I know that it has been said many times that you can't go oversea with matriculation result but to make sure of that myself I sent a few emails to some of the universities in England. So...

University College London does accept matriculation as well http://www.ucl.ac.uk/prospective-students/...ia#.UsHQ5eWk2Cg

Uni. of Bristol http://www.bristol.ac.uk/international/cou...tml#ugentryreqs

From University of Surrey

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internationaladmin@surrey.ac.uk
Dec 24 (1 day ago)

to me
Dear sir,

Many thanks for your email and interest in the University of Surrey.

Entrance requirements do vary between courses, but there are various qualifications suitable for entry to first.

Firstly, the STMP (Sijil Tinggi Persekolahan Malaysia – Malaysian Higher School Certificate) is of A level standard on a grade for grade basis A-C. Normally 4 subjects are studied for two years and are acceptable as A levels on a subject by subject basis.
Grade A is broken down into 2 categories (A = 4.00, A- = 3.67)
Grade B is broken down into 3 categories (B+ = 3.33, B = 3.00, B- = 2.67)
Grade C is broken down in to 2 categories (C+ = 2.33, C = 2.00)

Secondly, the Matriculation Certificate (Matrikulasi) is of A level standard and we require an average of at least 3 out of 4, and a minimum of 3 in courses which require specific subjects.

I hope this offers the clarification you required
Best wishes
Sophie
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Plus, i got a reply from University of Southampton and the reply include this link http://www.southampton.ac.uk/international.../Malaysia.shtml and from that link it does says that it accept matriculation result.

This post has been edited by neuro4869: Dec 31 2013, 05:14 AM

For competitive courses like Medicine, Matriculation is not accepted.

Besides, why would anyone take Matriculation if they plan to go overseas?

Maybe that they are clueless to what is it in the future lol just like myself heh. Anyway, the point is you still can go to oversea with matriculation albeit harder despite people saying you have no chance of going oversea if you take matriculation path.


I still haven't decided if I want to try to study oversea or local though especially with financial issue

This post has been edited by neuro4869: Dec 25 2013, 06:41 AM

good uni wont give a damn on matriculation. surrey? southampton? lol? do these unis even exist?? r u sure u wanna pay 1 million to attend such school ?might as well go UM UKM to study....

I have heard of people getting offers from Imperial and King's using Matriculation results, but it's for courses that I didn't even know existed.

Never heard of surrey, but I do know southampton (a.k.a soton ) has a campus in Iskandar JB.

International students do tend to pay more though..

This post has been edited by michaelting90: Dec 25 2013, 07:28 AM

+1

..... and place yourself out of competitive courses .....

Oxford doesn't accept Matriculation .

The point is why do matriculation if your goal is to go for overseas universities? If you plan to go to UK, take 'A' levels, if you want to go for local universities, take matriculation.

As others have noted, not all universities accept matriculation. Those who do accept do so because they need to full fee paying overseas student.

Having said that, good for you, if you are planning to enrol in overseas universities with your matriculation results.

What sort of courses are we talking about here? I am inclined to think that no course at Imperial is 'unknown' since the university does not offer many courses to begin with!

Both Oxbridge and other top UK universities are beginning to see less value in their very own A levels!

No need to be so mean! Surrey and Southampton are all right universities though I agree with you on the subject of financial feasibility. I wouldn't spend RM 1 mil on a degree from Surrey or Soton.

well, a guy from malaysia did enter ucl physics course with matric. he even got offer from imp.

Is he a top student? Physics at Imperial is one of the toughest course to get into!! This guy opted for UCL instead of Imperial?

This post has been edited by studyboy: Dec 25 2013, 03:11 PM

idk lul

Not sure what course for Imperial.

But for King's something like neuroscience.

Really? Who says? Getting A* for 4 subjects are quite tough.

I see! I haven't heard much about KCL's neuroscience programme but I would like to think it is quite all right given the reputation of the university.

There has been a lot of talk in the UK about revamping the A level syllabus to due perceived inadequacies in terms of addressing the knowledge gap between secondary and university education.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/secon...ent-review.html

Moreover, top UK universities such as Oxbridge and Imperial had always advocated the use of admissions tests in favour of using only the A level results as a deciding factor for granting offers. I am not surprised if the other UK universities decides to follow suit one day.

Also a growing sentiment on the declining standards of UK A levels can be detected from the general views of the UK public.

Hmm, I wish I could pick out articles to corroborate my claims but I can't seem to find them!

It's one of the accepted qualification as listed on University College London website. http://www.ucl.ac.uk/prospective-students/...ia#.UsHQ5eWk2Cg

This post has been edited by neuro4869: Dec 31 2013, 04:09 AM

the problem isn't the quality of the a level syllabus, but the way results are given....

the statistics will explain why the top unis do not bother with the actual a levels results for many years already...

results are given in banded grades....

an average of 28% of students get an a in any subject....and 18% get 3a.....

with such results, how is oxbridge, who only want to select the top 1-2% of students to decide someone applying with 3a is a real top 1% or just a mediocre top 28%?......hence they gave up on a levels, and conducted their own assessments via personal statements, interviews, and targeted testings....

3 years ago, the new grade of a* was introduced to help differentiate students.....but again, the bands are still large...8% gets a* on average for any subject, and 4% gets 3a*.....so again, oxbridge who want top 1% still cannot select based on just the a levels....

is it difficult to get 3a*?.....well.....not really.....4% of students get them...ie top 4% only....

back to matrik.....10% of students get 4.0.... same problem.....and on top of that, the matrik syllabus is shallower than a levels.....

in summary, banded results assessment methods like a levels have too broad bands at the top, thus do not differentiate top students...and this poses a problem for top unis who only want to select the top 1-2 %....they are happier with alternatives that stratify the top better.....like aussie atar rank or ib......

This post has been edited by limeuu: Dec 31 2013, 08:50 AM

Ya, you can, but to a limited number of universities. Why bother to go for Matriculation if you wanna go oversea? No clue to go where initially? Go for STPM/A-Level.

If the PISA rankings is any indication of the future potential, we will see an influx of top students coming from China, Korea, Sg, Taiwan and Hongkong.

Once in a while, we will see someone making the grade from bolehland. We are also lacking in education counsellors in providing relevant guidance.

limeuu

You are absolutely correct. The distrust stems from the very reasons you listed here. It will be very interesting to see whether Gove's revamp of the A level is able to address this.

So, is this post saying that we can apply overseas with matrix?
Btw, can anyone tell me which is better: Form 6 (my choice), A-level, foundation

Yes. To a selected few universities that is.

I'd say A levels of course if one has the financial muscle for it. Then again, I am biased. I did A levels.

It depends on you and your personal circumstances really.

If one is academically strong and is seeking challenge, go for Form 6 or A level.Foundation no go.

If one can only 'afford' ipta, go for Form 6 .... at the risk of not getting the particular course or particular varsity one prefers.

If one aspires overseas studies eg in UK/Aussie , go for A level. Possibly Form 6 for non-competitive courses.No Foundation.

If one is not seeking 'academic challenge at Pre-U' and 'desperate' to do competitive courses like medicine/dentistry, pick an ipts offering Foundation that fits your bills.

Folks no flaming please ...... just general and 'crude' opinions.

In the context of your preferred choice of doing Form 6 -

a )It saves you money and get to stay within same school/environment, but lacking exposure like A levels or Foundations students in social aspect.

b )If you are financially 'weak' and without scholarship, you would end up in 'the' ipta with 'the' course, hopefully of your choice.

c )If you can afford overseas studies , no harm doing Form 6 - provided not doing competitive courses like medicine/dentistry and to a certain extent Engineering ....

d )........

This post has been edited by zeng: Jan 1 2014, 11:17 AM

It does seem to me lots of labour-ish lazy sods are very against the revamps. Hehe.

Hi,
Is having STPM qualification face obstacles to enter competitive faculties ? Thought STPM same level with A Level ? thanks.

Somebody it seems simply cannot do simple research.

1) University of Southampton:
http://www.southampton.ac.uk/

- University of Southampton Malaysia Campus:
http://www.southampton.ac.uk/my/

2) University of Surrey:
http://www.surrey.ac.uk/

Really? I read that quite a number of school heads are against it but I will take your word for it.

It is the 'same' so no worries there. However, the general consensus is that it is much easier to score good grades for A levels than STPM.

In the eyes of the Admission Office of UK/Aussie universities,an 'A' in STPM and an 'A' in A level are the 'same' generally.

However, from the perspectives of students taking the two exams , the 'ease' of scoring 'A' are somehow not the 'same'.

The link below from lifelyms , who had personally gone through the mills , is worthy of serious consideration ---

https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3067000.

If one is 'super' confident of achieving grades of 3 A's in STPM , satisfying the 3 A's requirements of UK/Aussie Admission

Office for competitive courses like medicine/dentistry , well I would say go for STPM ......and it's value for money.

Personally, I would like to 'bypass' STPM , but need a bit $$$ ... for A levels ...... if one can afford it.

Mind I ask...
In STPM, there is Math(T) and Further Math, what is the difference between them and what is the benefit of taking Further Math?

Thanks to studyboy and zeng for the insights.