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post Mar 4 2014, 09:55 PM, updated 12y ago

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case 1

This is what i got after logged a complaint with KIA Global regarding the missing auto leveling module...

Dear valued Customer,
We appreciate your kind feedback and regret for the dissatisfaction caused to you by virtue of your complaint in relation to your Kia Cerato HID Xenon Headlamps with Auto Levelling device issue.

Based on our customer database updates, it is being confirmed that your Kia Cerato 2.0 model is a Completely-Knock-Down (CKD) production from Malaysia, registered on 19/12/2013 and not being equipped with Auto Levelling device for the HID head lamps. The function is only applicable for European market and not for Asian market.

However, we are unable to give any comments on the hard-copy brochure, official website and media coverage of the existence of the HID Xenon Headlamps with Auto Levelling device on your Kia Cerato distributed by our distributor, Naza Kia Malaysia Sdn Bhd as it is part of their Complete-Knock-Down (CKD) requirements and process to their domestic market. Our distributor reserves the right to discontinue or change the models, features, specifications, options, designs and prices of the products and some of the items herein are optional at extra cost due to the requirements and process.

Should you require an upgrade on your audio system, please feel free to contact Kia Careline at 1-800-888-542 (KIA) for further assistance.

case 2

Regarding the 2.0 auto leveling device issue. Naza Kia has reply

We apologize on the printed matter and please be informed the Auto Levelling Headlamp function is only applicable for EU market specification and is not developed for Malaysia market. All specifications and images of the vehicle in this booklet may vary from actual and are correct at the time of print. Naza Kia Malaysia reserves the right to amend the specifications in this booklet as when deemed necessary without prior notice.

Please do not hesitate to contact us at KIA CARELINE 1800888542 for further assistance.

Thank you.

Administrator Client Services & Support Department
Naza Kia Malaysia Sdn Bhd
Kia Careline Toll Free1800888542 Kiassist Toll Free 1-300-888-542
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https://www.facebook.com/groups/504345042961920/

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=470...&type=1&theater

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conclusion kia cerato 2.0 is CKD kena tipu pulak brows.gif

should customer demand refund money from Naza coz CKD~_~ ?? hmm.gif

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post Mar 4 2014, 09:56 PM

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Dafuq, is this even legal.
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somehow i kinda hate the rear lights of this car. its nice yes but at night when brake it will blind you
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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ Mar 4 2014, 09:56 PM)
Dafuq, is this even legal.
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yes coz got fine print
Naza Kia Malaysia reserves the right to amend the specifications in this booklet as when deemed necessary without prior notice.

unless stated in Hire purchase
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post Mar 4 2014, 09:59 PM

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buy car from kroni is like that
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post Mar 4 2014, 10:00 PM

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Planning to get this car later. What does this auto leveling do?
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post Mar 4 2014, 10:01 PM

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QUOTE(bengang13 @ Mar 4 2014, 10:00 PM)
Planning to get this car later. What does this auto leveling do?
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u can check in google only available for 2.0 owners
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post Mar 4 2014, 10:01 PM

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The new Santa Fe also what. EU model comes with 7 airbags, CKD liao become 2.

But at least they mention in brochure la.
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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ Mar 4 2014, 09:56 PM)
Dafuq, is this even legal.
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deswai always got fineprint to brochure.. actual specs may vary., we reserve the right bla bla. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(bengang13 @ Mar 4 2014, 10:00 PM)
Planning to get this car later. What does this auto leveling do?
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it'll auto level the headlight lor.. biggrin.gif
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post Mar 4 2014, 10:02 PM

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QUOTE(Gion @ Mar 4 2014, 10:01 PM)
u can check in google only available for 2.0 owners
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I am actually planning to get a 2.0. Btw u driving 2.0?
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post Mar 4 2014, 10:02 PM

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Test drive car ada Benda tu tak
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post Mar 4 2014, 10:03 PM

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stop buying if you feel cheated..
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post Mar 4 2014, 10:03 PM

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QUOTE(bengang13 @ Mar 4 2014, 10:02 PM)
I am actually planning to get a 2.0. Btw u driving 2.0?
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nop I do not have money to buy my dream car
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post Mar 4 2014, 10:03 PM

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Like that every carmaker can state they have 7 airbags, 19" rims, DVD player, power seats, body kit liao la

Then when ppl get their cars just say "oh sorry we reserve the right to change the specs without prior notice"
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post Mar 4 2014, 10:04 PM

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QUOTE(ar188 @ Mar 4 2014, 10:02 PM)
it'll auto level the headlight lor..  biggrin.gif
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So when the road is uneven it will auto level?
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post Mar 4 2014, 10:05 PM

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QUOTE(Gion @ Mar 4 2014, 10:03 PM)
nop I do not have money to buy my dream car
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Cheeeeeeehhhhhh I tot u got that why u complen. Tot wanna ask you some question pertaining to the car
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post Mar 4 2014, 10:07 PM

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QUOTE(bengang13 @ Mar 4 2014, 10:05 PM)
Cheeeeeeehhhhhh I tot u got that why u complen. Tot wanna ask you some question pertaining to the car
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i am sharing here tongue.gif see how naza treat consumer like rubbish
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Consumer rights in bolehland is like that liao lo...
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post Mar 4 2014, 10:08 PM

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QUOTE(bengang13 @ Mar 4 2014, 03:04 PM)
So when the road is uneven it will auto level?
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It's when you have e.g. heavy luggage in the trunk. Your car will tend to point slightly upwards in front, hence most cars either have auto-leveling or a some scrolling knob to adjust the front headlights. Otherwise, you'll be blinding the cars in front.
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QUOTE(Gion @ Mar 4 2014, 10:07 PM)
i am sharing here tongue.gif see how naza treat consumer like rubbish
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How lar I am ready to buy this car already leh
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post Mar 4 2014, 10:11 PM

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QUOTE(bengang13 @ Mar 4 2014, 10:04 PM)
So when the road is uneven it will auto level?
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no, when your kawan sit in the back too heavy then it'll auto adjust the headlamp level
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post Mar 4 2014, 10:14 PM

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QUOTE(kelvinlym @ Mar 4 2014, 10:08 PM)
It's when you have e.g. heavy luggage in the trunk.  Your car will tend to point slightly upwards in front, hence most cars either have auto-leveling or a some scrolling knob to adjust the front headlights.  Otherwise, you'll be blinding the cars in front.
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Mar 4 2014, 10:11 PM)
no, when your kawan sit in the back too heavy then it'll auto adjust the headlamp level
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Ford focus, Mazda 3, civic, Altis got this feature?
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post Mar 4 2014, 10:16 PM

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no.. the lamp will auto level when ascending or descending hill
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post Mar 4 2014, 10:19 PM

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QUOTE(bengang13 @ Mar 4 2014, 10:14 PM)
Ford focus, Mazda 3, civic, Altis got this feature?
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most of the HID lamp 1 got ..but not all la smile.gif

auto headlight and auto leveling is different

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post Mar 4 2014, 10:21 PM

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QUOTE(desmond2020 @ Mar 4 2014, 09:56 PM)
Dafuq, is this even legal.
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poeple who buy Naza rebadge or Kia deserves to be cheated.
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post Mar 4 2014, 10:22 PM

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next time any company also can say got A, then after that say no need give A because got fine print.
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post Mar 4 2014, 10:24 PM

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Then order 2.0 give 1.0 lo profit.

QUOTE(ahchun @ Mar 4 2014, 09:58 PM)
yes coz got fine print
Naza Kia Malaysia reserves the right to amend the specifications in this booklet as when deemed necessary without prior notice.

unless stated in Hire purchase
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post Mar 4 2014, 10:29 PM

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QUOTE(advocado @ Mar 4 2014, 10:24 PM)
Then order 2.0 give 1.0 lo profit.
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that one ur card card got mention ma
JPJ macam mana pass abang ?
jpj mana tau check head light leveling ?
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post Mar 4 2014, 10:34 PM

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QUOTE(ahchun @ Mar 4 2014, 09:58 PM)
yes coz got fine print
Naza Kia Malaysia reserves the right to amend the specifications in this booklet as when deemed necessary without prior notice.

unless stated in Hire purchase
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I always thought Cerato is CBU. Long time havent visit KIA sales booth.
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QUOTE(magi @ Mar 4 2014, 10:34 PM)
I always thought Cerato is CBU. Long time havent visit KIA sales booth.
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most of the naza car is "Semi CBU" which actually consider as CKD
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post Mar 4 2014, 10:38 PM

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QUOTE(fantasy1989 @ Mar 4 2014, 10:37 PM)
most of the naza car is "Semi CBU" which actually consider as CKD
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except 1.6 is CKD not SBU
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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Mar 4 2014, 09:57 PM)
somehow i kinda hate the rear lights of this car. its nice yes but at night when brake it will blind you
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try and stop behind of the latest merc E-class with brakes on for 2 minutes... u will see after that brows.gif
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QUOTE(bengang13 @ Mar 4 2014, 10:00 PM)
Planning to get this car later. What does this auto leveling do?
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When yo mama sits in the back seat for example....the car tilts since it is back heavy, which makes the headlights point higher than usual right? Well this auto leveling bullsh*t corrects itself to the right angle/direction. "auto level", the phrase actually speaks for itself.
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naza penipu scammer lel
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post Mar 4 2014, 11:02 PM

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NAZA PENIPU SCAMMER.
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QUOTE(bengang13 @ Mar 4 2014, 10:14 PM)
Ford focus, Mazda 3, civic, Altis got this feature?
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Mazda 3 for sure got this feature. Call AFS.
I also purchased Cerato 2.0. Already paid the downpayment, no turning back.

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208 say got autocruise in brochure also but not equipped. so not the 1st time those lazy buggers did this
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it's called bait and switch. The purpose motive may be there.

Well, it's looks ambiguous in terms of business law.

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QUOTE(kenhirai83 @ Mar 5 2014, 12:18 AM)
Mazda 3 for sure got this feature. Call AFS.
I also purchased Cerato 2.0. Already paid the downpayment, no turning back.
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How do you find the handling? Find it a little lacking and doesn't accelerate as well as I hope so. Cabin also a little noisy. Why never consider ford focus
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Nest time, read the spec and check your purchase carefully. A good job for Naza.
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QUOTE(pineapplegrenade @ Mar 5 2014, 07:19 AM)
Nest time, read the spec and check your purchase carefully. A good job for Naza.
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how to check purchase carefully? when get car got state final spec ?
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most ppl buy the car without properly reading the Boucher....only later felt cheated....is a way how seller throw their responsibility to consumers whose not properly check before buying it with their laws of right to reserve....

Just like how air asia do....they had the right to delay the flight....so whose ever want to do bisness here with no F given to consumers with the protected by right to reserve will untung besar...

Try that in Europe or other country....might get a law suit....

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http://assets.nazakia.com.my.s3.amazonaws....ninsular_20.pdf

haha the latest brochure still state got this feature... laugh.gif the auto leveling feature is in bold lagi tongue.gif

the price list is effective 15 feb 2014 tongue.gif

TS u is Tai Yee Sian? tongue.gif

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QUOTE(ar188 @ Mar 4 2014, 10:02 PM)
deswai always got fineprint to brochure.. actual specs may vary., we reserve the right bla bla.  biggrin.gif
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so can put 8 air bags, later got car no airbag, we cannot rage? biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(Black Red @ Mar 5 2014, 08:35 AM)
so can put 8 air bags, later got car no airbag, we cannot rage?  biggrin.gif
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even p1 and p2 did that arent it?
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Mar 4 2014, 10:02 PM)
deswai always got fineprint to brochure.. actual specs may vary., we reserve the right bla bla.  biggrin.gif
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that is not a valid legal escape route. one can still argue that in court.


but only if cerato owners all saman naza. but all so pandan, how la?
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QUOTE(stupiak07 @ Mar 5 2014, 08:00 AM)
#naza penipu scammer
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Headlight auto levelling function only what... no big deal rclxm9.gif
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post Mar 5 2014, 09:20 AM

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why dun change the engine to 1.6l and says amended spec without notice
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hahah buy expensive car but lack of intelligent to read the t&c
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powerful consumer rights in maresia rite there
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QUOTE(bengang13 @ Mar 4 2014, 10:00 PM)
Planning to get this car later. What does this auto leveling do?
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it level ur car headlamp.eg when goy many heavy thing on ur boot it will lower the light level as ur car will be a bit congek.
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No auto leveling?
How about directional turning?
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KIA really con buyer and media 'kao kao'.
From first day launching already without the feature, but still highlighted in brochure and spec list. All the review for 2.0 Cerato also highlighted this feature.

I think KIA Malaysia really need to give an official statement on this.
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Is it just me or is the English used rather flowery?

And I seem to encounter it quite regularly. Did all those public relations people come from the same school or education background?

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QUOTE(LawdRetep @ Mar 4 2014, 10:01 PM)
The new Santa Fe also what. EU model comes with 7 airbags, CKD liao become 2.

But at least they mention in brochure la.
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Santafe audi style one only 2 airbags mehh??
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1st of all car dealer says 2.0 is CBU slow importing cars from korea but siapa tahu 2.0 is CKD lis ocated at naza manufacture. dont they think is cheating consumer using their own disclaimer and responsibility?

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QUOTE(alwinnng @ Mar 5 2014, 12:24 PM)
Santafe audi style one only 2 airbags mehh??
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Ya lo.

"Two specs are available for each engine – Elegance and Executive Plus. Standard across the board features include ABS, EBD, BA, ESP, Downhill Brake Control, Hillstart Assist Control, Vehicle Stability Management, dual airbags, rear parking assist, electric parking brake, Smart Key with push start button, 12-way powered driver’s seat, auto headlamps, third-row AC vents, steering wheel controls and cruise control."

Quoted from http://paultan.org/2013/06/24/hyundai-sant...aunch-malaysia/
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QUOTE(joe_mamak @ Mar 5 2014, 12:20 PM)
Is it just me or is the English used rather flowery?

And I seem to encounter it quite regularly.  Did all those public relations people come from the same school or education background?
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neither,

standard template produced for them, just fill in the blanks, name , date
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QUOTE(LawdRetep @ Mar 5 2014, 01:39 PM)
Ya lo.

"Two specs are available for each engine – Elegance and Executive Plus. Standard across the board features include ABS, EBD, BA, ESP, Downhill Brake Control, Hillstart Assist Control, Vehicle Stability Management, dual airbags, rear parking assist, electric parking brake, Smart Key with push start button, 12-way powered driver’s seat, auto headlamps, third-row AC vents, steering wheel controls and cruise control."

Quoted from http://paultan.org/2013/06/24/hyundai-sant...aunch-malaysia/
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Wakaoooo


So mahal with 2airbags -.-"
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QUOTE(ZeneticX @ Mar 4 2014, 09:57 PM)
somehow i kinda hate the rear lights of this car. its nice yes but at night when brake it will blind you
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blimey... im not alone.. notworthy.gif notworthy.gif notworthy.gif
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Mar 4 2014, 10:02 PM)
it'll auto level the headlight lor..  biggrin.gif
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what for?!!!!!
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QUOTE(ar188 @ Mar 4 2014, 10:11 PM)
no, when fei hai like me sit in the back too heavy then it'll auto adjust the headlamp level
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QUOTE(skyblu3 @ Mar 6 2014, 02:37 AM)
what for?!!!!!
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maybe that's what the importers thought.. what for??!! biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(skyblu3 @ Mar 6 2014, 02:37 AM)
what for?!!!!!
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Because HID will blind you biggrin.gif


Anyways, not really an important feature IMO. Just another one of those useless things car manufacturers add to jack the price up. Not worth the money. Especially not for a Hyundai. Or any Korean car for that matter. Plus, it's Malaysian CKD. You really want to buy? LOL



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At this price I fun understand why ppl don't get a civic.

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Con, jgn tak con.
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EU market only. Then it never came to malaysia la? Y la put in malaysia website n brochures? Correct at the time of printing? That bullshit. If never came they shud have never printed n it has never been correct at any time. Did they amend the specs? No. It never meant to be here. So they never amend anything also. Main purpose is to mislead customer to buy n hope nobody realize
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'Enthusiast' reviews on PaulTan and LiveLifeDrive also took it for granted la. What more to say end buyers? Pay so much $ think get so many features. Seriously, buyers wouldn't have doubted.
Hopefully that's the only one which slipped through!

Consumers can lodge complaint to

http://www.nccc.org.my/
or http://e-aduan.kpdnkk.gov.my/

But again, how many actually do it.
Majority will think complain also no use, in Malaysia like that lo....
This is a contributing factor to consumer rights in our country still lagging behind......

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