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andrekua2
post Mar 24 2014, 11:43 PM

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QUOTE(billy_overheat @ Mar 24 2014, 10:59 PM)
maybe pick it up when it's in the lowest? Since medical gloves can't be used repeatedly and our gloves are being distributed world wide, will it be a good keeper for long term? Hospitals do need gloves, a lot.  hmm.gif  hmm.gif
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I really wonder about this. While it is true that Malaysia alone is responsible for a big chunk of the gloves worldwide, question remain, do the world outside of stock trading knows about this? In the end, we remain an OEM, much like Foxxconn is to Apple. I think Malaysia has a lot of catching up to do about brand recognition. Supermax, which has their own in house distribution in Europe, which analysts said over and over, should help them get better margins, but have a look at their profit, not impressive.

Pre H1N1, glove industry didn't get the limelight. My client used to service one of the glove makers, said dealing with them give you one of the lowest margins. Yes, they may had volumes, but ridiculously cheap.
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post Mar 24 2014, 11:46 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Mar 24 2014, 11:33 PM)
Not as simple as that.

I curi Gark's comments for you...
Top Glove profit report stated the following:
From: http://announcements.bursamalaysia.com/EDM...l%20Results.pdf

Decline in ASP (average selling price)
Margin pressure from increased competition.

Then if you read on... they (Top Glove) wants to add 6 more nitrile glove lines....

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You know how many lines Hartalega want to add? Whopping 72lines. That's more than what they currently have. Its a war out there. No one knows how it will end.
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post Mar 24 2014, 11:59 PM

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QUOTE(Boon3 @ Mar 24 2014, 11:46 PM)
YES, to be precise...

Top Glove has reported 5 consecutive quarters of lower profit.
Supermax reported A profit decline on Feb after 7 consecutive quarters of profit growth.
Kossan is on a 7 consecutive quarters of profit growth.
Harta reported A profit decline on Feb after 5 consecutive quarters of profit growth

And do remember I had stated last week that the BOOM time is over for the glove sector....
Tonight charts is simply to highlight the drastic weakness in the whole glove sector. wink.gif
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The reality was NR gloves is dirt cheap, low margin stuffs. That's why the industry is not looking good. Hartalega came into picture in 2008, took off with 90% Nitrile. Back then when I started dealing with the suppliers to Hartalega, I was sceptical when I was told this is extraordinary, I never believe after looking through TG report. Seeing how Hartalega took off from a RM2 debut all the way till it is now still sounds like fairy tale. Smallest production lines of all beats industry leaders profit.

That's why all scrambling to install Nitrile lines. Kossan was first to copy. Hartalega also scrambling now because they only produce 13b, and others are catching up. I think Hartalega also will start to suffer deterioration in profit margin from here on, but luck is on their side. Their machine is the fastest, automated. Secondly, they use better materials for machines. I hardly did any repairs related, unless its caused by fire breakout. Their gloves is thinner than Kossan's, lower cost.

Nothing is guaranteed moving forward.
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post Mar 25 2014, 08:44 AM

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Today will be the last day of the run. I think the appetite still there. I think around high 130-140. Im parting too if I can get 50% profit. Time to look away and let it consolidate before moving higher.

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post Mar 25 2014, 09:21 AM

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135 will be 50% for me and looking to sell...
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post Mar 25 2014, 09:55 AM

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QUOTE(gark @ Mar 25 2014, 09:52 AM)
very little only lah.. no need count..  tongue.gif

Insas momentum continues.. 65 mil volume.  thumbup.gif
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Was monitoring then internet down for few minutes... on back, already boom...

Misses out on FRB cause focus too much on Insas

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post Mar 25 2014, 10:01 AM

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Insas is revived!!!
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post Mar 25 2014, 10:04 AM

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QUOTE(foofoosasa @ Mar 25 2014, 10:03 AM)
good luck yea..

if me continue play like this later got heart attack .  laugh.gif
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If yesterday you didnt sell and sit on paper profit, you would be stable like gark...

If you bought below RM1, what is there to worry... thumbup.gif
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post Mar 25 2014, 10:09 AM

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QUOTE(gark @ Mar 25 2014, 10:08 AM)
LOL dont trade in and out...

In the end you may turn profits into loss..

If you are confident just hold and ride the profits.  wink.gif

If you not confident in the first place, by selling it off, why buy again?  wink.gif

See the logic?  tongue.gif
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gark kor average up also steady... nothing to worry... shark is in the house.
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post Mar 25 2014, 10:21 AM

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Malton climb on HO HUP JD?
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post Mar 25 2014, 10:37 AM

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Looks like Insas is trapped... forcing retail buyer to sell to them...
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post Mar 25 2014, 10:45 AM

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It will be a long time before it catch the fever again based on previous experience...
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post Mar 25 2014, 10:54 AM

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A bit regret set my selling price too high... Now seem like 110-115 very possible this week.
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post Mar 25 2014, 10:58 AM

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QUOTE(gark @ Mar 25 2014, 10:56 AM)
If no confident mah sell loh while you still can.  tongue.gif
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It is not that I had no confident. Otherwise I would sold it long before it rally. Hold for a month liao.

I just want to trade around and find others with good valuation and potential upside. Insas is good, but sideways for too long sometimes.
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post Mar 25 2014, 11:19 AM

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Buy rate drop from 66% to 51%...

The net is set liao, rounding up the ikan bilis in circles... see which ikan bilis wanna jump out
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post Mar 25 2014, 11:40 AM

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Insas going down fast...

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post Mar 25 2014, 02:55 PM

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Dump Insas @ 118... was tempted to grab at 114 but not greedy enough.

I think I will buy again if this week can hold above 120.
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post Mar 25 2014, 03:59 PM

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QUOTE(gark @ Mar 25 2014, 03:55 PM)
Haha Insas now replace with inari breakout from 2.70 LOL... laugh.gif
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Inari alway out perform unlike Insas.

Switching to malton
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post Mar 25 2014, 04:17 PM

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My bro took the risk and enter 2.63 this morning... I think 20% off TP is quite risky liao at this price.
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post Mar 25 2014, 04:21 PM

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QUOTE(jonchai @ Mar 25 2014, 04:17 PM)
No le, missed liao. Not enough funds even at 2.x

My bet is on 0099. They issued good dividend  brows.gif

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EPS quite low woh?

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