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post Mar 19 2014, 04:50 PM

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QUOTE(Hongchai @ Mar 19 2014, 04:48 PM)
Haha... No choice lar... I allocated 50% of my money to buy this counter... Loads quite heavy...
Getting married end of the year... Aiming to cover my expenses nia  flex.gif
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Better dun bet with your marriage money leh... later if luck no good, have to do reception dinner at 'tai pai tong'.. sweat.gif sweat.gif sweat.gif
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post Mar 19 2014, 04:51 PM

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QUOTE(TakoC @ Mar 19 2014, 04:50 PM)
Personally I don't see any attractive catalyst about furniture industry.
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sure boh.. let me give u huge hint..

USD

get it?

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post Mar 19 2014, 04:53 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Mar 19 2014, 04:52 PM)
Waaaaa.....

quick share photos.

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I am sure Gark wants to kiapoh also. laugh.gif
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yah yah.. pics or GTFO.. hahaha

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post Mar 19 2014, 04:55 PM

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QUOTE(TakoC @ Mar 19 2014, 04:53 PM)
Yes. The only thing you keep mentioning..
What else?

Cement? Project all hanging, cement also hanging? hmm.gif
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yes.. but u know WHY usd is relevant to furniture industry? tongue.gif

cement is currently over supply in malaysia, saw the report and uptake from analyst report

most cement makers now starting to give rebate.. laugh.gif
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post Mar 19 2014, 04:55 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Mar 19 2014, 04:55 PM)
semen hilang 1.4% on first day of purchase vmad.gif
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Free dividend for 1Q... tongue.gif
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post Mar 19 2014, 04:56 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Mar 19 2014, 04:55 PM)
You want to give fair value or intrinsic value?

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wah this i not high level enough to judge.. sweat.gif

you big sifu.. you give FV lar... tongue.gif
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post Mar 19 2014, 05:00 PM

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fuyoh... inari can really smash through the roof today... sweat.gif

Not bad for ONE analyst report. laugh.gif
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post Mar 19 2014, 05:02 PM

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QUOTE(TakoC @ Mar 19 2014, 04:59 PM)
U splashing cold water on Pinky ah? Haha!

USD... Export?
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Just telling what i think mah... wink.gif

Yes Malaysia furniture industry is 90+% exported and sold in USD terms.. wink.gif But all profits reported will be RM...

The sector will be hot as long as USD/RM exchange stays high...
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post Mar 19 2014, 05:04 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Mar 19 2014, 05:03 PM)
Soviets oops I mean Russians now dew chow with US wor...no impact? hmm.gif
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even war also.. in ukraine only mah... americans still buys furniture right? tongue.gif

Except recession at US, ppl no money buy furniture then this sector can close shop. laugh.gif
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post Mar 19 2014, 05:18 PM

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QUOTE(TakoC @ Mar 19 2014, 05:06 PM)
I got question, Professor gark..
Demand high not?
Why they want buy from Malaysia not other place? Good quality, low price due to low cost?

I thought u are the one that recommend him LAF? Now say not good (okay okay stock)
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lets do the maths..me no professor

wood - paid in rm
salary - paid in rm
other expenses - paid in rm

sales - received in USD

Furniture is very very competitive industry, most of the time they survive on <5% margin hence when USD drop many get stuck and most lose money with factory equipment underutilized. Coupled with the bad housing market (hence less demand) in us since the financial crisis in 2008.

From 2008-2013 many malaysian saw mills & furniture manufacturer closed, even in cheap labor company in Indonesia was not spared, >50% close shop. No one want to do this kind of business and capacity drop by half. This created a product vacuum where only the fittest and lowest cost survived.

Now is reversal. As USD appreciate, product cost in RM and IDR is now much more competitive against other country and suddenly margin increase to >10% based on exchange rate differences. This enable them to lower price, make higher margin and have higher sales at the same time.

Now, this WILL not last forever, as now the exciting margins will prompt previous companies which is closed down to restart operation or new entrants will come in again. once reach saturation OR USD drop OR other competitor comes in then this sector will start to cool down due to overcapacity (just like recent gloves was so over capacity, glove makers slash 10-15% off selling price to move product, especially nitrile)

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post Mar 19 2014, 05:19 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Mar 19 2014, 05:07 PM)
I think semen LaFark I sendiri discover one... unsure.gif
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I recommended him INTP as a cement stock.. he scold me............


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post Mar 19 2014, 05:22 PM

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QUOTE(felixmask @ Mar 19 2014, 05:21 PM)
you got buy or not ?
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sure got lar.. i am already in since 1X,500.... whistling.gif
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post Mar 19 2014, 05:24 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Mar 19 2014, 05:23 PM)
means...this is not a buy-and-forget stock hmm.gif
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NO stock is buy and forget.. ALL stocks need to be monitored.. only difference less or more only.. rolleyes.gif

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post Mar 19 2014, 05:34 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Mar 19 2014, 05:33 PM)
Utusan Melayu lost my company 90% of its invested capital laugh.gif

Dunno why my bos bought it doh.gif
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write off only ler... whistling.gif
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post Mar 19 2014, 08:04 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Mar 19 2014, 07:34 PM)
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No need so hard sell.

The few postings regarding Inari posting last Oct worth reading again....... smile.gif

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*your reply to me was 2 pages down*
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No hard sell lah.. just explain the facts. Did tell in there this phenomenon will not last forever one.. so not golden ticket. All listed down all the significant risks... tongue.gif

Yeah.. i saw the reply.. i always skeptical on TP. Anyway was right wat.. PE still at ~10x...if based on last Q report. tongue.gif

And lucky amerton did perform well.. laugh.gif

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post Mar 19 2014, 08:10 PM

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BTW i am now reading financial fraud reports foreign listed china companies...

Very nice read , they write better than detective novel. The lengths some of these analyst goes to check on these companies put the auditors to shame (the current one i am reading is audited by PwC since 2011... rolleyes.gif )

NQ Mobile... http://www.muddywatersresearch.com/wp-cont...NQ_10242013.pdf

If got time highly suggest to read other companies (some of them even funnier) at ...

http://www.muddywatersresearch.com/research/

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post Mar 19 2014, 09:48 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Mar 19 2014, 08:26 PM)
Hahaha..... must convince them not to buy. whistling.gif whistling.gif
heeeeehehe laugh.gif

What is right what? whistling.gif

Anyway, I found it.

Thanks Uncle Google.  https://www.google.com/search?q=inari%3B+af...ox-a&channel=sb

Oct 2013, they raised TP to 1.70

Dec 2013: https://www.affintrade.com/gcAF/download/In...0CU%20Affin.pdf TP raised to 2.13

Feb 2014: http://www.theedgemalaysia.com/business-ne...-research-.html TP raised to 2.55.

Today: http://www.theedgemalaysia.com/business-ne...-to-rm333-.html TP now 3.33.

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You know what....

Since the day you buy....

Affin kept on increasing TP.

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Normal for them change tp like changing clothes... that is why never believe their tp.... laugh.gif
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post Mar 20 2014, 10:58 AM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Mar 20 2014, 08:36 AM)
Heeeehehe laugh.gif

Have to use your posting again.

Good reference material!

Excellent!

Sector is warming up, no?

The horses race...  icon_idea.gif  icon_idea.gif

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Wah so clear your charts... seems like homer is still the laggard despite having the best fundamentals vs all 4.. hmm.gif
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post Mar 20 2014, 10:59 AM

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QUOTE(panasonic88 @ Mar 20 2014, 08:40 AM)
Good morning boon!

Wah early morning saw horses! Kinda excited, I tot I was in 马场! Placing bet before the horse race at 9am ka tongue.gif

All 4 horse chart looks good!

I have Horse 3 in my portfolio biggrin.gif
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Wah so bullish on furniture stock.. i thought you play divvy stocks? laugh.gif
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post Mar 20 2014, 11:00 AM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Mar 20 2014, 08:45 AM)
Morning.

Horse 3, fundamentals pretty stable.

The dark horse is actually horse 4!!!

This one, the profit turnaround came in slow but did you see how strong it caught up since CNY? wink.gif

If I hadn't made my pick, I would have bought this horse.......  sweat.gif
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Then horse one.. is 'cacat' horse issit? run slower than others.. tongue.gif

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