i stand corrected. yes you are right. insurmountable is block VAlue.

whereas stand your ground is block chance.

So we can ignore insurmountable in regards to block chance that was being discussed. still stands to reason that helm of rule (block +str + chc) with stand your ground (15% block CHANCE) is the better option.

That then leaves room for you to use....

Grandeur royalty (for multiple set effectiveness) with either a soj (elite bonus and maybe the 50 chd with holy damage modifier 20%) or a unity (less elite bonus, but you can fight in chc with chd into it)



I'm using blessed shield which does % increased weapon damage + % increased damage based on your block chance. Seems it does some decent numbers, but combust which i like is fire based.... the others are lightning and holy.

Problematic for me since my ascendency is holy, so i rather just be stacking one element damage type than having split into 2 or more


so shield bash may be better for me if i am stacking holy, and want to take advantage of a good shield to produce more damage. still need to do some testing.


PS: your playing hc so it's understandable why you playing cc role like extending effect to 10 seconds. That is probably the wiser choice for hardcore. Crowd controlling so you don't die. I was doing the same sort of thing i was being power leveled doing audience with royalty fighting snakes. Shield glare to stun, and law to stun again .. hah.

This post has been edited by Moogle Stiltzkin: Apr 11 2014, 09:08 PM

My gear upgrades today

Moogle's Crusader build 2.0 .............


created a picture album here
http://imgur.com/a/0l7ce#2




skill build


i'm using punish - celerity for increase attack speed. also it helps increase my block chance as long as i diligently make sure it's being renewed. is phys so it doesn't stack with my holy element :{ I don't really treat this as my main damage so doesn't really matter. it's more the skill utility for block, and to increase my attack speed to life on hit.


shield bash - pound. just that extra high damage to knock the elites into the ground. it's holy so i benefit from using it. the downside though is it's very small range. it does however have some sort of charging ability to close the distance. gobby raping anyone

laws of valor - frozen in terror. just a boost to my attack speed. also i chose frozen terror to work with my shako amulet for a reliable 100% stun so that my clones show up whenever i need them.

akarat's champion - rally. avoid death blows. also helps reduce my cooldowns faster especially for heavens fury. i heard there is a cooldown reduction cap, but i wonder whether rally helps bypass the cap to make it refresh faster. honestly i'm not sure. But my set combined with my shield = 99% reduction cooldown whenever akarat's is active. I can confirm now it's not 99% .... there is definitely some cap working there, but it's fast enough for recast nuking. So now i wonder whether rally is worth it or not seeing as i got akkhan set bonus and the eberli charlo shield effect from.

steed charge - endurance. just to get places seeing as how i'm -15movement speed due to heavenly might passive.

heaven's fury - ascendency. nukes everything trash and bosses alike. it helps that i got set bonus and shield to spam it more frequently. thats why it's worth using this for my setup as my main damage.

holy cause - heal whenever i use holy spells. also increases holy damage.

finery - strength gained for each gem socket in gear. more strength is good :}

heavenly strength - so i can wear the fells of the fate. all 2handed crusaders use this.

hold your ground - to increase my block chance by 15%



gear

helm
- attack speed on it. normally you'd also have chc to go with it, but seeing as i'm 55% chc i didn't bother. Also i can switch to my andariels if i needed to which has it, or i make a helm of rule and get block instead of attack speed. I'd do this especially if i found the westfall march shield which does damage on block procs, which would make the block that much better.

shoulder
- the stats seem fine for primary. it also has heaven fury damage increase for my build.

amulet
- can make clones whenever you stun (with a cooldown timer though). i'd probably want to replace this for an amy with holy dmg booster in it.

chest
- doesn't have all resistance, but instead has the heaven fury dmg increase. i'm a bit skeptical if that is the way to go, because i don't like my all res being low. but cookie manner seems to think this is the right thing to do. So if that is the case, does he intend for crusaders to use all but one or no sockets for strength gems, and instead go all resistance ? is that loss in strength worth the hf spell boost ? I hope so.

gloves
- trifecta meaning it has strength, attack speed, chd and chc. Mines a set item trifecta which is good since those are hard to come by. but if you are a fire spec crusader, you may rather be using a magefist because of the added fire bonus dmg in it.

bracer
- the reaper wrap's is good because of the holy dmg booster, and has chc, with str and vit. it's legendary skill is also amazing especially if you have a big wrath pool via secondary stat (increased wrath). So in my situation i'd spam pound, then get a pool to almost recharge my wrath. health orbs drop quite often that people don't realize. so makes topping up during and after the fights quite easy if you have issues generating enough wrath. this bracer's helps in that area. It gets really good if paired with a zero dog witch doctor in your group who spams health orbs.

belt
- lv 60 but it has chd and attack speed. i'd replace it with the lv 70 version for more main stats while still keeping attack speed and chd of course.

pants
- doesn't have vit, other than that it's fine. My hp pool is 300k+ so i can still use these pants despite the lack of vit. But down the road i definitely need one with vit in it. But if you come across the same situation as this, check how much hp you have. If it's below 300k, see if you can use paragorn points in vit and life% to get you there.

boots
- asheara's nothing fancy. if i were to use it with another asheara piece i could unlock the set bonus for 100+ all res, and the life% But figuring out which asheara piece to use..... stil deciding :/ problem is i don't have enough akkhan set pieces, to be removing any of them at this time. Also i don't have ice climbers or some other specialty boots which would probably be better for me at this point since i can't do multiple sets yet.

rings
- royalty grandeur is a must once you start getting set items. you can get some good set combos by using as few pieces as possible. this ring is awesome especially if you find a trifecta version of it.

- unity is 2nd best to stone of jordan. i'm using it since, i haven't yet found a holy stone of jordan yet.


weapon
- fate of the fell, 2handed nuker for heavens fury builds. want a higher dps version, and be able to re-roll it to holy damage if possible. i like the str and vit stats because it has so much of it.

shield
- found that eberli charlo finally. it help reduces my heavens fury cooldown for more frequent spam. this is very useful for hf builds such as mine, as it vastly reduces the need to hoarde as much cooldown reduction stats. i'm literaly don't use any.

Bit sad that it didn't come with the usual str, vit, chc, block% ; but i settled for it having all resistance because i'm rather low for ares anyway, and as long as i'm 300k+ hp i'll be okay, though i rather wish i were 400k+ hp Also i want this with 28 block or more ideally.


gear summary

overall i'm worried about all resistance being between 900-1000. Could use some feedback on what others think is the ares needed for things up to torment 6. Vit is low, but then again i'm using a lv 60 belt which i hope to replace soon. And if possible maybe try and get some set bonuses in there for that extra vit if possible.


*update

Just noticed that sets like cains just got cheap to make. so gonna be farming crafts for these

This post has been edited by Moogle Stiltzkin: Apr 13 2014, 05:12 PM

i hardly solo so hm ... and usually when i do i t1-t3 hehe.

Moogle gear v3.0 ......

I managed to find the wolf shield finally. so using that. I also crafted a helm of rule helm as well.




i had to use asheara 3 set bonus using the shoulder and boots with royalty grandeur ring because i am low on hp and all resistance.

also had to replace gems to use more all resistance ones.


it didn't matter that my helm didn't have chc, because i'm 54.50% chc without it even. And thats not even counting that some of my pieces e.g. rings and shield are not yet maxed on chc yet.

If the helm had ares instead of vit, i probably could fit back in that 1 str gem i replaced though :/



As for shield, eberli charlo is good for my hf build in all honesty, but i've always intended to use the westfall defender shield from the start. it works well with my punish skill anyway for a high block stat which is my end game. I've only so far managed to get 66 block chance (with punish being maintained of course)


the recent gear upgrades








PS: i can probably should get chc to replace vit or socket. because i can still get them via my witchin hour belt, and akkhan pants still. Or better yet all res with chc. so no socket or vit. this gives me room for str gems in socket. even without life% bonus from socket i probably can still get to 400-500k health pool.



This post has been edited by Moogle Stiltzkin: Apr 14 2014, 07:59 AM

i was farmin for helm of rule mat when the shield dropped in bounty mode t3. fighting gorog if not mistaken :/

the witchin hour i got gambling belts from kadala using rift shards.


and i was doing torment 4 rifts with some buddies when i got leg after leg. i think at one point i got 6 legs within 20 seconds ..... crazy.... 1 leg...2 leg.. 3leg..... at that point i was like

always open chests, and break breakable objects whenever you can

This post has been edited by Moogle Stiltzkin: Apr 14 2014, 09:04 AM

the diablofans explanation.

if you check my profile is lower than this. but if ingame it shows 1.2m this is because it then take into calculation my chd and chc. the diablofans video explains this




actual dps is the yellow dmg shown when you use your spells on monsters. this can be drastically different depending if you stack elite dmg&, elemental dmg%, skill dmg % , crit procs and so on....

This post has been edited by Moogle Stiltzkin: Apr 14 2014, 06:05 PM

crusader damage output example

my dps output is 15-20 million per shield bash - pound (holy). I top up my wrath using reaper wraps from orb drops. To make sure that i am able to shield bash more before i run out of resource, or enough time to allow for health orbs to drop, i make sure that i am stacking increased wrath on secondary stats on all my gear whenever possible (even in paragorn points i've maxed out my wrath resource pool). So a bigger tank lets me keep doing this consistently, with huge tops up from health orbs

Then my main dps is from the heavens fury ascency, making good use of fate of the fell, to shoot 3 instead only 1 big beam. And i can spam that every 15 seconds or less. Sooner when my akarat's champion is active. If i use eberli charlo shield, i can spam every 7-8 seconds instead roughly.

I can't see how much my HF dmg does, but looking at the skill description it improves my damage over 1000% of my weapon dmg. And it's holy based so it also takes holy element stacking into consideration. As well as dmg against elite bonuses ...... i suspect Crit hit dmg may also be factored however i'm unsure. and this is for each of the 3 beams no less. That is way more than shield bash -pound


So thats the only dps figures and i can share with you for my build. I honestly don't know what the top 50 crusaders dps and build are like. But i am aware that lightning spec crusaders using a good Darklight 1 hander, are using the Fist of the heaven -fissure to do some insane damage. But they are stacking lightning, so i couldn't really test that.

according to the diablofans video i posted, the guy mentioned that skill boosters like increased foth dmg by so and so %, is multiplicative rather than additive toward your overall damage. So it may be worth stacking. This may be okay on shoulders and chest (i got heavens fury dmg modifiers on them); but i am unsure whether it's wise to do the same for boots, belt, helm (i don't think you can get heavens fury on these. Just your regular attacks like slash.... fist of the heaven etc....) Because you will quickly run out of places for all resistance, and vitality which you need very badly. I'm already running low an all resistance.

Seeing as i use punish, should i be stacking punish into boots and helm as well ? Well without it, i do 3-4m ish damage. And this skill is physical, not even holy based, so i don't benefit from my holy stacks here. But the reason i use it is upkeep of that 15% extra dodge for my shield to proc more often at 66 % ish block rate (when punish is active).

So i cannot recommend adding skill dmg to anything other than

- shoulder (heavens fury)
- chest (heavens fury)
- bracer (holy)
- amulet (holy)
- glove (only fire is possible and this is from magefist gloves)
- weapon (only some weapons can stack increase dmg modifier. holy, cold, fire, lightning......)
- shield (i think only lidless wall and that hallowed shield can stack holy. Lidless can also stack other elemental damage as well)
- ring (stone of jordan can stack holy, cold, fire, lightning)


All resistance issues ??

I noticed that my all resistance starts dipping 900-1000 if i replace all resistance 100 on chest for the heavens fury modifier. This is one piece i am very unsure whether this is the best course of action. I don't deny that stacking HF is amazing, but it takes a toll on your all resistance stacks.

So i tried a few things to make up for it such as....

- 2 piece of asheara set items (either shoulder, pants, boots, glove) to get the 100 ares bonus. Seeing as i also use grandeur royalty ring i also get a nice 20% life bonus as well.
- i replaced my 3 chest sockets and 2 pant sockets to all resistance max gems. Except for 1 socket in pants i left as a strength gem.
- My shield rolled a socket, so i put in an ares gem. Seeing as i'm using the finery passive, i also get strength from it.


other things i could do is...
- replace my whd to have 1 defensive stat either vit or ares. in my situation i probably rather have the all resistance, seeing as i'm 400k+ hp so that isn't too big a deal for me.




how to improve strength beyond this point for me ?

i think i've already done my best to get the str stats on my gear. so this seems to be the max i can get, seeing as the gems are used currently for all resistance to stay capped. The only way now for me to increase strength, is to find gear with near perfect strength, meaning as closest as possible to max str value on that of gear. Alot of my gear is mostly roughly like 60% ish of their max str value on their pieces. So this is the only option left for me to get a higher str. Hopefully i can hit the 100k str barrier

As for vit, some of the gear like akkhan's pants don't even have vit. it's a flawed item, but the reason i got away with that was because my hp was already high. So rather than being a super amazing 500k+ crusader, i'm instead now a decent 400k ish. So vit for me, i still got to find better gear for that, before i worry about maxing out vit alongside str. TBH i rather max out str more, seeing as my vit is pretty good enough that i'm the least concerned, just as long as i have vit on the piece where it's needed, i'm fine at this point.



Anyway this is my stats using my current gear atm


had to scale back str, to tighten up low all resistance. also shuffle around some pieces to get set bonuses.

the result....


Defensive stats
477k health points pool
1033 + all resistance
armor 15.8k
block chance 51% (is 66% when punish is renewed)

offensive stats
str 9104
bonus damage against elites 23%
attacks per sec 1.55
critical hit chance 54.50%
crit hit damage 463%
area damage 50%

wrath stat
wrath pool 139
wrath regen per sec 2.5
wrath cost reduction 7.8%

healing stat
life per sec 7.3k
life per hit 4.1k
health glove healing bonus 28.9 k
globe radius 5 yards
Bottomless potion of regeneration = 60% health heal, including the special effect life per sec 37.7k hp over 5 seconds; and has a 30 second cooldown. Infinite use, isn't a consumable any longer.



My profile
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/profile/Moogle-6806/hero/43541921

http://www.diabloprogress.com/player/moogle-6806

This post has been edited by Moogle Stiltzkin: Apr 14 2014, 06:57 PM

thx for comments.

actually... i want fell of the fate but with 2.9k dmg or close to then i'd be able to do some real damage.

i just found a bombardment but it's roughly 2.4k so i'll just use for experimenting with only

scourge, is that any good ? i honestly didn't try smite from what i remember in d2, smiting was something like a stun bash if i am not mistaken.


hm you got cindercoat. reroll for 3 sockets, and go for a fire build crus perhaps ? fire build cruis use maximus i noticed.

This post has been edited by Moogle Stiltzkin: Apr 15 2014, 12:44 PM

fire builds have

magefist + cindercoat. no other element has that, that is why it's possible to stack fire more than the other elements not to mention that cindercoat reduces cost for fire skills as well.

seem's very one sided that fire is getting all the perks for best element stack atm.


since your lightning spec foth, have you considered using the darklight 1hander for foth - fissure ? i heard it's really op right now

if you can get a chc and chd str compass rose that would be nice for your amy set bonus

This post has been edited by Moogle Stiltzkin: Apr 15 2014, 08:30 PM

Crus got sidelined in terms of gear potential ....


Barb IK set - wear 3 to unlock all set bonus
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/item/immortal-kings-eternal-reign

Raekor 4 piece to unlock all set bonus
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/item/raekors-heart

And yes can combine both set. to one degree or another to unlock some of their bonuses together.



Crusader akkhan set 5 pieces to unlock full set....
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/item/breastplate-of-akkhan

meaning.... we can only choose either to use 1 different piece for shoulder, helm, pants, chest, boots, gloves ........


shoulder - zakara, homing pads

helm - mempos, helm of rule, andariels

pants - hex, stink pants

boots - ice climbers .....

gloves - magefists .......


So out of all those choices, you will only be able to wear 1 custom piece. assuming you use the royalty grandeur ring, and you intend to get the full set bonus for akkhans.

This is our crusader situation right now. So compare that to barbarian and understand that they have more options to use MORE unique gear and still unlock full set bonus. Including wearing a partial 2nd set raekor which isn't bad at all.


PS: didn't bother to include invoker set not worth considering unless your a thorn build (and intend to use sanguiary vambraces), which i am not.



also our phalanx isn't like witch doctor and barb minions where they can stay until they die. we weren't given that option


This post has been edited by Moogle Stiltzkin: Apr 17 2014, 07:20 PM

theres a 2handed sword that can let you spam it a few times in a row.

couple that with some cooldown reductions, and akarat set, then maybe .....

This is probly the way to go for t6

fire can stack on glove and chest. chest even has the resource reduction. so i'm guessing fire

another guy was telling me condemn build is op.

he use with the sword for condemn effect, and also reduce cooldown gear. and akarat champion - rally and iron skin - flash

This post has been edited by Moogle Stiltzkin: Apr 24 2014, 01:38 PM

Just found a blade of prophecy. Can test it but i dont have much cool down reduction to maximize this build. Need 50% cdr i heard

Wep 10, paragon 10, crimson set 2 piece 10. Where to get remainder 20?

Glove, amy, ring ?

This post has been edited by Moogle Stiltzkin: Apr 25 2014, 01:35 PM

Thx for the tips on cdr every1 much appreciated.

Found a mortal drama 2.6 k dps lightning with str vit cdr max wrath.

Do i reroll vit or cdr for socket.

Its 1000+ vit or 7% cooldown reduc.

I undersand bomba builds are very cdr intensive , but is it worth losing 1k vit ? Or can i make up the cdr elsewhere to still have a viable cdr to spam bombatdment ?

Also what build do people recommend for this new wep?

This is spot on. Interesting enough other skills builds are also affected.

Bombardment is physical....... fire stacking for stuff like blessed combust also conflicts.

It all comes down to not getting the benefit of holy cause our primary heal skill for holy dmg.....

Thk u.

The reason i ask is cause im not originally cdr stacked so not experienced with cdr heavy builds or bombardment. Guess that helps.

I also found a blade of prohecy with holy , str, cdr 10 and socket. Is 2.5k ish dps though.

For t6 do i bop or drama ?