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Vryon
post May 11 2014, 01:37 PM

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QUOTE(zDarkForceSz @ May 11 2014, 01:18 PM)
I using TT. If you fund using Debit/Credit Card can return to your Debit/Credit Card.

Zulutrade is follow people's signal (trade automatically with the person u follow).
ask tdoptions maybe is he a signal provider.
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QUOTE(tdoptions1689 @ May 11 2014, 01:27 PM)
Usually I deposit with CC and withdraw with TT. I never use eWallet because another charges will again another cost. You can withdraw through CC too, but only Visa are available. But I don't withdraw with CC, because TT a single charges with unlimited withdrawal amount. So TT the best for withdrawal, and deposit I prefer to choose CC.
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I know, i am joining him later on smile.gif . Alright thanks for the info guys.
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post May 11 2014, 01:59 PM

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Ok guys.
Instead of some people worrying or challenging my trade, I feeling tired and annoying with those question again. This is due to some of the live account I can't publicity for everyone to view. So, I will link my real account with my ZULU, so next week you will see a BLUE ($) Logo on my ZULU Imusing. I am following from the beginning of IMUSING, just both email address on different, so you can't see the REAL money logo there. Other than that, I will start publicity another PAMM for Public on HotForex since I can easily allocate my fund there for another PAMM account. I will start that account on 19th May 2014, so everyone can feel free to have a view there. So no more curiosity or worrying am I trading a REAL LIVE account now. So stop annoying me with those question, you want just follow or invest to PAMM, if don't want just do other research. Minimum to invest on PAMM fully manage by me are USD 1,000. Lower than that, walk to ZULU please. I am not shorting your fund anyway for my income. vmad.gif vmad.gif vmad.gif

I am just providing opportunity, and if you think I am another SCAM, you can feel free to walk away.

This post has been edited by tdoptions1689: May 11 2014, 02:18 PM
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post May 11 2014, 06:58 PM

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QUOTE(tdoptions1689 @ May 11 2014, 01:59 PM)
Ok guys.
Instead of some people worrying or challenging my trade, I feeling tired and annoying with those question again. This is due to some of the live account I can't publicity for everyone to view. So, I will link my real account with my ZULU, so next week you will see a BLUE ($) Logo on my ZULU Imusing. I am following from the beginning of IMUSING, just both email address on different, so you can't see the REAL money logo there. Other than that, I will start publicity another PAMM for Public on HotForex since I can easily allocate my fund there for another PAMM account. I will start that account on 19th May 2014, so everyone can feel free to have a view there. So no more curiosity or worrying am I trading a REAL LIVE account now. So stop annoying me with those question, you want just follow or invest to PAMM, if don't want just do other research. Minimum to invest on PAMM fully manage by me are USD 1,000. Lower than that, walk to ZULU please. I am not shorting your fund anyway for my income. vmad.gif  vmad.gif  vmad.gif

I am just providing opportunity, and if you think I am another SCAM, you can feel free to walk away.
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lol relax boss... biggrin.gif
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post May 11 2014, 07:14 PM

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QUOTE(chongtiensum @ May 11 2014, 06:58 PM)
lol relax boss...  biggrin.gif
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Sometime just feel annoying with those question. No wonder ZULU wants to protect all SP, don't let those followers to contact SP privately because of annoying question. Couple hundred bucks macam Million Dollar investment. I am not dream builder, genuine with track record. Not that type shouting here and there, then no record to see. What for I want begging for couple hundred bucks of investment with those annoying question? I think my 2 days trade on all ZULU account commission already more than those couple hundred bucks. If worry, just go Hong Leong Bank Saving Plan, 6 years guaranteed 20%.

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post May 11 2014, 07:15 PM

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QUOTE(chongtiensum @ May 11 2014, 06:58 PM)
lol relax boss...  biggrin.gif
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Mate, by the way your NEW IMPORT are Recon? Looking for FMG M, but don't want Recon.

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post May 11 2014, 07:43 PM

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QUOTE(tdoptions1689 @ May 11 2014, 12:36 PM)
To answer this question fr yourself, you need to start thinking about how much a fixed spread costs you in comparison to what a floating spread can cost you coupled with the commission.

For example, with a fixed spread, it's easy to calculate that for a 10,000 unit trade on the EUR/USD will cost you $1 per pip right? If the spread is always 2 pips, (A rather decent fixed spread) it will always cost you a total of $2 to open and later, close that trade. With variable set ups on STP/ECN/DMA processors, you may get a commission free spread on some pairs as low as 1 pip but also see the spread jump higher at times of low liquidity or who knows. All I'm saying is that here, you have to simply figure out what the spread is costing you.

In comparison, a commission for each trade can save you loads on the spread but add to the cost as well of course. Again, thinking of 10,000 unit trades, we'll figure it out for the EUR/USD pair.

Some broker usually charges $7 per lot per round turn so a 10,000 unit trade on the EUR/USD will cost $0.70 cents from start to finish, ($.35 to open the trade and $0.35 to close it) plus the cost of the spread. At times, I have seen zero spread or even open with immediate green on Divisa broker's feed but generally, I would peg it at about a 0.4 average spread, often providing me with trades that execute on a 0.3 spread amount. On a 100,000 unit trade, the spread then costs me $4.00 for a 0.4 spread and the commission another $7.0 for a total of $11.00 to trade 100,000 units.

So, for fixed spread, the trade is
Spread=cost
For commissioned brokers, the trade is
spread+commission=cost

None of this of course takes slippage into account which is another whole ball of wax.
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not to mention Trading Rebate can be an influence factor too..

Found this chart comparison, they have a spread+commission-rebate comparisons.

Comment anyone.
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post May 11 2014, 07:52 PM

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QUOTE(zDarkForceSz @ May 11 2014, 01:14 PM)
I using TT. Maybank2u. RM10.
You calculate yourself!

TT using bank account (Bank conversion rate + charges [RM10 Maybank]) / funding using Debit Card (VISA/Master conversion rate + x% bank charges [Maybank debit card is 1%]).
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Question: is Bank conversion rate (with TT) same as bank charges (with cc)? what are the respective percentages?
Vryon
post May 11 2014, 08:58 PM

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QUOTE(zDarkForceSz @ May 11 2014, 01:18 PM)
I using TT. If you fund using Debit/Credit Card can return to your Debit/Credit Card.

Zulutrade is follow people's signal (trade automatically with the person u follow).
ask tdoptions maybe is he a signal provider.
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i noticed in FAQ write 25 USD FLAT RATE yawn.gif . That much ? Guess ill be spending more time here learning from you guys brows.gif
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post May 11 2014, 09:50 PM

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QUOTE(tdoptions1689 @ May 11 2014, 07:14 PM)
Sometime just feel annoying with those question. No wonder ZULU wants to protect all SP, don't let those followers to contact SP privately because of annoying question. Couple hundred bucks macam Million Dollar investment. I am not dream builder, genuine with track record. Not that type shouting here and there, then no record to see. What for I want begging for couple hundred bucks of investment with those annoying question? I think my 2 days trade on all ZULU account commission already more than those couple hundred bucks. If worry, just go Hong Leong Bank Saving Plan, 6 years guaranteed 20%.
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u advertising,promising beautiful promise on public forum.of course got few newbies will ask questions.i thought u already prepare what is coming.
not all trader are pro,if pro,success they didt bother to follow signal.few hundred bucks macam nothing for u,but maybe for others very valuable.
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post May 11 2014, 10:27 PM

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QUOTE(lowya @ May 11 2014, 07:52 PM)
Question: is Bank conversion rate (with TT) same as bank charges (with cc)? what are the respective percentages?
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I don't think so. It might be lower

https://www.mastercard.com/global/currencyc...sion/index.html

VS

http://www.rhb.com.my/rate_charges/foreign...nge/fe_main.asp
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post May 11 2014, 11:02 PM

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QUOTE(boyvai @ May 11 2014, 09:50 PM)
u advertising,promising beautiful promise on public forum.of course got few newbies will ask questions.i thought u already prepare what is coming.
not all trader are pro,if pro,success they didt bother to follow signal.few hundred bucks macam nothing for u,but maybe for others very valuable.
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Yes, I am ready for some of the question. It is shown everything there did I trade using a live account? But started to ask how I build my business lar? Why I didn't send signal using REAL account lar? How is my PAMM growth lar? Can show your PAMM result or not lar? Can show your live account investor password or not lar? Are you the real guy who trading behind lar? It is kinda annoying when you already show everything there, not 1 but 3 account online for viewing. Don't you think it is already questioning till how people run their business? Why this and why that? I don't mind to leave this forum if you guys think I join here just for advertising purpose instead of sharing opportunity. I just try to be frankly, I am not ready to tell someone how I do my business, or what is my earning, or how I run my business? If think that I came here for full advertising purpose. Sound it, I don't mind to leave at all. I don't do beautiful promise anyway, I did what I should already. Did someone follow the real signal? Almost double up his account in two weeks. So are that only beautiful promise or sharing true opportunity? It is with live trading and live testimonial, not those BS. Don't you think asking here and there are already way too much?

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post May 11 2014, 11:11 PM

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Ok, I think it is enough for me. Since most of you guys here thinking I am here for advertising purpose, fxck it. No more sharing signal or something about trading from me.
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QUOTE(tdoptions1689 @ May 11 2014, 11:02 PM)
Yes, I am ready for some of the question. It is shown everything there did I trade using a live account? But started to ask how I build my business lar? Why I didn't send signal using REAL account lar? How is my PAMM growth lar? Can show your PAMM result or not lar? Can show your live account investor password or not lar? Are you the real guy who trading behind lar? It is kinda annoying when you already show everything there, not 1 but 3 account online for viewing. Don't you think it is already questioning till how people run their business? Why this and why that? I don't mind to leave this forum if you guys think I join here just for advertising purpose instead of sharing opportunity. I just try to be frankly, I am not ready to tell someone how I do my business, or what is my earning, or how I run my business? If think that I came here for full advertising purpose. Sound it, I don't mind to leave at all. I don't do beautiful promise anyway, I did what I should already. Did someone follow the real signal? Almost double up his account in two weeks. So are that only beautiful promise or sharing true opportunity? It is with live trading and live testimonial, not those BS. Don't you think asking here and there are already way too much?
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well thats your journey bro.no need to get angry to me.this is why i refuse to be an IB,fund manager,etc2.i almost to get my 1st trading license.but i refuse as i cant hold the pressure to maintain,trade in large capital.
u trading alone also u are the front service.my past trade company got many staff to back me up,i just trade.
so,if i on your situation,hired few peoples to do QnA services.done.

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QUOTE(tdoptions1689 @ May 11 2014, 11:02 PM)
Yes, I am ready for some of the question. It is shown everything there did I trade using a live account? But started to ask how I build my business lar? Why I didn't send signal using REAL account lar? How is my PAMM growth lar? Can show your PAMM result or not lar? Can show your live account investor password or not lar? Are you the real guy who trading behind lar? It is kinda annoying when you already show everything there, not 1 but 3 account online for viewing. Don't you think it is already questioning till how people run their business? Why this and why that? I don't mind to leave this forum if you guys think I join here just for advertising purpose instead of sharing opportunity. I just try to be frankly, I am not ready to tell someone how I do my business, or what is my earning, or how I run my business? If think that I came here for full advertising purpose. Sound it, I don't mind to leave at all. I don't do beautiful promise anyway, I did what I should already. Did someone follow the real signal? Almost double up his account in two weeks. So are that only beautiful promise or sharing true opportunity? It is with live trading and live testimonial, not those BS. Don't you think asking here and there are already way too much?
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QUOTE(tdoptions1689 @ May 11 2014, 11:11 PM)
Ok, I think it is enough for me. Since most of you guys here thinking I am here for advertising purpose, fxck it. No more sharing signal or something about trading from me.
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Calm down bro, all of us are here to share, teach, discuss and get clues from the others sweat.gif sweat.gif sweat.gif
I don't see how "most" of us here thinking you are advertising, at least from the threads


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post May 11 2014, 11:37 PM

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think positively, on the bright side, people asked you stupid and annoying questions is because you got their attention, which is a good thing.

should learn how to ignore those annoying questions ma
just be yourself lol

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post May 12 2014, 12:18 AM

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This is the biggest point why I don't like doing Financial and Investment Business field in Malaysia. A lot of them hoping to get rich, but they don't want risk or doesn't dare to take risk but wanna get rich quickly. There are no free lunch in this world. Sometime they won't ask, why those people who following in my account from USA, Spain, Germany, or other countries will follow without direct contacting with me or asking why this and why that? Isn't it easier for me just put there instead of wasting my time explaining here and there with those ridiculous question or outrageous request? They never ask who behind it, they never ask where is your REAL? They never ask how you trade? But they follow with at least couple of thousand dollars. Does it make sense? So what for I want to waste my time entertaining those question or doing some ads here for couple hundred of bucks followers?
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QUOTE(tdoptions1689 @ May 12 2014, 12:18 AM)
This is the biggest point why I don't like doing Financial and Investment Business field in Malaysia. A lot of them hoping to get rich, but they don't want risk or doesn't dare to take risk but wanna get rich quickly. There are no free lunch in this world. Sometime they won't ask, why those people who following in my account from USA, Spain, Germany, or other countries will follow without direct contacting with me or asking why this and why that? Isn't it easier for me just put there instead of wasting my time explaining here and there with those ridiculous question or outrageous request? They never ask who behind it, they never ask where is your REAL? They never ask how you trade? But they follow with at least couple of thousand dollars. Does it make sense? So what for I want to waste my time entertaining those question or doing some ads here for couple hundred of bucks followers?
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my opinion on your situation.type very detailed information about your trade,fund,etc,all questions on 1 long essay.when got question,copy paste.done.
those kind of human behaviour would effected your emotion also your trade strategy.
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QUOTE(boyvai @ May 12 2014, 12:46 AM)
my opinion on your situation.type very detailed information about your trade,fund,etc,all questions on 1 long essay.when got question,copy paste.done.
those kind of human behaviour would effected your emotion also your trade strategy.
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Nope, I don't think I need to do that. Opportunity don't come always, believe it or just walk away. I don't want to waste my time convincing people to go for the opportunity and putting money to their pocket. Only those MLM need to do so and I know myself not those kind and a true genuine trader, so I need not to convince those traditional person.
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Calm down calm down, just remember there are so many different kind of people with different kind of thinking, they got their own point of view and opinion, way of doing things, etc etc... So, if you feel like to entertain, just entertain, if feel like stupid, then just leave it and go chill with your friends. Don't be angry.

There was a time, one trader asked me a lot of questions, asked me explain this and that. I explained until myself fed up. Then I leave it.. I finally understand that certain ppl just ask ask ask, no action. No guts to take risk, scare get conned, scare hard earn money gone.. I just say save it. I am not gonna deal with this. We all here talk about profit.
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QUOTE(lowya @ May 11 2014, 07:52 PM)
Question: is Bank conversion rate (with TT) same as bank charges (with cc)? what are the respective percentages?
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This is VISA conversion rate tools here
I only know Maybank Debit Card charge 1% bank fee.
As of CURRENT RATE, VISA + 1% : 1 USD = 3.263400 MYR

Maybank CURRENT TT RATE, 1 USD = 3.2660 MYR exclude the RM10 charges. [Because of 2 days offday this may not be accurate.]

Sometimes VISA change their rate slower, when the Market is moving up / down fast to safe guard their interest.

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