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TScahmad
post Feb 8 2014, 11:58 AM, updated 12y ago

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Hi all, May I asked here, I wanna some suggestion/opinion from you all about should I accept the offer to work at Huawei or not.

I have been through the interview directly from Huawei 2 times, everything fine. However, after verbally(via phone talk) I agree to accept the offer, then Huawei pass me to agent. This agent told me that I am not workin with their company, I am working for Huawei, this agent act as a payroll only. So my agreement is with agent to work with Huawei. Huawei agree to buyout me, and they add some term in the contract. I have no problem with that.

I have been offered for 1 year renewable contract. Better salary then what I get now. My scope of job is to develop a system for them, what can I say is that more on development applications and not on Networking or devices (which is the core of Huawei business).

I ask them I want a long term career, not a short term. They said that this contract is renewable. I just want to know anyone here experience this situation, is really Huawei will going to renew my contract after 1 year? I just want to make sure that my contract is renew. and I agree with Huawei can terminate my contract if mt performance is not meet their expectation, this is fine to me.

What I worry is, is Huawei will really continue my contact after 1 year.

Because currently I am permanent with my current company.

Any opinions/suggestions please.

Thanks in advance.
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post Feb 8 2014, 12:36 PM

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No one can tell if Huawei will continue your contract after 1 year. But in general, if you do a good job, they will. In fact, they might even offer you a permanent position. There's always a risk with non-permanent contracts. It is up to you to evaluate the risk vs. rewards.
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post Feb 8 2014, 01:03 PM

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QUOTE(Hollow21 @ Feb 8 2014, 12:36 PM)
No one can tell if Huawei will continue your contract after 1 year.  But in general, if you do a good job, they will.  In fact, they might even offer you a permanent position.  There's always a risk with non-permanent contracts.  It is up to you to evaluate the risk vs. rewards.
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Since I am doing a project in which it is not inline with the core of the Huawei business(Networking, DataComm, Telecommunication Devices, Antennas, etc..), Thus, I am afraid about that if the project is completed, the future, the rest of it?

At the end I must took a deep consideration in this... Highly possibility, I am going to accept this offer because of the better pay and other benefits.

When comes to $$$.... ahhhhhhh It seems I cant think anymore...
Six Miles
post Feb 8 2014, 04:08 PM

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One of the biggest problem with being a contract staff with Huawei. No bonus payout, whereas Huawei is well known for its generous bonuses. If you can live with seeing your colleagues getting lucrative bonuses come bonus time while you get nothing, then go for it by all means.
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post Feb 8 2014, 04:55 PM

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QUOTE(Six Miles @ Feb 8 2014, 04:08 PM)
One of the biggest problem with being a contract staff with Huawei. No bonus payout, whereas Huawei is well known for its generous bonuses. If you can live with seeing your colleagues getting lucrative bonuses come bonus time while you get nothing, then go for it by all means.
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Urmmm... Ok, Is it possible for Huawei absorb as permanent staff after 1 year if performance hit the target. Anyone experience been a contract for 1 year and then absorb as permanent?
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post Feb 8 2014, 05:06 PM

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QUOTE(cahmad @ Feb 8 2014, 04:55 PM)
Urmmm... Ok, Is it possible for Huawei absorb as permanent staff after 1 year if performance hit the target. Anyone experience been a contract for 1 year and then absorb as permanent?
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Depends on your performance and department headcount availability. I guess the reason you're been outsourced is either because of headcount issues or you're a fresh grad. I once joined Huawei under contract terms and offered to be converted after my tenure ends, but I chose to join other company with better offer. So I guess one of the benefits of being a lease staff is the flexibility to look around nearing the end of the contract.
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post Feb 8 2014, 06:38 PM

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QUOTE(Six Miles @ Feb 8 2014, 05:06 PM)
Depends on your performance and department headcount availability. I guess the reason you're been outsourced is either because of headcount issues or you're a fresh grad. I once joined Huawei under contract terms and offered to be converted after my tenure ends, but I chose to join other company with better offer. So I guess one of the benefits of being a lease staff is the flexibility to look around nearing the end of the contract.
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So you joined Huawei under contract right? May I know how is it the contract "Direct" under Huawei or you are under "Agent" work for Huawei. In my case, I was contract under "Agent", because agent act as my payroll, worked for Huawei. Huawei pay my salary through the "Agent" and then "Agent" deposit my salary to me. It is not directly Huawei pay to me... So the "Agent" is like proxy here. The agent is another company here. I research the company, the company is not recruiter company. The company provide support in networking devices for Huawei.

Sorry if I am wrong, it is quite suspicious when you say
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to join other company with better offer
. It is because, as far as I know, Huawei is the big player company in communication field, and its salary comparatively is higher than other company in Malaysia. I was advised by my friends, told me that Huawei offered me is high enough, the only can beat is MNCs company like Microsoft, Google, Cisco, IBM, Dell, etc... Maybe you get other MNCs company...

And in my case also, I am not a fresh grad.
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post Feb 9 2014, 04:09 PM

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TS cahmad & Six Miles, in both of your cases this is called "outsourced staffs".

Six Miles information is misleading. Huawei has 3 types of people working inside,
1. Permanent
2. Contract
3. Outsource

Basically permanent and contract staffs works directly under Huawei, and they get the same benefits such as bonus, claims, travel allowances, medical benefits, AL benefits, increment, etc. Even the staff ID format for both permanent and contract are the same. Some of the contract staffs get even better bonus than the permanent staffs! The only difference is, permanent, as the name it is, is permanent. Contract staffs will need to renew their contract every 1 or 2 years. Usually the contracts will be renewed. So far no news on people being discontinued unless disciplinary problem or under performed.

Outsourced staffs, this is a totally different story. Your employment is not under Huawei, you get the benefits as agreed by the agent, and you don't enjoy those benefits that usual Huawei staffs are having. You can also see that your staff ID is different from others who are permanent/contract.

If I'm not mistaken, Huawei Malaysia no longer hires permanent. New staffs are all under contract of Huawei. However don't worry, the benefits are still there.
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post Feb 9 2014, 08:43 PM

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QUOTE(OhNooy @ Feb 9 2014, 04:09 PM)
TS cahmad & Six Miles, in both of your cases this is called "outsourced staffs".

Six Miles information is misleading. Huawei has 3 types of people working inside,
1. Permanent
2. Contract
3. Outsource

Basically permanent and contract staffs works directly under Huawei, and they get the same benefits such as bonus, claims, travel allowances, medical benefits, AL benefits, increment, etc. Even the staff ID format for both permanent and contract are the same. Some of the contract staffs get even better bonus than the permanent staffs! The only difference is, permanent, as the name it is, is permanent. Contract staffs will need to renew their contract every 1 or 2 years. Usually the contracts will be renewed. So far no news on people being discontinued unless disciplinary problem or under performed.

Outsourced staffs, this is a totally different story. Your employment is not under Huawei, you get the benefits as agreed by the agent, and you don't enjoy those benefits that usual Huawei staffs are having. You can also see that your staff ID is different from others who are permanent/contract.

If I'm not mistaken, Huawei Malaysia no longer hires permanent. New staffs are all under contract of Huawei. However don't worry, the benefits are still there.
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Well, what I'm referring to is the outsourced staffs, in which the case of TS, as he said his contract is under an external "agent".
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post Feb 10 2014, 01:30 PM

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@cahmad If u're a fresh grad and being offered the outsource contract, then you dont have much bargain power to gain Huawei contract.
Usually Huawei new hire will be usually outsource contract unless u're very good and they're desperate to hire you.
Usually non-technical will stand a higher chance for Huawei contract than engineers.
Engineers are usually projects based.

As mentioned by @OhNooy, usually they'll renew the contract unless your direct supervisor does not request for it.

Good luck.

This post has been edited by Huai Ren: Feb 10 2014, 01:31 PM
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post Feb 10 2014, 05:24 PM

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Usually outsource staff will be always outsource. Consider the contract staff, which your offer letter is by Huawei not agent. Then you will have better benefits inside.
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post Feb 11 2014, 11:54 PM

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Ok, thank you very much for all information. Thank you very much guys... you all great... i will look at the agreement.. i am still under negotiation with them. I will ask them what my status is either contract or outsource... well it look like my status is outsource... if i am take this, after 1 year can i nego to move from outsource to contract?
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post Feb 12 2014, 09:03 AM

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QUOTE(cahmad @ Feb 11 2014, 11:54 PM)
Ok, thank you very much for all information. Thank you very much guys... you all great... i will look at the agreement.. i am still under negotiation with them. I will ask them what my status is either contract or outsource... well it look like my status is outsource... if i am take this, after 1 year can i nego to move from outsource to contract?
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It won't be easy, but there is possibility. Good luck!
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post Feb 21 2014, 03:15 PM

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QUOTE(cahmad @ Feb 11 2014, 11:54 PM)
Ok, thank you very much for all information. Thank you very much guys... you all great... i will look at the agreement.. i am still under negotiation with them. I will ask them what my status is either contract or outsource... well it look like my status is outsource... if i am take this, after 1 year can i nego to move from outsource to contract?
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depends on head count of your department...

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post Feb 21 2014, 11:39 PM

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if you are outsource from agent, very hard to get absorb in to direct hire from huawei. friends of mine who are outsources staff have been working for 4-5 years still stuck being outsource. eventhough he's very important guy in the project.
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post Apr 26 2014, 03:33 PM

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If I am passed to an external agency that processes my offer, but needs approval from Huawei Bosses before they can prepare the offer letter, will I be an outsource staff or a contract staff?
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post Apr 27 2014, 01:14 AM

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QUOTE(jrrsim @ Apr 26 2014, 03:33 PM)
If I am passed to an external agency that processes my offer, but needs approval from Huawei Bosses before they can prepare the offer letter, will I be an outsource staff or a contract staff?
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Is your contract include 13th month salary? If yes then you're under contract and vice versa.
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QUOTE(d7adict @ Apr 27 2014, 01:14 AM)
Is your contract include 13th month salary? If yes then you're under contract and vice versa.
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Thanks d7adict. I haven't seen the contract yet.

Why does Huawei make it so complicated? I will check if there is a 13th month bonus.

Do you know the difference between the 2?

 

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