So according to underthesun statement. Only GnG individual title will crash coz unsold unit n no tenant unit wont pay maintenance fee.

i believe what TS trying to bring up is the possibility of overpaying a maintenance fee.

and to me , rm400 sure is a lot, even with gym and other facility.

Actly TS taikor not willing pay the maintenance fee but want the facilities
If pay the fee oso scare ppl make money. If dun pay then scare ppl tk away his assets.

U know y gng fund Oway not enough n security quality become lousy n lousy.
Becoz of tis lar

That y, scare ppl make money but want first class service

perhaps ts misunderstand that developer in the jmc can do whatever they want in the jmc, by charging an unreasonable rate.. actually they cant lah, coz finally the management need to hand back to the purchasers nia..

do not argue with stupid ppl , it will only drag down ur level. enuf said

errr , i think , quality become worst happen if :

1) the management part only take money no do work, worst is they take money and still give bad quality maintenance. at this part , management is at fault.

2) a lot ppl at the property is not paying the fees, hence management no $ do maintenance. for this , property owner is at fault.

so mean this is a win win situation:

as long u pay fee, management happy cuz get paid, management do thing, property was maintained , well maintain = tat property will got value= owner happy, property was well kept and clean = whoever stay there also will be happy

and of course, like some already mention previously , the fee should be kept at a reasonable price, not too high not too low.

the only reason i buy apartment and condo is bcoz i m not afford to buy 1-2mil landed property at this moment. so my only choice is to buy a sub 300-400k condo and fyi , begger is not a chooser... so i have to pay maintenance fee when i choose to stay in condo .

common sense tell me i need to pay every month until i sell off the condo unit . that is for sure. u dont need to study strata title act to know about this. this is pretty common sense ,but common sense is not so common nowadays .. arent u think so ?

JMC is not a permanent thing . end of the day , they need to hand over to community itself to settle . then condo community will setup a new team aka committee member for condo

even u buy a landed property , and if u didnt pay ur quit rent / cukai pintu, local council will lelong ur stuff to clear ur debt.. this is common sense as well

mebi TS did over worry a bit

so in the end , any know how much maintenance fee is required monthly for the property mention by TS ?

well if they did overcharge for the management fee, i believe ppl who pay the fee will make some sound to reflect their concern.

Yup, ensure enough fund first only ensure management provide the good service. Sure must reasonable price but no need so worry they simply increase price becoz they can not. Except others ppl think still reasonable but u think over price then

Exactly, if 50% refuse to pay coz unhappy the maintenance fee. Management oso mati.

as much as i would like to believe into your conspiracy theory....im facing similar situation myself but your point is invalid.

Certainly for a home owner doesnt matter if you are the staff of the company....theres flawed logic that any unit owner would like to simply pay more for their maintenance fee....im among committee member of my condo unit as well...and your argument defy logic....

This is there real issue:-

1st. The maintenance fee is expensive if your unit is a low density unit. By logic everyone would like to live in a low density unit, but low density have a cost, or premium to it. You will be incurring higher maintenance fee to cover the overall maintenance.

2. The more facility your strata title unit have, such as swimming pool, gym, etc....the more expensive the maintenance fee going to be. As such, im beginning to appreciate the no frills apartment ....that would prolly not look nice on the selling brochure....but the maintenance fee it would incur would save the home owner cash in the long run.

3. Lack of economic of scale... try to engaged with a residential management company of neighbouring condo....instead of hiring your own security, contractor, try to leverage with the same company that provide their service to neighboring resident....they might be able to give you better discount. the pooling/sharing of human resource can save your maintenance cost.

4. Increasing the maintenance fee among joint management body is the last resort thing they ever want to do...why? because that will lower down the value of their unit for a subsale market....how would you feel if you are one of the committee and blatantly increase the maintnenace fee? u would have a very hard time selling ur unit back to new owner. maintenance fee of a strata unit is a among key criteria a new buyer look into when buying a 2nd hand house.

Whatever we discussed after TS first post was regarding to Strata Title Landed, high maintenance fee, management & JMC, pay the mthly maintenance fee until die or relevant about careful while buying stratified landed.

But it was not related to what issue TS started into his first post. And the project he mentioned in his first ever post is even yet to be completed but 2016.

i see, my apologies if i derail anything .

regardless....just dont buy strata property lah if u unwilling to pay the maintenance fee...

want high-class facilities and nice landscape, but refuse to pay....apalah....

Oh, no worries and not needed to be apologize. Lol

Everyone's lifestyle is different due to personal preference or maybe limited by personal financial capability. For me, I prefer a good stratafied development property. I have been staying stratified properties for the past 15 years. Paying maintenance from Rm 200 to over Rm 1,500 now.

Never regret. You pay what you get

aiyo, don't want pay maintenance fee and worry it goes up every year due to being set up by developer very easy one.

You go buy a piece of land, build your own house by hiring ur own contractors and then viola. Move in and set maintenance fee as RM0 each month.

P/S: Your wife will still ask for maintenance fee to plant trees, water garden, buy pots, hire grass cutter (handyman to cut grass) etc.

Boss same advise fr me, just skip wateva projects u dun feel comfortable with. Especially the paying part. Or best is to put in effort to b the chairman and try to set a new regulation tat benefit all. Eg. No charges for those who nvr use the swimming pool, gym, BBQ area etc etc. it's even beta if can allow those who dun like landscaping can oso skip the charges.

I ll b one of the happy man to hav all the nice landscaping but not paying anythg cos I dun like it. Anw just an example. Dun hav to reply to me. Pls think.

I wish to hire u as my jmb chairman without imposing any charges but the gng ll b superbly maintained.

I came across am Indian in a gng refused to pay the fee, and just drive thru few times damaging the gate when guards denied his entry. Jmb can't do athg apart fr sending demand letter n billing for damages. Tis Indian is a gangster there. Rich but arsehole.

Now he is being sued. Dunno the outcome but hope he ll b penalized.

I just dun like to c tis type of idiots around. Hope TS is not one of them.

Btw TS pls oso teach some Kung fu how to figure out who n who likes or dislikes sthg and the best possible way to charge them based on their liking.

thanks.