post Apr 7 2014, 12:51 PM

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QUOTE(amdxp @ Apr 7 2014, 11:40 AM)
When some offerings are way off the.....
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Yeah. Too good to be true. But once I knew someone sold his BMW 5.20 E60 2003 for rm48k. Urgent money need. It was 2 years back. And 2 weeks after I bought my car. Missed it very bad.

By the way, No one suggeated X5. What is wrong with X5 series?

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post Apr 7 2014, 02:48 PM

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yeap..gotta agree...4 potters BMW lost their DNA...BMW's tradition is to have 6 cylinders and I have no idea why they're introducing the 4 cylinder turbocharged ones
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post Apr 7 2014, 04:35 PM

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QUOTE(omerhalit @ Apr 7 2014, 12:51 PM)
Yeah. Too good to be true. But once I knew someone sold his BMW 5.20 E60 2003 for rm48k. Urgent money need. It was 2 years back. And 2 weeks after I bought my car. Missed it very bad.

By the way, No one suggeated X5. What is wrong with X5 series?
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The E53 is quite rare among common drivers hence the lack of inputs from forummers here.

BMWCM is your best bet for infos.

http://www.bmwclubmalaysia.com/newforums/i...m/119-x-series/

http://www.bmwclubmalaysia.com/newforums/i...eaper-remedies/
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post Apr 8 2014, 12:15 AM

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It will cost you 3-5k pa to maintain the E53 (road tax 1600, insurance 1500-2500, include windscreen, engine oil 600 plus brake pads, sensors etc); if there are no major problems.

Battery and tyres cost around 1200 each if need replacement, but should last 3 yrs. Hopefully there is no problem with the expensive to repair ABS, airsprings and aircond systems; broken power windows cost 600-800 to replace.

A well maintained 2003 E53 is still a pleasure to drive if you ignore minor irritations like missing pixels in the instrument panel and MID. But you should test drive and compare with the 5 series.

If really interested to buy get a full computer diagnostic confirm ID and highlight error codes.

Pax.
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post Apr 8 2014, 12:58 AM

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QUOTE(teikwing @ Apr 7 2014, 04:35 PM)
The E53 is quite rare among common drivers hence the lack of inputs from forummers here.

BMWCM is your best bet for infos.

http://www.bmwclubmalaysia.com/newforums/i...m/119-x-series/

http://www.bmwclubmalaysia.com/newforums/i...eaper-remedies/
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Had some time there reading threads. Common issues of X5 a little wierd like power windows and door handle. Waja has power window issues but come on.. this is X5. Thanks for the link.

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