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post Feb 26 2014, 06:08 AM

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QUOTE(ron c @ Feb 26 2014, 06:02 AM)
Another record achieved by Moyes; Olympiacos' first win in the UCL knockout stages...
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This is the record achieve by man utd under the guidance of Moyes tonight

As usual, he will confidently come out to press saying we are unlucky tonight, our players will respond bla bla bla.



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Rafael mana owai... is it Fabio??? injured? why kagawa not starting,he is good at the beginning and slow at the end(2nd half sub him with Giggs). It should be Hernandez instead of Welbeck.
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QUOTE(siksa @ Feb 26 2014, 06:08 AM)
Rafael mana owai... is it Fabio??? injured? why kagawa not starting,he is good at the beginning and slow at the end(2nd half sub him with Giggs). It should be Hernandez instead of Welbeck.
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rafael injured. fabio sold.
valencia shud have been at the RB, he is clearly a better RB than smalling ever was, ever will be.

btw, not related to the match, quotes from our very own moysie:
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‘All the top players want to play for Manchester United,’ he said. ‘I can’t tell you the amount of phone calls I’ve had from top players around the world who want to play for Manchester United.’
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Even ROY KEANE joined the bandwagon to bash man utd after the defeat laugh.gif

The Republic of Ireland assistant says David Moyes will be shocked by the lack of quality in the players at his disposal, and also criticised Michael Carrick for a flat interview

Former Manchester United midfielder Roy Keane says Premier League clubs, particularly Manchester United, have fallen behind the best sides in Europe.

Keane watched United's 2-0 loss to Olympiakos in Athens on Wednesday night as a pundit on ITV, and while he also believes David Moyes will be "shocked" about a "lack of quality" in the players he is working with, he believes English clubs in general have declined.

"I think we’ve been brainwashed by the [idea that] the Premier League is the best league in the world. Nonsense," he said.

"It’s the best brand, but we’ve seen over the last few weeks with a lot of the English teams struggling that these teams have fallen behind the top teams in Europe, and United in particular."

Moyes' side failed to register a shot on target against Olympiakos, who were rarely troubled by the reigning Premier League champions.

And Keane says the United boss will privately be shocked that the team he inherited from Sir Alex Ferguson is playing so badly.
"I think David Moyes will be shocked," he added. "He went into United in the summer expecting great things, he’s probably looked at them at close quarters and I would say, privately, that he is shocked with the lack of quality that he is working with.

"It’s been a tough night for supporters and for Moyes and his staff. I don’t think anybody of us could’ve predicted that. They just never turned up. Let’s also give credit to Olympiakos, they were very, very good, they were on the front foot and technically they were better than United tonight."

Keane also criticised Michael Carrick after the midfielder gave a television interview in the wake of the defeat.
"That interview was just like their performance: flat," Keane added. "Say a bit more, have a bit more urgency even in the interview, that just reflected it, flat, no urgency, they keep saying 'Next game, next game', for some of them there won't be another game, that's the reality for him."

After Keane's co-presenter pointed out that Olympiakos fans in Keane's close proximity may have been feeling sorry for him, the Irishman replied: "The fans were probably looking at me and thinking 'What's happened to Manchester United?'"
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QUOTE(G_KeN @ Feb 26 2014, 06:10 AM)
rafael injured. fabio sold.
valencia shud have been at the RB, he is clearly a better RB than smalling ever was, ever will be.

btw, not related to the match, quotes from our very own moysie:
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Rafael and Valencia is always a good combination.

It should be Marouane Fellaini instead of Clevery because he can hold the ball at the center,i thought he is fit already.

Everyone is hoping for the same line up against Crystal Palace except Mata is replace by Kagawa.

Suddenly that line up come up.
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QUOTE(siksa @ Feb 26 2014, 06:17 AM)
Rafael and Valencia is always a good combination.

It should be Marouane Fellaini instead of Clevery because he can hold the ball at the center,i thought he is fit already.

Everyone is hoping for the same line up against Crystal Palace except Mata is replace by Kagawa.

Suddenly that line up come up.
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later moyes buttlickers will say the players need to rest lol.

give me, maybe 50 000 pounds per week and i'll give u my 200% in every matches, day in, day out. laugh.gif
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i remembered the commentator said that moyes never lost whenever he wears a red neck tie this season. laugh.gif

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guess another record broken? laugh.gif

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post Feb 26 2014, 06:26 AM

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Woke up only to watch the injury time and I am glad I did not wake up in time to watch a farce of a match.
Heard the commentator say that Moyes has got the tactics absolutely wrong and MU only had one notable chance in the whole game when Van Persie fired over.

This is where I think Moyes is not the right person for the job. Employing tactics shows the intelligence of a Manager and it is not something that can be learnt. It is a gift that Managers either have...or not, and clearly Moyes does not have it. That is why he never got anywhere with Everton.

Ferguson did not necessarily had the best team in the BPL or UCL when he won these competitions throughout the years but because he employed the correct tactics most of the time he has managed to achieve great success even with a mediocre team at times.

But when it comes to Moyes, a strong team has been reduced to a team of losers because Moyes clearly has failed in the tactical department. Like I said, being a tactical genius is a gift and that is what separates a great Manager from the mediocre ones. It is not something to be gained through experience, maybe a little and talking about experience, Moyes has almost a decade of Premier Leagues experience and has so far achieved nothing.

That is why I don't think Moyes is the right person. It is not about the losses this season. It is about his weakness in deploying tactics which I doubt will improve even with more experience.
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1 shall not play cleverley instead of fletcher..
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QUOTE(ron c @ Feb 26 2014, 06:26 AM)
Woke up only to watch the injury time and I am glad I did not wake up in time to watch a farce of a match.
Heard the commentator say that Moyes has got the tactics absolutely wrong and MU only had one notable chance in the whole game when Van Persie fired over.

This is where I think Moyes is not the right person for the job. Employing tactics shows the intelligence of a Manager and it is not something that can be learnt. It is a gift that Managers either have...or not, and clearly Moyes does not have it. That is why he never got anywhere with Everton.

Ferguson did not necessarily had the best team in the BPL or UCL when he won these competitions throughout the years but because he employed the correct tactics most of the time he has managed to achieve great success even with a mediocre team at times.

But when it comes to Moyes, a strong team has been reduced to a team of losers because Moyes clearly has failed in the tactical department. Like I said, being a tactical genius is a gift and that is what separates a great Manager from the mediocre ones. It is not something to be gained through experience, maybe a little and talking about experience, Moyes has almost a decade of Premier Leagues experience and has so far achieved nothing.

That is why I don't think Moyes is the right person. It is not about the losses this season. It is about his weakness in deploying tactics which I doubt will improve even with more experience.
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well regardless of your well written post,

the usual moyes bootlickers wont give a damn. lol.
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QUOTE(tommyfai @ Feb 26 2014, 06:30 AM)
1 shall not play cleverley instead of fletcher..
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moyes has kagawa, fletcher, and fellaini to play the CM role.

he ended up with cleverly.

kagawa subbed in as a fukken winger.

i think cleverly plays like zidane or patrick viera during the training, thats why moysie chose him laugh.gif
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QUOTE(G_KeN @ Feb 26 2014, 06:30 AM)
well regardless of your well written post,

the usual moyes bootlickers wont give a damn. lol.
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Doesn't matter. This is my opinion and everyone is entitled to theirs wink.gif Cheers!
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post Feb 26 2014, 06:50 AM

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It's heart breaking to see every damn record is being broken....sighhh....
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If lose but we put up a fight and play beatiful ok la, but this, dah la kalah, main serupa haram, passing ke laut, pemalas, lembab, lembik asyik jatuh je, xde creativity. This is UCL, bukan liga malaysia
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IMO even Harimau Malaya can beat dis united.
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really dont get the game plan, lacking urgency and attacking instict....i got worried when i saw cleverley & young started shakehead.gif , the game was so boring, carrick was not on form, but cant blame him, no one else stood up, i'm looking at cleverley....man utd were the passenger of the game....dont know how moyes can still trust cleverley, valencia & young .....haih
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Aiya! Got easy draw also lose ka? What happen if got Barca or Bayern? Sure thrashed one. LoL..
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post Feb 26 2014, 07:32 AM

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Every time we lost, some said give him some time, we are in transition period this and that, ok, at first I thought the same but my prediction will be at least top 4 finish and UCL quarter final when start of the season but things go from bad to worst! I don't think 6 or 7 is good achievement for Moyes. He f***up the whole damn team!!!!

Sack him will cost a lot cuz of his long contract, but I don't damn care, is sacking him cost a lot more important than loosing out TV rights and gates for UCL?



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