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English Clubs Chelsea FC V23, BPL - Chelsea 0 - 0 West Ham

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post Jan 8 2014, 12:22 PM

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QUOTE(lol~ @ Jan 8 2014, 10:22 AM)
I thought mata already state he dont wanna leave,no?
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i think his father which is his agent is lobbying the move.
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The agent of Manchester United target Fredy Guarin has revealed that the Inter Milan midfielder never received an offer from Chelsea, and now looks set to stay at San Siro beyond the January transfer window, reports Sky Sports.

Responding to mounting speculation about his client, Marcelo Ferreyra moved to deny rumours of an imminent transfer to the Premier League, and reiterated the Colombian's commitment to his current club.

"It's false. We have never got offers from Chelsea," he told FcInternews. "We are happy at Inter, even if we don't know what [club president] Erick Thohir's intentions are."

"They must let us know if they want to count on him and if so, we must discuss the new contract of which we already spoke about last June, but that has not arrived yet because of the club's sale."

Red Devils boss David Moyes is also understood to have been monitoring the 27-year-old's situation, as he too weighed up an attempt to lure the player to Old Trafford.

"It's a heartbreaking thing not to know what Thohir wants, because he never talked to us," he added.

"However, we want to know what the president thinks about my client, because if he considers him the best player of the team he must be valued like this."

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I think Guarin's agent is toying with Inter, Man Utd and us to see which side offer better deals to Guarin. If Inter do not give contact extension, Guarin will still be sold this month to either us or Man Utd. hmm.gif
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post Jan 8 2014, 01:43 PM

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our next PL game is against hull city away and then Man United at home. IMO, given their current form and morale, this is the best time for us to face them.. especially since its played in our fortress.

im not trying to be negative but i think... i think we wont buy any striker this January transfer. we will be sticking with Torres Ba and Eto'o until the end of the season.
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QUOTE(masterpoloking @ Jan 8 2014, 01:52 PM)
our next PL game is against hull city away and then Man United at home. IMO, given their current form and morale, this is the best time for us to face them.. especially since its played in our fortress.

im not trying to be negative but i think... i think we wont buy any striker this January transfer. we will be sticking with Torres Ba and Eto'o until the end of the season.
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but if ba go then how?imo 2 ST is not enough and both ST does not have strong physical.
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post Jan 8 2014, 02:11 PM

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QUOTE(masterpoloking @ Jan 8 2014, 02:52 PM)
our next PL game is against hull city away and then Man United at home. IMO, given their current form and morale, this is the best time for us to face them.. especially since its played in our fortress.

im not trying to be negative but i think... i think we wont buy any striker this January transfer. we will be sticking with Torres Ba and Eto'o until the end of the season.
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rvp and rooney injured eh? are they going to be available against us?

QUOTE(lol~ @ Jan 8 2014, 03:01 PM)
but if ba go then how?imo 2 ST is not enough and both ST does not have strong physical.
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2 is not enough but..3 is too much hahaha laugh.gif
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post Jan 8 2014, 03:13 PM

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QUOTE(lol~ @ Jan 8 2014, 02:01 PM)
but if ba go then how?imo 2 ST is not enough and both ST does not have strong physical.
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We could go for false 9 formation where hazard play as an att mid... done by barca, completed by us... lol
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post Jan 8 2014, 03:14 PM

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"Boring tag unfair to Chelsea"
read this

http://espnfc.com/blog/_/name/chelsea/id/2255?cc=4716

Rooney will probably play against us next week but not sure about RVP though...is he injured ? Kinda hope he cant make it next week as he has a good scoring record against us biggrin.gif
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well somebody have different ideas on our striker force..hahaha

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Chelsea latest transfer news: Man Utd's Rooney, Van Persie raid?
The chaos at Old Trafford could see star players leave
By Staff
Published Wednesday, January 08, 2014

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Jose Mourinho is way to canny not to cash in on the current chaos at Manchester United.

On the one hand he has the mighty Manchester City with a squad that can afford to chase four titles, injuries and all.

The Special One must know that for Stamford Bridge to be able to compete with that kind of bench strength, his current roster is just not enough.

Especially not with all his goal-scoring strikers out on loan.

He must also have one eye on Arsenal who seem to have found enough of spine to go with their flair as they mount a genuine title charge for the first time in years.

The pickings from Manchester United might be needed not just to counter City, but to keep the Gunners at bay as well.

So maybe Wayne Rooney alone is not enough.

If, and when, he does make the switch, Mourinho may do well to consider a bid for another United star – think the unthinkable – Robin Van Persie.

Van Persie left Arsenal because he wanted to win trophies.

He has won one at United. And one is not going to be enough for a striker of his class and calibre.

Arsene Wenger might be too proud to give RVP a way back to the Emirates and RVP may be too proud to take it.

RVP will be hungry for more silverware and United may be out of it for a few years as Moyes attempts to build a new dynasty.

With a Chelsea midfield foundation of Eden Hazard, Oscar, Ramires, Juan Mata and Lampard, Rooney and RVP could genuinely have a platform to shine.

The pressure could be off Fernando Torres and Romelu Lukaku could be brought back from Everton and Cheslea could field Lukaku, Torres, Rooney and Van Persie to counter Aguero, Negredo, Dzeko and Navas.

Will Mourinho dare?


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Lol.
Some high class weed he is having

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post Jan 8 2014, 03:42 PM

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Signing 1 striker is ok la, either Rooney or RVP. But both?? doh.gif we are playing 4-2-3-1, so we need only 3 striker. Man City is playing something like 4-4-1-1 with a striker playing as AM role, slightly deeper, that's why they need 4 strikers. doh.gif

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post Jan 8 2014, 05:06 PM

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QUOTE(Ichighost @ Jan 8 2014, 03:15 PM)
well somebody have different ideas on our striker force..hahaha
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Lol? MUtards will join blue force..lol.
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Manchester United – worse than Mrs Brown’s Boys

Trying to pick the worst aspect of Manchester United latest slump in form is like selecting the least amusing scene from a Mrs Brown's Boys Christmas special.
There is much to choose from, and in many ways there's no wrong answer - in the end it's all part of the same desolate, depressing spectacle.

Still, at least people actually seem to like Mrs Brown (and if you're one of them, you can stop reading now). There might have been people laughing last night, but none of them supported United, whose fanbase has been sucked into a collective state of near-catatonic despair.
Playing the role of the cross-dresser who glues himself to the toilet is, of course, David Moyes.
He's an obvious fall guy; his failure to strengthen the squad in the summer; his prehistoric tactics; his glazed and helpless look as United slump to another defeat; the way he isn't Sir Alex Ferguson.

Moyes is making the job of replacing Fergie's look even harder than it probably is. In fact the only bit he's getting right is the constant complaining about refs.
[Moyes blames 'terrible' referee for defeat]
But far worse than Moyes's performance last night was that of his team, who showed a malaise that goes far beyond the painful inadequacy of Tom Cleverley.
It was United's senior players who disappointed most, failing to get a grip as the game slipped away. This was an experienced United side, but after Fabio Borini's 64th-minute penalty who galvanised them?

Not Ryan Giggs, not Nemanja Vidic, not Michael Carrick - and certainly not Patrice Evra, who showed more enthusiasm in his running battle with ref Andre Marriner than he did in trying to contain Adam Johnson.
[MATCHCAST: Sunderland 2-1 Manchester United]

None of United's old heads did a thing to avert the slow-motion car crash of their third defeat on the bounce.

At this point, it's easy to again turn to Moyes and blame him for failing to inspire his players.

But if you think that responsibility for motivation lies solely with the manager, look at Chelsea.

Throughout the turmoil of Roman Abramovich's revolving door policy, the squad has retained its extraordinary ability to overcome adversity and win trophies.
Chelsea's drive comes not from the manager, but from their players.
John Terry, Frank Lampard, Petr Cech, Didier Drogba - they have seen (and in some cases encouraged) a dizzying rate of change in the dugout, yet nothing seems to dull their knack of ending the season with a shiny pot or two.

It's the managers who understand the players' importance, and not impose themselves too strongly, who have succeeded - Guus Hiddink, Carlo Ancelotti. Even Jose Mourinho, for all that he's perceived as a megalomaniac, is smart enough to understand that Chelsea's senior players remain their biggest asset.
He has always chosen to pick fights with Joe Cole, Arjen Robben and Juan Mata, players - literally and metaphorically - outside the core of the side.

Given their centrality, Chelsea's leading players have been accused of undermining managers like Luiz Felipe Scolari and Andre Villas Boas - which is where we return to United.


Sir Alex Ferguson's 26-year reign at Old Trafford was all about control. It is the central theme of his book, in which anyone who threatens that control is dispensed with.
Although it is easy to forget his relationship with Roy Keane lasted over a decade, Ferguson obviously prefers leaders by deed like Paul Scholes, Giggs, Vidic.
That being so, is it really surprising he bequeathed Moyes a squad almost devoid of strong characters and natural leaders?
Fergie wanted players he could influence, whom he could mould - for 90 minutes - into mini-versions of himself. Players who would not threaten his mastery of the dressing room.

But where right now Moyes needs players to draw on their internal reserves of fortitude, to take charge of situations, he has a group who have spent their time at Old Trafford suppressing any urges to do that.
It makes no sense to 'blame' Ferguson for United's current predicament. He might have left Moyes a squad of lily-livered shirkers, but those lily-livered shirkers did win a Premier League title not nine months ago.

In any case, is it not enough for him to bring home 25 major trophies as manager - does he have to ensure victory after he's retired, too?

Moyes could have signed more and better players, his tactics could be more progressive, but it probably wouldn't have made much difference. And there's really no point sacking him now.

Fatalistic as it may be, United's disastrous season is an almost inevitable consequence of losing a manager of such monolithic significance.

Having spent two decades defying the sporting law of cycles, United are finally tasting bitter reality.

The pratfalls, the tawdry quality, the despondency, the deep sense of shame - it really is just like watching Mrs Brown's Boys.

Source : HERE
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Well, I would say give some time to Moyes. The team is generally inherited from SAF with only 1 signing which is Fellaini. Moyes will need time to impose his strategy, style and philosophy into the team. For us Chelsea fans, dear Moyes, take ur sweet time ok? whistling.gif

Now no Drogba dy. cry.gif Our core players left are Lamps, Terry, Cech, Cole. With Mou, we will gain new identity. When our core players play, it gives a spirited display to our side. With time, Cahill, Hazard, Iva and Lukaku will be our new batch of core players. brows.gif
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QUOTE(briantwj @ Jan 8 2014, 05:47 PM)
Well, I would say give some time to Moyes. The team is generally inherited from SAF with only 1 signing which is Fellaini. Moyes will need time to impose his strategy, style and philosophy into the team. For us Chelsea fans, dear Moyes, take ur sweet time ok? whistling.gif

Now no Drogba dy.  cry.gif Our core players left are Lamps, Terry, Cech, Cole. With Mou, we will gain new identity. When our core players play, it gives a spirited display to our side. With time, Cahill, Hazard, Iva and Lukaku will be our new batch of core players. brows.gif
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Mana azpi, willian, mata and luiz.
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QUOTE(briantwj @ Jan 8 2014, 06:47 PM)
Well, I would say give some time to Moyes. The team is generally inherited from SAF with only 1 signing which is Fellaini. Moyes will need time to impose his strategy, style and philosophy into the team. For us Chelsea fans, dear Moyes, take ur sweet time ok? whistling.gif

Now no Drogba dy.  cry.gif Our core players left are Lamps, Terry, Cech, Cole. With Mou, we will gain new identity. When our core players play, it gives a spirited display to our side. With time, Cahill, Hazard, Iva and Lukaku will be our new batch of core players. brows.gif
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well i dont really care about them..i want to focus on the bolded part..where our core player hold us together..as for them SAF hold the team together..

QUOTE(yinchet @ Jan 8 2014, 06:56 PM)
Mana azpi, willian, mata and luiz.
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as for now..only hazard is the core for me..oscar..iva..cahill and azpi reputation rising..but not yet on the same level as hazard..mata and luiz losing this atm..but if they can force their way in..both of them will be the same level as hazard..both already fans favourite..
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If Terry retires, I think our new core in defence is definitely Iva. He has been with us through all the managers changing. CB or RB, no prob for him. thumbup.gif

If Lamps retires, core for midfield will be Ram/Mikel. Mikel is the most experienced amongst our young stars.

Striker department. Still looking for a new core afta King Drog's departure. sad.gif
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QUOTE(briantwj @ Jan 8 2014, 06:14 PM)
If Terry retires, I think our new core in defence is definitely Iva. He has been with us through all the managers changing. CB or RB, no prob for him. thumbup.gif

If Lamps retires, core for midfield will be Ram/Mikel. Mikel is the most experienced amongst our young stars.

Striker department. Still looking for a new core afta King Drog's departure.  sad.gif
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Lukaku definitely the next king.
seeing him prove at everton, he will be chelsea next legend without a doubt.
but then we still cna't find ballack and makalele replacement. sad.gif
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QUOTE(yinchet @ Jan 8 2014, 07:31 PM)
Lukaku definitely the next king.
seeing him prove at everton, he will be chelsea next legend without a doubt.
but then we still cna't find ballack and makalele replacement. sad.gif
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MVG and Chalobah. smile.gif
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QUOTE(Ichighost @ Jan 8 2014, 06:32 PM)
MVG and Chalobah.  smile.gif
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That still depend how well they developed.

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