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 4 Critical Signs of a Bubble Market V5, Are the signs already there in Malaysia?

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post Apr 6 2014, 09:54 AM

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QUOTE(AmayaBumibuyer @ Apr 6 2014, 09:43 AM)
Hey i said previously, Even when cars are overpriced people are still buying so nowhere can property price crashes. Dont ask ur fren laa. Ask people here in lowyat forum theg can tell u. Unless they die die die wanna win debate one and willing to say that cars are not overpriced in malaysia.

So what? U want to criticize me for not buying a car Rooney? Again? When u told ur frens? When? Just now? After u read my comments u ask ur fren is it? Piidah rooney.

Change ur nick again la. Ur an embarrassment to the DDD community.
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car price does not depend on us, The car itself is overprice but that is due to government taxation and import duty policy. It is not the car distributor purposely increase the price of the car,they don't want to have a reduced profit margin anyway.

People still buy it thinking that they don't have a choice. People for example want a better and safer car that's why they buy cars even though it is priced higher compared to US or UK.

As for housing price, if everybody thinking it is overprice, surely there will be not much sales and some of the existing property flippers will start feeling the heat and sell some below market price,just to get some money back or to limit their loss.

It is not wise to compare house and car, it works differently. At least we all know we have no power in determining the price of car, it is not overprice in a sense that the high price is attributed by taxation and import duty policy of our government.

I myself do not over commit in property market and just use 10% of our household income for the monthly payment to pay for a condo so me and my wife at least have a place to stay for the time being.

I don't say that property market will go down, but i don't say it will go up either. The most important thing here is not to over commit. As for me, either the house price is going up or down, at least I have a place to stay. Regardless of what is going to happen in the future

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post Apr 6 2014, 10:07 AM

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QUOTE(AmayaBumibuyer @ Apr 6 2014, 10:01 AM)
See when u say we have no power to determine the price of cars, but we have to determine the price of properties? Tell u it is the other way around. Property increase is genuine demand and genuine cost. Cars maybe got genuine demand but have false cost.

If we all unite and all of us dont buy cars for a year, i guarantee u that the governement will get the message and price will go down. Fat chance of that happening because car price sales every year is increasing.
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that will probably happens when the sun rises in the west and sets in the east. I certainly do not want to wait for that and jeopardize my family safety by buying sub standard car. 6-7 years ago ,I could not afford a safer car and stuck with a perodua which is not exactly a safe car. Are u saying i should wait for the price of cars to go down and I will only buy after that happens. Wow, your logic is certainly flawed.
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post Apr 6 2014, 10:15 AM

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QUOTE(AmayaBumibuyer @ Apr 6 2014, 10:10 AM)
Nope i am just saying that i would rather buy a property rather than a car. That is my logic so it is not flawed. So ur logic is rather buy a car than rather buy a property for ur family is it? I believe that logic is flawed.
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errr, you are assuming that I don't buy a house. Yes you are correct in a way as I only bought a condo 3 years ago. However I don't over commit and spend only 10% of our combined income for this condo. Regardless price is going up or down, I still have a place to stay and I am properly protected in a case even that the BLR increase 2 fold from current level, even though that is unlikely to happen. I am more consevative type of person, I won't go buying anything without having enough cash to pay for the installment for at least 4-5 years.
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post Apr 6 2014, 10:29 AM

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QUOTE(AmayaBumibuyer @ Apr 6 2014, 10:23 AM)
Bro read properly. I dont assume anything. U dont think i know that u got a house? The way u argued i know u got a house.

My statement is this and i repeat.

I rather buy a house than a car. And i told that jolok guy, even when cars are overprice people are still buying so what chance that property will crash when people are still buying expensive cars? And already excepted that cars are forever going to be xpensive. Thats it.
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Ok. i get you now. sorry for the misunderstanding.
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QUOTE(ManutdGiggs @ Apr 6 2014, 11:34 AM)
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or maybe they just want to sell it faster before the property market slumps or stagnating.
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QUOTE(Flybirdtalkbird @ Apr 7 2014, 08:20 AM)
Soli all tai lou here....can i ask if salary range from 200k to 300k a lot? Don't tell me gov statistic ok. I just feel that many malaysian earning way above this range. Not to offend anyone. I know the heat is getting high ....
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in my industry 200k to 300k is norm for people with 5 to 10 years experience. Of course this is total compensation including bonus.
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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Apr 10 2014, 10:20 PM)
I have laid out a calculation.. for this.. the reason for not holding the said prop is because there is no prospective inctease in the property after the initial boost I.e 500k to 750k..

dat y even bearing the pain to pay RPGT also they will sell.. they are call low end flippers.. there are rare long term investors in residi property espevially outskirt and non  mature  areas...

in actual fact example above.. 750k cannot go up sumore but mere turtling naik a bit by bit.. after they service their loan..

the after math of 750k example above is it will not go up to 1 million even after 5 years.. dat y they want to sell it off even rpgt pain..

the holding cost I.e loan servicing 2.2k monthly for 500k prop for 35 years.. only cost

2.2k x 12months x 5 years= Rm 132k only for 5 years.. take into account interest flactuation most 180k.. the property stops at 750k boost.. if can boost up to 1 million.. I dun see why there is a need to sell.. even after 5 years..

I.e 750k to 1 million after 5 years= 250k profit
250k profit -180k cost holding= extra 60k profit... on top of 250k profit from 500k to 750k..

they themsrlves dont forsee increase in d next 5 years dat y choose to pay RPGT and dispose early possible..
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you know that you basically describing a flipper. flippers naturally won't hold any property for long right after VP, that is why they are called flippers. they do not think of future value appreciation, just wan't to make a killing as quick as possible
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just got an email from IOI properties offering 0%/24 month ezy home package. Developers have become more desperate these days to push sales
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QUOTE(jolokia @ Apr 27 2014, 03:58 PM)
Gombak no ! Lots of reserved land cannot appreciate one,  Jalan Gombak (Inside KL boundaries yes, Inside Selangor boundaries No, Again Pasar Besar Gombak side also not good as again Tanah Rezab, that's why all condo concentrated on heading to KL side eg Prima Setapak 2,  Setapak Green,  222 residency,  288 residency,  MH Platinum,  Gombak 126, KL Traders Square.

Can see soon Malay live at one side of the road &  Chinese+lain2 on the other side, funny area.
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actually almost all the condo u have mentioned have not reached 500 psf. eq: 222,288 & setapak green. heck, even my unit over there just barely went above 400 psf.

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