QUOTE(gark @ Apr 15 2014, 10:14 AM)
ok let's put aside homer for a while. what's your opinion of lost opportunity cost?
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Apr 15 2014, 10:21 AM
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QUOTE(lambethwalk @ Apr 15 2014, 10:21 AM) If in 2 years it can make up for it, and get at least 20%, i don't view that as 'lost' of opportunity cost rather better put as 'deferred' earnings. This way you will have the mentality to hold for longer term.And yes my minimum criteria for any investment is 10% p.a. 'only', no need put too high expectations... This post has been edited by gark: Apr 15 2014, 10:36 AM |
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Apr 15 2014, 10:44 AM
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QUOTE(gark @ Apr 15 2014, 10:28 AM) If in 2 years it can make up for it, and get at least 20%, i don't view that as 'lost' of opportunity cost rather better put as 'deferred' earnings. This way you will have the mentality to hold for longer term. Ah, new term... deferred earnings.. And yes my minimum criteria for any investment is 10% p.a. 'only', no need put too high expectations... ok noted the pointers thanks |
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Apr 15 2014, 11:03 AM
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QUOTE(gark @ Apr 15 2014, 10:28 AM) If in 2 years it can make up for it, and get at least 20%, i don't view that as 'lost' of opportunity cost rather better put as 'deferred' earnings. This way you will have the mentality to hold for longer term. bull market you'll usually hit it more than 20% per year 1 based on my observation. even gark can double his portfolio in a year And yes my minimum criteria for any investment is 10% p.a. 'only', no need put too high expectations... 2 years? i 2 months already 12% wor.... but the amount no much... and i suspect recent price are high.... although you all are mentioning about those satu enam thingy |
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Apr 15 2014, 11:07 AM
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My personal target is also around 7% to 10% p.a. Remember that what can be achieved with a capital of less than 50k is very different from what can be achieved with a capital of 1m+.
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Apr 15 2014, 11:15 AM
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QUOTE(wankongyew @ Apr 15 2014, 11:07 AM) My personal target is also around 7% to 10% p.a. Remember that what can be achieved with a capital of less than 50k is very different from what can be achieved with a capital of 1m+. 7-10% is a bit low... I thought most people invest in stock because they want to double or triple? |
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Apr 15 2014, 11:17 AM
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Guys, usually when they say exit at breakeven, most of the time does it include the other fees or just your entry point? Because if based on the other fees, it also take into consideration of your sizing.
This question pops out after my exit in gadang.... zzzz |
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QUOTE(hehe86 @ Apr 15 2014, 11:17 AM) Guys, usually when they say exit at breakeven, most of the time does it include the other fees or just your entry point? Because if based on the other fees, it also take into consideration of your sizing. Breakeven means what huh? If lose money, how to call it breakeven?This question pops out after my exit in gadang.... zzzz |
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Apr 15 2014, 11:23 AM
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Apr 15 2014, 11:24 AM
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QUOTE(andrekua2 @ Apr 15 2014, 11:15 AM) Warren Buffett long-term performance is something like 20%. Your statement implies that everyone is capable of achieving that. If so, then Buffett would merely be normal and would not be unusual. Also when I say 7% to 10%, I mean a real target that is realistically achievable and have been achieved in previous years as an average return for my entire capital.I do not refer to what I hope I can achieve or what I wish I can achieve.I too have earned much more than that for selected stocks over less than a year. But I have also taken losses. |
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QUOTE(wankongyew @ Apr 15 2014, 11:24 AM) Warren Buffett long-term performance is something like 20%. Your statement implies that everyone is capable of achieving that. If so, then Buffett would merely be normal and would not be unusual. Also when I say 7% to 10%, I mean a real target that is realistically achievable and have been achieved in previous years as an average return for my entire capital.I do not refer to what I hope I can achieve or what I wish I can achieve. Erm... I dont know about you la.I too have earned much more than that for selected stocks over less than a year. But I have also taken losses. Personally, I work with relative's company. Company do borrow from relatives at 6% per annum. Risk free get 6%... why bother with stock market if only targeting single digit. |
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QUOTE(lambethwalk @ Apr 15 2014, 11:23 AM) Trading is trading. Now let me ask you, why attach the time frame to your trading? Isn't that a handicap? Think about what is needed.... you have to choose the right stock... you have to choose the right price... and then.... if you have a time frame..... then it means you have to choose the right stock, right price and at the right time. Isn't this putting extra weight to your horse? Can still lari kuat kuat meh? |
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QUOTE(hehe86 @ Apr 15 2014, 11:17 AM) Guys, usually when they say exit at breakeven, most of the time does it include the other fees or just your entry point? Because if based on the other fees, it also take into consideration of your sizing. cheh... trying to show off ah?This question pops out after my exit in gadang.... zzzz heeeeehehe |
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