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TSlifelyms
post Dec 15 2013, 10:24 PM, updated 13y ago

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Hey guys , I just finished my STPM few weeks ago , and I realize that most of the A-level students can do better than STPM students . They have a lot of past year papers to do and they actually score easily and better than STPM students ...which I think that it is really not worthy to study STPM(Form6) .(Okay ...A-level is just an example..lol, A-level students ,please don't fight for this ..lol)
STPM students have more thing to study and it is really hard to score well... Is STPM a grave digged by the government for Chinese students ? No offence (I'm talking about majority), I only know it is really hard for Chinese to get into matrikulasi ,and that is written clearly by Malaysia government .
Just my advice , if you are thinking of going to form 6 ( for SPM ) graduates , think TWICE.
I doesn't mean that you can't do well in STPM , it just need more passionate ...
I went through the whole process and it is really a tough process compare to others .
(Why I know? I have friends all around me taking all other Pre-U exam...)
Just my two cents , if you have any objection or question ,feel free to comment.

This post has been edited by lifelyms: Dec 15 2013, 11:18 PM
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post Dec 15 2013, 10:32 PM

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Well, I hope you dun harbour any regret now. It's over and move on with your life. I also went through such process n I must say STPM is really tough.

Whether A level is tougher than STPM or not, that I dun know but one thing I can be sure is A level need more money to study. So if one's family doesn't have the financial strength to pull it through, STPM seem to be the only option to go to local U even though we all know the chances of making it are slim.
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post Dec 15 2013, 10:38 PM

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STPM a grave for chinese students? i took STPM and im not even chinese.

To say A-levels student better than STPM students is highly misleading. Doing STPM has its advantages and disadvantages - kindly dig up old threads in this subforum.

i went to Facon Education fair today. I went to one of the IPTA (UPM) booth and there was a family and their son inquiring about admission to UPM undergraduate programs.

The moment they mentioned the son took A-levels, the UPM representative became disinterested in them and told them UPM doesnt accept A-Levels for Malaysians admission.

Many of my chinese classmates scored well in their STPM and got into IPTA. If you were unable to score well, you want to blame the system instead?

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TSlifelyms
post Dec 15 2013, 10:46 PM

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Lol , I don't mean I can't score well I'm STPM , I just mean that it is really a tough and not worthy path to go through STPM , if there is a better path ,why not consider it?
I went through those stress life and I know the system well. As for A-level , most of them won't even bother about local universities ,as they must know they are aiming for overseas when they step into private college for A-level...

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post Dec 15 2013, 10:48 PM

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Furthermore , I just saying the truth laa , no offense again lol... How many bumi u can see for those taking STPM in science subject... I can't say there is no one ...but ...count with your hand ,compare with those in matrikulasi...and see what government write in matrikulasi entry requirement... And also JPA ...(60% bumi...)
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post Dec 15 2013, 10:50 PM

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STPM and A-levels are apples and oranges, you can't really make a direct comparison between the 2.

If you are actually one of the best, it doesn't matter which one you do. Also, harder papers would be to your advantage.

The definition of "better" is very subjective.

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post Dec 15 2013, 10:52 PM

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STPM --> IPTA.
A-Levels --> IPTS/overseas.

IMHO, don't do STPM. Especially now there are scholarships everywhere for A-levels. tongue.gif
TSlifelyms
post Dec 15 2013, 10:55 PM

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QUOTE(S_SienZ @ Dec 15 2013, 10:50 PM)
STPM and A-levels are apples and oranges, you can't really make a direct comparison between the 2.

If you are actually one of the best, it doesn't matter which one you do. Also, harder papers would be to your advantage.

The definition of "better" is very subjective.
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Well. I just taking about the toughness of the path , not to say A-level is very easy , it also has it's own difficulty , I just hope the later won't be stepping the sharp stones when they have a tar road to swift through ?
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post Dec 15 2013, 10:58 PM

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QUOTE(lifelyms @ Dec 15 2013, 10:55 PM)
Well. I just taking about the toughness of the path , not to say A-level is very easy , it also has it's own difficulty , I just hope the later won't be stepping the sharp stones when they have a tar road to swift through ?
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What a politician-esque way of saying essentially "STPM is harder than A-level". rclxms.gif


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post Dec 15 2013, 11:00 PM

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QUOTE(PseudoGene @ Dec 15 2013, 10:52 PM)
STPM --> IPTA.
A-Levels --> IPTS/overseas.

IMHO, don't do STPM. Especially now there are scholarships everywhere for A-levels.  tongue.gif
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As I know , STPM can also go overseas ,lol ... But of course ,lower chances
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post Dec 15 2013, 11:01 PM

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QUOTE(lifelyms @ Dec 15 2013, 10:48 PM)
Furthermore , I just saying the truth laa , no offense again lol... How many bumi u can see for those taking STPM in science subject... I can't say there is no one ...but ...count with your hand ,compare with those in matrikulasi...and see what government write in matrikulasi entry requirement... And also JPA ...(60% bumi...)
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Will you be so kind to substantiate your claim please?


QUOTE(lifelyms @ Dec 15 2013, 10:55 PM)
Well. I just taking about the toughness of the path , not to say A-level is very easy , it also has it's own difficulty , I just hope the later won't be stepping the sharp stones when they have a tar road to swift through ?
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Looks like everything is difficult to you sad.gif

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post Dec 15 2013, 11:02 PM

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QUOTE(PseudoGene @ Dec 15 2013, 10:52 PM)
STPM --> IPTA.
A-Levels --> IPTS/overseas.

IMHO, don't do STPM. Especially now there are scholarships everywhere for A-levels.  tongue.gif
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My uni (foreign) accepts STPM smile.gif
TSlifelyms
post Dec 15 2013, 11:03 PM

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QUOTE(S_SienZ @ Dec 15 2013, 10:58 PM)
What a politician-esque way of saying essentially "STPM is harder than A-level".  rclxms.gif
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Lol.. I'm not pointing on A-level ,please don't misleading
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post Dec 15 2013, 11:04 PM

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QUOTE(lifelyms @ Dec 15 2013, 11:00 PM)
As I know , STPM can also go overseas ,lol ... But of course ,lower chances
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Of course STPM can go overseas. It's widely accepted all over the world. biggrin.gif

Just saying doing A-levels would be an easier route? But then maybe not. tongue.gif
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post Dec 15 2013, 11:05 PM

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QUOTE(lifelyms @ Dec 15 2013, 11:03 PM)
Lol.. I'm not pointing on A-level ,please don't misleading
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You used "sharp stones" as a metaphor for STPM and juxtaposed it next to A-level (or whatever alternative I guess) as "a tar road to swift through".

I'm not even sure that you know what your point is at this point.
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post Dec 15 2013, 11:07 PM

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QUOTE(Little Birdie @ Dec 15 2013, 11:01 PM)
Will you be so kind to substantiate your claim please?
Looks like everything is difficult to you  sad.gif
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Erm , please surf through the official JPA website , it is mention there , the 60 % is true , not my own words .
And for the difficult ? Lol...I must say the difficulty makes you grow , if you never face difficulty in your life , you never grows up. laugh.gif
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post Dec 15 2013, 11:12 PM

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QUOTE(S_SienZ @ Dec 15 2013, 11:05 PM)
You used "sharp stones" as a metaphor for STPM and juxtaposed it next to A-level (or whatever alternative I guess) as "a tar road to swift through".

I'm not even sure that you know what your point is at this point.
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Thanks for your explanation ,lol , you don't even need to translate it ... It is so clear...
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post Dec 15 2013, 11:15 PM

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QUOTE(Little Birdie @ Dec 15 2013, 11:01 PM)
Will you be so kind to substantiate your claim please?
Looks like everything is difficult to you  sad.gif
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Substantiate would be difficult. But then from observation? LoL. Anyway, this is how it goes, or so I heard (unverified claims), and also what I think.

Those top Bumi students will be offered a place in the supposedly top schools like sekolah menengah sains, MARA, etc early on. These students would then have a "better chance" at excelling in their studies, no? Also, top scorers will then be offered scholarships to further their studies upon completion of their secondary studies. The not-so-top scorers would then be offered a placing in the matriculation. I would figure the not-not-so-top scorers would then be the ones enrolling in STPM.
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post Dec 16 2013, 12:02 AM

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QUOTE(PseudoGene @ Dec 15 2013, 10:52 PM)
STPM --> IPTA.
A-Levels --> IPTS/overseas.

IMHO, don't do STPM. Especially now there are scholarships everywhere for A-levels.  tongue.gif
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that is another misconception.

STPM -----> IPTA/IPTS/Overseas
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post Dec 16 2013, 12:44 AM

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QUOTE(PseudoGene @ Dec 15 2013, 10:52 PM)
STPM --> IPTA.
A-Levels --> IPTS/overseas.

IMHO, don't do STPM. Especially now there are scholarships everywhere for A-levels.  tongue.gif
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I don't remember that there are no scholarships for STPM though.

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