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TSPost-Je-Ape-Ape
post Feb 18 2014, 11:54 PM, updated 12y ago

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Hey everyone, I jz got my car... Tire dah botak dah.. Previous owner tak tukar... haizz... =_= but nevermind, cuz I got a nice offer for a set of tire+rim combo.. He is offering me Achilles ATR Sport tires. Is there something I should know about behind that nbeautiful price-tag?
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post Feb 25 2014, 06:03 PM

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cheap and gooding tyres.

nothing to complain about.


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post Feb 25 2014, 07:19 PM

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QUOTE(Post-Je-Ape-Ape @ Feb 18 2014, 11:54 PM)
Hey everyone, I jz got my car... Tire dah botak dah.. Previous owner tak tukar... haizz... =_= but nevermind, cuz I got a nice offer for a set of tire+rim combo.. He is offering me Achilles ATR Sport tires. Is there something I should know about behind that nbeautiful price-tag?
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Tyre size??
Budget??
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post Feb 25 2014, 07:41 PM

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QUOTE(Post-Je-Ape-Ape @ Feb 18 2014, 11:54 PM)
Hey everyone, I jz got my car... Tire dah botak dah.. Previous owner tak tukar... haizz... =_= but nevermind, cuz I got a nice offer for a set of tire+rim combo.. He is offering me Achilles ATR Sport tires. Is there something I should know about behind that nbeautiful price-tag?
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u need to give us more info like car model , tire size and rim model
how much they offer u?

tire is cheap and good enough for daily drive
google for more info about the tire

rim what model ?
used or new?


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post Feb 25 2014, 09:47 PM

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QUOTE(nestum @ Feb 25 2014, 07:41 PM)
u need to give us more info like car model , tire size and rim model
how much they offer u?

tire is cheap and good enough for daily drive
google for more info about the tire

rim what model ?
used or new?
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Car is a corolla AE101, tire size is 195/50/15. Rim using Enkei RPF1 Replica..

I didn't get the Achilles as it was outta stock so instead he recommended me a pair of Silverstone Kruizers 1. Daily driven, non track usage, no crazy driving. Abit of hi speeding, a little highway occasionally to KL and back to Melaka. Can say 95% town driving with lots of bumps.

I have to say these are some comfortable tires.. They are pretty good. I'm not expecting performance but these are wow for a comfort day to day use. I can't say anything about wet condition though as it hasn't been raining these 2 weeks..

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post Mar 7 2014, 11:40 AM

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silverstone suck as compared to archilles
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post Jun 30 2014, 12:16 PM

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QUOTE(Post-Je-Ape-Ape @ Feb 18 2014, 11:54 PM)
Hey everyone, I jz got my car... Tire dah botak dah.. Previous owner tak tukar... haizz... =_= but nevermind, cuz I got a nice offer for a set of tire+rim combo.. He is offering me Achilles ATR Sport tires. Is there something I should know about behind that nbeautiful price-tag?
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Achilles ATR Sport tires = hard compound tyre = road noise

kinda sucks at rainy day.... skyblas is right, more or less the same as silverstone. i think u should slightly top up a little bit and go for good year instead.
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post Jun 30 2014, 09:29 PM

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QUOTE(Post-Je-Ape-Ape @ Feb 25 2014, 09:47 PM)
Car is a corolla AE101, tire size is 195/50/15. Rim using Enkei RPF1 Replica..

I didn't get the Achilles as it was outta stock so instead he recommended me a pair of Silverstone Kruizers 1. Daily driven, non track usage, no crazy driving. Abit of hi speeding, a little highway occasionally to KL and back to Melaka. Can say 95% town driving with lots of bumps.

I have to say these are some comfortable tires.. They are pretty good. I'm not expecting performance but these are wow for a comfort day to day use. I can't say anything about wet condition though as it hasn't been raining these 2 weeks..
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Don't be skimppy on tires! Tires transfer power to the road and provide grip. It can make the difference between you having an acident and avoiding it so buy the best that you can afford, don't buy those cheapo stuff like Silverstone, etc. I'd rather buy used but still in good condition trusted brand of tires than those. If want rather cheap but still good enough quality, at least buy GT Radial.
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post Jun 30 2014, 10:11 PM

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QUOTE(6UE5T @ Jun 30 2014, 09:29 PM)
Don't be skimppy on tires! Tires transfer power to the road and provide grip. It can make the difference between you having an acident and avoiding it so buy the best that you can afford, don't buy those cheapo stuff like Silverstone, etc. I'd rather buy used but still in good condition trusted brand of tires than those. If want rather cheap but still good enough quality, at least buy GT Radial.
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Sooner or later down the road, I will be upgrading my tires. Perhaps Toyo Proxxes or Yokohama Parada Spec X..
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post Jun 30 2014, 10:59 PM

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QUOTE(Post-Je-Ape-Ape @ Jun 30 2014, 10:11 PM)
Sooner or later down the road, I will be upgrading my tires. Perhaps Toyo Proxxes or Yokohama Parada Spec X..
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Get the Michelin PS3 or GY F1-D5 for small diameter UHP tires.
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QUOTE(6UE5T @ Jun 30 2014, 09:29 PM)
Don't be skimppy on tires! Tires transfer power to the road and provide grip. It can make the difference between you having an acident and avoiding it so buy the best that you can afford, don't buy those cheapo stuff like Silverstone, etc. I'd rather buy used but still in good condition trusted brand of tires than those. If want rather cheap but still good enough quality, at least buy GT Radial.
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+1 on used branded tyre rather then some off brand tyre
Always afford the best tyre you can buy rather then skimping on it as that is the contact patch between road and car
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post Jul 1 2014, 09:47 PM

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QUOTE(melvyn @ Jun 30 2014, 12:16 PM)
Achilles ATR Sport tires = hard compound tyre = road noise

kinda sucks at rainy day.... skyblas is right, more or less the same as silverstone. i think u should slightly top up a little bit and go for good year instead.
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Second that, my car is running on this tyre earlier, really noisy and bad in wet, uneven wear somemore shakehead.gif . Now change to PS3, super silent if compare to ATR Sport. For 15" tyre, the price diff should be very small, better get GY or Michelin.
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QUOTE(siemenstan @ Jul 1 2014, 09:47 PM)
Second that, my car is running on this tyre earlier, really noisy and bad in wet, uneven wear somemore  shakehead.gif . Now change to PS3, super silent if compare to ATR Sport. For 15" tyre, the price diff should be very small, better get GY or Michelin.
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YA, I'm using 17" rim....it sucks big time on emergency breaking even on dry condition, and its hard to get this tyre to heat up to its optimum working temperature.
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post Jul 3 2014, 10:26 PM

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QUOTE(6UE5T @ Jun 30 2014, 09:29 PM)
Don't be skimppy on tires! Tires transfer power to the road and provide grip. It can make the difference between you having an acident and avoiding it so buy the best that you can afford, don't buy those cheapo stuff like Silverstone, etc. I'd rather buy used but still in good condition trusted brand of tires than those. If want rather cheap but still good enough quality, at least buy GT Radial.
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QUOTE(OC4/3 @ Jul 1 2014, 12:10 AM)
+1 on used branded tyre rather then some off brand tyre
Always afford the best tyre you can buy rather then skimping on it as that is the contact patch between road and car
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Reputed Brand vs. Budget Clone

Design and tread patterns of clone tyre may look similar to reputed brand.
However, in reality clone tyre perform badly especially in wet braking. Don't put your safety at risk! sweat.gif


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post Jul 3 2014, 11:04 PM

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QUOTE(Bubble Ring @ Jul 3 2014, 10:26 PM)
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Reputed Brand vs. Budget Clone

Design and tread patterns of clone tyre may look similar to reputed brand.
However, in reality clone tyre perform badly especially in wet braking. Don't put your safety at risk! sweat.gif


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achilles is not clone bro

its a budget tire for big size

and performance is better than entry level tire

with the pricing pls dont compare with the tire like ps3/f1a2/advan etc



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post Jul 10 2014, 01:58 AM

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archiles is a much better choice... next time get the ATR sport 2
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post Jul 19 2014, 05:08 PM

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ATR Sport is cheap and cheerful. Wet is okay. Dry is superb.
Friend had RM150 for 205/50/15, i had 180 for 195/60/15.
Including balancing.
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post Jul 19 2014, 05:09 PM

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QUOTE(skyblas @ Jul 10 2014, 01:58 AM)
archiles is a much better choice... next time get the ATR sport 2
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Bro, Achilles la.
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post Jul 19 2014, 08:21 PM

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my advice, dont get cheapskate with tires....Archiles tires is cheapo tire..dont need to get those very very expensive tires if u cannot afford but at least those known brand like yokohama, falken, goodyear, hankook..get the lowest entry series of those brand..

Entry level tires even for branded brand are not really very good as well but it is far more reliable to me...i've heard bad stories on Archiles n Nexun/Neuton(i can't remember)
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QUOTE(intel_centrino @ Jul 19 2014, 08:21 PM)
my advice, dont get cheapskate with tires....Archiles tires is cheapo tire..dont need to get those very very expensive tires if u cannot afford but at least those known brand like yokohama, falken, goodyear, hankook..get the lowest entry series of those brand..

Entry level tires even for branded brand are not really very good as well but it is far more reliable to me...i've heard bad stories on Archiles n Nexun/Neuton(i can't remember)
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yea agree....I've seen so much cases of tyre bloating, side wall cracking, and customer complain of noisy, and bad handling during wet weather and most of all, their average mileage for each tyre is about 30K-40K km(for heavy car, normally worn out by 25K km).

only consider these tyre IF the car is rarely use/only use for short distance due to the cheaper tyre price.

for normal/regular usage (milage about 15K km to 25K km per year), there are many cheaper yet reliable tyre brand in the market like DUNLOP, VIKING, SILVERSTONE (definitely not M3 and M5 model), yokohama, goodyear, continental and now even TOYO malaysia (NEO 3). these type of tyre normally can last average 45K km to 60K km.

for heavy user (those who travel more than 5000 km a month), from my observation on salesmen car and highway taxi, MICHELIN XM2 is the most value for money tyre in the long term. cos it can last more than 100K km compare to other brand while the price different with other reputable brand is just around 30% extra.(not forgetting the reliability of tyre).



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