rainwen,

They are pills that you consume to prevent acne from forming. Anyway, from the list that Chester mentioned, he tried everything and finally comes into a brand that suits him. Yup, the situation always happen to one that try desperately for everything that he/she could get, and finally he/she got it. So, stick on it. I would not say that this brand is good for you will be also good for him. It really varies. There are many kind of sensitive skins which I forgot their scientific name as what my mum has told me years before.

Chester,

Proactiv Solution did not work. Why? As you scrutinize the ingredients and read past testimonials, you will discover that most of the patients are from american, which their weather and temperature is different. Imagine that Glycolic Acid in the toner mixed with the sweat will cause chemical reaction. You are like applying a shield on your face, which when you sweats, it melts, sometimes go into your eye and its stinging! Avene is a well known brand, using the natural spring ( if I'm not mistaken) and natural ingredients. Roc is also considered ok for sensitive skin.

Anyway, heard a brand name NEOSTRATA? I am currently doing survey about this brand. As most of my feedback told me this brand is too strong for acne.

Good to know that your acne condition is better after using Liquid Neutrogena and Neutrogena On-the-spot. Both of them are great acne products in my top10 list.

For make-up, try to avoid thick foundation. Look for the words 'non-comedogenic' the time you purchase. Well, I rarely use makeup, only lipsticks everyday when working. Perhaps you could tell me your current makeup brand, then I will go for a look.

Okie, Chester, I never come across that a guy will be conscious towards acne because some of my male friends didn't really bother them although its kinda of in severe condition already.

Let you know more about Neostrata soon. Anyway, mind to share your journey of battling acne ? Because to be honest, I really need guy's opinion regarding acne too. See how's the feel and what did they do.

dya_ungu,

Almost every makeup you used are branded, so I have no doubt towards these well known brands. Anyway, about the fading of makeup, seems that you really need something to 'soak' up the excessive oil from your skin. Do you try to use Clean&Clear oil removing film before? The blue color one? Its made from silicone sheet and the oil soaking degree is very high. Otherwise you could use other oil blotting sheets.

I will need to dig out my information before I would recommend you other thing. Let you know, perhaps tomorrow. Going to bed now, YAWN...tomorrow working:)

dya_ungu,


I would say AVOID synthetic oil products. I recommend you NeutrogenaŽ Oil-Free Moisture For Sensitive Skin. It can be easily pump up, so no wastage. Its really suitable for sensitive skin. Use about twenty cent coin amount is sufficient to cover your whole face. Apply little bit more when you are in air-cond .



As if your face tend to be VERY oily in air-cond, then its probably because your skin is dry in but oily out. So, you need to moisturize deeply to let your skin balance it off. I would recommend CetaphilŽ Moisturizing Lotion for this kind of situation.



Actually, I didn't stick on one moisturizer but I will see the condition where I will be in. Obviously I would not have until 5-6 moisturizers, but 1-2 is okie for different situation.

PentSY,


I have recommended kobe8bryant Cetaphil Gentle Skin Cleanser and he feels comfortable with it. Actually Tolsom will be a little bit dry, you are a guy, right? because Tolsom from Amway is for guy. Since you have a physician, then you would have to consult him as he/she is looking at your skin directly rather than us here. Well, to make the Eryderm works fine, you will need to have a clean skin for it to start reacting to your skin. I would really rather recommend you Cetaphil rather than Tolsom. Believe me, after you use Cetaphil, your skin will be smoother and totally not the same with your current skin condition.

Some might claim that Cetaphil cannot lather and its like thick water stuff but its really a great product that it puts aside unnecessary ingredients that would potentially affect your skin. Doctors even recommend mummy to use Cetaphil for infants because its so gentle.

Anyway, please quote me the key ingredient in Eryderm. I would like to know more about that.


rainwen,


Yes, you could sue a whole range of a brand. Because some is designed specifically to compliment one to another. For toner, if you have followed up with my previous posts, you will notice that I am a person who really emphasized on MILD products. Go for something that is not strong, MILD. Keep those with AHA, BHA and etc away first. Anyway, you could provide a link for us as if you think of any brand that come across your mind.

Moisturizer, besides what i recommend dya_ungu, St.Ives has also a great moisturizer..forgot the name already. Perhaps you can have a look on that.



Jinyee

This post has been edited by jinyee80: Jul 24 2006, 09:31 PM

You can get it at Guardian, and any counter that sell skincare products. It easily reachable. Anyway, the price is not really cheap. Anyway, gonna invest the money in if you believe on it!

Though I am not a fan of Avene, I do recommend one of their products which I think is really good to use when you feel your skin is a little dry. Its convenience too!

The Avene Thermal Spring Water


Jinyee

This post has been edited by jinyee80: Jul 24 2006, 09:36 PM

dya_ungu,

Yes, moisturizer 1st. Let it dry out by itself. Then apply foundation. Smear it smooth and evenly. Do not apply too thick. Yup, Neutrogena produces really good products, but recently their new range of products intend to mix different skin type to another. The marketing team of Neutrogena is too eager to gain more stake in the skincare market which their recent products will somehow are not as good as their predecessor.

Liquid Neutrogena is one of my top 3 facial cleanser list for recommendation. Its really the products that was used since the old times.



Jinyee

The first time I looked through the ingredient list you provide, straight away I shook my head. 77% of alcohol is really overdrying to your skin. I would say that you better put that product away from you.

Try Neutrogena On-the-spot, its really a good product which its mild for sensitive skin yet be able to help the skin to prevent acne.

Remember, ALWAYS ALWAYS get skincare products that their 1st until 5th ingredients do not consist of alcohol.

Yup, you can get Cetaphil at guardian or Vitacare( if I'm not mistaken). Purchase the pump version as you wouldn't waste it by accidently pouring too much.

This post has been edited by jinyee80: Jul 24 2006, 11:08 PM

Isopropyl palmitate. It is used in cosmetics as a thickening agent and emollient. As is true for any emollient or thickening agent, it can potentially clog pores, depending on the amount used in the product.

Well, consealer is not that recommend dear dya_ungu. Kaolin, as named as Talc may clog pores. Titanium Oxide and Iron Oxides are agent that helps to reflect sunlight, also known as sunscreen and they may potentially clogging pores.

Stay put on your foundation will be advised. Anyway, you could use concealer during important events, otherwise for normally usage, it will really exhausting your skin.



Jinyee

Well, acne did not choose its 'victim'. Some might get it within puberty, and stop while some persist for longer period; some might don't get it during puberty but after certain situation such as having baby and etcetra.

Yup, I agree that we should let guys to post their problems as well. Really need some feedbacks from the guys as I am currently doing research and review towards acne and certain brands.


Well, thank you for the compliment ( dare not to take it at first ). Having acne for 10+ years is not a really serious problem if you start having it during your standard 6 or form 1 time. The problem might persist and it might stop automatically during a session as if its due to hormon. However, if its because you are having sensitive skin and yet using harsh products, then I have to say sorry to you because you might not be getting acne for a longer time but you are also harming your skin.

Anyway, you really need to scrutinize into the root rather than eliminating one pimple on your right, then another pops up from your left. So, for having it for 10 years, I would recommend you to either look into your skin type and other criteria.

Puss is because your skin is dry in oily out. Well, you may need to apply something that is moisturizing yet is non comedogenic. SIMPLE Oil Control moisturizer will only helps to moisturize your surface layer of skin rather than your whole skin which consists of dermis and epidermis. It may control the oil as first, as it forms a film on the top of your skin, its like shielding it out but as time goes by, your inner layer of skin will feel dry because it cannot breathe. So, to moisturize itself, your skin by itself develop extra sebum to keep your skin in balance, the inner and the outer part.

That's why I emphasize, and always emphasize on products that did not really make your skin worse as it claims it will help at first ( their marketing strategy ). Estebel, well, I would highly recommend you to put aside your current facial cleanser, substitute it with my favorite Cetaphil and put aside SIMPLE and your toner as well. As in toner, many brands intend to put large amount of alcohol inside, as their perception is that alcohol will be a good anti-bacterial agent but it hurts your skin if its too dry.

For every person that PM me for their acne problem, I would sincerely recommend them to change to the products that I recommended. The mighty CETAPHIL GENTLE FACIAL CLEANSER, and again the NEUTROGENA ON-THE-SPOT. For moisturizer, you may go for NeutrogenaŽ Oil-Free Moisture for Combination Skin as it will helps in soaking extra sebum on your face with cyclomethicone ( its silicone that soak up oil ).



This post has been edited by jinyee80: Jul 25 2006, 09:37 PM

Red marks, we called it as hyperpigmentation. It will heal its owns but it might vary from one personnel to another.

Okie, for red marks. I will say that no necessary product you need to use particulary for this, otherwise if its a scar, then I will recommend you something.

Don't really believe on those whitenning and lightenning products out there because it will really burden your skin and it might also cause other skin problems. Well, just use a SPF moisturizer when you gonna go out, under the sun, then again moisturize your skin properly at night, I think its sufficient for the skin itself to heal by its own.

Our skin can rejuvenate itself, just that sometimes the products that we used may delay the process. So, clean well, moisturize well, then its ok already. Don't feel embarass about that anyway, and please do not use heavy make up to cover it. Let it be and it will heal by its own rather than applying ABC products in, which you would not want to risk your skin!


Jinyee

My goodness. C&C toner contains a lot of alcohol and should be prevented. Yup, some books guide you so but its not compulsory. It varies for one to another. Well, stick to your Liquid Neutrogena and Neutrogena on-the-spot and what's the moisturizer are you using currently?

Mask is ok.

When alcohols have low molecular weights they can be drying and irritating. The alcohols to be concerned about in skin-care products are ethanol, denatured alcohol, ethyl alcohol, methanol, benzyl alcohol, isopropyl, and SD alcohol, which can be extremely drying and irritating to skin.
(Sources: "Skin Care from the Inside Out and Outside In," Tufts Daily, April 1, 2002; eMedicine Journal, May 8, 2002, volume 3, number 5, www.emedicine.com; Cutis, February 2001, pages 25?7; and Contact Dermatitis, January 1996, pages 126).

When these ingredients are at the top of an ingredient list it is problematic for all skin types, when they are at the end of an ingredient list there isn't enough concentration present to be considered a problem for skin.

This post has been edited by jinyee80: Jul 26 2006, 06:33 AM

Oily type of skin doesn't mean you do not require moisturizer. Anyway, it might vary. So you should identify whether your skin is dry in oily out, or oily in and oily out as well. Normally, I will not advise you to use moisturizer during the daytime, of course when you expose to the hot sun, you began to sweat, your makeup starting to melt, your moisturizer began to turn in watery when it reacts with your sweat.

My advise would be use moisturizer at night when you sleep in the aircond. That's it. During the day, cleanse your skin, apply foundation, then you are ready for a brand new day. At night, cleanse, tone if you want, apply Neutrogena On-the-spot, wait for some time, then apply moisturizer, then rest. Take note that Neutrogena on-the-spot should never ever be used on daytime because the main ingredient Benzoyl Peroxide will cause your skin to expose more to the UV and it might also cause hyperpigmentation.

Regarding the toner, I really don't have any toner can be recommended to you. Because I can't find one that is widely available and the price is affordable and quality is compromising. Anyway, toner is not compulsory but is recommended if your daily cleanser did not cleanse well, but Cetaphil and Liquid Neutrogena could, so, basically no worries for you!

Mask, you might need mask for moisturization and for acne as well. I have yet to find any mask that contains NO fragrance at all. You might try Hisatmitsu wear and tear mask if you aim for convenience rather than the conventional mask. Please avoid mask that contains SULPHUR, it may be a good antiseptic, but its too harsh for the skin. Find mask with ingredients such as KAOLIN, CYCLOMETHICONE, ALLANTOIN and other properties. Avoid those mask that contains AHA and BHA as well.

Normally if you continuously using Neutrogena on-the-spot, your pore will become smaller. Anyway, pores did not really stretch big or small, if you read some professional articles in the internet. When no impurities in your pores, and the oxygen flows is smooth, then your pores will obviously look smaller. It looks bigger because there's impurities or residues stay put in your pores. It is just like corking your pores.

Indeed. Not even mind that you chip in. Would be happier if other forumers are willing to share their thoughts and post some opinions. Interaction is important. As mentioned, yup, there's moisturizer for oily skin. There's also moisturizer with dry skin, the different things is their ingredients vary. Look for non-comedogenic and oil-free when you select your moisturizer if you have oily skin. Neutrogena has a range of moisturizer than i would recommend for either day use or night use. Please revise my previous posts.

Recommendation, for daily use, go for NeutrogenaŽ Oil-Free Moisture SPF 15 if you exposed more towards the sun.

If you did not expose that much to the sun, then probably you should try NeutrogenaŽ Oil-Free Moisture for Combination Skin as it is a lightweight, dual-action formula that moisturizes dry areas while it controls oily shine.

At night, go for NeutrogenaŽ Oil-Free Moisture For Sensitive Skin as it is a lightweight, water-based moisturizer that provides gentle yet effective moisturization for even the most sensitive skin.

So if you have oily-sensitive skin, morning, use Neutrogena Combination, night use Neutrogena Sensitive skin.

if you have oily-not sensitive skin, morning, use Neutrogena SPF, night Neutrogena sensitive.

if you have combination skin, morning use Neutrogena SPF or Combination,night use Neutrogena combination.

You are right Zoe. Combination skin tend to be sensitive as well. Basically combination skin owner would develop excessive sebum on their T-Zone, which consists of the forehead, nose until the chin. While other areas such as cheek, jawline, eye side will be dry. Well, I would recommend everyone to use sensitive skin products, well, because its more gentle to your skin. Be conservative rather than taking risk on your skin. You don't want to end up with a blue/purple color skin due to irritation.

Generally, sensitive skin products will be more gentle, less or no unnecessary addictive such as fragrance and oil-free. Anyway, those words might be deceiving for some products because it returns to be fundamental of marketing. The marketing team just wrote it down to boost the sales rather than rectifying the nature of the products.




I would advise you to apply Neutrogena on-the-spot to area which are acne prone. Acne can not be cured, it can only be prevented before it starts its 28 days forming cycle. Benzoyl Peroxide will clear your pores, no cork, that means the airflow through your pores is smooth, then you will notice that your pores will not be a big as the time you have dirts and sebum in your corked pores.

Okie, to make a long story short, basically dry in oily out skin means you will still feel your skin is dry but yet when you touch it, it feels oily. The happens mostly to those who are not get used to air-cond enviroment. Your skin tends not to balance of. The epidermis thought that the enviroment is too dry ( air-cond), so it produces more sebum for moisturizing purpose. However, the inner skin do not have sufficient time to react with the outer layer, then you will notice the inner part is dry, but outer is oily.

Oily in oily out is the most basic and typical oily skin. You feel oily and its really oily. Your skin shines and you felt sticky.



For acne, basically one would either have sensitive skin which you use inappropriate products that contribute to acne, or oily skin, you did not deal well with your skin, leaving excessive sebum and residue to accumulate, creating a decent enviroment for P.acne bacteria to survive. You might have both as well, sensitive and oily.

Of course combination skin will also get acne, mainly on oily area.

Mentholatum is applicable for skin. But as the SPF got higher, that means its potential to clog your proes will get higher as well. A SPF15 is sufficient for normal usage already. As if you go to beach, then SPF65 is ok. No point applying too much SPF on your face because there's two type of SPF, which the 1st is it creates a layer of shield to reflect the UV, so everytime your skin will looks whiter, and shiner; the latter would be it will create a layer of filter on your skin, which it decrease the level of UV into your skin, which this will reduce dark pigment from forming on your skin. Titanium Dioxide, Iron Oxide, and etc tend to be the 1st, while the 2nd, I forgot the name already



Jinyee

Please do not use other moisturizer than what is recommended as I have proven research result that the combination of certain products will work. Should you intend to select your preferred moisturizer then you would have to take the risk for it.

If there's no moisturizer, then no need to apply. Wait until it comes, apply a thin layer is ok. Anyway, only apply it at night, when you are in air-cond. If you are not, then no need. Means that day and night also no need to apply moisturizer.

No, I am not. My mum is a dermatologist, she's in UK now. And I have acne during my kiddo time, so with my mum's advices and helps, I knew about acne. After years of writing products review in some websites and did several researchs and survey, I gain more knowledge about acne. Hoping that one day I might be able to come out with a book to share with others. (Don't day dreaming lar..haha)


Can use it for your hand if you can't unload it off. Anyway, dya_ungu, are you often stay in air-cond environment?





Jinyee

How many years are you using Clinique already? I am the fans of its fragrance - the HAPPY and HAPPY HEART.


Jinyee

Then u will need a moisturizer. Neutrogena sensitive skin will do .

This post has been edited by jinyee80: Aug 1 2006, 06:46 PM