5 years since 2008. next 3 years superboom after adjustment:-)? Then crisis again at 2018....
Is the bubble finally bursting? 2014, V2
Is the bubble finally bursting? 2014, V2
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Jan 17 2014, 10:08 AM
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5 years since 2008. next 3 years superboom after adjustment:-)? Then crisis again at 2018....
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Jan 17 2014, 11:33 AM
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Global super boom coming
After this boom ddd will get what they want. This post has been edited by kohts: Jan 17 2014, 11:34 AM |
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Jan 17 2014, 01:13 PM
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Global super boom coming yo
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Jan 19 2014, 03:22 PM
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Global Economic Boom come liao....
The world economy, by contrast, will grow at a 2.7% rate this year, before accelerating to a 3.6% rate in 2014 and 3.9% in 2015. |
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Jan 19 2014, 03:28 PM
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January 14, 2014 – Five years after the global financial crisis, the world economy is showing signs of bouncing back this year, pulled along by a recovery in high-income economies, says the World Bank’s latest Global Economic Prospects report, issued today.
Developing-country growth is also firming, thanks in part to the recovery in high-income economies as well as moderating, but still strong, growth in China. Growth prospects for 2014 are, however, sensitive to the tapering of monetary stimulus in the United States, which began earlier this month, and to the structural shifts taking place in China’s economy. The report forecasts growth in developing countries to pick up from 4.8 percent in 2013 to a slower than previously expected 5.3 percent this year, 5.5 percent in 2015 and 5.7 percent in 2016. While the pace is about 2.2 percentage points lower than during the boom period of 2003-07, the slower growth is not a cause for concern. Almost all of the difference reflects a cooling off of the unsustainable turbo-charged pre-crisis growth, with very little due to an easing of growth potential in developing countries. Moreover, even this slower growth represents a substantial (60 percent) improvement compared with growth in the 1980s and early 1990s. Global GDP is projected to grow from 2.4 percent in 2013 to 3.2 percent this year, stabilizing at 3.4 percent and 3.5 percent in 2015 and 2016, respectively, with much of the initial acceleration reflecting a pick-up in high-income economies |
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Jan 19 2014, 03:32 PM
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2014-2016 might be the last boat for investment, when we meet in next economic crisis... else wait for 6-9 years more. (2-3 years economic boom + 2-3 year economic crisis + 2-3 year cooling)
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Jan 24 2014, 05:07 PM
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When dibs n no rgpt, complain bubble will burst n recession if no action taken. When action taken still want bubble burst and recession. Then what can be done to avoid bubble burst? sound like sour grapes
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Jan 27 2014, 06:44 PM
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Survey conducted by sin chew today indicates top prefer investment prefer in 2014 is property. In fact cash value rm has drop much against foreign currency and trend seems continue. Inflation sure to rise further reducing cash value and other type of investment need to be monitor closely, with global economy warming up.
Keeping cash strategy is it a good move.......mmmmmmmm? |
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Jan 27 2014, 06:59 PM
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QUOTE(twincharger07 @ Jan 27 2014, 06:46 PM) Have try this before but preciously admin charge n expensive exchange rate set a disadvantage unecessary. Now i try placing into funds with exposure in the develop countries. I dont felt confident in waiting for price drop nor up as both ways have clear disadvantage |
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Jan 27 2014, 07:21 PM
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QUOTE(twincharger07 @ Jan 27 2014, 07:11 PM) in general for spore, 5k sgd minimum.. fell below that will impose 2sgd fee monthly.. Unless you fly to singapore n withdraw cash and then go to exchanger, direct tt cash to myr account us expensive aside the low interest. Else airticket and time is a cost alsothe drawback is interest rate only 0.xx.. |
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Jan 29 2014, 06:48 PM
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No increase in interest rate. My cash n fd continue to loose more to inflation n exchange rate.....want to convert it to equities or property people say high risk. Got fxxked standing straight.
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Jan 29 2014, 06:55 PM
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In fact my rough calculation , my cash and equities is better off without rpgt and with dibs. Now with rgpt and the cooling measures the loser up till now is cash and equities since oct 2013
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Jan 29 2014, 10:40 PM
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QUOTE(HuiChyr @ Jan 29 2014, 06:56 PM) Yup, interest rate is the one that pricks the bubble. Even with rate increase, having doubt that will cause prop to drop much than rm value in good areas to buy... Since no increase ....BBB campers can release a sigh of relieve ..... or not ? Check out this thread: https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopi...entry66098332 Holding cash in ways is scarier.... |
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Feb 6 2014, 08:12 PM
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Walao, after back cny so many replies. Uuu is not selling to bbb here, but it seems nego here is more geng than real transaction. Dont buy dont sell nvm.
But i think its seri, 和, equal as price will stagnant and sales for subsales for property more than five years will be interesting due to no rgpt and lower price than new launxh. |
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Feb 6 2014, 11:11 PM
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High possibility income per capita will continue to rise due to inflation and government policy to reach develop nation.
While waiting for income to rise, new property price and possible interest rate increment and government policy will cause limited new property launch at stagnant or small increase price. In the meantime interesting transaction will be on property more than 5 years with price lower than new launch, and newly vp property release to market in lower profit and some desperate seller to cover cost. Thats my guess n i dont really see a big drop of prop price in near future with upcoming gst n global improving economic situation This post has been edited by kohts: Feb 6 2014, 11:15 PM |
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Feb 6 2014, 11:48 PM
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QUOTE(bearbearwong @ Feb 6 2014, 11:24 PM) It will be sold but vacant.. u want to hold?.. or u want to tell me it will boost up agaib? Like initial boost 450k to 750k.. hold and boost to 1 million? Sorry, your intention is very clear from your trolling posting which is to shoot down whoever not agree that property collapse is imminient and should sell of their property now. Thus my posting is just to provide other perspective and this is my only and last reply to you in order not to encourage you to proof your cxxk is bigger.Propert getting aged and affirdability left upper middle class only.. This post has been edited by kohts: Feb 6 2014, 11:51 PM |
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Feb 7 2014, 09:26 AM
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QUOTE(gspirit01 @ Feb 7 2014, 09:07 AM) The benefits that you mentioned many people are getting, make me feel my friends, relatives, customers, staff are all being treated unfairly! Are you sure many are getting these ? In many companies that I work with, only top managements are getting these. These companies include mnc in o&g. Bosses operational cost involvess your salary. In maximizing profit for shareholders and owners, it is to lower operational cost and be more efficient.However in avoiding the risk of impacting the business, standard operational employees which require less innovation n following sop need to be managed and one of the way is to allow the employee to belief that they are getting similar renumeration than others, and in such will create general satisfaction. Such employees do not have much risk getting to ask to leave and thus less risk less gain However the key talent is for the people which really add value to the organization and fully aware of its position and negotation power which will stand out from the rest. They are ready accept challenges and responsibilities and ready to bear the consequences if they fail. In such they will rightfully request justifiable renumeration which is of course much much better than general. Generally most of our friend and relatives is from general group as they felt more comfortable, nothing wrong with it. However the few which has the hunger for success can be valuable friends and contacts. This post has been edited by kohts: Feb 7 2014, 09:28 AM |
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Feb 7 2014, 02:42 PM
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Its not as direct and simple but i just summarize it. As known personal income reported to epf correlates to the level of tax bracket. The higher income the higher the % of tax.
There is legal option such as company setup n others way to reduce the income reported thus tax to be paid which might be more difficult after gst is here. IN business, income after expenses and depreciation will be tax, well in personal, income before expense n depreciation will be tax. How many SME n such companies in malaysia.. hehe go find out. |
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Feb 8 2014, 11:21 AM
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QUOTE(icemanfx @ Feb 8 2014, 10:29 AM) ![]() Remind me of gold hoarders/investors argument that gold price has been on upward trend for over 7 years and will continue to breach $2,000/oz in 2012, etc, etc, etc. Believe even those who hoard gold before the beginning of bull run in 2008 and invested more along the way are under water at current price. Given enthusiasm level in the current property frenzy is similar to gold during the last bull run, it won't be a surprise the price drop will follow gold in proportion. Nothing goes up in straight line forever else there won't be less than 8% of adults have net worth over US$100k. Nontheless, gold is commodity and not comparable to property which depends on location and etc. This post has been edited by kohts: Feb 8 2014, 11:24 AM |
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Feb 8 2014, 02:41 PM
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In a way, the point is valid if the presume low income will not justify property price, when such is treated as necessities for the common general.
However investment seems to be a different animal. Stock rise to historical high pe level, gold rise to high level without much use to a common man aside glitering effect. Artpiece, watches, antiques and land etc. It dont depends on general income. Thus if property is treated as invesment, purely using presume low income and unjustifiable loan by bank even if it is true is not the only factor. Thus perhaps in my humble opinion, global has been low for 5 years n next few years, good growth is estimated by many. Additionally gov has make it very clear subsidy will further be reduced, gst introduce an global inflation expected. Moreover goverments in pressure currently prefer printing money strategy. Yes property price drop, but my take is not now. Using the gold graph, do i want to exit prop at 2008 and wait for it to peak at 2013 and pray it drop n collapse everday since 2008. Also If I exit, is the cash less risky or should i use to cash to put in other risker investment? At the moment i will mantain status quo, with sufficient cash and balance investment in prop, blue chips and etc.a This post has been edited by kohts: Feb 8 2014, 02:50 PM |
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