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post Jul 23 2006, 08:31 AM

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I prefer the F1C Telemetry from http://findthelimit.com tho. easier to understand than the MOTEC version. tongue.gif
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post Jul 23 2006, 05:42 PM

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So they listened to me and changed the Malaysian car to yellow instead of blue?
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post Jul 23 2006, 09:38 PM

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Still waiting for IDT for their confirmation on the Mod release tongue.gif
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post Jul 24 2006, 02:10 PM

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I suck at car setup.. I usually will use somebody's else and adjust it to my liking. But there are some things that I usually setup my self. Such as soft rear anti roll bar. This will make the rear tyre have more traction. I also depend a lot on the Ballast placements to get more oversteer on understeer.
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post Jul 25 2006, 12:13 AM

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QUOTE(ghost_301 @ Jul 24 2006, 07:22 PM)
Make ur aero to very low value , u can have very much high drag speed , but u will lost control easily as well , so it's kind of trade off between speed and stability ... I am not so expert in setup though ... I think expert here is redline ... Too bad I can't join u guys for the race ... I still haven't manage race without TC ... What a shame ... As for the bump , whcih bump u refering redline ? Bump rubber or bump damping ?
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you can still make the car stable using the suspension. just make sure which suspension unloads first under braking. softening this makes it easier for turning in. this is what I did at Monza

ok, i'll try explaining what I know... this is from my time racing in F1C, but it should apply to rFactor too

The anti roll bar will limit the roll as your car goes through the corners

A higher number (200) for front anti-roll will allow both front wheels to stay on the ground to provide traction.

A high anti-roll bar will provide more speed but less grip.

A low anti-roll bar will let the car roll in the corner more, if the front anti-roll is quite low (100) then the front inside wheel may lift off the track when cornering, but more weight will be on the outside wheel and more weight on the outside wheel means more grip until the wheel becomes overloaded (too much weight transfer) and the car spins out.

Because more weight is transferred forward when you brake to corner, a lower rear anti-roll can safely be used, a higher number like (100) for rear anti-roll will keep the ass-end on the ground better but less weight will transfer to the outside of the car to give more grip around a corner, using a low number like (50) for rear anti-roll will let more weight transfer to the outside wheel and provide more grip but the inside wheel may lift off the ground and less traction will be provided.


Camber and Toe In

Camber is the amount the wheel is angled in or out vertically.

Negative camber means the wheel will lean inwards.

Positive camber means the wheel will lean outwards.

More negative camber means you can corner better, as the car goes into a corner and weight is transferred onto the tire, the tire is pushed down onto the track.

Generally more negative camber will help you go around a corner faster.

Too much negative camber will cause your tires to overheat, while you are getting more grip out of the tires, the tires are working harder and toasting themselves.

The softer your suspension, the more negative camber you will need.

You should have about 0.2 less negative camber on the inside wheels as they stay carry less weight than the outside wheels. If the track goes clockwise your inside wheels will be the right hand side of the car, if the track goes anti-clockwise your inside wheels will be on the left of the car.

Toe is the amount the wheel is angled horizontally.

Negative toe means the wheels are pointing inwards.

Positive toe means the wheels are pointing outwards.

Too much toe in can cause the outside of the tires to get too hot, but also slow the car down since the wheels arent quite pointing straight.

Toe in will help you keep the car in a straight line.

What camber should I use?

It depends on how soft your suspension is and how much you allow your car to roll (anti-roll).

The softer your suspension the more camber you will need

The less anti-roll you have the more camber you will need.

Packers

Packers limit the suspension travel by providing a stopper when the suspension bottoms out. This means that if you have soft suspension a packer would stop your car bottoming out.

How much packer should I use?

About .8 on the front and about 1.0 on the rear for most tracks.

Springs

Springs are basically how soft or stiff your suspension is.

Springs determine the amount the car will pitch.

Hard springs (200 / 150) will mean the car will not pitch much so you can have a much lower ride height.

Hard springs make the car a lot more responsive but the car will not handle very well through corners.

Soft springs will allow the car to go through corners a lot more easily, but the car will be harder to drive because it will be less responsive.

Hard springs release their energy faster than soft springs, but hard springs absorb energy slower than soft springs.

Soft springs will provide more grip but will cause more tire wear and cause the tire to heat up more.

You can affect how the front of the car behaves by adjusting rear suspension.

If your car is unstable into a corner under braking, instead of making the front stiffer, soften the rear so that the softer springs can release the energy slower.

How do I decide what stiffness of spring to use?

The more windy the track the softer you will want your springs as your car will corner better with softer springs.

You will need stiffer front springs if you want to ride the curbs a lot.

On a track with not so many corners like Monza you can use stiff springs (190 / 140) because cornering is not as much of an issue, you also get to lower your ride height because the car will be less bouncy and scrape the track less often.

You should always have stiffer front springs than rear springs.

Softer rear springs will provide more grip and reduce wheel spin in the rear of the car.

On a track where you dont need to ride the curbs much (like Monaco) then you can have soft springs (130/90), but you have to balance it between responsiveness and tire temperature.

On Australia (185 /120) is good, the stiffer front lets you cut the corners over the curbs without disturbing the balance of the car because the bumps are absorbed more slowly but the suspension resets fast enough that the car isnt unbalanced very long.

If you are spinning out while hitting curbs you probably want your front suspension at about 180-190.

Spinning out can also be because your rear suspension might be too high, a setting of 110 on most tracks will stop the rear unloading too fast and causing a spin.

Dont forget after adjusting springs to watch your tire temperature and then adjust the camber afterwards.

Stiffer springs = less negative camber needed.

Softer springs = more negative camber needed.


Dampers

they are fine adjustments and dont affect the car in a very big way.

While the springs affect the amount the car pitches, the dampers affect the rate at which that pitch occurs.

Fast and slow dampening is the speed at which the wheel moves up or down.

Fast dampening fine-tunes the cars handling over bumpy surfaces.

Slow dampening fine-tunes the cars handling around a corner.

If your car is not handling well over bumps then bump and rebound dampening is the thing to change.

A stiffer damper will give better cornering stability.

A softer damper will give better cornering grip.

It is usually very hard to tell what damper settings you should have but in any case it only has a small effect on the cars handling.

If you know that your car is unstable through the corners then you probably want to stiffen the dampers (increase the values).

If your car needs more grip through the corners then you probably want to soften the dampers (decrease the values).


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post Jul 25 2006, 12:17 AM

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Making your car corner better

Why does my car over steer and spin out when I go through corners?

Your differential lock might be too low. Try increasing the diff lock percentage.

Try softening your rear suspension.

[/b]Why does my car over steer when I brake into the corner?[/b]

Your differential lock might be too low. Try increasing the diff lock percentage.

You might want to try softening the rear suspension.

Why does my car under steer when I go into corners?

You differential lock could be too high. Try lowering the diff lock enough that it still gives you control without over steering on braking or corner entry.

How do I stop my car spinning when I hit the curbs?

You might need to stiffen your front suspension and soften the rear suspension, this will cause the energy to be sent to the rear of the car and absorbed by the softer rear suspension, allowing the front of the car to stay balanced.

You may want to increase front and rear anti-roll to keep the car more stable over the curb.

Making your car faster

How do I get more speed out of my car

Lower your wing, but you must balance your wing between gaining speed on the straights and gaining speed on the corners.

For more cornering speed, you need more grip on your tires. Soften your suspension (springs) and dampers; decrease anti-roll, Increase negative camber.

Lowering your car will increase your speed.

Making your car more stable
My car is unstable through the corners how to fix?
Stiffen your springs and dampers.

Increase your anti-roll to limit the load on the outside tires through a corner

Shift some weight towards the rear of the car

Soften the rear suspension.

Increase the diff lock.

Increase the wing.

My car spins out on corner entry

Your rear springs might be releasing the load too fast, try softening the rear springs

You may have to adjust your brake bias, if the rear is letting go, it probably needs more brake pressure, adjust brake bias towards the rear.

Your diff lock could be too low and power is being taken off the inside wheels too soon when you brake. Increase diff lock

Your front anti-roll may be too low, try increasing front anti-roll to stop the car turning in so suddenly.

Your rear anti-roll may be too low, try increasing rear anti-roll to keep traction on both the rear tires.

Tire temperatures
How do I get my tire temperatures even?

If the crown (center) of your tire is too hot then you might want to lower the tire pressure. Lowering the tire pressure will also cause the tire to heat up more

If the inside of the tire is too hot then you probably need to stiffen your springs or decrease negative camper.

If the outside of the tire is too hot then you will need to add negative camber and/or make the springs softer.

If your inside tires are too cool and your outside tires are too hot then try adding more anti-roll to keep more weight on the inside tires while cornering.

How do I stop my front tires from being toasted?

Stiffen your front suspension or soften your rear suspension

Decrease negative camber.

Increase the tire pressure.

Spread the load between the front 2 tires if 1 of them is being toasted by increasing the front anti-roll bar.

You may be steering too hard around the corners and scraping the tires along, try lowering your steering lock.

How do I stop my rear tires from being toasted?

Usually your rear tires heat up if the suspension is too soft and the tires are providing more grip.

Lowering the rear wing will take stress off the rear tires.

Spread the load between the rear tires by increasing your rear anti-roll.

Have a look at your wheel spin graph, if the graph goes positive it means the wheel is spinning faster than it should be. Softening the rear suspension will provide more grip and will help avoid wheel spin.

Softening the rear suspension will stop the tires heating up if you are getting positive wheel spin.

Softening the rear suspension will provide more grip and may cause the tires to heat up you need to look at your wheel spin graph to decide.
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post Jul 25 2006, 11:26 AM

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Usually, check the tyre temperture and suspension travel on the telemetry. But IMHO, telemetry are more often used to check the racing line. suspension setting are more on your "feel" of the car itself. No use setting the suspension to make the car goes faster but fishtailing around corners izzit?
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post Jul 25 2006, 11:42 PM

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CTDP will release it when the new rFactor patch is released I think
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post Jul 30 2006, 09:37 PM

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Yosh, my rFactor is up and running again, and IMHO, this is one of the best car in rFactor.
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post Aug 4 2006, 10:24 AM

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anybody tested the new BMW sauber from the new patch yet?
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post Aug 4 2006, 02:52 PM

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Meh? i thought the panoz was supposed to be in 1105? meh.... I was looking forward to that
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post Aug 5 2006, 04:07 PM

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ZOMG!!!!!!

I WANT IT!!!
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post Aug 5 2006, 07:50 PM

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now we wait for RH06
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post Aug 9 2006, 09:17 AM

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downloading the F1 05, damn the torrent is slow. anyone has the direct link? the CC here blocked many of the site for the direct at racingmag's CTDP site
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post Aug 9 2006, 07:03 PM

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WAH LAH YEE!!!!

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anyways, maybe it's just me, but I feel like i lost 5~10KMH top speed compared to F1C's version.
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post Aug 11 2006, 09:15 AM

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I think the lost speed is because of my setup and the fact that my car cannot rev more than 18000 RPM instead of the real 20000 RPM that the engine is capable of. I slipstreamed a Jordan at Istanbul and it was doing 320KMH compared to my 300++ KMh...................
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post Aug 12 2006, 03:25 PM

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it seems that to use the whole car potential in F1 05, you need to use the boost button....
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post Aug 15 2006, 06:51 PM

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dude, you need to manual boost the F1 car. the default car setup will not use 100% RPM as CTDP want to make it like real life. I found 10s after learning that trick.
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post Aug 22 2006, 01:20 PM

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you can buy only the Minardi at first. then you need to rack up the experience point by racing and testing, than unlocking the season mode. after 3 season you can buy a new car....
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post Aug 24 2006, 09:29 AM

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Anybody noticed an ode to this forum on the A1GP petronas car. look at the left side nosecone and you'll see tongue.gif

but the AI for offline racing seems to have problem as the car won't go faster than 40KPh...... WTH?
editing rcd files also didn't help

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