yes yes yes...we are all on 1st batch!

TomatomanzSeedlezz. As long as it looks rubbery (u can actually touch the keyboard if u are planning to get one from the shop). If anything like that second pic, which u can see, it is like plastic...hard plastic. then it MIGHT be the improved batch.

None of us have faded keys yet (i guess). Only some suffers silver painting (around the keyboard) fading. mine has a slight sight of it too. I have been using this keyboard excessively for CSS, quake 4, and any other games for more than 5 months. No fading sympthoms detected, altho there's slight light leak on my F keys and some G keys i believe those are manufacturing defects (minor ones). Maybe those who encountered fading really fast, was those with acidic sweat. I wouldnt say our keys wont fade in the future tho.

But given that logitech covers warranty for paint fading issue, there's not much to worry. Cos as you can see, there's other so called gaming keyboards fade too. Exclude the tarantula as its major keys are not back-lighted, hence, no need for transparent keys. Which leads to 100% no fading (maybe fonts/words fade...hahaha...instead of the keys).

regarding the silver paint fading stuff, i wonder if i send it for RMA if it goes too heavy, or i will wrap it with CF stickers...cos it looked damn cool with it.

i would RMA here at my place locally. Cos i bought it here (kuching, sarawak). haha...i wonder if they need to send confirmation to KL.

i think i would RMA it if sitll within warranty...then if it goes of out of warranty, then i will wrap it with CF stickers. hehe...there's a guide how to take ur G15 apart in G15forums.com

touch it. does it feels like rubber? the pics can fool us because of the light reflection.

your budget range of "cheap"?

try g15. it is good and quite cheap (value for money) with those LCD and functions.

nice and honest review maDmaN. for me, just dont like the design. plus razer's weird button placement on their KBs.
btw, what's the on the fly sens for the KB? what's the function?

samhun: if u have the dough, i recommend you to get G15. you can read my small review linked on the first page of this thread. and you can refer to maDmaN's reclusa review too.


disclaimer:
I do not recommend you a product because I owned it. I read tons of other reviews before actually getting mine for the functions/built per price paid.
The final choice however, is always yours.

This post has been edited by SpikeTwo: Jul 7 2007, 12:05 PM

keyboard slider is always uncomfortable. lol...well, at least from those that i've seen. I recommend? G15. yeah, tons of complains and such. but so far, I find logitech support much better and havent heard of any major issues on the G15 other than the color thingy.

same goes for other products, they will have loads of complains. Head over to razerblueprints.net or microsoft hardware forums, you will know what i mean. hehe...

btw, list updated.

This post has been edited by SpikeTwo: Jul 12 2007, 11:45 PM

i guess either smaller or same. because G15 has a bunch of macros on the left.

i've touched the reclusa in lowyat CELgame thingy ground floor. Feels a lil cheapo plastic. hmm...din touch tarantula tho. but my friend bought one without listening to my advice ("poison" ) to get G15 instead. hehehe...

not sure bout the tarantula typing feels but reviews said it feels like typing on a notebook style/slim keyboard. i dont think you need anti ghosting in typing unless you wanna make some words holding down more than 6 keys together.


you need to enable USB keyboard & mouse thingy in your mobo bios.
use your old ps2 to enable that first, then you can use your G15 already.

not sure if the light can be configured via macro as i think light on/off/dim switch is just, well, an on/off button.
Why you need to macro that? since you already have a dedicated on/off light button.
anyways, maybe there's some G15 plugins you could find to enable that. I've even seen ppl using plugins to make the lights blinking with your music rythm. cool stuff...


yeah, i guess the new batch should have fixed the color fading problems. at least, for heavy FPS gamer like me, my WASD colors are still intact.so far, the only cons i could think of about the keyboard after using more than 8 months, is the size. but it din bother me much cos of my big-enough table. i will still suggest a G15 not because i am using one. (hey, i rephrase that quite a number of times. hehe...)

i also dun use much macros for my FPS games (i think i would need them in Hellgate:London ), but i do use them in windows. you could virtually macro most of the stuff in windows environment. i macro the keys to open applications. say, one key for notepad, one for calculator, one for winamp...blabla...all your most used appliactions in one touch! you could even macro the keys to be used for formating your work in application like MS Word (copy, paste, bold, font size...bla bla...). It's just depends on how creative you are and where you apply them.




ps: sorry for keep editing my post. Long time din check this thread. was busy working.

This post has been edited by SpikeTwo: Jul 31 2007, 01:04 AM

cool...the new G15 rocks. no more gay blue!
looks like transformers. haha...it is actually 18 macros because the 3 M buttons still there. should be more than enough.

sniper69: logitech G15 has all the clicky you want. LOL...just like those classic logitech easy keyboard with "spring" feel to it.

tarantula will be more to slim type a.k.a. notebook style which i dont like in both gaming and typing.


z350z: after one line i already give up reading. dont know wtf u typing. but at least you made a wise choice choosing G15.
[edit] plus, G15 has total of 54 macros not 45.

This post has been edited by SpikeTwo: Aug 2 2007, 09:27 PM

u send ur first batch RMA then they have to give u a new version of G15 cos old one EOL. LOL...yeah, dream that would happen.

i just found out the new G15 supports USB 2.0! eat that! razer... lol...

yeah...i also like the new G15 facelift. and it costs USD99.99 (300+?? near 400. ). same price as the new G9 mouse tho. wonder if they eliminated the paint issue all together this time.


OOT a lil: Speaking of razer, i only like their mouse. but due to the double clicking issues and QC problems, i am dissapointed. and logitech doesn't have a nice "finger" control mouse...but that will soon be changed. with the lauching of new G9 together with the new G15, logitech will have an uber finger control mouse!!! check it out in the mouse thread.

for G15 softwares and plugins, please refer to the links on the first page.
and yeah, resize your pic! even my 20" wide screen can't fit!

z305z dont be so harsh la...haha...later start a flame war.

different ppl different taste/preference. for me, I think the saitek is just too expensive. if Rm100+ ok la...the eclipse II was around RM200+ last time. for nothing but just the lights...albeit solid built, it is still too expensive.

LittleLinnet: you could try and let use know. I will "discolor" my G15 anytime.

derred: yeah. no product bashing here. only discussion on the pros and cons. backed-up with facts of course. dont be a fanboy. be a smart consumer!

gray? that's weird. it should become transparent. LOL...
can try to RMA. how long u been using ur g15?

lol...very childish remark from z350z. noob sound...i laugh my arse off.
stop the nuisance and be constructive or at least some ideas on your hardware. dont start a flame war. and btw, logitech G15 does give "tak tak" typing sound, or what you called, noob sound. I see you having G15 too. so it means? funny kid.

anyways, let's get back to our beloved gaming keyboards.
so, anyone decided which keyboards they will get? for those who wanted to get the G15, it's a good chance, because the old G15 might slash price to make way for the new one. just a specualtion, like the case of G5, the dealer price dropped around 30 or more for new magma blue G5 launch last time.

i dont wipe my G15. i only use squeeze type blower. just squeeze squeeze here and there to blow the dust off.

i seldom use G keys in FPSs. not needed kua. i might need to use them in bioshock or hellgate. you know, those RPG with tons of spells...

saitek lights can be turned off i think. esp the saitek eclipse II. was really interested in this keyboard last time. but after further read outs and compared with the likes of G15, it doesnt worth the money.

so how do u feel bout the keyboard? me and others' opinion on G15 were not that far from fact eh?

i think because the output of this keyboard is only USB 1.1 so some thumbdrive might not work or not operating in full usb 2.0 speed.