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post Jan 2 2014, 08:08 PM, updated 12y ago

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Some of you might not be aware of the Fiio X5, and here are some images for you
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I am very (and i mean VERY VERY) proud to tell you that I am the only1 of 2 Malaysian LYN forumer chosen by Fiio to do the test on the Fioo X5 player before it gets outside of the China market sales.So, be patient, and wait for their arrangements, and I'll be back with the review of the Fiio X5

at the meantime, read on about the Fiio X5, a DAC + Player that supports DSD with dual microSD slots
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post Jan 2 2014, 08:26 PM

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The otg mean can play song from USB drive and external hard disk?
The USB DAC does support android device? Want to use with tablet.
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Congrats, i have a feeling it'll be better than the AK100 smile.gif
I'll be skipping this and looking forward to the X7 and DX90.
My interest for Calyx has waned a bit.. and definitely not going near the AK240 considering i won't even pay that much for the AK120
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QUOTE(wkkm007 @ Jan 2 2014, 08:26 PM)
The otg mean can play song from USB drive and external hard disk?
The USB DAC does support android device? Want to use with tablet.
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usb dac like x3, usb otg like current android connection structure
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QUOTE(noobandroid @ Jan 2 2014, 09:12 PM)
usb dac like x3, usb otg like current android connection structure
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post Jan 3 2014, 02:51 PM

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woooo..

any idea how's the pricing will be? smile.gif
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post Jan 3 2014, 02:55 PM

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QUOTE(dokidoki @ Jan 2 2014, 11:01 PM)
hehe..not the only malaysian tongue.gif doki81 is also malaysian but reside in SG currently tongue.gif

i am doki81~ keke
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lu register SG so lu in SG list tongue.gif lu not malaysian in his view hha

QUOTE(G_KeN @ Jan 3 2014, 02:51 PM)
woooo..

any idea how's the pricing will be? smile.gif
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i remember something like USD350
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post Jan 3 2014, 02:58 PM

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QUOTE(noobandroid @ Jan 3 2014, 02:55 PM)
lu register SG so lu in SG list tongue.gif lu not malaysian in his view hha
i remember something like USD350
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residing in SG..but malaysian tongue.gif

anyway..i think we will be sharing the same review unit for SEA? not sure joe will start it from where....

i will try to compare it against my x3, dx50 and then try to pair the 1st 2 with e12diy then vs X5..hope it is good...maybe time to let go either my x3 or dx50...haha
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QUOTE(dokidoki @ Jan 3 2014, 02:58 PM)
residing in SG..but malaysian tongue.gif

anyway..i think we will be sharing the same review unit for SEA? not sure joe will start it from where....

i will try to compare it against my x3, dx50 and then try to pair the 1st 2 with e12diy then vs X5..hope it is good...maybe time to let go either my x3 or dx50...haha
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I'm thinking Joe might ask all the SG to do the review in a group, as majority resides within SG, so they can run reviews in a group. The list really makes SG applicants look like a group, like Team Tokyo, a team.

SG reviewers really populated the SEA group
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QUOTE(noobandroid @ Jan 3 2014, 03:05 PM)
I'm thinking Joe might ask all the SG to do the review in a group, as majority resides within SG, so they can run reviews in a group. The list really makes SG applicants look like a group, like Team Tokyo, a team.

SG reviewers really populated the SEA group
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initial idea is each reviewer keep the unit for 5 days...then pass on to next reviewer...cos if in group but only 1 player...how to share? smile.gif
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QUOTE(dokidoki @ Jan 3 2014, 03:10 PM)
initial idea is each reviewer keep the unit for 5 days...then pass on to next reviewer...cos if in group but only 1 player...how to share? smile.gif
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meet up at a place, all test, discuss, go home do own review job, DONE! tongue.gif
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OMG REVIEW PLSSS ...... with that said ibasso is coming up with a DX90.... choices everywhere.... hmmm..
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post Jan 3 2014, 09:43 PM

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interested to see how the SQ of X5 will justify its double price tag than the X3.. else, i'm just gonna stick with X3 and wait for X7.
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post Jan 6 2014, 02:02 PM

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seem like noobandroid will be review the x5 first smile.gif haha
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post Jan 6 2014, 02:16 PM

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yeah, the route is set for me 1st, vietnam direct down to me is closer

oh btw, the actual prototype spotted in akihabara
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congratz both of you rclxms.gif thumbup.gif
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post Jan 8 2014, 08:02 AM

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instead of the original review time of 5 days, i get an extended 10 days to review the x5 now
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post Jan 12 2014, 03:24 PM

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Review not yet done? biggrin.gif
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post Jan 12 2014, 03:27 PM

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QUOTE(un_id @ Jan 12 2014, 03:24 PM)
Review not yet done? biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(un_id @ Jan 12 2014, 03:24 PM)
Review not yet done? biggrin.gif
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Give us another month, it might be done then
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post Jan 21 2014, 09:49 PM

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QUOTE(noobandroid @ Jan 12 2014, 06:33 PM)
Give us another month, it might be done then
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QUOTE(E1 - AKG @ Jan 21 2014, 09:49 PM)
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pre-order came in end of march right?..

i am requesting fiio and see if they are able to arrange another unit to come over SG...

E1 singapore keen to do the review of the unit? smile.gif
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QUOTE(dokidoki @ Jan 21 2014, 10:13 PM)
pre-order came in end of march right?..

i am requesting fiio and see if they are able to arrange another unit to come over SG...

E1 singapore keen to do the review of the unit? smile.gif
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just arrived for demo sweat.gif

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QUOTE(E1 - AKG @ Jan 21 2014, 11:09 PM)
just arrived for demo  sweat.gif

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I'm from Singapore .. would love to do a review on the x5 !

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QUOTE(dokidoki @ Jan 21 2014, 10:13 PM)
pre-order came in end of march right?..

i am requesting fiio and see if they are able to arrange another unit to come over SG...

E1 singapore keen to do the review of the unit? smile.gif
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QUOTE(E1 - AKG @ Jan 21 2014, 11:09 PM)
just arrived for demo  sweat.gif

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wuuhuu.. can you post pic for size comparison? it seems quite bulky.. can put side by side with iphone? wanna see
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QUOTE(un_id @ Jan 24 2014, 08:43 AM)
wuuhuu.. can you post pic for size comparison? it seems quite bulky.. can put side by side with iphone? wanna see
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not really that bulky...it shd be just slightly bigger than the ipod classic smile.gif

or if you have fiio e12...it's almost same size as e12 but thicker by few mm..
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Fiio caught me by surprise biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(dokidoki @ Jan 24 2014, 04:20 PM)
Fiio caught me by surprise biggrin.gif

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nice player, it looks quite similar to the old x3 ...
but nevermind, interested to read the reviews from you soon...

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QUOTE(nicholostan @ Jan 24 2014, 04:57 PM)
nice player, it looks quite similar to the old x3 ...
but nevermind, interested to read the reviews from you soon...
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overall built..this x5 is above x3 by 2 level...haha smile.gif
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line up of my so so standard dap tongue.gif no $$ to buy ak100/120 sad.gif but i think X5 is on par of ak100/120.. with cheaper price tag biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(dokidoki @ Jan 26 2014, 05:10 PM)
line up of my so so standard dap tongue.gif no $$ to buy ak100/120 sad.gif but i think X5 is on par of ak100/120.. with cheaper price tag biggrin.gif

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Wuhuu are you my clone? The line up is exactly as was mine.. X3, ipod classic and I also using Sony smartphone (XZU).. I just haven't put my hands on x5 only yet. Lol. laugh.gif

Eagerly waiting for your reviews guys
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QUOTE(un_id @ Jan 26 2014, 05:49 PM)
Wuhuu are you my clone? The line up is exactly as was mine.. X3, ipod classic and I also using Sony smartphone (XZU).. I just haven't put my hands on x5 only yet. Lol. laugh.gif

Eagerly waiting for your reviews guys
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i dont own any ipod classic sad.gif

the picture is X3+e12diy , ibasso dx50, x5 and xz tongue.gif

my review is 80% done...very positive so far...
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QUOTE(dokidoki @ Jan 26 2014, 10:12 PM)
i dont own any ipod classic sad.gif

the picture is X3+e12diy , ibasso dx50, x5 and xz tongue.gif

my review is 80% done...very positive so far...
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opps, i thought your DX50 is an iPod classic.. LOL laugh.gif

i've let go my X3 due to i found its kinda hard to navigate the large music library.. and the native sound signature of the X3 is not my cup of tea.. Gonna stay with this set up for the time being until I have a chance to try X5, or I would probably wait for Sony ZX1, hope the price will not overkill. sweat.gif or wait for X7? hmm.gif

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QUOTE(un_id @ Jan 26 2014, 10:31 PM)
opps, i thought your DX50 is an iPod classic.. LOL laugh.gif

i've let go my X3 due to i found its kinda hard to navigate the large music library.. and the native sound signature of the X3 is not my cup of tea.. Gonna stay with this set up for the time being until I have a chance to try X5, or I would probably wait for Sony ZX1, hope the price will not overkill. sweat.gif or wait for X7?  hmm.gif

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XZ1 Msia price most likely btw RM2200-RM2800. Would that be ok? smile.gif
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QUOTE(Lego Warfare @ Jan 27 2014, 07:56 AM)
XZ1 Msia price most likely btw RM2200-RM2800. Would that be ok? smile.gif
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QUOTE(Lego Warfare @ Jan 27 2014, 07:56 AM)
XZ1 Msia price most likely btw RM2200-RM2800. Would that be ok? smile.gif
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xz1 going to launch in sg at 899sgd...but i dont think i will go for it....

since no memory expansion and no line out for it...
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QUOTE(dokidoki @ Jan 27 2014, 10:53 AM)
xz1 going to launch in sg at 899sgd...but i dont think i will go for it....

since no memory expansion and no line out for it...
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who need lineout if the internal amp is really very good as what Sony claimed... to me, the whole point of getting an audiophile grade DAP is to avoid clinging another bulky external amp, to be ultra portable.. thus why i sold off my X3, due to i still use an amp with it.. do you need more than 128gb storage? wow, my music library is less than 100gb only (not includes the crap mp3s la)
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QUOTE(un_id @ Jan 27 2014, 11:43 AM)
who need lineout if the internal amp is really very good as what Sony claimed... to me, the whole point of getting an audiophile grade DAP is to avoid clinging another bulky external amp, to be ultra portable.. thus why i sold off my X3, due to i still use an amp with it.. do you need more than 128gb storage? wow, my music library is less than 100gb only (not includes the crap mp3s la)
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i think if the internal amp is good....sony wouldnt need to release pha-1 and 2 ....since it's using sony walkman player...i think the sound signature will be roughly like our handphone sony xz..

and it dont have any high gain low gain switch...

i will just wait for x5 officially release and then maybe dx90..but i kinda lost faith abit on ibasso as their UI is always half baked....


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QUOTE(dokidoki @ Jan 27 2014, 11:48 AM)
i think if the internal amp is good....sony wouldnt need to release pha-1 and 2 ....since it's using sony walkman player...i think the sound signature will be roughly like our handphone sony xz..

and it dont have any high gain low gain switch...

i will just wait for x5 officially release and then maybe dx90..but i kinda lost faith abit on ibasso as their UI is always half baked....
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aiya, doesn't make sense la if SQ like the XZ phones.. my XZU sounds not good leh.. sad.gif for a DAP priced almost RM3k, don't tell me the SQ is just mediocre, Sony!.. vmad.gif

will have to auditioned it first see how

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QUOTE(un_id @ Jan 27 2014, 11:51 AM)
aiya, doesn't make sense la if SQ like the XZ phones.. my XZU sounds not good leh.. sad.gif for a DAP priced almost RM3k, don't tell me the SQ is just mediocre, Sony!..  vmad.gif

will have to auditioned it first see how
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u try audition X5 first..then u audition xz1~ smile.gif
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QUOTE(dokidoki @ Jan 27 2014, 12:00 PM)
u try audition X5 first..then u audition xz1~ smile.gif
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QUOTE(un_id @ Jan 27 2014, 12:06 PM)
ya ya, wonder where can find a loaner unit  laugh.gif
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yes, IINM ZX1 got line out.

http://www.amazon.com/FiiO-L5-Line-Cable-W...n/dp/B003UCI2CI

http://www.fiio.com.cn/products/index.aspx...enuID=105026015


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QUOTE(phillip88 @ Jan 27 2014, 02:19 PM)
only particular brand have it..cannot get the custom 3.5 to 3.5 ... sad.gif
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Correct too ... Not as flexible as iPod LOD...
or i think got la. many ppl mod custom LOD for it... Just that it's full set AFAIK. Not the adapter only.
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When this launches in March/April I guess stocks would be very limited considering all the hype and anticipation the consumer mass are having now.

Normally which LYN seller would bring in FiiO products first? Planning to pay a deposit first to secure my unit. Or am I being paranoid about the whole limited X5 units thingy?
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QUOTE(Enilyks34 @ Jan 27 2014, 04:34 PM)
When this launches in March/April I guess stocks would be very limited considering all the hype and anticipation the consumer mass are having now.

Normally which LYN seller would bring in FiiO products first? Planning to pay a deposit first to secure my unit. Or am I being paranoid about the whole limited X5 units thingy?
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QUOTE(Enilyks34 @ Jan 27 2014, 04:34 PM)
When this launches in March/April I guess stocks would be very limited considering all the hype and anticipation the consumer mass are having now.

Normally which LYN seller would bring in FiiO products first? Planning to pay a deposit first to secure my unit. Or am I being paranoid about the whole limited X5 units thingy?
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QUOTE(un_id @ Jan 27 2014, 08:01 AM)
Below 2.5k I can consider. 2.5k my cut off limit.. If below 2k confirm buy laugh.gif hope Sony will produce storage vvariants, not just 128gb
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I think it's fixed at 128GB.

BTW, how to be less than 2k when overseas is already selling around 2.3k?

QUOTE(un_id @ Jan 27 2014, 11:43 AM)
who need lineout if the internal amp is really very good as what Sony claimed... to me, the whole point of getting an audiophile grade DAP is to avoid clinging another bulky external amp, to be ultra portable.. thus why i sold off my X3, due to i still use an amp with it.. do you need more than 128gb storage? wow, my music library is less than 100gb only (not includes the crap mp3s la)
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If your collection is mainly MP3s, the ZX-1 is a little overkill and will sound just marginally better than say a DX50.

Anyway, users claim that the ZX-1 is best paired with the PHA-2.

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aiya, doesn't make sense la if SQ like the XZ phones.. my XZU sounds not good leh.. sad.gif for a DAP priced almost RM3k, don't tell me the SQ is just mediocre, Sony!..  vmad.gif

will have to auditioned it first see how
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From user feedbacks, a lot of people prefer the ZX-1 better than the AK120.

QUOTE(phillip88 @ Jan 27 2014, 02:44 PM)
Correct too ... Not as flexible as iPod LOD...
or i think got la. many ppl mod custom LOD for it... Just that it's full set AFAIK. Not the adapter only.
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QUOTE(jchue73 @ Jan 27 2014, 06:07 PM)
I think it's fixed at 128GB.

BTW, how to be less than 2k when overseas is already selling around 2.3k?
If your collection is mainly MP3s, the ZX-1 is a little overkill and will sound just marginally better than say a DX50.

Anyway, users claim that the ZX-1 is best paired with the PHA-2.
From user feedbacks, a lot of people prefer the ZX-1 better than the AK120.
Yup. You don't see a lot of custom WMPort cables around.
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What's the point of having high end DAP but stuff in crap MP3s.. laugh.gif My fav collection is mostly FLAC or at least 320p.. That's just below 100gb only. Songs that I frequently listened to enough to aaccommodate 64gb SDcard.. Other than that just listened on desktop la.. Never tried AK120, but if user claimed that ZX1 is better, i guess tthat's pretty promising
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QUOTE(un_id @ Jan 27 2014, 06:55 PM)
What's the point of having high end DAP but stuff in crap MP3s.. laugh.gif My fav collection is mostly FLAC or at least 320p.. That's just below 100gb only. Songs that I frequently listened to enough to aaccommodate 64gb SDcard..  Other than that just listened on desktop la.. Never tried AK120, but if user claimed that ZX1 is better, i guess tthat's pretty promising
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If you're gonna play FLAC, then ok lah.

For me, I'm actually undecided. AK120 is out of reach. I'm looking more into AK100 Mk2. I'm tempted with the ZX-1. I like the sleek metal design and the fact that it runs Android but it's still expensive and not to mention a little more bulky than the AK100 / AK120. If I'm gonna use an amp, it's only limited to their PHA-2. sad.gif
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What's the point of having high end DAP but stuff in crap MP3s.. laugh.gif My fav collection is mostly FLAC or at least 320p.. That's just below 100gb only. Songs that I frequently listened to enough to aaccommodate 64gb SDcard..  Other than that just listened on desktop la.. Never tried AK120, but if user claimed that ZX1 is better, i guess tthat's pretty promising
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If you're gonna play FLAC, then ok lah.

For me, I'm actually undecided. AK120 is out of reach. I'm looking more into AK100 Mk2. I'm tempted with the ZX-1. I like the sleek metal design and the fact that it runs Android but it's still expensive and not to mention a little more bulky than the AK100 / AK120. If I'm gonna use an amp, it's only limited to their PHA-2.  sad.gif
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There are a few who said the F886 is sonically similar to ZX1, so go figure. I've tested the F886, and i'm sure you can too if you visit some Sony Centres. And to me there wasn't anything special in the SQ. Mind you this was in a shopping mall using their stock sample songs, so my impression doesn't count. Would be glad to try it again with my own stuffs in a quieter environment. However the UI is very very nice, that is the one thing which was quite tempting =P

*Most have commented on the weak amp in ZX1, so if you're planning to drive harder to drive cans, prepare to get an amp.

Btw, with Wifi capability internal storage isn't much of an issue if you have apps/devices which allows you remote streaming from home. (providing you have wifi)
This gives you almost unlimited storage depending on how many hard disks you have =D


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I always wonder what is it so special about ZX1, or even F886 that make people go out and buy them? I mean the output power is comparable to Clip+ and 24/192 in itself isn't anything new. Touch screen is nice but I already have my smartphone. For the huge price tags they don't really do anything out of the ordinary. If I were to spend that much money, I would have expect at least a solid amp section to begin with. Well, that's pretty much the same rant I have with AK100. Beside sleekness, I see very little value in it.
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Honestly speaking most of the the head-fiers are very biased towards AK due to their pricing. So best if you decide for yourselves wink.gif
There are a few who said the F886 is sonically similar to ZX1, so go figure. I've tested the F886, and i'm sure you can too if you visit some Sony Centres. And to me there wasn't anything special in the SQ. Mind you this was in a shopping mall using their stock sample songs, so my impression doesn't count. Would be glad to try it again with my own stuffs in a quieter environment. However the UI is very very nice, that is the one thing which was quite tempting =P

*Most have commented on the weak amp in ZX1, so if you're planning to drive harder to drive cans, prepare to get an amp.

Btw, with Wifi capability internal storage isn't much of an issue if you have apps/devices which allows you remote streaming from home. (providing you have wifi)
This gives you almost unlimited storage depending on how many hard disks you have =D
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for me..i am not 'wow' by xz1 interface as it seen like my sony xz hp interface..haha
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QUOTE(ClieOS @ Jan 27 2014, 08:44 PM)
I always wonder what is it so special about ZX1, or even F886 that make people go out and buy them? I mean the output power is comparable to Clip+ and 24/192 in itself isn't anything new. Touch screen is nice but I already have my smartphone. For the huge price tags they don't really do anything out of the ordinary. If I were to spend that much money, I would have expect at least a solid amp section to begin with. Well, that's pretty much the same rant I have with AK100. Beside sleekness, I see very little value in it.
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speaking of that, to me, main reason why i keep lurking for audiophile DAP, due to i want to possibly eliminate DAP+clinging interconnect+amp combination.. but hearing your rant, should we conclude that, for the time being, we still can't escape from a portable amp? well, honestly, i never try own a super expensive DAP such as the AK100/120 or C4 etc.. actually my first bet to audiophile DAP was the X3, and thats driven by many praises from what i read in forums.. but in reality, the X3 is far from capable to feed my portable music need (well i thought it could if i want to use it just for a move or very casual, but recently mu lust on music always want something "acceptable" to my ears, even for casual usage.. maybe i'm quite emotional recently.. lol).... in the end, still a Vestamp attached to it.. yeah i do agree, sleekness/outlook do attracts me, but at the end of the day, the sounds that matters most.. if i were to buy ZX1 just yet again to pair it with another amp, then i rather stick with my current ipod+porta tube set up..
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QUOTE(un_id @ Jan 27 2014, 09:51 PM)
speaking of that, to me, main reason why i keep lurking for audiophile DAP, due to i want to possibly eliminate DAP+clinging interconnect+amp combination.. but hearing your rant, should we conclude that, for the time being, we still can't escape from a portable amp? well, honestly, i never try own a super expensive DAP such as the AK100/120 or C4 etc.. actually my first bet to audiophile DAP was the X3, and thats driven by many praises from what i read in forums.. but in reality, the X3 is far from capable to feed my portable music need (well i thought it could if i want to use it just for a move or very casual, but recently mu lust on music always want something "acceptable" to my ears, even for casual usage.. maybe i'm quite emotional recently.. lol).... in the end, still a Vestamp attached to it.. yeah i do agree, sleekness/outlook do attracts me, but at the end of the day, the sounds that matters most.. if i were to buy ZX1 just yet again to pair it with another amp, then i rather stick with my current ipod+porta tube set up..
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X3 is probably one of the most power DAP there is (well, beside X5 anyway), but it does suffer from the warm sound. I reckon FiiO has gotten X5 to a very ideal place. It is totally neutral and it is more powerful than most portable amp. Of course it still won't drive 600 ohm headphone very well but I don't think there ain't that many people who carry those headphone for portable use any way. I was listening to X5 pairing with E12DIY yesterday and concluded that the benefit of carrying an extra amp is pretty much not there. As mush as I love the E12DIY (I have the MUSES02 in it), X5 is just as capable. It is one of the rare occasion where you have a DAP with good output, excellent SQ and yet doesn't cost an arm and leg. Color me impressed. Now why can't companies that charge double / triple the price design the some thing similar? I am not asking ZX-1 to be as powerful as an X5, but at least gives it a decent 50~100mW output which would have warranted the price tag
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X3 is probably one of the most power DAP there is (well, beside X5 anyway), but it does suffer from the warm sound. I reckon FiiO has gotten X5 to a very ideal place. It is totally neutral and it is more powerful than most portable amp. Of course it still won't drive 600 ohm headphone very well but I don't think there ain't that many people who carry those headphone for portable use any way. I was listening to X5 pairing with E12DIY yesterday and concluded that the benefit of carrying an extra amp is pretty much not there. As mush as I love the E12DIY (I have the MUSES02 in it), X5 is just as capable. It is one of the rare occasion where you have a DAP with good output, excellent SQ and yet doesn't cost an arm and leg. Color me impressed. Now why can't companies that charge double / triple the price design the some thing similar? I am not asking ZX-1 to be as powerful as an X5, but at least gives it a decent 50~100mW output which would have warranted the price tag
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QUOTE(dokidoki @ Jan 27 2014, 09:00 PM)
have you own any recent sony hp?

for me..i am not 'wow' by xz1 interface as it seen like my sony xz hp interface..haha
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Honestly, the biggest point of not having to buy an expensive DAP is my own individual inability to hear/perceive any difference from one device to another.

Well, my point is, I admire those who can hear the difference. Haha XD
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QUOTE(phillip88 @ Jan 27 2014, 10:44 PM)
Honestly, the biggest point of not having to buy an expensive DAP is my own individual inability to hear/perceive any difference from one device to another.

Well, my point is, I admire those who can hear the difference. Haha XD
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QUOTE(E1 - AKG @ Jan 27 2014, 11:12 PM)
Good for your pocket  rclxms.gif  Bad for the economy  sweat.gif
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Boss, that doesn't count if my ego is too big that I have to own it besides SQ issue... brows.gif
Like... its design is super cool? And also maybe I somehow convinced to "hear" the improvement after reading so many reviews online?
Haha. If I'm very practical, I guess I won't be spending so much on audio gears already blush.gif

Anyway, can't wait for X5. Finally Fiio did something which really looks like iPod icon_idea.gif
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QUOTE(phillip88 @ Jan 27 2014, 11:31 PM)
Boss, that doesn't count if my ego is too big that I have to own it besides SQ issue... brows.gif
Like... its design is super cool? And also maybe I somehow convinced to "hear" the improvement after reading so many reviews online?
Haha. If I'm very practical, I guess I won't be spending so much on audio gears already  blush.gif

Anyway, can't wait for X5. Finally Fiio did something which really looks like iPod  icon_idea.gif
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QUOTE(ClieOS @ Jan 27 2014, 10:26 PM)
X3 is probably one of the most power DAP there is (well, beside X5 anyway), but it does suffer from the warm sound. I reckon FiiO has gotten X5 to a very ideal place. It is totally neutral and it is more powerful than most portable amp. Of course it still won't drive 600 ohm headphone very well but I don't think there ain't that many people who carry those headphone for portable use any way. I was listening to X5 pairing with E12DIY yesterday and concluded that the benefit of carrying an extra amp is pretty much not there. As mush as I love the E12DIY (I have the MUSES02 in it), X5 is just as capable. It is one of the rare occasion where you have a DAP with good output, excellent SQ and yet doesn't cost an arm and leg. Color me impressed. Now why can't companies that charge double / triple the price design the some thing similar? I am not asking ZX-1 to be as powerful as an X5, but at least gives it a decent 50~100mW output which would have warranted the price tag
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my review for X5 is published smile.gif

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Up on my blog with permission too
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hope you guys like it...even my cant cover everything as the review time i have is quite short...really hope i can get 1 soon sad.gif
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hope you guys like it...even my cant cover everything as the review time i have is quite short...really hope i can get 1 soon sad.gif
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QUOTE(noobandroid @ Jan 28 2014, 02:30 PM)
That unit is not from fiio arrangement right ?
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QUOTE(dokidoki @ Jan 28 2014, 02:41 PM)
arh..yes...Joe decided to give SG team a separate review unit after much persuasion from me tongue.gif and SG review team now have 6 persons...i am gonna pass my review unit to the 2nd reviewer by tomorrow..
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Lol then no need send to sg d then that selangor guy
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hope you guys like it...even my cant cover everything as the review time i have is quite short...really hope i can get 1 soon sad.gif
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in your opinion, is X5 good to be used standalone without amping?
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in your opinion, is X5 good to be used standalone without amping?
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btw pre-order price announced at RM1450, like.. wow..

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those tried it said it's implementation is better than x3, who knows it might be true

btw pre-order price announced at RM1450, like.. wow..
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i was expecting below 1k sweat.gif
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but X5 alone is good enough thumbup.gif

the price for SG pre-order is already set at 479...
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yes...X3 need to pair with amp..

but X5 alone is good enough  thumbup.gif

the price for SG pre-order is already set at 479...
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If give you choose between X3+E12DiY vs Standalone X5, which one you would prefer in terms of SQ? tongue.gif
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both have their uniqueness...i want both~
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You said that X3+E12DiY has a more forwarded Mid den X5. Thats all? tongue.gif
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Please note that his E12DIY is already not the standard configuration  sweat.gif
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QUOTE(yang2910 @ Jan 29 2014, 02:43 AM)
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QUOTE(yang2910 @ Jan 29 2014, 01:22 AM)
You said that X3+E12DiY has a more forwarded Mid den X5. Thats all? tongue.gif
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better mid....fuller low...

on the clarity..i am not sure is it due to my source is from X3...i didnt have much time to test x5 with my e12diy (buf634+muses01)...

now i am a bit puzzle what if i use my x5 as source...

my x5 already pass to the next reviewer...now i am back to dx50 and x3... cry.gif
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Can TS update the first page?
Already many reviews surfacing at Head-Fi, or wait for official release and post another official review?
Interesting product, will see it head to head with DX90.
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so the verdict is x5 worth buying when u have x3/dx50 + e12 diy ?
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QUOTE(hellfire8888 @ Feb 2 2014, 11:37 AM)
so the verdict is x5 worth buying when u have x3/dx50 + e12 diy ?
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FiiO X5 + E12DIY with Muse 02  brows.gif
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first hour impression of the X5 in short is "not impressed" dry.gif

detail and impressions in detail to come soon ETA 10 days
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Read the review on HiFi, would u say x5 have the same similar sound signature as x3, mid based warm sound? or on which point do they contrast if theres any ( without the amp on x3 u did mentioned more music details on x5)
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Read the review on HiFi, would u say x5 have the same similar sound signature as x3, mid based warm sound? or on which point do they contrast if theres any ( without the amp on x3 u did mentioned more music details on x5)
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my 10 days of possession is up, sending it to south Korea next. review is in draft and fact verification by fiio. please keep tabs on my blog site
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QUOTE(pj_guitarist @ Mar 27 2014, 04:49 PM)
Read the review on HiFi, would u say x5 have the same similar sound signature as x3, mid based warm sound? or on which point do they contrast if theres any ( without the amp on x3 u did mentioned more music details on x5)
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for me, x5 is dead flat sound signature, do what headphone you put it in, it's the headphone character, not the player. I love the line out though
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QUOTE(noobandroid @ Mar 28 2014, 07:48 AM)
for me, x5 is dead flat sound signature, do what headphone you put it in, it's the headphone character, not the player. I love the line out though
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Fiio gave me a gratitude present by choosing ANY accessory from their site, includes LOD and headphone cable

such appreciation, wow~

btw i chose the westone cable tongue.gif to use with my custom IEM
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QUOTE(noobandroid @ Apr 22 2014, 04:53 PM)
Fiio gave me a gratitude present by choosing ANY accessory from their site, includes LOD and headphone cable

such appreciation, wow~

btw i chose the westone cable tongue.gif to use with my custom IEM
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QUOTE(dokidoki @ Apr 22 2014, 06:42 PM)
noooooooooo...dont get the cable ......you will regret........the micro-phonic on their cable is really bad...i bought 1 and then i sell it away sad.gif
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Hi, noobandroid How do you fair between X5 and DX50?
In terms of SQ, GUI navigation & other stuff such as storage expansion (SD card).
Because the local Jaben does not have demo unit for FiiO so I guess I have to depends on written review to "compare"... *.*;;
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QUOTE(wildwestgoh @ Apr 23 2014, 07:52 AM)
Hi, noobandroid How do you fair between X5 and DX50?
In terms of SQ, GUI navigation & other stuff such as storage expansion (SD card).
Because the local Jaben does not have demo unit for FiiO so I guess I have to depends on written review to "compare"... *.*;;
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the x5 GUI reminds me of a touch of ipods, using the navigation wheel, but the buttons are in somewhat "unusual" placements

i havent tried DX50 though

unless you are into dead flat SQ, glassy clean sound, the DX50 "might" be an alternative

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QUOTE(wildwestgoh @ Apr 23 2014, 07:52 AM)
Hi, noobandroid How do you fair between X5 and DX50?
In terms of SQ, GUI navigation & other stuff such as storage expansion (SD card).
Because the local Jaben does not have demo unit for FiiO so I guess I have to depends on written review to "compare"... *.*;;
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We do have the FiiO X5 on demo.
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I did try for the Ibasso Dx50 and another China made branded DAP (price is almost the same) in Jaben with different close back headphones and IEMs. Actually the DX50 didn't provide very natural sound compare to AK100. Both this models are made by same DAC card which is WM8740. So there's no difference with DAC. But for the amp, Ibasso is using their own made amp and another one is using AD8397 same as AK100 and X3. In my own opinion, iBasso DX50 didn't designed well on amplifying.
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post Aug 26 2014, 10:43 PM

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QUOTE(un_id @ Jan 28 2014, 10:41 PM)
in your opinion, is X5 good to be used standalone without amping?
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The exact question in my mind tongue.gif

QUOTE(dokidoki @ Jan 28 2014, 11:15 PM)
yes...X3 need to pair with amp..

but X5 alone is good enough  thumbup.gif
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Seriously? If it does, then sure worth the price.

QUOTE(noobandroid @ Apr 23 2014, 08:27 AM)
the x5 GUI reminds me of a touch of ipods, using the navigation wheel, but the buttons are in somewhat "unusual" placements
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So X5 or iPods are better in term of sound quality with headphone like HD600?

QUOTE(E1 - AKG @ Apr 23 2014, 06:44 PM)
We do have the FiiO X5 on demo.
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Where can test the X5? Do you have HD600 or HD650 as well?
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QUOTE(chanhin @ Aug 26 2014, 10:43 PM)
The exact question in my mind  tongue.gif
Seriously? If it does, then sure worth the price.
So X5 or iPods are better in term of sound quality with headphone like HD600?
Where can test the X5? Do you have HD600 or HD650 as well?
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X5 is quite nice as an AIO, has all the base essential, standalone dac, dac+ amp, dap
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post Aug 27 2014, 09:09 PM

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QUOTE(noobandroid @ Aug 27 2014, 06:34 PM)
X5 is quite nice as an AIO, has all the base essential, standalone dac, dac+ amp, dap
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Hi all..! I'm using X5 pairing with Pandora VI! Sweat combination..but... Has anyone any problem with 64bit DSD? I got problem with lots of "jerking" between the track. But when I relocate the files frm 64G microSD to 8Gb microSD... All ok! Wonder it is the sd card issue or something else..!
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QUOTE(johannong @ Sep 3 2014, 12:57 PM)
Hi all..! I'm using X5 pairing with Pandora VI! Sweat combination..but... Has anyone any problem with 64bit DSD? I got problem with lots of "jerking" between the track. But when I relocate the files frm 64G microSD to 8Gb microSD... All ok! Wonder it is the sd card issue or something else..!
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Have you checked the classes for the 8Gb and 64Gb? Your 8Gb may be faster (your 64 may be a class 6, your 8 may be a class 10, for example).
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QUOTE(johannong @ Sep 3 2014, 12:57 PM)
Hi all..! I'm using X5 pairing with Pandora VI! Sweat combination..but... Has anyone any problem with 64bit DSD? I got problem with lots of "jerking" between the track. But when I relocate the files frm 64G microSD to 8Gb microSD... All ok! Wonder it is the sd card issue or something else..!
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DSD is only 1bit sweat.gif
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Dear vague and E1, the both microSD are of similar class.. Which are class10. I did notice when I first got the 64gb card, there is no way I could format fat32 on it...not by only way to do it with the X5 itself... The 32gb and lower capacity card yes, can easily format in fat32. Not sure this has for anything to do with it..
And Yes E1, my mistake DSD only 1bit. So my problem resides with 1bit and 24bit tracks..glitches all the way...
But split them into another card run from slot2... No issue already..
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