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 Advice on changing career choice resume., Any guidance is appreciated thanks.

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post Feb 2 2014, 11:32 PM

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QUOTE(brightjoey @ Feb 2 2014, 10:54 PM)
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brightjoey,

Aha!!

A mechatronic graduate that is NOT AS GOOD as Electrical Engineering graduate want to join electronic industry.

WHY should they hire YOU when you know much less that a TYPICAL EE graduate in term of Electronic?? WHAT do you KNOW about Electronic industry to begin with??

YOU need to answer those questions in your resume.

As I had told people again and again, Mechatronic is a LOUSY DEGREE.

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post Feb 2 2014, 11:41 PM

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QUOTE(brightjoey @ Feb 2 2014, 11:33 PM)
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brightjoey,

<<But never liked it since it encourages people to post a wall of text with little formatting.>>

1) YOU are looking for job. Altera and Intel is doing the hiring. What you like or dislike is IRRELEVANT to THEM. So, get YOUR MENTALITY set correctly first. A beggar cannot be chooser.

2) Your CGPA is horrible. You have NO WORKING EXPERIENCE in Electronic industry. So, unless and until you can CONVINCE people that you have RELEVANT EDUCATION / SKILL / CAPABILITY to the electronic industry, you have NO CHANCE.

<< The "Solves >10 process abnormality...." Now that one is something that bounds to happens because of the poor condition of the plant, we have some idea on fixing it but the cost too damn high that the COO wouldn't approve the budget. So I had to "solve" it (taking short-cuts) when easily if we improve the plant condition it wouldn't be a problem. As for how many % honestly that % is going to be the same until the budget is approved.>>

3) What had you DONE that is USEFUL and RELEVANT to electronic industry?? If you DO NOT KNOW, you had not done enough research to earn you an interview.

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post Feb 2 2014, 11:46 PM

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QUOTE(brightjoey @ Feb 2 2014, 11:41 PM)
Ouch! you show no mercy :'(

Ideally I wish I done a different FYP project as it seriously made me a handicap in the real world (too ambitious, wanting to show off etc etc.), Now what's done is done and I need to get doing SOMETHING!

I've taken up MOOC + courseera to cover my weakness, but it's still isn't enough. I know I have no right to ask alot, but If I can get a sliver of chance, I know it's something I can prove myself on.

+ many of my colleagues says how hardworking + useful I am, ( hope they're not stroking my ego), so I think I have what it takes.
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brightjoey,

You THINK that I am harsh?? Those are the questions that you will face if and when you have an interview. Be prepared to answer those questions.

<<+ many of my colleagues says how hardworking + useful I am, >>

As compare to WHO?? And, unless they are working or know somebody in electronic industry, it is USELESS to YOU.

PROVE IT in YOUR RESUME. If you cannot show it in YOUR RESUME, it does not exist.

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post Feb 3 2014, 12:27 AM

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QUOTE(brightjoey @ Feb 3 2014, 12:15 AM)
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brightjoey,

1) You KNOW NOTHING about Electronic industry. Now, if you KNOW NOTHING, how could you tell what you DO NOW is RELEVANT or IRRELEVANT to electronic industry??

<< 3) That experience had little-til-nil relevance in and electronic industry, but if i could first get into that company by being in production first, then later changing departments.>>

2) How do you KNOW THIS when you KNOW NOTHING??

<<I do know 5S, kaizen, poka yoke concept, and my plant practice it too. Thanks I will add on that.>>

3) Case in point. We had just proven something in your current job that is RELEVANT to electronic industry.

<< I have noone else that I know in the company who can help refine these skills. >>

4) Why do you need this when you have THE INTERNET and some of courses are in YOUTUBE?? STOP giving excuses...

<< Maybe if I switch departments I can get the relevant people, but isn't switching to the relevant industry better and also has better opportunities?>>

5) Why would somebody give you a chance to begin with if you DO NOT DEMONSTRATE that you are MOTIVATED to learn in the first place??

Real knowledge is to know the extent of one's ignorance.
- Confucius
Read more at http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/topics/t...eLYvkLPYLUyF.99

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post Feb 4 2014, 02:13 AM

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QUOTE(brightjoey @ Feb 4 2014, 01:58 AM)
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brightjoey,

<< If include OT it should be 1.5-2.5hr. Which means I would have worked 10hr+ everyday, unless very rare I have things to do at home I ask to be released early.>>

WHY do you do this??

WHY are you working SO HARD to make sure that you LEARN NOTHING and have NO FUTURE??

Why YOU do not make sure that you have TIME to learn something at work??

<< I thinking joining the relevant industry can improve on this.>>

No, IT will not happen unless and until YOU change YOUR MENTALITY. It is UP to YOU to make sure that YOU learn something NEW at work. If YOU do not protect YOURSELF, YOU will be doing THE SAME THING for the next 5 to 10 years.

If YOU do not MAKE TIME to learn stuff at work, EVERYONE else will schedule YOUR TIME fully until you have NO TIME left.

If YOU do not have at least 10% to 30% free time at WORK to learn something new, you have NO FUTURE. Now, if things do not get done, it is NOT YOUR PROBLEM. They need to hire more people.

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P.S.: Do you know how to say NO??

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post Feb 4 2014, 10:42 PM

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QUOTE(brightjoey @ Feb 4 2014, 10:31 PM)


I really like the programming part, but usually because of failures or codes doesn't work, I give up too fast. Now I'm determined to get it right, so it's definitely not a "out of nowhere" idea, thought in the future I want to in-cooperate hardwares or devices, and not just a person who does only program.

Btw, thanks for sharing your experience, and no, noone who is willing to share their opinions/thoughts are "harsh" on me.
Thanks. I wanna work with brilliant programmers and learn about it. Granted am not the ace now, but one day I want it to be better than most.
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brightjoey,

<<I really like the programming part, but usually because of failures or codes doesn't work, I give up too fast. >>

Then, programing is NOT for YOU. You should do something else.

<<I wanna work with brilliant programmers and learn about it. >>

You can't. Good programmer LOVE programing. They like the challenge and difficulty.

One of the most important thing is career planning is to find out what you LOVE. As far as we can tell, PROGRAMING is not the right one for you. But, it is not bad. You just have to find something else.

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post Feb 4 2014, 11:26 PM

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QUOTE(quovadis123 @ Feb 4 2014, 11:02 PM)
I would like to hear from you since you're in this field for very long.
How do you tell a person love programming apart from those don't love?
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quovadis123,

People that LOVE programing get EXCITED and MOTIVATED when they face a difficult programing problem. In fact, they continuously SEEK OUT tough problem.

I do programing to solve problem. I do not love programing. Hence, I can do programing but I will NEVER be good at it.

I LOVE networking. I read thousands of books on networking. I seek out TOUGH networking problem. I get MOTIVATED by tough networking problem.

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P.S.: It is VERY SIMPLE.

People that LOVE programing will do a lot of programing outside of their coursework just for the FUN of it.

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post Feb 6 2014, 03:16 AM

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QUOTE(brightjoey @ Feb 6 2014, 12:00 AM)
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brightjoey,

<< I agree I don't intend to be a programmer as a final career choice. But I do like programming, otherwise I wouldn't have went through so much pain in learning and spending countless hours in the lab just working on programming.>>

No, you do not like programing. STOP LYING to yourself. You only do it because you need to pass your course. For example, I LEARN 8 programing languages through self study INDEPENDENT of any of my course work.

I studied 167% (20 semester hours) of full time student course load. I worked 40 hours per week. But, I still spend another 20 hours per week learning programing and computer stuff because I LOVE IT. I slept on the average of 4 hours per day for 6 years in order to do all those things. it was so much FUN!!!

<<But hey I hope you're wrong and I'm right. I can't tell but the future will.>>

If you LOVE something, you do it for FREE just for the FUN for it.

<< I love shooting films and writing storyboards. I still do. I daydream about it sometimes when I see a particular event or a funny situation where I wish I have a camera right there and then. >>

What is there to STOP you for doing your own short film publish it via YOUTUBE??

<<But filmmaking doesn't put food on the table >>

So what?? You have ENOUGH FOOD on the table NOW. What is there stopping you for doing this in YOUR FREE TIME?? I forgot!! You DARE NOT say no so you have NO FREE TIME.

I have 500K lines of code in dBASE. I know 8 different programing languages. And, I still do not consider myself as LIKING programing.

STOP GIVING EXCUSES!!! Life is too short!! Do not live in regret later when you are old as to what you could had done NOW.

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post Feb 9 2014, 04:55 AM

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QUOTE(brightjoey @ Feb 9 2014, 03:46 AM)
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You tell me your life story in how you painstakingly spend hours in your free time learning, I can assume a large portion of the time is also programming, but still you confess you DISLIKE programming, but you STILL learn and practice programming. You still ACKNOWLEDGE the power of programming. In light of that, isn't working in a programming environment a ideal place to cultivate the skill?
For now, I don't have a final career choice. But I hoped in dealing with the different industries and enrolling myself into a Masters or PhD might make it clearer in what I planned to span my entire life on.

I really enjoy chemical engineering research, so I might try to go there. At this point, the future looks misty.
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brightjoey,

<<You tell me your life story in how you painstakingly spend hours in your free time learning, I can assume a large portion of the time is also programming, but still you confess you DISLIKE programming, but you STILL learn and practice programming.>>

Yes, but I did not continue doing it because it BORES me. I learn enough to solve any problem at hand.


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In light of that, isn't working in a programming environment a ideal place to cultivate the skill?

But I hoped in dealing with the different industries and enrolling myself into a Masters or PhD might make it clearer in what I planned to span my entire life on.

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You do not get IT!!

You HOPE someone or some environment or some job will FORCE you into learning something. WHY?? If you are MOTIVATED , you will find TIME and ENERGY to get it done without any EXTERNAL FORCE. Now, if you are NOT MOTIVATED, those EXTERNAL FORCE will not help either.

<<enrolling myself into a Masters or PhD >>

This is CLEARLY a bunch of BS. ALL MIT, Princeton, Harvard university class lectures are FREE and AVAILABLE online. ANYONE with Internet access can learn from those lectures NOW. WHY are YOU not doing it now?? If you CHOOSE to DO NOTHING now, how does enrolling in any classes matter??

Those with will and determination will find a way. Others will find thousands of excuses.

Wake up!! Look at yourself in the mirror. What do you WANT out of your life?? Are you willing to put in THE EFFORT to get there??

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post Feb 14 2014, 01:10 AM

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QUOTE(brightjoey @ Feb 14 2014, 12:59 AM)
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If you're saying  I'm heading down the wrong path, what is your recommendation I should do? If possible kindly be specific, and not too much open ended questions.
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brightjoey,

STOP LYING to yourself!!

1) Ask what do you REALLY WANT TO BE in 5 years??

2) What are you willing to DO NOW to get there??

At this moment, you just want to get out of your current job but you DID NOT ASK what you want to be.

<<If possible kindly be specific,>.

How can WE be SPECIFIC when you keep on LYING on what you really want??

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post Feb 16 2014, 01:27 AM

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QUOTE(brightjoey @ Feb 16 2014, 12:12 AM)
I like to see myself working in engineering, I really do, but maybe not as a programmer, but maybe more of a technical R&D in electronics.
The main thing is to get a job that I love spending time with, and it involves going through different industry and finding out what I love and passionate about.

I love video making as mention in 1 of my previous post, but I also love engineering technology, and solving problems dealing with R&D.

Thanks for making me realized that programming is a tool, indeed I want programming as a tool, but not as a life long career path.
In 5 years, I see myself being a leading professional in designing machinery. What machinery I haven the faintest idea, but my long term passions has always been to advance the technology of civilization, and to work towards building the next-gen machines.
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brightjoey,

<<I like to see myself working in engineering, >>

Why??

<< The main thing is to get a job that I love spending time with, and it involves going through different industry and finding out what I love and passionate about. >>

That is a long and wasteful way to find out... It will be wrong anyhow.

It is VERY SIMPLE.

What are you doing with YOUR FREE TIME now?? What are the stuff that you GLADLY do that without getting pay for??

If you have to get pay (a job) to DO SOMETHING, you do not love and passionate on that thing.

<<In 5 years, I see myself being a leading professional in designing machinery. >>

Why and what is there to stop you now??

http://3d.about.com/od/3d-Electronics/tp/L...eady-To-Use.htm

You can buy a 3D printer for less than USD $1,000. And, they are dropping to less than USD $500.

You can manufacture almost anything now at home. What is there to stop you??

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post Feb 18 2014, 01:49 AM

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QUOTE(brightjoey @ Feb 18 2014, 12:32 AM)
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Okay, I am extremely torn in my passion. I love alot of things. I love making videos, (though I haven't created one cause i'm busy, and without the right equipment) I love learning languages ( I learn Japanese & German juz because it's really fun), I love making machines work ( I want to build a functional robot and feel satisfy seeing it work), So how am I suppose to know what should I do?
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brightjoey,

<<I love making videos, (though I haven't created one cause i'm busy, and without the right equipment) >>

No, you don't.. Or, you do not love enough. Or else, you will find TIME to make it happen instead of excuses... I loved programing. I could not afford a computer. My first program was written with Casio FX3600p programmable calculator.

You worked for FREE (18 hours) on your dead end job instead of doing something that you CLAIMED that you LOVE??

Stop lying to yourself. If you TRULY love something, you find TIME to make it happen... Stop making excuses. Or else, you will REGRET in future as to what you could had done with your life.

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