Hello all,
I'm new to this board and also new to AMD64! Been an AMD fan since the K6-2s. But I've not had any experience with the 64bit cpus until recently I made the plunge and forked out the cash to upgrade! So glad I did! No longer am I waiting for a system which is badly lagging but now everything pops up right away!

Anyway, i've never had much success at all with overclocking so this was a very pleasant surprise for me as I am able to get my AM2 3200+ from stock 2Ghz to 2.6Ghz using only stock cooling. However, I choose to run it at 2.4Ghz as it gives me the best balance of everything (HT, ram etc).

My ddr2 667 kingston value ram also runs stable at 400Mhz according to Cpu-z if I leave it on auto. But I set it to DDR533 so that I can use tighter timings. At 2.4 (240 x 10), idle temp is around 35C and load around 45C. With CnQ on, idle is around 29C.

Anyway, at 2.6Ghz, I have to up the voltage by 0.1 to get it to run stable (prime95 a few hours). The temperature maxes out at around 53C under load and with CnQ on, 31C idle. I have not tried anything higher than 2.6Ghz as I am already highly satisfied for the bang I got for only a few hundred ringgit.

Are these good figures? I'm using the stock HSF and the only thing I changed is the DDR2 speed (from 667 to 533 although it will run stable aset on auto) in bios and the HT from 5x to 4x.

Today I went out and bought another stick of ram and am now happily running in dual channel mode. I am using a budget AM2 board, Biostar GF-6100 and am real happy that it allows for some moderate overcloking since it's so cheap compared to others. It's also very stable.

SuperPi 1M takes about 37 seconds to complete. 32M takes 31+ minutes.

Using the GF6100 onboard graphics, my 3DMark01 scores is in access of 5000 and 3DMark03 is expectedly a low 1000++.

Overall I am so happy with my new system and am glad I went AMD again. Was about to get an Intel E6300 but that was just way out of my budget. My next upgrade will again be another AMD as I think that their price/performance ratio is pretty good and the cpus easy to OC.

My system specs are:

AMD Athlon 64 3200+ (OC to 2.4Ghz)
Biostar Geforce 6100 AM2
2x512 kingston DDR2 667 ValueRam 4-4-4-12 (set at 300x2=600Mhz)
Maxtor SATA II DiamondMax 10 7200rpm 160GB
Seagate 40GB

I notice that the Maxtor runs much cooler than my sister's brand new 7200rpm Hitachi. Only around 32-34C while the Hitachi feels very warm and hits 40C.




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my brother has the S2. sorry to inform you that there is absolutely no OC in bios (except the memory stuff u mentioned). The shop guy said yes yes there is but i knew he was full of sh*t cos i already researched this board before we went to buy it. my bro doesn't oc so he's ok with it. the cheap biostar Geforce 6100 AM2 has far more OC stuff in bios than the gigabyte (which really has none!).

for RM270 it's great value imo. I actually asked for kurang and can have it for RM260 but that is older revision 1.1. The one now selling I think is revision 1.3. make sure you get that one. if the gigabyte s2 can OC with the new bios update like the previous poster said, then maybe that one better value especially if you want some features like gigabit lan...

however, it does not have a parallel port so if you need one, then get something else (it has a parallel header only for you to plug in port). also no gigabit lan only 10/100 and no firewire 1394. if you don't need all that, this is the greatest value with build in GF so far. the gf6100 score in 3Dmark01 is about 4800 - 5500++ depending on your system. on mine, it's about 5100+ and 5600+ when overclocked. okay for games like generals (medium setting, 1024 x 767very smooth).

also have the sempron 2800 running on it and can overclock to about 1900 stable only. didn't try any other combinations though, like increase or lower this and that. you have to try it yourself.

i don't have the tforce, i have the gforce but i also put together a sempron manila core 2800+. i oc'ed it to 1900 only (only a 300mhz increase) and didn't try anything else higher but that was the highest i could go without adjusting any things out of spec, maybe just a small vcore increase. but i feel that the manila is poor for o'clocking because at 236 x 8 it seemed it maxed out with stock vcore . it started having stability problems after that unless you bump up the vcore. i don't think it's my board as i can get my 2ghz 3200+ to 2.6++ with no problems at all (orleans core). 2.7 also possible with higher vcore but gets hotter (diminishing returns kicks in) so I just clock it at 2.6gig.

BTW what exactly did you do to burn the three ram slots?!! *shocked*

This post has been edited by mzms: Sep 22 2006, 06:54 AM

care to share more? why do you feel the older revision is better? (the poster was asking about Gforce not Tforce). BTW the older rev 1.1 has no heatsink on southbridge and gets very very hot reading from older reviews on newegg.com. even with heatsink it's quite warm so imagine without.

ya la, no heatsink on southbridge unless you're talking about your TFORCE in your sig, i am talking about revision 1.1 GeFORCE 6100 which the poster asked about (Biostar Geforece 6100 AM2). the rev 1.3 one has heatsink. the older users of rev 1/1.1 in the US (read at newegg.com) say the southbridge gets very very hot without heatsink. there's a new bios out for this board in biostar USA but cannot download, very slow lah this biostar website.

I OC my orleans to 2.6 and have CnQ enabled most of the time (power savings set to portable/laptop or minimal). I only switch it off when playing games. I have never ever experienced any problems with it at all. I like it cos when surfing or emailing, I don't need all that power and my idle temps drop from about 37/38C to 33C or lower. maybe each person's exp is diff depending on their hardware? only way for you to find out is to try it yourself. here's a snapshot of cpuz while CNQ is enabled...


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wahhh very impressive, 2.69 at stock voltage! I can get my orleans 3200+ up to 2.7 but prime95 will hang after a few tests. Right now I have it at 2.6. As you can see from the screenie, I need a vcore bump to get it to run prime95 stable (24 hours +). I also have the HT at 1300 and no probs. I do notice that games I play is faster and smoother at this HT speed. also get higher 3dmark01 score. Anyway, the highest I can go with default vcore is around 2.4 with ram at 800Mhz 5 5 5 15. But 2.6 and ram at 4 4 4 12 is more desirable for me. Your 2.69 at default vcore is really nice!!!

The highest prime stable that I have gotten is about 2.63, any higher and I need to loosen ram timings and bump up vcore. In the snapshot, the two numbers in my system tray are my cpu and hdd temps respectively. also included an overall snapshot of superpi.

EDIT: I have increased the ht to 263 and here's the superpi 32M score at 263x10... (the third snapshot)
I think the higher HT (x5 multiplier)really helped here as previously I only get 31m best with x4 setting.

This post has been edited by mzms: Sep 27 2006, 09:18 AM


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that's pretty impressive compared to the sempron 2800+ manila that I tried to OC. I could only get it to 1.90 at default vcore without problems. 2.0 requires vcore increase. By the way, is that your idle cpu temp or load?

Recently, I incorrectly flashed my Biostar Geforce 6100 AM2 with the bios for the TForce 6100 AM2 (CR51A811.bst). It actually works without a hitch and I'm really impressed with the many differnet options you Tforce users get with your TF board in the bios. I especially like the OC Navigator and CRP reload section. I tried OC with this bios and succeeded too, using both auto and manual but manual is a bit challenging since I have an easy to use DRAM timing section with the A505 bios (GF). I didn't want to risk anything too extreme though and quickly flashed back to the correct A811 bios after a some fiddling around with the tforce bios.

With the new cr51a811.bf bios, I notice that the DRAM timing option on the older A505 bios is gone but the cpu temp sensor/reading issue is fixed. I can now get 2.5 at default vcore with this bios (prime and 3dmark stable). before it would hang within few minutes of 3dmark or prime.

This post has been edited by mzms: Oct 3 2006, 08:17 AM

Guys, my orleans 3200 clocked at 260x10 will sometimes refuse to boot up when i do a cold boot. the biostar watchdog kicks in and tells me to reduce or reset the CPU speed during POST.

however, after doing a CTRL ALT DEL it starts normally or I can just go into BIOS and exit again and it'll start normally. At 260x10, it has completed more than 24 hours of Prime95 and various other burn in runs like sandra and 3dmark loops. So why doesn't it want to cold boot sometimes? Is this an indication of a PSU problem? Not enough juice?