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 Long term effects of overclocking., Please share your experience.

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TSseveneleven
post Jul 18 2006, 03:07 PM

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QUOTE(almostthere @ Jul 18 2006, 12:25 PM)
Every 6 months there's always a topic similiar like this. If you're afraid to overclock, then just don't and instead experiment in finding the best bandwidth by fiddling with the miscellanous RAM timings if you're on A64.
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Read jcheong's reply.

If its been the same topic every 6 month then why don't somebody please stickify this topic.
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post Jul 18 2006, 03:56 PM

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I am here to share my experience of overclocking. I have my first PC for Intel Celeron 300 (non-A) version and Gigabyte motherboard. The celeron could go up to 450MHz with 100MHz FSB. But it can't remain stable since it is too hot to run at 450MHz at default voltage. So I make it running at 373MHz all the time with gaming and SETI@Home. I found no problems with overclocking at that stage. And I am happy with the increase of 24% in the clock too.

The second rig I bought is AMD Athlon XP 1800+ (Palomino) and Epox 8KHA+ motherboard. Since it is the earlier version of Athlon XP it is not happy to run at higher speed. I did not overclock it. After 1 year ++ the power supply unit come with the casing burnt and I had my motherboard fried. That time only I realized that there are severals bolted capacitors on my motherboard.
Later, I bought an Asus A7V8X-X and iCute 450W power supply. It runs very stable. I replaced the bolted capacitors and the power socket on the Epox motherboard and went to try to boot up. Unluckily I burn the processor and sent to claim for a new one. AMD replaces me with a Thoroughbred B 1800+ version. The overclocking ability is much higher than Palomino one.
Now I have this Thoroughbred B running at 2104MHz @ 1.75V (11.5*183) all the time without problem. But provided the vendalation is good enough and the ambient temperature is not too hot.
Here I would like to say that overclocking has not much effects on the durability of the processor, motherboard or PSU provided they are quality one. Do NOT overclock your processor when you're not sure that whether your PSU could supply enough constant voltage to your motherboard and processor. Make sure you have good cooling and good power supply before overclock.
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post Jul 18 2006, 08:58 PM

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QUOTE(kingmaker_20 @ Jul 18 2006, 12:18 AM)
So it's due to overclock?How did ya overclock? rclxub.gif
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using Ati tools lah,with cap ayam psu and cooler! biggrin.gif
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post Jul 18 2006, 11:02 PM

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overclocking, not much of an actual damage if u supply it without powers that are under its specification..damage is exponential when u torque the voltage, but being smart, u dun pump 50% more voltage in, duh! Oh, heat also damages the cpu, its technical, down to the silicon level..

OC smartly la, dun be stoopid kaw kaw hantam, my 2.4 oc to 3.5 for..aa..3 years no hal also, absolutely stable.
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post Jul 19 2006, 12:26 AM

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Most of top of the line hardware is over design such that it can accommodate for higher loads. Having the necessary knowledge in limits of any particular hardware is imperative so that you don't step over the line so to speak.

Well, the analogy is quite straightforward, a Ferrari is design to travel more than 200km/h and yet still maintain stability and drivability. Compare that to a typical car and I reckon you would get the picture right away.

This post has been edited by PCcrazy: Jul 19 2006, 12:26 AM
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post Jul 22 2006, 01:12 AM

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My old Athlon XP1800+...o/c for 2 or 3 years at 2Ghz. Finally KOed...i think mainly due to the new Cooler Master fan which is quite but not very cool i installed later.

Results?

I took out the CPU and part of it was melted...like kena chip away..

Hot stuff man....LOL.

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post Jul 22 2006, 12:42 PM

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Ah .. one thing for sure in OC is depends on your luck biggrin.gif

A processor had a Average life span of 10 years ...
The mulfuntion rate of a processor is in normal distribution of 5 days to 50 years ( same as other electrical product ... where some good product mulfunction in seconds and some evn after 20 years also no problem ... the one longest ussage light bulb is recorded to be 38Years 24/7 without fail !!! they are lucky to had that biggrin.gif since now the most expensive light bulb .. if open 24/7 .. after five years ... most of it blacken tongue.gif )

The normal distribution tells all the story biggrin.gif
So you are lucky with your OCed Parts running over a long period of time while other might get their parts mulfunction .. same goes with Capacitors and PSUs .....

We can't predict Luck but we can Be prepared to face what we might face ...

Since OC is mean to be OCed at your own RISK ... You can go for it if you like to and no one will blam you as long as you dont blam yourself biggrin.gif

Ah .. one more thing ... One architecture had bigger Nanometers in their processor conducting lines ... for example 8 atom per crosection of line ... New nanoarchitecture had narrow the atom per line and hence increase Transistor per inch and Heat dissipation ( too much atom ... too much thermal resistance ) .... for example 2 atom per crossection of line ....

if the atom Failing rate is fix at 1 faliure per year ... then your 2 atom structure will be having faliure rate of about 2 years (if and only the two atom are situated side by side in a cross section and may cause a closed circuit to be open and hence consider mulfunction ... ) ... and for those 8 atom one .. it may take at least 8 years to fail ...

Anyway .. this may not always the case as now our technology had thermally reduce (expcially conroe biggrin.gif ) and the Failing rate per atom had decrease as not much high temp produced biggrin.gif ....

So still .. the failing rate still depends on your Luck biggrin.gif

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post Jul 22 2006, 09:11 PM

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Used to have a P3 that i OC'ed from 500 to 700Mhz. Could go higher even though at stock cooling it was 37C-45C depending on load. Never bothered as it was a bit risky with a crappy PSU.

My current rig is not OC'ed. Only pushed the GPU with ATITools. Won't dare OC'ing my AMD XP2500+ even with my Coolermaster Aero7+ installed. Temps now are around 53C with no load.

And i believe Bartons like my XP2500 are extremely overclockable. The FSB can be pushed from 166 to 200.
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post Jul 22 2006, 10:36 PM

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computer is not a land for u to keep it on~ day by day the value decrease~ hehe~

juz for u info, try to use speedfan n check the voltage option~
then compair a high end psu n cap ayam psu
~ my i-cute psu supply 11.6-11.7volt to my mobo for it 12volt rail while my new sansun supply 11.9-11.8volt to my mobo maa~

can u see the different?? high end stuff is not about how it look like, it more on how it work n perform..

btw one more info, unsufficient power supply do kill ur mobo~ someone please vote me on this smile.gif
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post Jul 22 2006, 10:50 PM

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All i can say is, get good quality parts and reputable cooling components.

And of course, know what you're doing. I love pushing every single components to its limits
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post Jul 22 2006, 11:12 PM

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QUOTE(kucingfight @ Jul 22 2006, 10:50 PM)
All i can say is, get good quality parts and reputable cooling components.

And of course, know what you're doing. I love pushing every single components to its limits
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i'll more prefer to use this word: advance.
pushing to advance is better to describe...

limit, is not defined...
using xtreme cooling u get bumped another 50%, is this the limit?
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post Jul 22 2006, 11:17 PM

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QUOTE(QD_buyer @ Jul 18 2006, 09:58 PM)
using Ati tools lah,with cap ayam psu and cooler! biggrin.gif
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Slowly overclock don straight push to the max, if u see artifacts lower clock speed slightly...
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post Jul 23 2006, 02:55 AM

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QUOTE(Westley @ Jul 22 2006, 11:12 PM)
i'll more prefer to use this word: advance.
pushing to advance is better to describe...

limit, is not defined...
using xtreme cooling u get bumped another 50%, is this the limit?
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Think there's no point of splitting hairs here.

Obviously, pushing it to the limits with what u hav
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post Jul 23 2006, 03:57 AM

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QUOTE(Westley @ Jul 22 2006, 11:12 PM)
i'll more prefer to use this word: advance.
pushing to advance is better to describe...

limit, is not defined...
using xtreme cooling u get bumped another 50%, is this the limit?
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"Pushing to advance" is simply bad english...i'm not too sure what u mean by that sweat.gif
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post Jul 23 2006, 06:50 AM

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Pushing to the limit would be better.
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post Jul 23 2006, 12:25 PM

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PUSH to the LIMIT and back a little for stability ...
Who knows suddenly your PSU not enough Juice and performance drop .. and JAM the whole system with BSOD biggrin.gif
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post Jul 23 2006, 01:50 PM

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RIGmaster, what PSU you using now?
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post Jul 23 2006, 09:05 PM

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I've overclock my athlonXp2600 1.9GHz @ 2.3Ghz w/ abit an7, 2X corsair VS 512MB DDR400, AsusEN6600, SBLive! Value and Acbel 400W PSU. Using for it for gaming almost everyday for about 2 Years. Yet still performs very well but my old SBlive live card start to show some Prob. Distortions occur when using midrange volume. maybe bcoz the pci run overspecs while agp and ddr run according to specs. or maybe! the sblive card is too old already, bought it since Creative launch it several years ago...
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post Jul 27 2006, 01:34 PM

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i love pushing the limit. My old 2800+ barton was running 3.0 Ghz, my winchester, venice were all running 2.6 Ghz and my 4400X2 was running 2.7 Ghz. Now my Opty 170 is running 2.95 (tune down)

OC is my life now. i love it but the prob is i tend to spend more on cooling now sad.gif

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post Jul 27 2006, 02:51 PM

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QUOTE(seveneleven @ Jul 23 2006, 01:50 PM)
RIGmaster, what PSU you using now?
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PSU ...
How ah .. using a Cooler Master 550W SLI and the Power meter only show ussage of <100W idle ..... <150W on load ....

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