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English Clubs Chelsea FC V23, BPL - Chelsea 0 - 0 West Ham

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post Jan 23 2014, 05:34 PM

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QUOTE(alip_11 @ Jan 23 2014, 06:23 PM)
new rumor that bayern wanna hijack mata deal with extra 10mil. whistling.gif
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if its the same amount I also take it.

QUOTE(GravityFi3ld @ Jan 23 2014, 06:29 PM)
Quick question;
Say Chelsea is a willing seller, and will let go Mata(or any other player) if the expected fee is met or exceeded. BUT the player doesn't want to go to that club (that made the offer to buy).

How will it turn out?
Can Chelsea force Mata to leave (in this case, to ManUtd) if he doesn't want to?
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cant. at the end of the day..everyone must agree before the deal go thru.
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post Jan 23 2014, 07:03 PM

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QUOTE(kucingmainan @ Jan 23 2014, 07:51 PM)
willian really is average going forward. what else can i say? he's good in covering defense. but going forward, so so only. thats the reality man.
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willian is great going forward..his first touch and passing that are below Mata.

QUOTE(kucingmainan @ Jan 23 2014, 07:56 PM)
once oscar + hazard out injured. we'll be firing blank.  cry.gif . hopefully the club use all the money we get from mata + kdb to buy suarez.  tongue.gif
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urghh man suarez no resale value plus liverpool might get UCL spot this season.. if we sign replacement..he will be 20+ years old players.
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post Jan 23 2014, 07:21 PM

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QUOTE(kucingmainan @ Jan 23 2014, 08:18 PM)
no need resale value for suarez. hes phenomenal. enough said. if mou can persuade him to join us. hnggggggggggh.
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if he injured?
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post Jan 23 2014, 07:26 PM

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QUOTE(kucingmainan @ Jan 23 2014, 08:24 PM)
if he injured, we still got elnino and superetoo. no worries. enough cover upfront.
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he is the main man for liverpool. nearly impossible to get him. biggrin.gif
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post Jan 23 2014, 07:47 PM

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Ultimately though, it is the player’s decision. Mourinho challenged Mata to deliver more for the team, a challenge he didn’t want to meet and others have relished. In the second half of the season Mata could have worked hard to get himself into the side and helped Chelsea win the title, the Champions League or the FA Cup. Cup-tied and in the doldrums of the league the best he can hope for in Manchester is winning a Champions League place. Professionally it makes little sense to pass up on titles but, for a career, the offer of more money and an easier life by getting more minutes on the pitch is understandable. A place in the world cup squad is more important than what Chelsea can achieve? Mourinho’s decision to part with De Bruyne and Mata suddenly starts to make sense – if it’s not the team and the club first then, whoever you may be, it’s thank you but goodbye.

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post Jan 23 2014, 08:25 PM

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mata said to stay and fight for his place. jose said want him to stay and important for chelsea, the club also said want mata to stay.

somehow.

rumors that he is going to united.

hahahaha
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post Jan 23 2014, 08:32 PM

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QUOTE(shiinkuro31 @ Jan 23 2014, 09:30 PM)
Mata + Oscar + Hazard combo is great. Mata didnt suit to tactical reason? How about squad rotation?
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cant brain this..doesn't make sense at all.

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post Jan 23 2014, 08:44 PM

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QUOTE(shiinkuro31 @ Jan 23 2014, 09:42 PM)
He's stupid fck because of favouritism; same thing happen to Casillas and Kaka.
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Casillas dropped because of form. his replacement..Carlo Ancelotti also use the backup GK earlier this season same decision with Jose...and Ozil perform better than Kaka.
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post Jan 23 2014, 08:58 PM

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QUOTE(shiinkuro31 @ Jan 23 2014, 09:53 PM)
I'm now online, not in a real world really.

You so furious I called Mourinho stupid fcuk. Another reason is ROONEY. Why?

It just I dont like Mourinho's tactical a second he returned to Chelsea.

I'm a Chelsea fan btw.
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Rooney what?

Its the best kind of football, you ever watch Real Madrid counter attack? we are progressing towards that.

but first step is to stop leaking goals. that is why we improve defensively first.

you are not a typical chelsea fan. tongue.gif
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post Jan 23 2014, 09:14 PM

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QUOTE(shiinkuro31 @ Jan 23 2014, 10:11 PM)
I'm going to rant like Piers Morgan when Wenger sold RVP to Manchester United, once Mata transfer is complete.
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yes please. and do it at twitter..because you said you want to rant like Piers Morgan right? he used twitter..
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post Jan 23 2014, 09:17 PM

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QUOTE(briantwj @ Jan 23 2014, 10:15 PM)
Bro, totally agree with the bolded part. What is important is we win trophies, no matter how many players we sign, no matter who we hire and sack. We wanna win trophies to fill the cabinet!
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yes..but it must be sensible, with reasons.

cant afford to act like that no more after the FFP.
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post Jan 23 2014, 10:22 PM

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QUOTE(Zeuss1220 @ Jan 23 2014, 11:17 PM)
Ya mang, heartbreaking.
Now i haz to photoshop a new siggy in sorrow  cry.gif  cry.gif
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i'm keeping mine. mata will always be part of the historic team that won european double. UCL and Europa. biggrin.gif

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post Jan 23 2014, 10:23 PM

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i'm preparing a very long-copy-paste article..wait ah..very important article..
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post Jan 23 2014, 10:26 PM

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Juan Mata another casualty of the "Mourinho way!

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First and foremost, who are we to question Jose Mourinho's judgement? One of the most successful managers in the game, decorated everywhere he has been and the man we asked to return!

In a recent interview (featured here) Jose Mourinho spoke with the BBC's "Football Focus" programme and stated the following:

"What I want my players to understand first of all is I work for the club and not for them. The club is more important than them, the team is more important than them and the moment they understand that, now yes, it's time to build a relation with them individually.

The ones that understand straight away that the team and the club are more important than them? They become the ones!"


Now I am not one to say that Juan Mata has in anyway demonstrated anything other than what Mourinho has said, but there was obviously a problem. Mourinho states openly above how he works and what he expects from his players and Juan Mata is about to be sold to Man United! It's not rocket science!

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When asked about the Mata situation this season and asked whether or not he could adapt the system we play to fit Mata into the side, he responded by saying:

"There are fantastic players but sometimes these players are fantastic to a certain system, playing a certain way and less fantastic in a different way of playing, a different model of play.

He is an unbelievable player, a fantastic boy and is trying to adapt. He is doing his best to adapt. He had some fine periods with us but he needs a little bit more to go in the direction we want to go.

To have Mata feeling I am on the bench and I don't play one single minute is hard. I like him very much, the club like him very much and we believe has a big role to play with us. We don't want him to go!"


Much has been said about The Mourinho Way but it's been there to see from day one. I was watching Chelsea TV the other day and they featured the Man Utd v Chelsea League Cup semi final second leg 2004-2005. The first leg finished 0-0 at the Bridge and Chelsea travelled to Old Trafford and won 2-1 on the night.

During the game Chelsea played their 4-3-3 formation with Robben, Drogba and Duff as the front three. Now throughout the game, the stint that Robbie and Duffer put into the game was immense both with and without the ball and both played a huge part in the win that day.

Now, it's the same situation. He demands and work ethic for the TEAM. As he said above, the team comes first and foremost.

Now the ongoing situation this season hasn't just been with Mata but also with Kevin De Bruyne and Eden Hazard so it's not just someone being singled out but the manager. He oversees the group collective and always talks of his players together so anyone he thinks doesn't play along like everyone else will be singled out.

Much has been made of Eden Hazard and his "reported" attitude to training when Mourinho first arrived. Then, Hazard had the episode missing training and was punished by the club and Mourinho and sat in the stands for a game.

Since then and I think you can all agree, Hazard has stepped up a level and is becoming an even better player than he was in his first season here. Just last week Hazard responded to reports that PSG were interested in offering silly money for his services in the summer by saying "there is no better place to learn other than Chelsea!" We can safely say that Hazard has turned things around and bought into The Mourinho Way.

Another to come under the microscope this season was Kevin De Bruyne. Now I haven't featured the KDB interview with the Belgian press after he left Chelsea last week but you can search for it on the net yourselves, he has had a pop at Mourinho which comes as no surprise.

Mourinho slated his performance against Swindon in the League Cup earlier in the season openly to the press. He challenged KDB and everyone else to raise their game and chose to do it in public. Whether that is to test the character and mentality of his players I am not so sure but the fact that KDB has left the club is your answer according to the manager.

So a combined figure of around £54m for the sale of Mata and KDB isn't bad business at all considering they have both hardly featured this season. Based on their purchase price, we would have made a profit of around £24m in the space of two years.

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So why on earth would Mourinho decide he could live without "El Mago (The Magician)" Juan Mata? Who does Mourinho see as his replacement?

Looking at our current squad, Oscar is the main man at Chelsea. Still very young and under the guidance of Mourinho to get better and better, Chelsea have a potential World Class player in the side. Don't get me wrong, Oscar is a class act but is by far the finished article at the moment.

It's Oscar's willingness to work off the ball that initially won Mourinho's affection. It's seems he was more than happy to embrace The Mourinho Way and we have seen the result on the pitch.

Willian has come into his own in recent months. He has taken time to settle down and get used to life in the Premier League but now he has, he has been different class. You'll note his work ethic of late. He too has bought into The Mourinho Way!

I see Willian as a potential number ten if Oscar gets injured. A present out wide and doing a fine job, Willian would be more than happy to step inside to dictate play from central midfield.

Now in light of the Mata move, there is more speculation that Chelsea will renew their interest in Wayne Rooney but are also being linked with a summer move for Ross Barkley of Everton and in this window Mohamed Salah of FC Basel who like Hernandez of United, always seems to score against us!

I am not 100% convinced with Barkley and see a move for Salah as one that I believe would suit our style. As I have stated above, signing Salah would enable Mourinho to bring Willian inside.

One thing the manager has here is options. We have a number of players who can fill different roles within the framework of the team. The manager is also able to change our formation and adapt the players to the new formation during a game.

Chelsea make no rash, ridiculous decisions here and you have to imagine they would have thought long and hard about letting Juan Mata go. If anything, Mourinho would have said to the player he would only allow him to leave if he requested to leave. It's seems that is the case in this instance.

One thing is for sure and it's important to remember. Chelsea Football Club have a plan, they have targets for the short and long term. Jose Mourinho has been given a working project and there are important steps to take along the way.

What we are seeing now is a demonstration of the club backing their manager 100% and that's important and such a good thing to see. What more can a manager ask but to have the people who have trusted him with their club demonstrate their faith in him!

It's about time those people that are venting their anger over Mata and the decision to sell him did the same!

Trust in Jose Mourinho and trust in Chelsea!

Carefree & KTBFFH!

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post Jan 23 2014, 10:45 PM

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QUOTE(raizo7 @ Jan 23 2014, 11:41 PM)
I really hope Mourinho knows what he's doing regarding Mata.
I believe most of us enjoy seeing the downfall of MU, but after not even a season, you guys ruin the party and decide to help them to rise again! tongue.gif

Well, I believe this has something to do with the FFP that kicks in this April. I heard that Essien is the next to go.
Nevertheless, 37m for a bench player is pretty good business tho.
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in moyes i trust. give him messi and ronaldo, he still can screw up.

well if we put it as bench players..its not that bad right? hahaha sell because he want to go..buy cheaper bench player and earn some profit.

yap essien rumors flying around for a few weeks already..if not this window..summer transfer there will be a major shake up of fringe players at the bridge.


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QUOTE(abusive123 @ Jan 24 2014, 12:04 AM)
what baffles me even more is how mata was sold before torres #comicalclub
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this freaking comical club is chelsea.

show some respect please.

enough with your comical post.

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QUOTE(abusive123 @ Jan 24 2014, 12:13 AM)
Respect??. Giving away our prized asset to the very people who hardballed us all summer and you're asking for respect? Lets give away Hazard while we're at it as well .We've stooped to a new low. End of story.
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damn..ak pergi mkn nasi kukus balik je

salah official..

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QUOTE(Kerplunk @ Jan 24 2014, 01:11 AM)
jangan salahkan diri sendiri bro. lagipun betul jugak decision ko makan nasi kukus. eating is important man~
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QUOTE(kucingmainan @ Jan 24 2014, 01:11 AM)
mata saudara tak salah melihat. kind of exciting that we steal liverpool prime target.

dont really know salah ability though except for the 2 goals we concede against basle.
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memang tak salah lagi. salah jd the blues.

salah satu sebab kenapa mata lambat announce.

sign salah first then announce mata..hoping that it will soften the blow to the fans. nice PR.

jom talk about salah ! semua ni salah anwar !!
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QUOTE(eeki @ Jan 24 2014, 01:12 AM)
still i dont see the purpose of salah purchase. redundant player.

this is kdb story-like again. buying young promising player at cheap price, and tend to sell at high price.
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as backup and increase the depth of the squad.

the way we can survive in FFP. no lost value from the player..we buy cheap sell high..earn profit..then reinvest..while keeping the core and important player around the club.

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