Hi all, I'm planning to apply for motorcycle license and would like to seek your advice.

Currently, there are 3 licenses available:
B - Above 500cc
B1 - Above 250cc and not exceeding 500cc
B2 - Not exceeding 250cc

1. What are the prices for each?
2. How long does it take to get the license? Let's say pass the test on first try but weekends are my only time I can attend practices etc.
3. I have a D license, do I have to take the undang2 exam again?

I have only rode on a small scooter before (for 2-3 days) , wasn't very stable so I have like close to 0 experience. Should I just go for B2 license? I'm male, 170+ cm and weigh around 60kg, I'm not sure if I can handle bigger bikes. Later jatuh cannot pick it up, malu max haha

My plan is to get a 150cc bike like Yamaha Fz150 after I obtain my license and probably upgrade in the future. Have been driving a manual car for a few years now but would like to venture into the world of motorbikes.

Thanks!

If you're in CDL/PDL, dont need to take undang2 anymore, but better hurry before April. Heard that April will change the procedure for car and bike.

If you're still PDL, the P duration for bike will expired with your car. So if CDL already, after u pass the test then straight away upgrade to CDL.

If you dont plan to travel long journey (Eg. more than 100km), just get B2 is enuf.

If i not mistaken, B2 - include L course and test (RM360)

FYI, after u get L you can ride the bike.

What changes?

Sorry I not so sure, it is just rumors

But I get some official information.
Sauces

First of all, B1 is not available anymore, it's either B2 or B full. B2 would cost you about RM500 and B full about RM700, both type of package comes with a course to reactivate LDL (Learner's Driving License), practical at driving school's circuit, JPJ test, and CDL license (provided that u passed the test). How long does it take to get the license? You need to accumulate a total of 13 practical hours at driving school's circuit before you can register for test, so it depends on how much time can u commit for practice during weekends. I have a D license, do I have to take the undang2 exam again? No, you don't have to retake undang2 exam.

"I have only rode on a small scooter before (for 2-3 days) , wasn't very stable so I have like close to 0 experience. Should I just go for B2 license? I'm male, 170+ cm and weigh around 60kg, I'm not sure if I can handle bigger bikes. Later jatuh cannot pick it up, malu max haha"
I've seen a lady at 160cm+, estimated weight to be 50kg max, riding a Kawasaki Z800 (200kg+ bike), so I don't think that's a problem for you.

"My plan is to get a 150cc bike like Yamaha Fz150 after I obtain my license and probably upgrade in the future. Have been driving a manual car for a few years now but would like to venture into the world of motorbikes."
Get B Full, only if u're an enthusiast in big cc bikes, otherwise, B2 is good enough for you to ride bikes up to 250cc.

This post has been edited by louyit: Mar 17 2014, 10:04 AM

Based on the site given, seems like after April will be cheaper haha

Wow very detailed explanation! Really appreciate it!

This post has been edited by FlamingFox: Mar 18 2014, 02:27 AM

Never ride a bike before better take B2 license, later if u like then upgrade to B Full, as B full is big bike with clutch don't think you can handle it.

170cm no problem so long as you don't get those touring bike like Funduro or Super Tenere, my rule of thumb is so long both your leg can't touch the ground forget about it, can't tahan those fellow who need to find padestrian walk curb to rest of of their foot every time they stop at traffic.

This post has been edited by jolokia: Mar 18 2014, 08:51 AM

It is better to go straight for B license.

Take it from me. I have both B2 and D license. I got both cars and motorcycle. B2 although is easier, you will need to retake when you want to upgrade to better bike. A lot bike that are comfortable, stable (safer) and nice to ride are in higher cc. Furthermore some center charge B2 and B same price. So why do it twice (and pay twice) when things can be done once.

170 cm is no problem. Your height is average height. How to stop-rest is skill. There are plenty of video on youtube on how girls (that are short) riding bike and stop safely. Don't let that be psychological hindrance.

agree.... better to go straight for B Full especially if u plan to upgrade in the future.

i have both B and D.. have both cars and bikes.. and even though i went straight to B full... all my bikes have been kapcais only ahahhahaha.... but i NEVER have to worry about license.. i basically can ride any bike i want as long as they are street legal. and i also intend on upgrading end of this year kalau ada rezeki.

I disagree. It is not how big the CC. It is how one ride the bike. If one ride safely, follow traffic rule and common sense the risk of accident reduce significantly.

Look at the Mat Rempit who do superman stunt on highway. Another example is simple waiting for red to turn green. I have seen so many biker just jump it. They are dangerous to themselves and other innocent road user.

What does big cc have to do with L? I thought B2 vs B full?

L will turn into P and finally turn into a normal driver's license.

with L u can actually ride any street legal bike regardless of cc....just that ur not allowed to carry passenger and u have to renew ur L license every 3 months...and also must hang/stick the L on the front and back of ur bike.

dont be surprised if u find alot of big bike riders using L license only... hahahahaha

anyway... some good news for u since u wanna take bike license.

http://www.bharian.com.my/bharian/articles...ticle/?mutakhir

i'm interested on the B full.. and i only have D with me now...

Is this mean i can can just go JPJ and apply for B full L license and renew it unlimited?

U only have 2 years renewal for L license.

can i still able renew after expired?

can, need to retake class somemore and pay up.

I see...

Also most centers now will start to push u to take exam by 8-9 lessons.

B full is about RM 750 OR RM 660 if you go to JPJ to reactivate L license your self

if you have L (meaning you already have a car or motorcycle license )
all you need to do is go to JPJ pay RM 20 to reactive your L license,
also don't forget to bring your photo,

after that you got 3 month to get your license,

Do this if you not using agent, if you using agent pay him RM 750 ish and let him do all the work,

you need to let you L license aged a month before you can take JPJ test,
so plan ahead,

if you not confident with B full, take B2 first, its easier,


and B1 ?? anyone here know a place where we can get a B1 license ?
i search a bit and no one offering B1 class

even if not confident to take B full....i say suck it up and get the B full.. not worth it to get B2 first if u plan to upgrade later. hell even if ur not planning to upgrade, still go for B full. B2 only if you are really tight on money.

as for B1, i remember reading somewhere it was abolished so no longer can take B1 license.

while i do agree with that opinion,
i think its vary from person to person,

when i take my B full, one of my session was with a guy who never ride a bike before, and he go straight for B full,
he already fail 3 time and pay for extra training after failing the jpj test,

imagine how i have to explain to him how to balance the TiTi or keeping the motorcycle running on L turn on low speed,

So yeah i think experience do play a vital part here,

if TS serious about riding, yes i do urge TS to go B full

i also agree that it varies for individuals. i met those who went straight to B without prior experience and they can't even handle the kapcai... which is pretty tough.

i also went straight to B without prior experience, but i have been mountain biking since my secondary school days and am pretty competent on the bicycle. driving manual helps to...

so if TS is competent on the bicycle then B2 is just a tiny step up (basically bicycle with a engine) and can safely assume that it is a phase that you will get over quickly. in fact i rode the big bike for a few lessons before i ever got on the kapcai for the first time and it was insanely easy.

but if TS is not even confident on bicycle then it can be quite challenging.

Had experienced this last year. Went straight to get B full license after years of driving car.

No you cannot reactivate your L license. Now, the L test are more focus on the license you want to take. If motorcycle license, the syllabus is for motorcycle.

I had no past experience with big bike, only yesteryear experience riding kapcai. I say go get the B full.

The rumors I heard, the Singapore way of getting licensed will be followed in Malaysia - you must start with B2 and have it for few years before you can upgrade to B1 & B full.

The fees for getting the license might be cheaper but will take you years before you can get to B full.

Can I get a ballpark range of how much each of the lesen will cost right now?
B2 @ RM ?
B Full @ RM ?

From my experience, I went straight for the B Full few years ago and passed on my first time. Yes, I also fell during the practices (Kawasaki ER6N), once when stationary, another when reversing. It's okay to fall lightly.

All in all, my test was a success on my first attempt. Do note though I previously ride bicycle during my schooling days. Having some notion of balancing on two wheels definitely help A LOT.

Edit : I forgot to mention I have never ridden a bike before at all (kapchai or anything) prior to getting the license. The first time I ride bike was during the time at the practice grounds.

This post has been edited by xyekit: Dec 24 2019, 05:04 PM

I'm middle of B Full.
Bfull around 850 to 1k if no B license at all.

I remember the instructor always remind students never use front brake for B Full. WTH... even riding kapchai i mostly use front brake. Try to follow the instruction made me always overshots during emergency brakes. In the end i just use my usual style make use the front brake and no more overshots.

Sometimes we just need to use our normal comfortable way. Somemore most driving school using bikes with ABS already.

just wondering if one is totally dont have bike experience but owned a D license... should go for B2 or B full straight? As in future planning to own bigger cc bike.. Asked some academy, they say better start with B2, later fall la this and that.. are they being conservative or it should be that way?

Go fornb full straight, then start practising with kapcai first.
Save your time by taking the test twice

Good question, no right answer. In the end, it's up to you. If all goes well, then is fine.
Some tell you B full straight no problem, some tell you B2 then B full.
In some countries, not so lucky, as riders are required to complete a mandatory restricted license period.

Most people I know took B2, then B many years later.
One person I met, took B2, then B full right after that.
One person I know went B full straight after buying a 200kg first naked bike.

If money and time is not a problem, do B2 first, then ride kapcai few years - including clutched kapcai.

this is exactly what I thought, cause I dont have many time to go take the test.. as now I have some free time since RMCO..

when we taking B full... the bike we will use to practice and going for test will be straight big cc bike? cannot be like I use small bike to do test and practice... just that I am holding the B full license?

practise maybe small cc kapcai without clutch to get you started, eventually, you must master the B full bike (Virago 535 or ER6 or some other beginner friendly bike), and quite likely you'll be using the same bike for JPJ test

Yes. you will be using big bikes for learning and test. you said you no bike experience, does that include bicycle? I mean can you ride a bicycle well?

no, i can bike very well, use to be very sakai when still primary time.. riding bike doing all kinds of stunt like coming down from stairs etc..

in that case you should have no problem with jumping on a B full tbh. learning the B2 is hardly challenging for a competent cyclist and you'll probably feel bored of the circuit by your second lesson. with B full you'll have more of a challenge.

but... taking the test and getting your license is one thing, actual riding on the road is another. after you get your B full i suggest carefully choosing a bike that you can manage well.

anyways, what do you intend to ride?

I asked 2-3 academy school.. also told me to reconsider... say "bahaya".. "jatuh payah"... make me shrink a bit... for someone never touch on motorcycle before, dunno how to gauge their definition of can or cannot...

more lean toward bobber or cafe racer style bike (I watch some youtube, saying this is one of easy to manage bike, cause the seat are low, ur both leg also can stand on ground), still looking at it, but think most likely go with cheaper option first, see and test test ngam play and ride onot..

edit:

oh ya, some curious question, those ppl ride those stylo bike / big cc bike, where they usually park? are they still park in those basement parking or road side motorcycle parking? cause I been witness someone stealing 125 bike before, it was damn fast, just a split second they can start their bike can go d...kind of worry this issue also...any thing they would do to enhance security?

This post has been edited by Humanoid: Jun 25 2020, 06:23 PM

Depends on the destination .. then will consider to ride or not, most of the parking lot for motorbike in Malaysia designed with Kapchai size motorcycle in mind, so please get use to this mentality whenever you going out with 250cc and above bike (also those big scooters even though the cc less than 250 but the size is like a big bike)...

When it come to stealing.. 90% of the thief not steal whole bike, but instead they will take some precious parts and accessories attached into the bike, such as their brake calipers and master cylinders.

what should you do man... always park somewhere within ur eye sight?

i don't know what exactly the riding school's position is on this, but i suspect part of the reasons being its simply easier work for them to "teach" B full to those who already has a B2. There are bound to be cases where people could not even understand the operation of clutches in general or who are not comfortable at cycling to apply for B full only to struggle massively. so from the academy's point of view the less hassle, the better it is. this is why i asked about your own competency on two wheels.

the other issues is that the kapcai you learn with for a B2 is really not much different from a granny bicycle (i would argue that even a mountain bike has more aggressive stance) and it doesn't come with a clutch. again i say that it is barely any harder than riding a bicycle, the kapcai is just different from a clutch bike. the 650s they use for B full training have more in common to the bikes than you would be riding compared to the kapcai. since you are riding partly for the fun or it, you probably be looking at bikes that outclass your B2 a year or two down the line.

parking is really dependent on where you go. some places like 1U and Empire subang are very good to big bikes so you don't have to worry that much. most people who use big bikes to commute either commute between home and office where they know the safety of parking, or in malls that have good big bike parking or rarely park it out of sight. if you are talking about a go anywhere bike for general commuting in the city, then i will, as usual, suggest getting a scooter that thieves generally do not target.

honestly, just ditch the school and look for other school that are willing to teach u. Yes i do admit ppl who never rode a bike would become a bit hassle to teach but u already paid them to teach u. Sure its a bit hassle but if customer wanted to do it why not?

from my personal experience... its better for u to take all of them (b full, D license in one go) because u wont have time do re do it when u are getting older or when u are working. for me Big bike got to learn how to properly use clutch and all but if u are keen enough u'll get it in no time. myself need a full year to do B full license not because i cant ride big bike, but because i cant find the time to properly take the test and need to take leave from work just to take the test and what not.

so i say ef the school that dont want to teach u B full and go to other place that are willing.

i agree. they are paid to do the job so they should shut up and work

If possible, yes.. if do not know the destination's parking area.. better find the parking lot that within your eyesight. Or use other means of transportation...

I would think the main reason school's recommend a safer approach, is for safety reasons. After MCO, the learners' and exam queue is quite backed up. For B-full bike, there's usually just 1 or 2 per school. In some areas, 1 bike is shared among few schools. The last thing they want is anything to happen to that bike. At one time, there will be up to 10 learners riding bikes on the learning ground.

The school may be able to guide you at first, but really the rest is up to you. Here's what I would suggest, get an L first from JPJ. Buy a clutched bike, and go from there.

True. A lady friend wanted to get a B license, and she was told it would take 6 months because of the waiting list and the school not having enough bikes. If I ever wanted to get my B, most probably I will do it kat kampung, hopefully the waiting list is short

Seems like another underground thing need to be venture... dunno where is where to park for bigger bike...and whether if its safe.. is there any group or discussion for this? or just follow instinct haha

ya bro.. I just made my deposit after visit the school... agree dont have much time to redo again another test, since main different is the weight mainly from the bike..

yeah, went to the school. bfull bike are limited, what more now after MCO, they have many pre-MCO student need to attended to.. :/

Today a friend told me the bike at his riding school was dropped by a learner, brake lever putus. Now the school need to fix it and schedules are pushed out.

Suggest those who have zero riding experience but want to take B-full direct, buy and learn on your own bike instead of risk dropping the learner bike.
Many ppl are queuing to get their Bfull license and it depends on the survival of the bike.

haha... knowing the crappy conditions of the bike in the school, not surprised if the drop is partly due to crap bikes. lolol

I spent almost 1.5 years to familiar and comfortable with big bike only now go to continue my practice and prepare for lesson.
I feel it’s better compare to wasting time and driving school as they just let you pusing pusing~

This post has been edited by hong3831: Jul 5 2020, 04:36 PM

Take lesen pay RM650. Drop bike replace ori lever RM200. Not to mention other damages to the steering and chassis.
That's why la learning school bikes are such a crap.

Another pal of mine failed exam becoz the bike suddenly died, together with 2 other person taking test after him, and the whole batch need to come back another date to re-take.

Better take B-full when ready, avoid injury to yourself, or make it difficult for everybody else.

thats bad, retake will spend another half day or whole day time~

my driving school (IMKEDA), the 1st time u go there they'll ask u which bike u comfortable riding with and stick with it. since i ride sportsbike, i chose er6n because its easier to ride than lets say a 650 vulcan. thou there are ppl who are comfortable with cruiser bike so they use the cruiser bike for practicing and test.

i must say eventhou the bike at IMKEDA are kindda neglected, it still runs and u familiarized with its quirks. I remember the bike i ride is kindda wonky on the gear lever and there is a way for u to free the gear. as i was doing the learning sessions, i make sure that i familiarized with the bike and how it behaves.

as long as u know what ure up against, u'll be more prepared taking the test, thou sometime shit happens, at least u tried ur best.

anyways, for me la, if u are really green and never rode a bike in ur life, go for smaller bike 1st. familiarized with it.... nevermind la if its gonna take longer than usual, just practice till u are comfortable enough to ride a smaller bike then learn how to ride a big bike.

anyways, if i have any advise for those youngsters who wanna get a b full license, i say go ahead but practice alot. even myself who already have almost 24 years of experience in riding a bike (be it small or big bikes) i still practice every chances i get. u know getting older sometimes u tend to forget things lol.

I also taking my BFull at imkeda. Sitting here waiting to sign out from second practice. Haha

they open aready ah? which bike u chose? if the er6n with wonky gear shifter, u should be okay lol. thou i find the tires are kindda on the slippery side. so be careful

ya, open already. suppose do my practice this afternoon also but rain, i stuck in office.
The one i using is a black ER6, there is another red one i din see before.
This is black ER6 has issue on free gear. Already twice is shutdown by itself and cannot start back due to not able to free gear~~~sigh~

last time i did my jpj test, only 2 er6n were available. red is not moving at all.

There were Vulcan here before, but din see it recently. Only 2 ER6, black and red. Red looks newer.

16 yr old here planning to get b full liciense this week maybe , been riding klx110 for 4year , kapcai for 2 year , now sym t2 for couple month already. Hope i can get my license smoothly , wish me luck!

Good luck

wait, u have been riding bike while u r underage

I wish you all the best young kiddo.. I passed my B full at the age of 29 where I nvr ride a motorcycle before .. since you got so many years of experience riding you should able to pass it ..

Good luck and all the best.

anyone know any school that have shorter waiting list? i went to Nation Drive Wilayah at Segambut and was told B full will take about 6 months only can get. that was told to me before MCO in December now all driving school still closed, right? even in Feb 2021 not sure operate

I think it's easier to call them up.

Luckily I manage to finished my JPJ test right before 2021 .. took me 3 months in total to get B full from MetroJaya

sounds about right. congrats! welcome to the club!

Any good driving school to recommend for B Full? What do they do to accommodate short lady riders?

With the nation reopening, the time has come for me to buy a new bike & wife wants to tabao my shit garbage Dominar 400 to whack & thrash for a few years before getting her Triumph Trident dream bike... so she needs to get a B Full license.

ur wife can train with d dominar, then terus can test liao..,

Still needs to attend the mandatory lecture, complete the requisite hours of instruction & JPJ only lets you sit for the final test via a driving school.

But she will practice on my leaky Dominar at home.

Anyway we found this place, went to check it out, met the instructor, checked out the MT07 learner bikes they use.... and signed her up.



This post has been edited by ZZR-Pilot: Oct 23 2021, 04:32 PM

Hello

I have completed my L licence for B2, it was for free so why not take it?

But the problem rises when I own only a 650cc bike to ride... The people in my driving institutes stated that I can't upgrade my licence until I finish it... Does that mean after achieving PDL only can I upgrade to B full or do I have to wait 2 years for CDL to do so?

eh? at first when you get L , did you tell them you want B full instead of B2?

I took B2, well, the only reason I took it because it was for free

then you have no choice but to finish B2, then only able to apply for B full

Finish PDL or outright CDL?

you should be able to take B Full once you pass ur B2 test regardless of whether ur license is pdl or cdl.

alright thank you very much

I teman my wife as she studied for her L exam. She was given a handbook & an exercise book that's supposed to familiarize her with the exam questions.

OMG IT IS SO FULL OF SHIT...!!

Horrendous typos, poor grammar, flat-out wrong answers & lots of shit that actually *contradict* what the handbook says!!

I bet they didn't expect L license candidates to even give a shit to go thru that handbook, but my wife did & found out it's garbage.

No wonder every year they produce assholes to die on the road.

are the method to answer still the same eg when in doubt choose the longest answer. That's what my driving school told me when I was taking the L license

Yep. They can't tell the diff between teaching students so that they pass the exam vs teaching students how to beat the exam.

Today my wife received a priceless advice from Akademi Propandu:

"If you don't already know how to ride a big motorcycle, you should learn at home first before coming to your first lesson".

Then I paid you RM850 to shake tits, issit?

imagine come to driving school for training with 30 people that don't know how to ride a Big Bike,
the driving school only got 2 big CC motorcycle,
you got 8 hour of practice time and you have to share it with 30 other people,
and 10 of that people dont know how to ride scooter or moped,

I paid RM 770 for this training and felt cheated,

then i see one dude with his own trainer with his own bike doing a full 2 hour riding with guide and tips,


yeah i been there, but lucky i been riding kapchai for a long time. just need a bit of adjustment for clutch and whatever,

if you fail the test you go back to step one and retrain, need to pay more money,

During my time, there was hardly anybody taking up a B Full license so I got the bike all to myself the entire time.

I already warned my wife of the possibility of having a queue to use the bike during class, so her strategy is to plan her leave from work and pick a midweek slot like this morning where there are no other B Full students.

I told her not to mention that we have 2 B Full bikes at home to practice on so that the driving school won't shortcut & shortchange her in her lessons (nanti derang cincai ajar pastu suruh mintak husband sambung ajar di rumah & practice sendiri).

But seriously.... that statement by the driving school really takes the cake lah.

That's like sending your kid to math tusyen and the tusyen center tells your kid to learn math at home from parents first before coming to class.




Driving academies allow you to use their facilities to practice on your own using your own bike meh??

Not sure. But during my practice. Got 1 guy practice on his own bike or his agent bike. The agent basically teach him how to ride and explaining stuff to him. Sometimes they go out of the circuit and ride on the parking lot. And go back in again.

Do they teach on 1 to 1 basis? I think they don't want to risk dropping the bike or worse, injure yourself because they don't have the resources to do that.

in the institute that i went to. only one certified trainer to 4 students. and heck i learned very little from them. only when i paid for extra time they will guide me through

They do, if you pick a very unpopular time slot... like Tuesday mornings 8am-1pm where no B Full student would want to show up.

My wife texted back saying the instructor found a solution by getting her started on a kapcai for the first 2 hours, before moving up to the MT-07.

Well I'm happy to hear that, at least the instructor is experienced and conscientious enough to find ways to get a total noob started. At least dia x cuci tangan. The guys behind the office counter however are the ones giving condescending 'advice'.

I need her to go thru her first 5 hours of instruction at the driving school before I supplement them with practice at home on my bike.

As soon as she's comfortable managing the bike, I'll have to take her on easy, short distance Sunday rides as much as possible.




Bloody hell, how did we even manage totally on our own back then when we didn't even own a bike to practice on....

Oh, that's good to know.

I wouldn't expect 1 to 1. From their point of view, it's fair, that some students purposely went for B-full lessons with zero experience and caused damages to the learners bike. A damaged bike upsets other schedules, too, not to mention exam slots.

Fair enough, if they know you need extra guidance before handling a 200kg bike. Perhaps, set aside underbone with clutch just for this kind of learners would be better also.

Some other countries allow to use own bike, but that's a different culture altogether.

I have no experience riding any bike for the matter and was told to use their er6n right away even though i requested for a kapchai to train abit first before getting on a big bike. luckily i have experience with driving a manual car else it will be a nightmare handling a bike with a clutch.

Affordable underbone with clutch does not exist anymore sed

What you mean 'affordable'? If you mean brand new, yes is true, quite pricey.
If second hand, 1~2k also got.
Modify underbone to manual clutch also can.

Brand new lo

Not fair to compare second hand market la if liddat i oso can say I buy FZ 2k RM only lololol