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RigerZ
post Jul 17 2016, 09:00 PM

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Proton Wira Sedan 1.5 Manual (175000kms on the odo)

Driving Condition :
30% city 70% Highway
Morning no aircond and no jam, evening sometimes with aircond; traffic conditions after work vary but usually there will be a little bit of jam at least
One person, empty car, 14" rims, tires @ 32psi

a.KMs : 370 KM+-
b.Liters: 23-25ish
c.FC : 14km/l+-

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post May 24 2019, 11:36 AM

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1) Model : Wira 1.5 (M) EFi (2001)
2) Petrol Used : Shell 95
3) Engine Oil Used : Shell HX7 10w-40


4) Fuel Consumption : ~14km/l real measured average
5) Driving Condition : 70% highway 30% city
6) Average Speed/Max rpm : 70-80km/h, 1800-2300rpm
7) Latest mileage : ~400km
8) Modification : None
9) Tank Size : ~28 litre


4) Fuel Consumption : ~8.5km/l measured average
5) Driving Condition : 30% highway 70% city
6) Average Speed/Max rpm : ~40km/h, 1800-2300rpm
7) Latest mileage : ~210km
8) Modification : None
9) Measured fuel usage : ~26 litre


4) Fuel Consumption : ~17.84km/l measured trip from Perak to KL with no jam
5) Driving Condition : 90% highway 10% city
6) Average Speed/Max rpm : ~90km/h, ~2500rpm
7) Measured mileage : ~223km
8) Modification : None
9) Measured fuel usage : ~12.5 litre

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post Jul 31 2020, 03:16 PM

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Surprisingly little feedback from Axia owners...

1) Model : 2016 Axia SE Auto
2) Petrol Used : Petronas 95
3) Engine Oil Used : Perodua 0w-20


Long Distance
4) Fuel Consumption (in the meter) : 15km/l
4) Fuel Consumption (self measured) : 18.5km/l
5) Driving Condition : 50% highway 50% coastal road. No traffic. 1 extra passenger, +80kg. Half the drive was without aircond
6) Average Speed: 80-85km/h
7) Mileage : ~220km
8) Modification : None

Have yet to measure in full city driving

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post Oct 31 2020, 02:45 PM

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1) Model : 2016 Axia SE Auto
2) Petrol Used : Petronas 95
3) Engine Oil Used : Perodua 0w-20


Long Distance
4) Fuel Consumption (in the meter) : 15km/l
4) Fuel Consumption (self measured) : 18.5km/l
5) Driving Condition : 50% highway 50% coastal road. No traffic. 1 extra passenger, +80kg. Half the drive was without aircond
6) Average Speed: 80-85km/h
7) Mileage : ~220km
8) Modification : None


*UPDATE: Urban Driving*
4) Fuel Consumption (in the meter) : 15.5km/l
4) Fuel Consumption (self measured) : 13.5km/l
5) Driving Condition : 90% Urban (mostly short distances and traffic lights), 10% Extra urban, almost no air cond, no passengers.
6) Average Speed: 40km/h
7) Mileage : 329km
8) Fuel used: 24.38L
8) Modification : None

Note: I have reset the FC meter after refuelling today and will see how it goes

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post Oct 31 2020, 06:00 PM

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QUOTE(SleeplessEyes @ Aug 12 2020, 08:55 AM)

Latest fuel consumption:
Petronas RON 95
Full tank , 23L = 353.3 Km for 23L = 15.4KM/L

4) Driving condition : Mostly city driving, some highway , but drive aggressively
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How aggressive is your aggressive? Deng can still return 15km/L
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post Dec 26 2020, 10:41 PM

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1) Model : 2016 Axia SE Auto
2) Petrol Used : Petronas 95
3) Engine Oil Used : Perodua 0w-20


Long Distance
4) Fuel Consumption (in the meter) : 15km/l
4) Fuel Consumption (self measured) : 18.5km/l
5) Driving Condition : 50% highway 50% coastal road. No traffic. 1 extra passenger, +80kg. Half the drive was without aircond
6) Average Speed: 80-85km/h
7) Mileage : ~220km
8) Modification : None

Update
4) Fuel Consumption (in the meter) : 11.4km/l
4) Fuel Consumption (self measured) : 12.18km/l
5) Driving Condition : 100% urban within Subang Jaya
6) Average Speed: 30km/h
7) Mileage : ~284km
8) Modification : None
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post Dec 26 2020, 11:22 PM

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QUOTE(Steponlego @ Dec 26 2020, 11:14 PM)
City drive FC surprisingly not that different compared to my old Persona 1.6.
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I also feel something's not right with the FC.
Moreover I almost never used the aircond, no passengers, and tires are pumped to specified pressure. unsure.gif
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post Dec 27 2020, 12:55 AM

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QUOTE(SleeplessEyes @ Dec 27 2020, 12:43 AM)

Yes I know mine is manual, so your auto should get around 14KM/L on mix driving.

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Mine isnt mixed, its full urban.
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post Feb 20 2021, 12:06 AM

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QUOTE(RigerZ @ Dec 26 2020, 10:41 PM)
1) Model : 2016 Axia SE Auto
2) Petrol Used : Petronas 95
3) Engine Oil Used : Perodua 0w-20

4) Fuel Consumption (in the meter) : 11.4km/l
4) Fuel Consumption (self measured) : 12.18km/l
5) Driving Condition : 100% urban within Subang Jaya
6) Average Speed: 30km/h
7) Mileage : ~284km
8) Modification : None
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Interesting.

My previous refuel with 12.18km/l was on Petronas 95.
My latest refill using Shell 95 gave 10.8km/l despite driving with all the same conditions.
Too bad it slipped my mind to try Petron or BHP this round

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post May 28 2021, 02:42 PM

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1) Model : 2016 Axia SE Auto
2) Modification : None
3) Engine Oil : Perodua 0w-20


Petronas 95
4) Driving Condition : 100% urban
5) Average Speed: 30km/h
6) Mileage : ~284km
7) Refuel amount: 23.3L
8) Fuel Consumption : 12.18km/l


Shell 95
4) Driving Condition : 100% urban
5) Average Speed: 30km/h
6) Mileage : ~257km
7) Refuel amount: 23.7L
8) Fuel Consumption : 10.8km/l


BHP 95
4) Driving Condition : 90% urban, 10% extra urban/highway
5) Average Speed: 30-60km/h?
6) Mileage : ~281km
7) Refuel amount: 22.5L
8) Fuel Consumption : 12.48km/l

Petron coming next

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post Aug 5 2021, 12:43 PM

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1) Model : 2016 Axia SE Auto
2) Modification : None
3) Engine Oil : Perodua 0w-20


Petronas 95
4) Driving Condition : 100% urban
5) Average Speed: 30km/h
6) Mileage : ~284km
7) Refuel amount: 23.3L
8) Fuel Consumption : 12.18km/l


Shell 95
4) Driving Condition : 100% urban
5) Average Speed: 30km/h
6) Mileage : ~257km
7) Refuel amount: 23.7L
8) Fuel Consumption : 10.8km/l


BHP 95
4) Driving Condition : 90% urban, 10% extra urban/highway
5) Average Speed: 30-60km/h?
6) Mileage : ~281km
7) Refuel amount: 22.5L
8) Fuel Consumption : 12.48km/l


Petron 95
4) Driving Condition : 75% urban, 25% highway
5) Average Speed: 30km/h urban, 80km/h highway
6) Mileage : ~249km
7) Refuel amount: 18.5L
8) Fuel Consumption : 13.45km/l

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post Aug 5 2021, 03:14 PM

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QUOTE(ayamxxx @ Aug 5 2021, 02:36 PM)
I have thought the Axia can give 15-17km/l easily
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bear in mind my driving is almost all urban, meaning short trips, a lot of accelerate and braking, traffic lights, etc. not to mention only averaging only about ~30km/h

With more extra-urban conditions I think 15-16km/l is feasible

so far the best i managed was 18km/l on a long distance trip. But that one had an 80+kg passenger.


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post Aug 11 2021, 02:32 PM

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Petron 95 mixed Petronas 95
4) Driving Condition : ~95% highway, ~5% urban
5) Average Speed: 80km/h highway, 30km/h urban
6) Mileage : 71.6km
7) Refuel amount: 3.9L
8) Fuel Consumption : 18.35km/l

No passengers and aircond was off. Now I wonder how the claimed 21km/l would be possible
Add: The meter showed a supposed 20.5km/l whistling.gif

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post Sep 26 2021, 10:31 AM

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QUOTE(RigerZ @ Aug 11 2021, 02:32 PM)
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Petron 95 mixed Petronas 95
4) Driving Condition : ~95% highway, ~5% urban
5) Average Speed: 80km/h highway, 30km/h urban
6) Mileage : 71.6km
7) Refuel amount: 3.9L
8) Fuel Consumption : 18.35km/l

No passengers and aircond was off. Now I wonder how the claimed 21km/l would be possible
Add: The meter showed a supposed 20.5km/l whistling.gif
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4) Driving Condition : ~85% highway, ~15% urban
5) Average Speed: ~80km/h
6) Mileage : 374km
7) Refuel amount: 19.0L
8) Fuel Consumption : 19.68km/l

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post Oct 4 2021, 09:05 PM

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QUOTE(JakkReaper @ Oct 4 2021, 10:13 AM)
4) Driving Condition : mostly urban now
5) Average Speed: 60km/h
6) Mileage : 220km
7) Refuel amount: 30L
8) Fuel Consumption : 7.3km/L

I don't know what happened to my car it's only about 3years old Honda City. I was getting good mileage around 400km per full tank. Then suddenly after my 4th service at the 3s centre the Fuel economy goes down on the immediate next tank and got worse from there. Now I'm clocking a mere 200ish per 30L !!!! That's absurd. I'm super frustrated here. What could have gone wrong with the service and what are my recommended action to take? Please help me sifu
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something's definitely wrong in the formula somewhere.....

Was there anything different done during the 4th service?

And, have you checked your tires if any of them are low on air (especially the front-driven wheels) ?

And, is your urban driving in smooth traffic or constant short trips, traffic lights, jams, etc?
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post Oct 5 2021, 07:37 PM

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QUOTE(JakkReaper @ Oct 5 2021, 09:50 AM)
None I think. drain plugs, oil filter sad.gif

Tires pressure should be fine as I have just gotten new tires recently. they seem fine.

Driving style remains the same cos i know the way i drive. really scratching my head now  icon_question.gif
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Things I could think of, but may not be likely either:

1. They put in some fuel additive/cleaner which inadvertently affected your fuel consumption
2. During part of the service they did some routine software updating of your engine control unit which inadvertently affected your fuel consumption
3. Fuel is leaking somewhere

That said, do have a proper check of the tire pressures just to be sure
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post Oct 31 2021, 09:22 AM

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QUOTE(JakkReaper @ Oct 6 2021, 10:09 AM)
thanks Rigerz. sounds plausible. I'll have them check the problems out
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any updates?
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post Sep 30 2023, 10:28 AM

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QUOTE(Hummingbird @ Sep 29 2023, 12:07 PM)
Wah so Petron can give better figure?
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Actually

After much observation since my post

I've concluded that petrol brands dont affect consumption

But it is the different pumps at different stations that skew the measurements and give false findings

A pump that refills slower can fill in more petrol before it cuts off, thus giving the illusion the car used more petrol.



 

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