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post Jul 2 2006, 07:37 PM, updated 20y ago

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i just change my P4 2.6c to this new AMD 3500+ .. just what to know it this normal? AMD3500+ wit Xp90C max load temp-52c .did't OVERCLOCK le . last time i using p4 2.6c oc 3.25 the max load temp only 51c.. is there amd3500+ more hot then my old 2.6c?? or what?
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post Jul 2 2006, 08:06 PM

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Anyway, could it be the motherboard's sensor having problems?
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post Jul 2 2006, 08:27 PM

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Something is wrong, my xp-90c with Opty 170 300x10 full load only 42C.
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post Jul 2 2006, 08:31 PM

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It depends on what fan he is using with the heatsink.
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post Jul 2 2006, 08:37 PM

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yes. what fan did u attached to ur hsf smile.gif
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post Jul 2 2006, 11:12 PM

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QUOTE(ffrulz @ Jul 2 2006, 08:31 PM)
It depends on what fan he is using with the heatsink.
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QUOTE(kulus @ Jul 2 2006, 08:37 PM)
yes. what fan did u attached to ur hsf smile.gif
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i'm using thermaltake smart fan wit blue led. . rclxub.gif

motherboard's sensor having problems--> i don think so gua..??? cause it is new mobo n i update to lates bios already.. >_<

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post Jul 2 2006, 11:31 PM

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try you change the fan and see. or better else use back the stock heat sink and compare
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post Jul 2 2006, 11:32 PM

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ur not using everest to test the temp rite? y dun use same s/w to test it smile.gif
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post Jul 3 2006, 01:18 PM

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izzit ur bios reading is same with software reading for temperature?
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post Jul 3 2006, 02:05 PM

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QUOTE(siauann @ Jul 2 2006, 11:32 PM)
ur not using everest to test the temp rite? y dun use same s/w to test it  smile.gif
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QUOTE(kulus @ Jul 3 2006, 01:18 PM)
izzit ur bios reading is same with software reading for temperature?
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test already .. all same..
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post Jul 3 2006, 07:31 PM

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Have u ever lapped the base of the heatsink? thumbup.gif
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post Jul 3 2006, 08:05 PM

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dude, maybe theres no contact between ur hs n proc surface....
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post Jul 3 2006, 08:08 PM

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Easy thing, get DFI mobo..and u see your temp drop by around 8-10c. Perhaps that make u happier. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(sHawTY @ Jul 3 2006, 07:31 PM)
Have u ever lapped the base of the heatsink?  thumbup.gif
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actually, lapped hs n non-lapped has the same perfomance...just differ 1C oni...if the hs is from a well-known company, they shud hv lapped the hs for u... thumbup.gif
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post Jul 3 2006, 08:21 PM

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Check your heatsink base...
Maybe it's already turning to brownish...

Did you use themal paste? blink.gif
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post Jul 3 2006, 08:22 PM

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QUOTE(Guriseruda @ Jul 2 2006, 11:12 PM)
i'm using thermaltake smart fan wit blue led. .  rclxub.gif

motherboard's sensor having problems--> i don think so gua..??? cause it is new mobo n i update to lates bios already.. >_<
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Therein lies the problem, Mr Bond.

1. Position the temp diode of the fan in between the heatsink fins to get the fan to run at full speed.

2. Change to a not-so-funky-looking fan.. something from Nidec/NMB/Delta with high cfm airflow would be great.
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if i were to use thermaltake smart fan, i wouldn't use the thermo probe. prefer using the fan controller instead
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post Jul 7 2006, 12:29 AM

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QUOTE(sHawTY @ Jul 3 2006, 08:21 PM)
Check your heatsink base...
Maybe it's already turning to brownish...

Did you use themal paste?  blink.gif
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yes i have using themal paste.. cooler master 1.. http://www.coolermaster.com/index.php?LT=e...r_title=HTK-001
QUOTE(soulfly @ Jul 5 2006, 05:49 PM)
if i were to use thermaltake smart fan, i wouldn't use the thermo probe. prefer using the fan controller instead
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yap i uisng the fan controller.. speed set at around 2300rpm... more then this .. can't tahan the fan sound..

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then try running at max and see if the result is the same or not. copper hs needs alot of cfm to cool down.
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post Jul 7 2006, 04:01 AM

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get a strong fan .. afaik copper cooler need strong fan to kewl it down .. correct me if im wrong ..

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I think just the contact niah.... reinstall the heatsink ler. Don't terlebih with the thermal paste. The rice grain cliche cukup di
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post Jul 7 2006, 06:24 PM

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maybe i will go to buy the AC themal paste n try again.. >_< cause i buy the cooler master 1 is RM25 only... maybe it is too chep n no use... try another 1 1st..
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have u ever try touch ur heatsink wit ur fingers???

nope its not a joke... try it... if its around 50C or more... ur finger cant hold it... if u feel warm... its most likely below 50C...

*the reason is... there a some mobo wit stupid temp sensor even u have updated wit the latest bios... doh.gif

ps:beware if ur psu/pc got electric leakage... im not responsible if u got electric shock... whistling.gif
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QUOTE(alvarez_ @ Jul 7 2006, 10:26 PM)
have u ever try touch ur heatsink wit ur fingers???

nope its not a joke... try it... if its around 50C or more... ur finger cant hold it... if u feel warm... its most likely below 50C...

*the reason is... there a some mobo wit stupid temp sensor even u have updated wit the latest bios...  doh.gif

ps:beware if ur psu/pc got electric leakage... im not responsible if u got electric shock...  whistling.gif
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QUOTE(Guriseruda @ Jul 7 2006, 06:24 PM)
maybe i will go to buy the AC themal paste n try again.. >_< cause i buy the cooler master 1 is RM25 only... maybe it is too chep n no use... try another 1 1st..
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I'm seeing the Coolermaster Thermal COmpound is the culprit here. It has a rather ' hard plasticky' texture, making it hard to be applied. U need to physically 'heat' up the thermal compound by soaking it it hot water. Try removing it completely and replace with other compound.
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QUOTE(kucingfight @ Jul 8 2006, 12:10 AM)
I'm seeing the Coolermaster Thermal COmpound is the culprit here. It has a rather ' hard plasticky' texture, making it hard to be applied. U need to physically 'heat' up the thermal compound by soaking it it hot water. Try removing it completely and replace with other compound.
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Then, just go for ARCTIC SILVER 5 Then... thumbup.gif
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post Jul 10 2006, 10:13 PM

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yap planing to buy it.ARCTIC SILVER 5. but no money now.. >_<
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post Aug 8 2006, 07:33 PM

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all big boss here.. last time i'm using coolermaster themal paste.. now already change to Arctic Silver5 buy from lowyat overclocker's paradies shop.. but the CPU temp still same... >_< WTF... the Arctic Silver5 have fake 1 ah?
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QUOTE(Guriseruda @ Aug 8 2006, 07:33 PM)
all big boss here.. last time i'm using coolermaster themal paste.. now already  change to Arctic Silver5 buy from lowyat overclocker's paradies shop.. but the CPU temp still same... >_< WTF... the Arctic Silver5 have fake 1 ah?
for thermal paste, AS5 needed some time to cure down, that's when you get the best of it.

what really matter is the heatsink. don't expect 5'C difference with just changing thermal paste.
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could be ur mobo, i usung biostar with my watercooling kit which contain dual fan radiator and apogee block and d5 pump yet still the temp for my opty 144 after oc 50c at load using speedfan4.28, but 44c using core temp to take readings... probaly mobo sensors.. plus i heard tht dfi report lower temp using smartguardian, i recommend u core temp or speedfan 4.29 to take the readings cause speedfan 4.29 gt one reading call core which is same as core temp...
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errr...stupid question...but ur air flow chun o not???

if too many fan but cacat airflow oso can kacao one...

to test...try open ur case and run n see...then slowly adjust ur intake and exhaust flow...

btw did u apply the right usage of AS5?...the rice grain cliche is the most practiced...
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QUOTE(soulfly @ Aug 8 2006, 07:44 PM)
for thermal paste, AS5 needed some time to cure down, that's when you get the best of it.

what really matter is the heatsink. don't expect 5'C difference with just changing thermal paste.
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ok i wait n see

QUOTE(lichyetan @ Aug 8 2006, 07:52 PM)
could be ur mobo, i usung biostar with my watercooling kit which contain dual fan radiator and apogee block and d5 pump yet still the temp for my opty 144 after oc 50c at load using speedfan4.28, but 44c using core temp to take readings... probaly mobo sensors.. plus i heard tht dfi report lower temp using smartguardian, i recommend u core temp or speedfan 4.29 to take the readings cause speedfan 4.29 gt one reading call core which is same as core temp...
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mm.. i try it..

QUOTE(a_yu_volution @ Aug 8 2006, 08:58 PM)
errr...stupid question...but ur air flow chun o not???

if too many fan but cacat airflow oso can kacao one...

to test...try open ur case and run n see...then slowly adjust ur intake and exhaust flow...

btw did u apply the right usage of AS5?...the rice grain cliche is the most practiced...
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my air flow sure damn good liau... depan 1=120mm & 1= 80mm fan.. belakang 1= 120mm .. bawah 2= 80mm fan no place to put fan anymore...
n yap i apply right liau....

n want to ask in market have fake AC5 ?
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i heard biostar temp got issue even ur have flash to latest bios.
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post Aug 9 2006, 01:37 AM

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wats ur temp open case???
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maybe the last thing u should do it try to get a thermocouple setup..hurm, i only using it while in manufacturing group when i in Sony production corp..they use thermocouple which easy to install..based on electrothermomagnetic (izzit? ah~ sudah lupa the term suddenly sad.gif )

using a real time hardware is really efficient..u can calibrate it via testing it with hot water...since water only max to 100celcius temp..but i will give u a very fussy prosidures...hurm..
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ah~ btw my pc temp is 58~59 for full load using the same proc as ur and rite now running on stock cooling hsf only~ hehe afterward will change to xp90c oso...still waiting my xp90c to arrive smile.gif
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Does this hsf support am2 mobo coz planning to upgrade to am2
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QUOTE(fd_magnuz @ Aug 10 2006, 03:42 PM)
Does this hsf support am2 mobo coz planning to upgrade to am2
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am2 socket 940 rite?? if so..the hsf support am2 proc smile.gif btw..conroe rock rite now~ didn't interested?? rclxm9.gif
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QUOTE(G-ShoCk @ Aug 11 2006, 01:55 AM)
am2 socket 940 rite?? if so..the hsf support am2 proc smile.gif btw..conroe rock rite now~ didn't interested??  rclxm9.gif
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Conroe rocks but it rocks my pocket too heh..might consider that proc too if got xtra $$

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QUOTE(fd_magnuz @ Aug 16 2006, 02:56 PM)
Conroe rocks but it rocks my pocket too heh..might consider that proc too if got xtra $$
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HAHA.. last time i also planing upgrand my pc from P4 2.6c to conroe but same reason wit u so change to AMD3500+... now save money planing to change to conroe end of next year,,.. heh he..

so back to topil.. the XP-90C can use some "gel" to "lap" it or not ah?

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Bro try reseating the processor, fix my friend pc temp by that way -> drop from 55 to 45.
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QUOTE(izzNatta @ Aug 19 2006, 12:18 AM)
Bro try reseating the processor, fix my friend pc temp by that way -> drop from 55 to 45.
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try liua,, still same.. >_<
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Use core temp software and see.
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post Aug 24 2006, 01:54 PM

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use liau.. still same. .>_>
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A few questions I need to ask.

#1. What motherboard monitor you are using?
#2. Was the heatsink used before? If yes, did you clean the base properly, preferably lapped to mirror finish and cleaned with isopropyl alcohol/zippo fluid/articlean/googone?
#3. Has the base plastic retention bracket for the heatsink been mounted down firmly with the screws provided?
#4. Have you made sure mounting was done properly with a small drop of AS5 on the IHs and the retention clip inserted evenly at the side which does not have the release mechanism?
#5. Was the proc used before? If yes, did you clean the IHS properly with the abovementioned fluids?

Those 5 questions will lead to a proper answer from me

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post Aug 26 2006, 03:39 AM

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#1. What motherboard monitor you are using?
Asus prob, Asus AIboost, EVEREST Ultimate Edition
#2. Was the heatsink used before? If yes, did you clean the base properly, preferably lapped to mirror finish and cleaned with isopropyl alcohol/zippo fluid/articlean/googone?
yes the heatsink use before wit my P4 2.6c, yes i clean the base properly..
#3. Has the base plastic retention bracket for the heatsink been mounted down firmly with the screws provided?
YES, double check liau
#4. Have you made sure mounting was done properly with a small drop of AS5 on the IHs and the retention clip inserted evenly at the side which does not have the release mechanism?
YES
#5. Was the proc used before? If yes, did you clean the IHS properly with the abovementioned fluids?
no.. new proc..


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QUOTE(Guriseruda @ Aug 26 2006, 03:39 AM)
#1. What motherboard monitor you are using?
Asus prob, Asus AIboost, EVEREST Ultimate Edition
#2. Was the heatsink used before? If yes, did you clean the base properly, preferably lapped to mirror finish and cleaned with isopropyl alcohol/zippo fluid/articlean/googone?
yes the heatsink use before wit my P4 2.6c, yes i clean the base properly..
#3. Has the base plastic retention bracket for the heatsink been mounted down firmly with the screws provided?
YES, double check liau
#4. Have you made sure mounting was done properly with a small drop of AS5 on the IHs and the retention clip inserted evenly at the side which does not have the release mechanism?
YES
#5. Was the proc used before? If yes, did you clean the IHS properly with the abovementioned fluids?
no.. new proc..
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Here's a few suggestions which one of it will work (If it doesn't we're in for a long debugging session)

#1. Try using MBM5 with the correct config files found over at DFI-street (Yes they do work across the board for nF3/4)

#2. Clean again this time making sure there's no trace left using alcohol (a bit of trace left is enough)

#3. Reapply thermal paste properly

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QUOTE(fd_magnuz @ Aug 10 2006, 03:42 PM)
Does this hsf support am2 mobo coz planning to upgrade to am2
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Yes u can provided u using it with Thermalright AM2 rev-B bracket.
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Try this, place your fingers on the heatsink with the CPU's in stressed. That, you would know if it's "hot" or simple the bios reporting high temps

 

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