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post Feb 20 2014, 09:55 PM

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QUOTE(keown83 @ Feb 20 2014, 09:52 PM)
hishamudin: i'll do whatever it takes to re-capitalise ATM services

result;

- add 20 ec725 basic SAR version to cover Nuri services, jeeeeerrrr
problem?
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If he can add 20 ec725.
I happy edi.
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post Feb 20 2014, 10:28 PM

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QUOTE(lulz @ Feb 20 2014, 10:18 PM)
Who got twitter?go give him something to work on, i know maf got this, but why not show some enthusiasm from the public. I dont want to be first though. hehehe
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Hmm, might give it try. hmm.gif
Perhaps mymil should create it official twitter to give suggestion.
atreyuangel like or no like?
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post Feb 20 2014, 10:55 PM

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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Feb 20 2014, 10:47 PM)
hmm, a good idea,
but I am not into twitter, I'll ask ven or other mod
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Nice.
It could also be a good marketing for mymil. biggrin.gif
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post Feb 21 2014, 10:34 AM

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QUOTE(thpace @ Feb 21 2014, 04:00 AM)
i like tracked because it offer some better protection to the crews in case of any shell fragmentation and overall small arms protection
wheeled well, u gain mobility and flexibility but reduced protection laugh.gif  Sory boys, for me wheeled look like a lory hantu with guns welded on the back tongue.gif

I think evaluations completed since it was like ages ago when they tested those vehicles but dunno which one army will choose.
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Depend on strategy use.
from my point of view wheeled best suited for fast hit and run, ambush enemy front lines.
Best use in behind the defensive lines as risk exposure being attack is at lowest.
so there is no point to have heavy armor for protection.
I like archer sph the most.
as for tracked it would be good at offensive operations in fire support.
Heavier armor will help to survives from enemy ambush in enemy territories.

if I have to choose I would go for archer sph.
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post Feb 21 2014, 11:19 AM

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QUOTE(thpace @ Feb 21 2014, 10:46 AM)
The it leave it a few choices already Pzh2000 or K9, if malaysia were to follow not to buy similar equipments with their neighbors
But also the most expensive iinm sweat.gif
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Archer is having problem.
norway recently withdraw from the project.
It would be gooding if we enter into the project as well making our own guided round as well.
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QUOTE(zimhibikie @ Feb 21 2014, 11:21 AM)
dari segi long-term cost, K9 is the better bet, since Pzh2000 is German-made, have a more complex system and more expensive spare-parts..
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Kalau k9 bagi full tot boleh lar.
Yang saya risau ialah k9 dan pzh2000 terlebih berat.

QUOTE(thpace @ Feb 21 2014, 11:31 AM)
I think the army would rather have a ready product then wait for it develop again  smile.gif  SPH procurement was long overdue for malaysia

K9 there seem to have a few problem as well. Some korean forum discuss that their auto loader is not as fast as advertised
Officially pzh2000 9 rounds while K9 6 rounds perminute although K9 is 10ton lighter

Some local journalist mention we might get second hand unit of pzh2000 from dutch army if the deal went through, dunno true or not smile.gif
K9 maybe can come with some deal on dokdo class ldp whistling.gif  since both are korean made
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Archer start delivering dec last years so no problem.
We can go for enhance development.

German still got surplus sph.
crotia did get the deal done at usd35 for 2nd hand pzh2000.
Not sure if we being offer such deals.
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post Feb 21 2014, 11:57 AM

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QUOTE(zimhibikie @ Feb 21 2014, 11:55 AM)
i think it would be the other way around, buy Dokdo with K9 package  tongue.gif  tongue.gif  tongue.gif
China one looks good, why we no buy them? Dun say about quality, dun think PLA wants sub-standard equipments in their arsenal..
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China?
I dun mind if they bagi full tot dari a-z.
kalau tak tak payah lah.
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post Feb 21 2014, 12:06 PM

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QUOTE(zimhibikie @ Feb 21 2014, 11:59 AM)
rasa yer boleh dapat full ToT ni utk sph China tu, kalau cost cantek, can get them at higher quantity
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My concern is the tech.
How good was it?
I want nice targeting system and fcs like the archer sph.
And also good guided round as well.
kalau ada ambik je.
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post Feb 21 2014, 12:13 PM

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QUOTE(zimhibikie @ Feb 21 2014, 12:07 PM)
targeting system takder leh dapat COTS?
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Dunno lor.

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QUOTE(zimhibikie @ Feb 21 2014, 12:14 PM)
K9 got targeting system? Coz they missed NK's arty positions horribly...even SK news agency yg cakap..
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Most of the latest sph ada targeting system.
archer for example targeting and fcs enable it to create arty barrage effect with a single sph.
It also capable of increase accuracy for non guided round.
Crusader also capable of doing that though project were being cancel.
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QUOTE(zimhibikie @ Feb 21 2014, 12:24 PM)
I think Malaysia already on very good terms with China, heck we even didnt sticked with our ASEAN partners on a resolution about China's aggresive involvement in SCS..
is archer sph that more expensive and heavy? coz i think i could live with myself if we go for cheaper sph..
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30tons je boleh naik a400m without a problem.
price tag murah sikit daripada pzh2000.
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QUOTE(waja2000 @ Feb 21 2014, 12:44 PM)
technology should no problem, SH2 A400M event can carry 2 unit.

SH2-info

The SH2 is also with a computerized fire-control system, including GPS navigation and positioning, targeting, and communications systems, all of which adopt the modular design for easy maintenance and upgrade. The artillery is used within a C4ISR network at company or battalion level. The SH2 is fitted with a central-inflating system.
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http://www.army-guide.com/eng/product3185.html

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Sh2 use smaller caliber so no thanks.
plz05 43tons a400m cannot bawa no thanks.

I would eye on archer and ceaser sph.
but still prefer archer sph for gooding tech.
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post Feb 21 2014, 03:29 PM

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Darn birt lobbying so hard
Air Chief Marshal Sir Andrew Pulford RAF, Chief of the Air Staff Royal Air Force made his visit to Butterworth AFB on February 14.
look like they want to lease ef2000 t1.
They will be submitting the proposal next months.

I hope oz give us free hornet instead.
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QUOTE(KYPMbangi @ Feb 21 2014, 03:31 PM)
Damn, Say no to typhoon!
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Nanti russia offer pakfa prototype lease deals.
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QUOTE(thpace @ Feb 21 2014, 03:36 PM)
i would not mind that..  laugh.gif

at least we have stealth compared to others
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I think our neighbours mind that.
I bet even USAF begging for training with us. laugh.gif .
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QUOTE(zimhibikie @ Feb 21 2014, 03:59 PM)
yup, for sure they will pecah piggy bank to get F35..

offer from BAe is quite interesting. However, lease option is beneficial only if we going to get the same fighter. Eg, if we leased Gripens, then in near future, we going to get Gripen NG..or Typhoon Tranche 1, near future will get Typhoon Tranche 3..
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Nah, mayb only.
but if the fighter giving lot problem so goodbye.
I'm more interested on australia hornet instead kalau dapat free from them kan bagus.
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QUOTE(ayanami_tard @ Feb 21 2014, 04:06 PM)
lease Typhoon plz. ask them to upgrade to T3 first!
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Airframe limitation.
at best pun until t2.
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QUOTE(KYPMbangi @ Feb 21 2014, 04:08 PM)
Aussie can give us free hornet?
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Dunno but try ask first.
they still have lots of f18 operating.
perhaps still depend on the f35.
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QUOTE(thpace @ Feb 21 2014, 04:15 PM)
they have F35, we got pak fa  drool.gif

Ya, they surely would like to test against their own f35 or f22 tongue.gif  If we have lah. But Pak Fa ada offer to us or not?

If get must force those russiks to open maintenace center in malaysia to avoid problems
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Pakfa where got offer. Joke only.
irkut open oem plant so no problem for sukhoi jets.

They are going to retire those hornet anyway.
They dun mind giving things out.

QUOTE(KYPMbangi @ Feb 21 2014, 04:15 PM)
They do have lots of old F-18A/B though
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Yup.
most of them can operates until 2020.
Should not be a problem for us.
mayb just go for some minor upgrade and servicing.
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QUOTE(ayanami_tard @ Feb 21 2014, 04:35 PM)
kasi cukup our F/A-18 until full squadron

which means another 10.

pakistan just bought 3rd hand F-16s from jordan on the cheap.MLU variant summore(while jordan is going to get 2nd hand F-16s from Netherlands. where's is the logic i dun even know)

so if ask austria to sell their F/A-18s for 10 mil/piece sounds good enough. send them to US for upgrade bcos TAI (turk aeronotic industry) dun do F/A-18...
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10mil is abit expensive giving it able last until 2020.
We should get 28 units 2sqn would be nice.

airframe is still a main concern though.
Though they have make some airframe lifecycle not long ago.

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