true that. i tested at courts just now the a58 and the focus is fast and nice too. Nikon one is slightly small for my hand. sony looks bigger than nikon d3200.
yeah just went out to survey the price which is around 1.8k for a 3300
cannot. but my budget can plus extra 600 if that 600 do make a big differ in performance. if the difference is not prominent then upgrade extra rm600 is useless for me.
I used to bias towards nikon before i did my survey coz i used to believe that nikon and canon are the best camera producing company and other cant beat their models off. But after i try to use sony a58 I feel more firm (i have big hands and fingers) than nikon. and also it looks huge (match with my big body size) than the nikon. Im getting the feel of sony but i still need more hands to hands feel of nikon coz the courts didnt charge the battery of nikon dslr.
yeah. If the leaps of rm600 really make a huge difference in performance and image quality i dont mind put the cash into it. but if the difference is just minimal, then i think rm600 should be spend on others. Well, if u guys wanna know what the reseller says, he claimed that nikon d5200 is good for that price. dont go for d3200 coz its not worth for the price. He claimed that if you wanna sell back sony, no one wanna buy even its rm500..    since im new to this field, i dunno what to believe and trust. any sifus here can tell me anything? is he talking rubbish only just to sell off his nikon d5200?

Guys, i saw that the A58 is point and shoot category in flickr. shouldnt it be DSLR? 

true that. i tested at courts just now the a58 and the focus is fast and nice too. Nikon one is slightly small for my hand. sony looks bigger than nikon d3200.
yeah just went out to survey the price which is around 1.8k for a 3300
cannot. but my budget can plus extra 600 if that 600 do make a big differ in performance. if the difference is not prominent then upgrade extra rm600 is useless for me.
I used to bias towards nikon before i did my survey coz i used to believe that nikon and canon are the best camera producing company and other cant beat their models off. But after i try to use sony a58 I feel more firm (i have big hands and fingers) than nikon. and also it looks huge (match with my big body size) than the nikon. Im getting the feel of sony but i still need more hands to hands feel of nikon coz the courts didnt charge the battery of nikon dslr.
yeah. If the leaps of rm600 really make a huge difference in performance and image quality i dont mind put the cash into it. but if the difference is just minimal, then i think rm600 should be spend on others. Well, if u guys wanna know what the reseller says, he claimed that nikon d5200 is good for that price. dont go for d3200 coz its not worth for the price. He claimed that if you wanna sell back sony, no one wanna buy even its rm500..    since im new to this field, i dunno what to believe and trust. any sifus here can tell me anything? is he talking rubbish only just to sell off his nikon d5200?

Guys, i saw that the A58 is point and shoot category in flickr. shouldnt it be DSLR? 

well, as previous post mentioned, never listen what reseller tells u. if the camera quality not up to standard, why the company still manufacturing that particular camera? if the reseller claims that not even RM500, I believe I have more than 100 unit of 2nd hand A58 and I can even earn far from my main career. as I told u, GO TRY CAMERA YOURSELF, DO MORE RESEARCH WITH WELL-KNOWN SOURCE, u will understand more than what I told u

there's plenty of experience camera user in this forum and apart of them willing to share with u, and yet u never truly believe them and u believe wat salesperson at camera shop who just keep trying to get ur sales

it's up to u of whether u listen my opinion or no. as wat vincent said is totally true. a58 autofocus not only faster than d3200, and still faster than d5200 & d5300. do u really do research of nikon DSLR history? all entry level DSLR, including d5200 & d5300, has no autofocus motor, and autofocus only works with lens with autofocus motor. and most entry level lenses with autofocus motor focusing speed is slow, and definitely behinds sony's DSLR & SLT cameras. if u were really meant to upgrade, although d90 is old model, and yet, everything of d90 is better than d5200 & d5300 especially noise performance & autofocus performance. for ur info, more autofocus point doesn't mean camera focus subject faster

as wat vincent told u, larger megapixel will only gather more noise if the image sensor is still remain same size. no point u pay extra rm600 to get extra 4 megapixel dslr? unless u have some nikon lenses for start ur photography journey. if for general use, i would prefer a58. a58 image quality is better, capture more detail, cleaner image output, compare with d5200 and even d5300

there's plenty of experience camera user in this forum and apart of them willing to share with u, and yet u never truly believe them and u believe wat salesperson at camera shop who just keep trying to get ur sales

it's up to u of whether u listen my opinion or no. as wat vincent said is totally true. a58 autofocus not only faster than d3200, and still faster than d5200 & d5300. do u really do research of nikon DSLR history? all entry level DSLR, including d5200 & d5300, has no autofocus motor, and autofocus only works with lens with autofocus motor. and most entry level lenses with autofocus motor focusing speed is slow, and definitely behinds sony's DSLR & SLT cameras. if u were really meant to upgrade, although d90 is old model, and yet, everything of d90 is better than d5200 & d5300 especially noise performance & autofocus performance. for ur info, more autofocus point doesn't mean camera focus subject faster

as wat vincent told u, larger megapixel will only gather more noise if the image sensor is still remain same size. no point u pay extra rm600 to get extra 4 megapixel dslr? unless u have some nikon lenses for start ur photography journey. if for general use, i would prefer a58. a58 image quality is better, capture more detail, cleaner image output, compare with d5200 and even d5300

I'm not "never truly believe" about the facts about those dslr that u guys told me about. I read alot about both the dslr. In DPReview, reviews from dslr users and many more, mostly they said both the dslr are equally good. But for you guys in lowyat forum, is totally different. a58 is much more better for 1.5k budget.

I really appreciate the comments and replies from you guys pros in photography. But i really hope that much patience is given to me.

One thing I most afraid of is, the accessories of the dslr for sony a58 and also the electronic viewfinder. Is the accesories cheaper than nikon? I heard we can use 3rd party accessories on nikon but for sony we cant. is it true? I need a true a58 user like u guys to comment on these few statements. electronic viewfinder (i just tested juz now at courts) , for me it looks useless since i can use the lcd to do the job.

This is my point. Exactly why I asked TS to go for the Nikon instead.
Definitely not. We have 3rd party flash, lens, bag?, tripod?, what other accessories are you looking for?

I'm not "never truly believe" about the facts about those dslr that u guys told me about. I read alot about both the dslr. In DPReview, reviews from dslr users and many more, mostly they said both the dslr are equally good. But for you guys in lowyat forum, is totally different. a58 is much more better for 1.5k budget.

I really appreciate the comments and replies from you guys pros in photography. But i really hope that much patience is given to me.

One thing I most afraid of is, the accessories of the dslr for sony a58 and also the electronic viewfinder. Is the accesories cheaper than nikon? I heard we can use 3rd party accessories on nikon but for sony we cant. is it true? I need a true a58 user like u guys to comment on these few statements. electronic viewfinder (i just tested juz now at courts) , for me it looks useless since i can use the lcd to do the job.

at first i was bias. but now im more onto sony after listening so much facts from you guys and my friend.

Let say if my camera got problem and the warranty is over, is the cost of repair is more than nikon or just about the same?

Large brands might even charge higher, sometimes.

Regarding the accessories, I'm a photography teacher in a secondary school. Most of my students use a Nikon, and they can't afford original lenses and flashes. For example,

Nikon SB900 = RM1400++
Sony HVL-F60M = RM1200++

Nikon 17-55mm f2.8 = RM4000++
Sony 16-50mm f2.8 SSM = RM1800~2200

Nikon 50mm f1.8G = RM800++
Sony 50mm f1.8 = RM400~600

Nikon 24-70mm f2.8 = RM6000++
Sony Carl Zeiss 24-70mm = RM5600+

Do you want me to list more? I used to work in a camera shop and I know that Canon & Nikon's models will have higher margin as they sell so well that the shop will bring in more stock in a much lower cost. Sony's cameras are as good as C&N's but people do not have faith in it, so the sales of Sony camera is lower. That's why most shops will try to hardsell you C&N, as they earn more.

 

How about focus point? Is it really that matter alot?

 

How about focus point? Is it really that matter alot?

if u often use specific area to focus, more focus point is allow u to having more option to choose the area u want to focus. however, it doesn't mean more focus point = faster autofocus. d3200, d5200 and d5300 has no autofocus motor. let say if u using 50mm F1.8 D lens with these body, autofocus totally not work, and the only way u going to focus the subject is manual focus.
i believe they might never told u of most DSLR, including canon and nikon, when u choose live view for focus subject instead of optical viewfinder, it will only using contrast detection autofocus, and it is slower than phase detection autofocus. sony SLT camera is using phase detection autofocus regardless live view and electronic viewfinder, thus it is an advantages for user who prefer fast autofocus with live view

I do know that more focus point is not equal to faster autofocus. More focus point allow us to focus some detail part in the image more. We can have more choices on where to focus in a picture. I prefer the pic to be detailed and more colour. I like the build of Sony that is bigger than Nikon.

TS,

You don't buy a camera for its resell value. You buy a camera to take pictures (I hope).

If you are not always chasing the latest and greatest, the A58 can last you at around 3 years if not more. After that time, who really cares about resell value?

Buy a camera that feels right for you. Don't listen to resellers. They are more interested in earning commissions rather than having your interest at heart. You are the one who's going to be using the camera, so find one that fits you and feels 'right' for you.

TS,

You don't buy a camera for its resell value. You buy a camera to take pictures (I hope).

If you are not always chasing the latest and greatest, the A58 can last you at around 3 years if not more. After that time, who really cares about resell value?

Buy a camera that feels right for you. Don't listen to resellers. They are more interested in earning commissions rather than having your interest at heart. You are the one who's going to be using the camera, so find one that fits you and feels 'right' for you.

 

The camera that feels right right now by holding it is the Sony A58. Maybe it do takes time to adapt to the electronic viewfinder because I used most of my friend dlsr with optic viewfinder. so its hard to adapt the electronic. Feel kinda awkward. 

Nikon D3200 is juz not right for big hand like me. I feel like it gonna slip off from my hand any soon or when my fingers are wet.

Slowly by exploring pictures from A58 i feel that the colour is nice and more detailed than nikon 3200. But then photoshopping also do play a role there. Right now I just need an operating D3200 to test and then I will make the choice.

http://www.dpreview.com/products/compare/s...rtDir=ascending

It seems that nikon d3200 have both contrast detection(sensor) and phase detection. while sony only have phase detection. Okay I'm very noob to this.  is the phase detection is kinda like newer technology for dslr?

 

The camera that feels right right now by holding it is the Sony A58. Maybe it do takes time to adapt to the electronic viewfinder because I used most of my friend dlsr with optic viewfinder. so its hard to adapt the electronic. Feel kinda awkward. 

Nikon D3200 is juz not right for big hand like me. I feel like it gonna slip off from my hand any soon or when my fingers are wet.

Slowly by exploring pictures from A58 i feel that the colour is nice and more detailed than nikon 3200. But then photoshopping also do play a role there. Right now I just need an operating D3200 to test and then I will make the choice.

http://www.dpreview.com/products/compare/s...rtDir=ascending

It seems that nikon d3200 have both contrast detection(sensor) and phase detection. while sony only have phase detection. Okay I'm very noob to this.  is the phase detection is kinda like newer technology for dslr?

That's why last time a580 features both phrase detection and contrast detection