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yhtan
post Apr 4 2014, 12:46 AM

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QUOTE(gark @ Apr 3 2014, 04:48 PM)
Trading house is all about VOLUME... and can be very profitable.. if you can keep increasing volume. Just look at all the listed trading house in bursa like DKSH...with net margin of less than 2% yet earnings increase year after year... brows.gif

Another BIG building materials trading house which is listed is Hap Seng Consolidated, which also on low margin, but have HUGE volume...  laugh.gif
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I thought DKSH surge in earning is due to increase in efficiency, hence the increase in profit margin? hmm.gif

If not mistaken they dispose the logistic business too
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post Apr 4 2014, 10:19 AM

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Dsonic is so dramatic sweat.gif
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post Apr 5 2014, 01:22 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Apr 5 2014, 10:34 AM)
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Well...?

Tell me what you see see?

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The recent 2 weeks huge volume implicating more and more people went in, the stock seem consolidating after the 6 days surge.

Thank u ah boon for the answer given, i know what to do on the next week icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Apr 5 2014, 01:25 PM

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QUOTE(gark @ Apr 5 2014, 01:23 PM)
What are you going to do next week? let us know first lor..  brows.gif
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I think another 2-3 days shall provide me answer, my enter position was 2.29.

But then my observation might prove me wrong if there is huge invisible hand doh.gif

Recently Insas Inari caught the spotlight of most investors recently sweat.gif

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post Apr 5 2014, 01:35 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Apr 5 2014, 10:09 AM)
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I see this a bit similar as Ah Lian case

Greed easily make human blind, sometimes sweat.gif

I flip through the announcement since IPO, their project supply of 10mil mykad to government ended last year Dec.
So is this indication of significant drop in coming quarter profit?
Until now there is no announcement regarding major contract awarded.

Fishy eh? whistling.gif

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post Apr 5 2014, 05:40 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Apr 5 2014, 02:23 PM)
229?

balls of steel or what!!! tongue.gif

when we talked, Inari was less than 80 sen woh.

apa dah jadi?
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This one i was trading when breakout, just for fun icon_rolleyes.gif

And yea, i was wearing balls with steel tongue.gif



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post Apr 5 2014, 06:09 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Apr 5 2014, 06:02 PM)
Come on...admit it..you are sked.

LOL

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Don't tempt gark to sell, later ini mari fly he will curse u laugh.gif
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post Apr 6 2014, 11:13 PM

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QUOTE(spring onion @ Apr 5 2014, 07:36 PM)
haha about the comment on DSONIC, there is a high chances of re-bounce this monday... follow up will drop dropping to rm3, or fly back its its glory pace

so if i'm a holder. i'll see what monday can do, if monday up, sell

if monday down, hold
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Let's see on 10 hrs time icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Apr 7 2014, 11:11 PM

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Boon, Dsonic still belum mati oh

This stock is so terror sweat.gif
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post Apr 8 2014, 06:01 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Apr 8 2014, 07:31 AM)
Belum mati, still so terror? tongue.gif

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Today think can gap up?

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really tak mati oh, goes up some more

I must pay respect to this stock notworthy.gif
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post Apr 8 2014, 09:42 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Apr 8 2014, 06:23 PM)
Cannot catch the movement meh?

Did it gap up?

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Apr 8 2014, 06:26 PM)
Like the boardgame Cluedo...

I suspect Ah Tan bought this stock 3.10.

I also suspect past few nights he tidur-less.

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No gap up, i saw climb up tongue.gif

If i buy this stock at 3.1, i would have earn hell lots of money

But that time i didn't bring my steel ball laugh.gif

This incident i just want to note down on my 555 note book biggrin.gif
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post Apr 12 2014, 04:08 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Apr 12 2014, 10:31 AM)
???

Can not requote me ah?

Learning about road blocks.... errr... not much value leh.....

Nah... I give some free trading lessons courtesy of my best Uncle and his home.....

1. Learn how to lose

Livermore (speaking through the fictional character of Larry Livingston) complains how he’s made a series of trading mistakes that cost him a lot of money, although he wasn’t completely wiped out. The losses, he admits, were painful but educational:

“There is nothing like losing all you have in the world for teaching you what not to do,” he says. “And when you know what not to do in order not to lose money, you begin to learn what to do in order to win.”

After going broke three times in less than two years, Livermore has this advice: “Being broke is a very efficient educational agency.” He says that you learn little from your winners because they often take care of themselves. It’s the losers that will teach you lessons to last a lifetime. And as long as you don’t make the same mistake twice, you always have the opportunity to trade another day.

2. Learn how to sit tight (this book written in 1923. tongue.gif ... investors copy trader ah? tongue.gif )

After a wild and lengthy rollercoaster ride as a speculator, Livermore believes he has found the secret to his success. It’s obvious he’s excited by this discovery, which he eagerly shares:

“After spending many years in Wall Street and after making and losing millions of dollars I want to tell you this: it never was my thinking that made the big money for me. It was always my sitting. Got that? My sitting tight!

“It is no trick at all to be right on the market,” he adds. “I’ve known many [traders] who were right at exactly the right time, and began buying or selling stocks when prices were at the very level that should show the greatest profit. And their experience invariably matched mine; that is, they made no real money out of it. [Traders] who can both be right and sit tight are uncommon. I found it one of the hardest things to learn. But it is only after a stock operator has firmly grasped this that he can make the big money.”

3. Learn to take a small loss early

Of all the lessons of the stock market, taking losses is one of the hardest for most people. Maybe it’s the need to be right, or refusing to admit they’re wrong, but many people refuse to sell for a loss. Here’s how Livermore put it: “A loss never bothers me after I take it. I forget it overnight. But being wrong, not taking the loss, that is what does the damage to the pocketbook and to the soul.”

Later, he elaborates what he learned: “Always sell what shows you a loss and keep what shows you a profit. That was so obviously the wise thing to do and was so well known to me that even now I marvel at myself for doing the reverse.”

4. Learn to ignore tips and gifts
(ahem! NEVER BE A FOLLOWER!!! tongue.gif )

If there is anything that Livermore hated, it was tips. He preferred to trade alone based on his own strategies and analysis, but when he did listen to tips, it almost always caused him grief. “Tips! How people want tips!” he noted. “They crave not only to get them but to give them.” Livermore said that trading on tips cost him hundreds of thousands of dollars, especially the kind casually given on the street by uninformed acquaintances. “I know from experience that nobody can give me a tip or a series of tips that will make more money for me than my own judgment.”

Unfortunately, even Livermore was vulnerable to tips from well-meaning friends. “Against ordinary tips you cannot guard. For instance, a lifelong friend sincerely desires to make you rich by telling you what he has done, and that is to buy and sell some stocks. His intent is good. If the tip goes wrong, what can you do?”

In addition to warning people not to trade based on tips, Livermore says you should not use the market to pay for bills or gifts. “There isn’t a [trader] on Wall Street who has not lost money trying to make the market pay for an automobile or a bracelet or a motorboat or a painting. I could build a huge hospital with the birthday presents that the tight-fisted stock market has refused to pay for. In fact, of all the hoodoos in Wall Street, I think the resolve to induce the stock market to act as a fairy godmother is the busiest and most persistent.”

5. Study underlying market conditions and trend

Much of Livermore’s success came from observing people, individual stocks, and the overall market. Here’s how he put it: “I have found that experience is apt to be a steady payer in this game and that observation gives you the best tips of all.” And, according to Livermore, “Not even a world war can keep the stock market from being a bull market when conditions are bullish, or a bear market when conditions are bearish. And all a [trader] needs to know to make money is to appraise conditions.” The importance of studying general market conditions was one of his greatest discoveries, he claimed.

Livermore also had an Eureka moment when he discovered the value of following the market trend. “Obviously, the thing to do was to be bullish in a bull market and bearish in a bear market. Sounds silly, doesn’t it? But I had to grasp that general principle firmly before I saw that to put it into practice really meant to anticipate probabilities. It took me a long time to trade on those lines.”

6. Learn how to buy and sell stocks


Livermore explained some of the methods he used to buy and sell stocks. One of his methods was to buy as soon as a stock made a new high, which he said will almost certainly bring him profits. Later, he elaborates: “I have often said that to buy on a rising market is the most comfortable way of buying stocks. Now, the point is not so much to buy as cheap as possible or go short at top prices, but to buy or sell at the right time.” He adds that he scales into or out of a stock as it rises or falls.

Livermore closely studied prices for clues to market direction. “Prices, as we know, will either move up or down according to the resistance they encounter. For purposes of easy explanation we will say that prices, like everything else, move along the line of least resistance.”

He warns, however, that although this method sounds easy, you always have to guard against your natural impulses: fear; hope; greed, and, most important, a swelled head.
Free! Free! Free! tongue.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif
You can write blog but you hardly share more your own opinions....  rolleyes.gif

Nak kena rotan ke?

LOL!
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I read read liao

But u always ask for tipsy also tongue.gif laugh.gif

And i have to agree that part, stock trading can be compulsive if your greed overtake everything.
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post Apr 18 2014, 12:34 PM

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Last time i also play divvy stock, but end up my capital gain near to zero

majority of gain derived from divvy after 1-2 years

Then ah boon gave advise, i only realise growth company can bring tremendous gain.

Let me give an example,
Those who bought Hartalega since IPO, receiving 20%+ divvy yield if based on IPO, MYEG also look the same.

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Apr 18 2014, 12:46 PM)
dun understand that part rclxub.gif
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Ops sorry, is "Capital Gain"
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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Apr 18 2014, 08:34 PM)
Ok..... study this.

http://www.theedgemalaysia.com/business-ne...tracts-win.html
Share me what you think. biggrin.gif

* This is study not ask you to pok your life *


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As a tax payer............. shakehead.gif shakehead.gif

As a minority shareholder............ biggrin.gif vmad.gif sweat.gif rclxm9.gif rclxub.gif


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post Apr 19 2014, 07:17 PM

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I saw ah Boon sharing FA analysis tongue.gif

Good job there thumbup.gif
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post Apr 19 2014, 11:16 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Apr 19 2014, 07:26 PM)
Waa... Ah Tan give me seal of approval....  wub.gif

Datasonic can buy one ah?
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Ini counter untuk org gila punya laugh.gif

Seriously this kind of huge volatility, i don't advise people to enter, just my 2 cent icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Apr 20 2014, 11:35 AM

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QUOTE(billy_overheat @ Apr 20 2014, 09:39 AM)
if that people have ball of steel, why not? control a bit the greed, earn and chaoz.  tongue.gif  tongue.gif  tongue.gif
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Ball of steel might end up getting burn/earn 10-30%, why not going for a high percentage of winning game?
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post Apr 28 2014, 05:29 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Apr 28 2014, 04:16 PM)
2010 World Cup was held in June.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2010_FIFA_World_Cup

The index dropped a lot in May itself.

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At that point of time, those who sold early May, would be looking like a champion right?
BUT the index bottomed in May itself too!  rolleyes.gif

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Now if you used that strategy/theory, would you have bought back end May or early June?  rolleyes.gif
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Ah Boon, based on the chart, i believe the drop in May was due to Europe debt crisis (PIIGS)

correct me if i'm wrong icon_rolleyes.gif
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post Apr 29 2014, 12:33 AM

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Based on ah boon chart, it is so clearly they keep passing the balls around each other hand, and then *boom*

everything gone with somebody's hand got burned

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