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 Proton PrevĂ© V20, Don't provoke the modest beast!

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arthur88
post Mar 21 2014, 11:03 AM

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QUOTE(terryble @ Mar 16 2014, 11:48 PM)
this is an inherent problem with the heavy car~~
but some one here actually bought a supercharger for the engine...but i think this is an extreme case~~as i believe it voids a lot of warranties~~engine..gearbox...cooling system~~
dun think you want to go there
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some one is who?
exec cars or cfe cars?
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post Mar 21 2014, 11:25 AM

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QUOTE(sw1314 @ Mar 18 2014, 09:56 PM)
btw, any SA from Penang or mainland got good offer for cfe?
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look for lina lee at air itam proton showroom, near the air itam triangle there...
i get 900 discount from her when i bought my car on 2012 June...highest discount i get at that time...
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post Apr 28 2014, 08:58 AM

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QUOTE(mengsuan @ Apr 26 2014, 09:44 PM)
Very often I can go over 500 KM in one tank. Yesterday I've boosted hard up to 190KM/h, I'm sure this tank won't be good economy.
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u will be surprised if u only pump half tank instead of full tank for city drive, u will get more mileage...
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post Apr 28 2014, 12:35 PM

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QUOTE(alexei @ Apr 28 2014, 11:25 AM)
sanadi Thanks, that's very useful.
In my case, unfortunately it seems I have ordered something similar. The new version is v2.1 IINM. But, these are all cloned anyway, since an original ELM327 costs much more.
Half tank petrol shaves off 30kg @ 0.75kg/l, give or tank.
Though sometimes it's not the weight that improves the FC.

Do you have data?
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if u want data, go ahead and google around or test it yourself.
what i said is based on my own testing without recording down the data.
driving around for two years, first year pump to full tank and 2nd year pump half tank in city drive.

my observation is full tank in city drive can get not more than 400km mileage, while half tank in city drive i can get around 200-250km mileage.
u can choose not to take my data~less observation.
but it is my experience.

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post Apr 28 2014, 12:43 PM

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another "weird" observation of mine is,
the travel is from PG-KL and KL-PG with same weight (me and my bro-in-law, no extra things/luggage) and used auto-cruise at 110km/h all the way
PG - KL >> used 5 bars of fuel
KL - PG >> used 3 bars of fuel

i observed this "behaviour" for few times ady, and i asked around whether its my own car "behave" like that or others' car "bahave" like that also.
but i didnt get satisfied result as some said the route KL-PG is more flat compare to PG-KL is more hilly.
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post Apr 28 2014, 02:14 PM

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QUOTE(alexei @ Apr 28 2014, 01:42 PM)
My Google results show it is urban myth, unsubstantiated with data.
This is not my first time looking into this idea, but I'm open to new findings.
Theories are abound, no less.
This is my search term "half tank full tank mileage".

Personally, I've measure these few methods:
- Full tank and refuel at empty
- First half tank and refuel
- Second half tank and refuel at empty

My data shows that there is no long term difference. I now drive with full tanks, stopping the refuel as the pump clicks to stop.
Newer cars, Preve included I presume, have fuel tank pressure relief, by sending petrol fumes to air filter box, that's why when you open petrol cap, there is no escaped pressure.
In theory, the extra fume burnt off, are compensated by reduced fuel at injector, as it can be detected by O2 sensor.
My recent experience didn't observe this.

Perhaps it's more to do with elevation? Penang is 3m above sea level, and KL is 21.95m.
Or, different brands of petrol? In my data, brand P******* is better than S****, E***, B** and C*****. However, other drivers may not agree based on their experience

Also, the time when you travel plays a role, too. Example: If PG-KL is in the morning, vs KL-PG in the afternoon.
Factors: Air density higher when cool, air con usage longer when hot, etc. My RM0.02.
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no long term difference?
hmm...maybe for u only...but for me, with RM50 i can go at least 200km, or 250km+- compare to RM100 i can go no more than 400km...but this is city drive
for highway drive, full tank or half tank same, no difference.

i only pump petron, unless no choice ady no more blinking, pump other brand.
why ur data need to hide the brand name?

for the KL-PG and PG-KL route, i used only Petron RON95. i believe it is more to elevation. but where u get this elevation data from google search? can share the link?

petronas for my car give s best mileage, then BHP/Petron, then Shell, then Caltex (all RON95).
but difference car difference characteristics, i tested all brand petrol as soon i get my car.
now, for my car, Petron gives better mileage and acceleration (based on my feeling), even though Petronas gives best mileage but no power and makes engine noisy when accelerate.

forgot to add, travel at what time also same, still 5 bars PG-KL and 3 bars KL-PG

This post has been edited by arthur88: Apr 28 2014, 02:17 PM
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post Apr 29 2014, 02:17 PM

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QUOTE(davidke20 @ Apr 29 2014, 10:24 AM)
How many tanks you've tested? Is it consistent? There's another saying, when unstable liquid form of fuel inside a tank with much space left, movement itself will evaporate the fuel even faster. No doubt, half tank you're only carrying about 20 litres of fuel, it does save some weight. But I've seen some heavy weight driver doing good FC as well.
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how many tanks? within 1 year....i didnt count or record down...
until this June, i own and drive preve for 2 years, 46k mileage...
give or take 20k mileage i pump half tank for city driving...

but i need to stress....i'm talking about city driving within penang island industrial area with average speed not more than 25km/h

note: average speed might not be accurate, but what i remembered is not more than 25km/h...



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post Apr 30 2014, 10:56 AM

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QUOTE(itzwalid @ Apr 29 2014, 09:22 PM)
I have a 2012 Proton Preve CFE with 25440 on the clock. I was driving yesterdayevening in the rain, suddenly the ABS and CVT warning light came on! The car lost all its power...couldnt even accelerate....and I moved to the emergency lane somehow. I tried restarting and it was fine. But again in the next 10 mins it happened again. I reached home somehow and parked the car.
Not planning to take it out until the problem is fixed.

Any inputs as to what went wrong? Booked appointmentat COE ttomorrow!

My preve feels so unsafe now!

Any1 faced this?
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most probably remove negative terminal of battery (black color) for 1 minute, then connect it back, it will back to normal.

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