If you use crimdon set you wont get akkhan bonus, or you replace reaper wraps .... makes me wonder if crimson is worth the trouble.

Good info on cdr. But does paragon cdr and crimson count as a socket each ?

Looking at cookie manners bop akkhan condemn build i agree with his explanation and is what i am aiming for now.

So time to stack cdr.

What sold me was his defensive and offensive and almost instant akarat champ recast. All the criteria i wNted addressed, even the explanation how he manages to use less all resistance with thr help of secondary stat reduce elite dmg affixes to be able to gem for more str for 10k.


just to share my opinion on my build i'm switching away from.

1. shield bash - feels a bit slow. like there is a slight delay between spaming sb after another. feels like an internal cooldown. i wish it didn't do that. also pound has a really small radius, which is another down side.

2. on t6 i cannot tank long periods at all. also the wolf shield damage doesn't seem to be much impact on t6. until they buff buff wolf shield, i don't think i'd use that for t6 for now, seeing as there better shields for t6.

3. punish celerity better off replacing for blessed shield using a jaekobong shield to empower it more.

4. and the biggest reason i am moving away from fell of fate and heavens fury, is it the dots from hf does not proc rally..... probly not an issue if your using eberli charlo i suppose, but still u would want hf to work with rally to reduce cooldown for your other spells.

5. a condemn + akarat champ - rally and blessed shield seems the best method using akkhan set with blade of prophecy in t6. the role would be for the crussder to nuke groups of creeps deads quick. this will be my new role in group play in t6.

6. for survivability i will try toning down ares gems to compensate using elite dmg reduction on secondary, so i can use more str gems.

This post has been edited by Moogle Stiltzkin: Apr 28 2014, 07:16 AM

well i was trying to believe crusader can get a similar result like my d2 zealadin paladin. gave up on that till they make that viable (which i seriously doubt). even galileo said go out and try for yourself before you make assumption >->; how else to learn.

how does aspd work with gyrfalcon ? i understand it's not cdr based, but i don't recall it being aspd either


for the condemn build, i also use blessed shield with jaekobong. reaper wraps regens my resource back.

This post has been edited by Moogle Stiltzkin: Apr 30 2014, 09:22 AM

got the 5 set akkhan. using grandeu i unlocked full set bonus. my cdr is 40 ish... %

so now my condemn build based on cookiemanners is playable. though it feels as if 50% cdr is the max cdr you would need for this to be maxed out.

you can watch how this builds work here
http://www.twitch.tv/mooglestiltzkin

i can do t6 in my t6 group, but since im solo with some guy im carrying i can only t4 atm.


i really like the build but there is just not much room for a block chance into it. could go wolf shield to fit in more stats, but people end up just using jaekabong because it works well with blessed shield to faster proc akarat rally for the condemn build.

in terms of an offensive tank build, this seems the best atm for crusader.

gyrfalcon is good, but i notice people tend to use the phalanx archer for it. doesn't seem to be as nuke intensive, just repetitive blessed shield, seems kinda boring. i've seen a decked gryfalcon pally and he stacks lots of holy % as well as blessed shield in his gear.

so you'll need a separate set of gear if you want to build around gyrfalcon

This post has been edited by Moogle Stiltzkin: May 7 2014, 12:21 PM

im missing cc on some usual pieces. like my shield.... but because my paragorn is high, i can more or less compensate..... so the average joe, need to stick to the basic gear stats for some of the crucial stats.....

i didn't want to deal with necessarily having the perfect stats just to have a usable build, that was why i aimed for 600 paragorn to begin with. it does help quite a bit '



uh regarding that soj, it's nice it rolled chc, but unfortunately people would normally reroll that for chd..... so i guess u can temporarily use it as is with the chc....

just make sure your chd to chc ratio is 10:1 aka if your 500 chd then you ought to have 50 chc....


but in end game once fully geared, you'd want a elite dmg, str, chd, elemental stack.

normally id like vit str sock... but in bops case, you may need to seriously considering droppin vit for cdr....'

you need to get 40-50 cdr.... kinda hard without adding cdr to weapon.

i got 400k vit on my crus with cdr on wep. but then again im 600 para so i got life% bonuses.

pin this to first post





This post has been edited by Moogle Stiltzkin: May 9 2014, 11:32 AM

I've switched to heavens fury, now that they DESTROYED the instant spam recast for condemn builds in T6.

This is my new build





it's probably possible to replace the shield block passive to towering shield for the dmg bonus for shield bash, and use punish for block.

Or, i can give up punish for some other skill, while keeping the block passive.

Or i can instead use a helm of rule block helm.


These are the options to hit the 75% block cap to maximize damage on shield bash whos damage modifier is affected by block chance.


An eberli charlo isn't going to make much use of block chance for much damage mitigation compared to say a criterion, but the reason i use it is for the huge cooldown reduction for instant recast for heaven's fury ascendency, which was how i was playing my build before my T6 condemn build.

So using an eberli charlo, there no reason you have to use a block chance build like mine, just that now that blessed shield got nerfed, and i'm using the jaekabong shield, i decided to go back to shield bash because of the buffs.



I honestly feel that blizzard has screwed up big, by nerfing condemn into the ground. They were worried that people were mashing few keys together, well thats how the build works to get much usefullness out of it. And from my observation and experience farming T6 with condemn build, it was well done, but then blizzard had to screw it up ........ i hope somebody starts a petition so that they restore condemn to it's former CDR instant spam build .....


This post has been edited by Moogle Stiltzkin: May 14 2014, 05:43 AM

i think you need to use the passives and stacks before you can assess how good blessed shield is now.

you must take into account that passives have been boosted for 1 hander dmg, so maybe that offsets the nerfs in bs skill.

but then again people may switch to fist of the heaven instead using dark light


ANyhow i am streamin so you can see how well my build works in T6
http://www.twitch.tv/mooglestiltzkin



This post has been edited by Moogle Stiltzkin: May 14 2014, 08:32 AM

combust is stack fire though ?

yeah this seems to be what cookiemanner is using

I've changed my heavens fury build to fires of heaven, basically based on mannercookies shotgun build.





T6 build using iron skin


General farm not t6, for which i use horsey instead to get around easier



My previous concern was sustainability for fires of heaven, because it's a big resource spender. But apparently with akarat champion - embodiment of power, this is a non issue.

So the next issue is, just how fast can you recast akarat champion ? It's really CDR gear dependent, because the whole build revolves around nuking with your champ skill active or you're screwed.

And if that wasn't enough, mannercookie's healing strategy requires nice amounts of health orb bonus from secondary stats. This is for his wrathful skill that increases heal by 1% of your secondary stat amount. Not to mention he has near perfect stats for stuff like vit, str etc....

Seeing as i don't have the best gear, i ended up replacing horsey for iron skin. I also replaced wrathful for indestructible.

iron skin makes me more tanky to keep me alive while i'm nuking. It also benefits from my cdr stacks to be able to maintain iron skin as frequently as possible.

also with indestructible, this replaces the old akarat champ mechanic for preventing the 1st death blow. It however has a cooldown of 60 seconds i believe after each use. But it doesn't cancel out your akarat champion mode if you do get a death blow if i am not mistaken.

The biggest downside though for this tankier modification, is that i don't have room to fit in horsey which is extremely useful for mobility during t6 rift runs in my group. I hope that with the removal of the -15 movement speed, this will be less of an issue



i've optimized my gear to include heavens fury into my shoulders, torso, shield.

i'm now 41.09 cdr, but thats mostly because my shield is 5cdr, and rorg is 7 cdr. amulet and weapon 0 cdr. But still it's good that i have 600+ paragorn as it gave me that free 10 cdr to make up for my gear lacking the stat. with 41.09 cdr this build is still viable.

While waiting for champ to be ready, i still fire of heaven nuke but sparingly, and using provoke for some quick top ups, as well as health orbs from my reaper bracers.



This post has been edited by Moogle Stiltzkin: May 16 2014, 07:02 AM

from my observation im doing 40-60m crits. thats for each of the 3 beams i shoot out every 0.5-1 seconds

with the power shrine i saw i hit 100-110 m per each of the 3 beams.

from my observation im doing 40-60m crits. thats for each of the 3 beams i shoot out every 0.5-1 seconds

with the power shrine i saw i hit 100-110 m per each of the 3 beams.

http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Moogle-6806/hero/45164210

http://www.diabloprogress.com/player/moogle-6806



preferbly my rorg chould be chd chc cdr str. but lazy farm ;x

This post has been edited by Moogle Stiltzkin: May 17 2014, 10:14 AM

finally got my shoulders

the curse has finally been lifted. i didn't bother enchanting yet. i'm 400k+ hp already so i leave like this for now.




now that i got my shoulders i can use these boots. they've been silently buffed, so they can go through walls now as well




i just worry when they nerf heavens fury, i may need to go back to condemn at some point in future. so gonna have to farm a condemn shoulder like this as well

This post has been edited by Moogle Stiltzkin: May 17 2014, 12:11 PM

keep in mind i rarely solo t6. in groups 400k+ is fine for me.

then again i use iron skin ..... for people who don't >_>: hm...

600 is nice but seems as if your losing out elsewhere to get that 600.... which tells me your balance is most likely bad elsewhere


actually i'm solo t6 atm so you can check out how i perform
http://www.twitch.tv/mooglestiltzkin



This post has been edited by Moogle Stiltzkin: May 17 2014, 02:44 PM

nice drops today

My first falcon found



The best fate of the fell i found

ty

i tested it in my 4 man group since we had a monk tanker. seems playable though i'm at 300k hp. Though i wouldn't try that solo

hm i didn't know that. ty for the info

This post has been edited by Moogle Stiltzkin: May 18 2014, 09:20 PM