Luck is what happens when preparation meets opportunity.”


― Seneca


1.Today without seeing ample result and evidence, you say it is a scam and perhaps may have elusive and fickle facts which borders on ambiguity between what is true and false. Yes your perception may be true, but whether you are right or wrong in proving this otherwise will not give you answers. I for one am very sceptical especially if it involves MLM or a pyramid scheme. But i decided to join this Utoken knowing that at the end of the road, i have a calculated opportunity to a very high returns,or poorer by the amount of investment i made.

2.But here is the thing, in the event that it turns out to be a debacle and in which many of my friends will say, "i told you so". I have no regrets for i know, with my attitude & position to risk, i may get somewhere someday without the scepticism and pessimism that withholds my decision to do certain things like many of you as it does to me.

3.But if it turns out that i have earned a hefty profit, & somewhere down the line it tumbles and falls & turns out to fail anyway. Your answer will still be "you just got lucky and you might have been one of the first few 100 lucky people". Again your sense of scepticism may once again deter you from the very thing that may be stopping you from achieving goals and perhaps the leap that may differentiate you from the poor and the rich.

4.Now if it does turn out to last much longer, & many people seem to reap a lot of profit and now it seems relatively safe to maybe strongly consider joining, will you still join? will your self pride and prejudice allow you to alter from the other side of the fence this side? the answer will most likely be a no. Because then your argument will be " aiya its too late to join already 2 years sure going to die soon".

5.Now my point in all this elaboration, that sometimes, along the line of what we call life, is that you should take some risk and chances. Of course within reason or acceptability. Now some people may just understand and see the opportunity, others, no matter the amount of facts and figures you show, will never be enough, for humans are generally designed to question and find fault. Even toddlers can be critical and tell what is wrong, but it takes a different individual with different qualities to tell what is right.

6.I have made a huge amount of research into this UToken after joining it.(Yes , i joined first & asked questions later due to an immense trust i have for a friend of mine). And out of that abundance of research, my scepticism of for example their bank website which, yes has been done very amateurishly, and a lot of other faults that i could find with the desire to find something wrong with the system which may perhaps put my investment in jeopardy.

7.After all the findings, i realise that the a few simple reasons the system will continue to thrive, is not only that it involves many powerful rich individuals that have invested into this & have interest in it to ensure the system survives, is that the greed for more and more money pouring in will supersede and mitigate any risk for at least the first 2 to 3 years.

7A. The cycle has gone up to 1 USD with consistent effort along the way by the company to maintain the market trade by implementing rules and regulations to ensure that the system is still in tact & that the rich ones with a lot of Utoken is not able to abuse the Trade system. Why would the company do that? i wondered, why not just run away with that 30 or 50 Million USD you have in hand? Why continue the sham(if it is) and allowing people to take their investment & cash out?. Why continue the cycle again from 0.10USD? I think it relates back to point 7.


8.There is also other reasons for the system to work, which i will not elaborate on as i have already typed i think an essay worth of notes.


9.Will you be the person that watches, observe, evaluate risk & cost, while others make money, or will you be the one making money & exiting once you have made sufficient profit, while others tell you that its just "luck" and that you got lucky.



What is the amount im earning? It entirely depends on the individual, honestly i have made about RM10k by myself if i were to exit now. But im looking at a timeframe of another 1 to 2 years before this system may fail, so it depends on you, how much you want to earn and how much are you willing to risk. By the end of next month im looking at another rm 30k. But if i wait till end of the year im looking at 150k. mid next year maybe even 300k. But of course by then you will be calling me the lucky ones for joining early. Will this happen? who knows, maybe it wont and i end up losing my investment. But if its the other way around at least i wont have to beat myself and bang the wall saying why the &%^*&^# didnt i just try!


Also take note i have not done ANY RECRUITMENT.


Contact me if you are really interested in what may or may not change your life, as for me, the choice has been made.

Your question of validation is like asking, who validates the price of shares to increase?. its basically influenced by the most basic simple equation of Supply & Demand. Why does limited edition items, watches, phones increase in price? where does it say in the world that the price increase? what dictates the price increase?. Ie

1.Seller one sells for $330.

2. Seller two sells for $345.

3. Seller three sells for $ 280.

4. Seller four sells for $500.

Now once buyers buy all of them, and the only one left available is $500. If you want to buy, because there is no more supply below $500, you are forced to buy it at $500. I hope this clarifies your question as i feel the intention of your question is not related to your intelligence but rather in scepticism and doubt.


Also , in regards to the BNM list, kindly look at the website before relating it back to Utokens.

One of them is obviously a blog, and the other one is in malay??jutawan?? I mean logically just think, if you want to scam on an international level wouldnt you rather use an international web like www.utokens.com which doesnt see any affiliation to any particular country or language??.

Thats like saying if i open up a blog called applemacintosh.blogspot or jutaepal.com and i scam by selling fake apple products, this websites get banned it means www.apple.com is an illegal entity. because im affiliated by selling apple products.

Talking rubbish and indicting online on something is easy, just type and type and talk nonsense while people earn real money. Why? talking rubbish online doesnt cost you anything.

I see many of you writing about this being ponzi, pyramid, money game etc. If i were to walk out of my house now, and i cant use this Utoken anywhere besides on the screen, then yes, we r fcked. But if a private hospital can accept UTokens, if buying a car and a house i can use UTokens, eat outside, sleep in hotels paying UTokens here or overseas why do you think this is a short term investment?. Everyone keeps saying online is the future, what makes you think otherwise? Bitcoin is a proven REAL LIFE PROOF of a success of E currency still insufficient?

I wont argue that this will go on forever, even Chatime which was super successful and initially thought to branch out like starbucks, is now seen quietly settling in and even selling Horlicks now. There are so many reasons i can type, but i rather waste that time earning money because im too poor to buy a comfortable house in a safe environment , a nice imported car & go to London and stay in a hotel rather than a dorm and eat outside in a restaurant rather than a mamak.

I dont know about you guys, but one thing is for sure, if i had listen to 2 of my best friends telling me, this is a scam, better get out, i dont see the potential and good luck to you we will see 3 months from now. I wont be sitting here telling you guys i am close to earning back all my capital + another 5 to 10 times of that if it continues on for the next 6 months. If i choose to withdraw now, i would have earned 2 times, but i choose to risk it, because i can see the potential & if i miss this today, ill regret i didnt put more in.

Your situation may be similar to me, where 10 out of 10 tells you this is a scam, its absolutely normal, because they dont understand, it took me 2 hours of conversation to understand, do you think spending time researching online or talking to someone who has only seen 10 mins of info online being able to tell you whats really going on?. Maybe your friend isnt explaining to you the way he should be, maybe he himself doesnt completely understand.


Trust your judgement and if you have the hunger to succeed and get out of your current lifestyle, would it really hurt you to just try and listen with a fair mind?. If it really is fishy and sounds dodgy, no worries just get the fck out at least you cleared your doubt and like Bitcoin, seeing it at $1200 today you wont feel much except thinking wow its crazy how can it go up so high, oh well back to my work. BUT, if you listen, and you so happen joined, dont you think that there is HOPE that there is a possibility it may go beyond your expectations?. and what turn out to be a scam may indeed change your lifestyle?.

I met a real estate agent which told me he heard of UToken close to a year ago, i asked him, why didnt you join? he said no, i dont join things like that because i dont believe in it.Working hard is the best way. I then ask him again, he said no its ok & thats the end of the story.

Well lets rhetorically say he did join one year ago, and he joined at the lowest package of $500 at the price he said was at 0.20, my estimate today if he were to open the account to have a look at what he has, at todays value of roughly 0.11, he would have earned estimate of no less than $10,000. No MLM nothing just pure invest in UToken value & splits. Thats RM 32,000. Just because like every other normal people, he didnt even want to listen and understand and presumed the worst.

Today, you are in that same situation. Will you be the real estate agent, or take the risk like me, in hopes of a better future ( petrol naik, toll naik, makanan naik, phone bill naik, GF expenses naik but gaji tak naik. Do you really think that today even RM 40,000 will change your lifestyle? maybe if its £ 40,000 la. Our inflation so high RM50 also like RM10 thanks to our great Government. Take some time to understand , Leaders lead, followers follow. 10 people tell you they saw some pigs that can fly , are you the one to believe or think for yourself? you decide.





Forgot to add in, my 2 best friends which i mention when i first joined, which says "this is a scam, ponzi, i dont think it will last more than 6 months, its a pyramid scheme" now after about 3 months,

i told them i earned more than half of my money back in cash on hand, they just quietly says "good la for you, but i hope you wont lose your other half". Will they join now? no, because when i first ask they didnt join then why would they join now??.

Again 3 months later ill say i earn back all my capital. They will say "congratulations lo, you got lucky maybe". Will they join? nope. But mind you, if they had listened and joined when i first ask them to, today they will be standing next to me and congratulating one another we are just earning profits now.

And then another 3 months i start earning, I will say to them, im earning quite a lot now, you want to join? My guess is their answer will still be no, because of whatever reason, their answer will most likely be "its ok lah you already earning this stage, must be too late for me already".

1 year down the road and somehow miraculously UToken still continues, im driving a nice car, i own a house and my lifestyle changed, i meet them and ask, do you want to join now? their answer would most likely be, "do you think it will be too late now? maybe ill join and try."

The morale of the story, is you decide what result you want. Are you out here to look for opportunity, or ure out here to look for problems and faults?.

This post has been edited by DevilUserUK: Nov 19 2014, 04:47 PM

This was after joining UToken.

Now before you say anything, my guess is that you will be saying that this can be forged, or its fake , or you need further better proof etc etc. Y? because your intention here was never to understand or to look at this impartially. After all words for you are just words, you dont risk nor lose anything by indicting. It will take forever to convince you and to what end? With a glass half empty attitude, even if there is an opportunity right in front of you now, your first reaction is skepticism , doubt, and distrust. Likewise, my 2 good friends, which sadly had that exact same attitude. I now do not mention anything further other than showing result 1 to 2 years down the road. I am sharing my story not because i tend to gain nor do i stand to obtain benefit from this, but like many others here, and perhaps someone who is reading this, you, like me you are just looking for a hope and opportunity for a better change.

I would be lying if i said that i earn all this money through just the increase of UToken value alone. But im just an ordinary guy,im still working under a salary, i still do not own a house, and my parents arent rich. Had i been negative about this, i wouldnt even have the opportunity to explore and a chance to earn even an extra RM1000. i would still be in front of the screen contemplating whether to join now or not. Or perhaps even be on the other side shouting scam and ill see how long you will last attitude.

Its easy to point fingers and give an opinion, but honestly think hard and thorough, do you think positive and forward thinking will get you further in life? or the opposite? Im not saying there isnt risk involve in this, but the earlier you join, the faster you get your returns, the better peace of mind you will get whilst opening up a whole lot of possibilities.

A person msged me asking in short whether is it safe to invest in this. I asked this very same question to the person who introduced me into this. His answer was to everything there is risk, do not expect to invest in a low risk share and expect it to blow up like apple shares. Even alibaba's shares, many were skeptical and professional speculators and investors says " dont buy dont buy" because you are just owning a shell of the company not a part of the company. expected price range of $66 to $68. Now go and have a look at the current price of the share.

My answer to him at that time was, its ok, just buy for me first, ill bank in the money first thing tomorrow. Why did i have such blind faith that this isnt a scam or there isnt something dodgy about it?. Because i saw the results personally. do i regret or feel its a scam after joining and doing hours and days of research? nope. in fact im buying and trading in a higher volume now.



http://www.cnbc.com/id/102010663

It really depends on you, whether you are the follower, or the leader. Leader leads by knowing themselves and identify an opportunity where no one else can see. Whereas a follower will listen to the opinion of others and make their deduction base on others opinion. So those who knew that buying alibaba shares were an opportunity went ahead and buy. Isnt that risk? can you imagine if everyone had listened to "professionals" saying dont buy dont buy. With so much negative news you expect it to go up?!are you mad or stupid?!

For the skeptics, i can only wish you the best of luck and you will only be proving my first point right by replying and being defensive towards my 2 cents remark. I will not envy your negative perception, maybe, you may have the last laugh if this fails tomorrow. But if it goes on for 1 to 2 years. Ill be silently enjoying my success, because i dare to try to make that first step and i have something called hope to look to. I will not regret for i know, with my positive attitude, im bound to bump into the right thing which will make me a bit richer than what i am today & yesterday. ( like UToken!)


For the ones looking to see if its the right investment?. only you can decide for yourself. Why i think this is different from the other e currency out there? because its the first one, and like everything that is first, it will always be the best. IE why macdonalds is more popular here in msia, but KFC is more popular in BRUNEI?. They entered the market first. why was chatime so successful but the rest not so?. Also because of its growing acceptance everywhere. The only way i can see this fail, is that when it has no value, and that will only happen when no one is willing to recognise and accept it. and Bitcoin after 5 years is still out there and someone out there is still accepting it with no concentrated group or culminated force pushing it forward till the last few recent years. But UToken? the company has already started aggressively promoting and encouraging merchants, businesses, services to trade and accept UToken. I can tell you many more other reasons, but at the end of the day, your attitude determines the outcome. So you decide for yourself, whether its worth the risk. You can take your time, but this i can tell you for a fact, the longer you procrastinate the higher the risk. The earlier you join the better if you ever do decide to.Or else because of contemplation, instead of being the one of the early birds to join you end up being one of the latest. If not just stay back and watch whether this will die in a day, a week, a month, half a year, a year, or many more years.

The choice is yours & yours alone, dont let doubt & fear cloud your mind, try and see it from an impartial point of view and if you can identify the key reasons why this will succeed, and you are willing to take the risk. Go ahead, because like everything in this world,no one knows except god knows what will happen tomorrow, so let your decision today be the best to your knowledge and ability today. Do your best, and let god handle the rest. Just be sure you're not throwing your babies milk money and your house and car into this. Only go in and invest with what you are comfortable sleeping at night with. ( Although i did throw my whole life savings into this ). Anyway months after joining UToken im out of this richer for sure =).

This post has been edited by DevilUserUK: Nov 22 2014, 08:22 AM


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andreiyy dont bother, had i read the negative perception in this discussion, i wouldnt have joined, and if i did not, i wont be earning my $800 per tick today and earning close to $200k.


Debating here about which party is correct is like debating how many stars are there in the sky. Nonsensical and pointless. . I applaud those who continue to condemn as though its your personal agenda to whether this business is a hoax or not. Thank to guys like you, guys like me continue to make money while you sit in front of the pc being a holy critic

This post has been edited by DevilUserUK: Dec 13 2014, 01:03 PM