QUOTE(zuiko407 @ Apr 4 2014, 12:05 PM)
I'm very disappointed that u follow old DDD footstep, shiok sendiri n gain nothing, then hide forever.
Faster go n buy one la...
Bro bear wan 2Faster go n buy one la...
4 Critical Signs of a Bubble Market V5, Are the signs already there in Malaysia?
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Apr 4 2014, 12:13 PM
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Apr 4 2014, 07:25 PM
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Apr 4 2014, 07:26 PM
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Apr 4 2014, 07:28 PM
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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Apr 4 2014, 05:59 PM) Save your breath.. dude cant differentiate btw tenanted property vs non tenanted units.. with price.. Bro bear glad tat u gathered some extra info. Edu not wasted. I have also notice that dude is also cant differentiate the working of RPGT vs stamp duty adjudication.. the former is clearly based on profit only no other inteference body to calculate for you.. Accordong to my friend exp.. prop cost 400k developer flipped 700k.. profit is total 300k.. RPGT cuts on 300k .. of couse still can discount .. on other costs Stamp duty is the one calculated adjudicated.. say bought from developer 400k.. selling 300k ( selling in need of money) stamp duty is still based on prevaling market rate by LHDN.. if they feels is 500k.. they will ask you to pay stamp duty based on 500k.. NOT 400K OR PITY YOU 300K.. if a smart ass ask bought developer 400k smart ass flippers sold 800k.. howevrr LHDN similar market rate is 500k.. screw you.. they will not rely on 500k even ttansacted b4.. they will still adjudicate stamp duty at 800k.. same unit.. Dude.. dude.. I hope to repo him.. |
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Apr 5 2014, 10:18 AM
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QUOTE(edyek @ Apr 5 2014, 09:01 AM) Boss v dun need banana n some other vege or fruit to dupe ma. UUU alwiz here till kantoi wan. Np for tat. Its way beta than DDD keep changing name. Anw the jiao lang mentioned worgen wo. I remember they accused worgen to b another person dupe. She really running out of idea liao. Anw, market so bad, jiao lang buying. Such great leader is hard to find. No wonder v hav some superb ministers giving superb excuses for all crisis. QUOTE(bcpbeancounter @ Apr 5 2014, 09:05 AM) QUOTE(bcpbeancounter @ Apr 5 2014, 09:07 AM) Boss, no need la. U ll stil c me as ME in 2020. Why need dupe??? Super strategy like super food??? |
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Apr 5 2014, 03:11 PM
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Apr 5 2014, 03:29 PM
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Apr 5 2014, 03:36 PM
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Apr 6 2014, 11:34 AM
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Apr 6 2014, 04:09 PM
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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Apr 6 2014, 04:01 PM) Let me answet for them sure got offer at cheap price one.. Boss actually I dun c old props selling or asking at the original price 30yrs ago. A vely old shop eg. Pj state 4 storeys corner shop, owner bot subsale in 2010 3.8mil now resell at 6.5mil. Guess what, it was only 400k back in late 70s. So I'm kinda lost when u mentioned the property getting old part.Wait they all reply.. if they say no discounts mean they mark up.. simple.. btw your turtling effect .. flipped properties rarely can get 90% loan margin.. like palm walk 3 750k.. so if turtle up sumore d price.. maybe can get 65% or 70%.. if that was the loan margin.. you need to park 200k to 300k cash man..for a dsl.. for rich ppl semi d or bunglow 200k to 300k no problem.. products like service apartment.. condos.. townhouse and dsl are targetted at working classes.. therefore turtling price kills us.. it also kill you in between .. u cant offload.. and property getting old and there will be new launches.. with lower or same price.. so where potential buyers go? |
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Apr 6 2014, 04:11 PM
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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Apr 6 2014, 04:04 PM) Actually it seems you have belief that market will go up.. as expected quoting examples of 170k which now become 900k.. well and good.. Boss it's kinda high risk to even buy in 4th Q 2015 if u dun have confidence. Ppl do beta with great confidence.there should be no more hesitation just shoot all the bullets you have.. since property alwayls up.. if you really believe 5 to 6 years market ago still there.. then shoot maximum.. 5 to 6 years from now I.e 2020 or 2021 you are multi milionare already if 170k goes upto 900k expected increase is there.. |
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Apr 6 2014, 04:30 PM
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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Apr 6 2014, 04:24 PM) Thats is good late 70s is almost 30 years from now.. of course justified for such increase.. these dudes expecting the same upon VP... 2 years time got logic? Boss when u mention old prop, how old is old har???hello your old property price vs new shop price is not so far.. given the trends nowadays.. safery features and matket competativeness.. you will have to agree with me that new properties pose threads to old properties.. |
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Apr 6 2014, 04:33 PM
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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Apr 6 2014, 04:25 PM) U see property prices going few folds before 2016? I can see vacant units are increasing few folds.. Why do I c few folds in props by 2016??? Few folds is few hundred % le. U think can achieve??? If u dun think it's achievable why u put words here n there har???Anw y not buy me the kopi u owe me n let's chat la. Tired to type la. |
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Apr 6 2014, 04:48 PM
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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Apr 6 2014, 04:38 PM) I admit cosmectically.. old prop can forget about vs new shops.. look at their features.. those are srlling points.. Icic but I still find no answer to the asking price for telawi bangsar. The unit I offered to owner at 5.8m in 2012, owner not selling. Offered again in 2013 6.5m, owner oso not selling. Last wk agent called to c if I'm willing to take it with 10m. Kns. I told agent go tfk at road side this time. how to compete old shops.. customer also reject old malls.. like sg wang.. all kinna go nia.. So ur definition of old props is quite blur n falls in between black n white, grey area wo. So how exactly is a prop to b called old har. |
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Apr 6 2014, 10:27 PM
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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Apr 6 2014, 10:06 PM) Boss after 2138 posts in less than 10 mths did u find sthg tat u can clap for urself???Time to decide liao. No need sailang. Just do sthg u think is rite n get sthg u think u like. Remember cheap thg no gd gd thg no cheap. This post has been edited by ManutdGiggs: Apr 6 2014, 10:28 PM |
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Apr 6 2014, 10:53 PM
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QUOTE(kevyeoh @ Apr 6 2014, 10:37 PM) Hard to go down for gd props. Those down gao gao one I guess u n me oso nvr tot and ll nvr think of buying gua. My pov la. Those not too bad one ll hav gd responce even ex leader oso keep buying ma. Those superbly gd one ll c insiders wollap 1st. I foresee many wont sell if buyers come n tell tat bank valuation is low n they ll onli buy if vendor sell low. So time ll tell. Time ll nvr lie. Over the time its oso proven even ddd oso started or continue to pick up many props. Its gd to c tat. Even selling now oso making profit liao. So if those ddd din buy all tis while how to sell le. If its rugi who wanna sell when can hold wo. If put in market n its sold y say market down le. Unless selling at loss but malu nak tell la. |
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Apr 8 2014, 07:41 PM
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QUOTE(gspirit01 @ Apr 8 2014, 11:25 AM) They do consider if u show tenency agreements and declare this income in your income tax. I think Man Utd boss can prove this as he is a big landlord tauke! Boss, depending on bank. Last time even no TA but if u show consistency in rental collection with a nicely recorded excel sheet, almost all banks Q to giv loan. Now, some banks onli take half the income cos they think, I mean they think tenant can move away and b replaced. So its kinda fair to take onli half, at least to me. No bank ll reject the rental income as income. Just different way to define it for some kiasi banks. Howeva, the strongest bargaining power is income thru biz. The larger turnover hav ll beta chansi. Especially if u can prove a consecutively improvement for at least 5 yrs. Then banks ll oso Q for u. Nowadays, manyak tactics la. Some smaller bank even offer standby cash in OD with blr-1 without commitment fee to allow potential buyers the cash to go for buying spree. Of cos the fund given is within one's capability to repay la. So dun skip repayment. Either pay early or dump more into the flexi. Banks love it cos they consider u r giving them the money to loan it back to u. No??? |
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Apr 8 2014, 07:42 PM
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QUOTE(jolokia @ Apr 8 2014, 02:06 PM) Not necessarily ! People who take loan up 70% of their income is like walking on thin ice. Boss, IMHO tat ll bring boland props especially KV into a rental market like HK sonner than expected. High debt = low or medium income earners. If props keep goin up means they r not able to catch up. Ended up renting. Richies ll stil buy. Our household debt already bubble to 86.8% up from 80.5% in one year, that alarming. Of cos, richies oso can kantoi wan. I remember I mentioned bout a tycoon collapsed recently. Sibeh boh kiasi. Now hutang ah long 50mil and kawan 50mil. Ah pah pun pening. |
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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Apr 8 2014, 03:36 PM) sorry population was wrong.. it was only 7 million plus.. and yes we are catching up with singapore price in value to value.. their HDb flat cost 400 sing ours also 450k malaysian.. Boss u should say population per sqmthis still does not negate the the fact property price do come down.. in anyway.. |
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