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TSneuro4869
post Dec 25 2013, 05:03 AM, updated 12y ago

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I know that it has been said many times that you can't go oversea with matriculation result but to make sure of that myself I sent a few emails to some of the universities in England. So...

University College London does accept matriculation as well http://www.ucl.ac.uk/prospective-students/...ia#.UsHQ5eWk2Cg

Uni. of Bristol http://www.bristol.ac.uk/international/cou...tml#ugentryreqs

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internationaladmin@surrey.ac.uk
Dec 24 (1 day ago)

to me
Dear sir,

Many thanks for your email and interest in the University of Surrey.

Entrance requirements do vary between courses, but there are various qualifications suitable for entry to first.

Firstly, the STMP (Sijil Tinggi Persekolahan Malaysia – Malaysian Higher School Certificate) is of A level standard on a grade for grade basis A-C. Normally 4 subjects are studied for two years and are acceptable as A levels on a subject by subject basis.
Grade A is broken down into 2 categories (A = 4.00, A- = 3.67)
Grade B is broken down into 3 categories (B+ = 3.33, B = 3.00, B- = 2.67)
Grade C is broken down in to 2 categories (C+ = 2.33, C = 2.00)

Secondly, the Matriculation Certificate (Matrikulasi) is of A level standard and we require an average of at least 3 out of 4, and a minimum of 3 in courses which require specific subjects.

I hope this offers the clarification you required
Best wishes
Sophie
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Plus, i got a reply from University of Southampton and the reply include this link http://www.southampton.ac.uk/international.../Malaysia.shtml and from that link it does says that it accept matriculation result.

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michaelting90
post Dec 25 2013, 06:29 AM

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For competitive courses like Medicine, Matriculation is not accepted.

Besides, why would anyone take Matriculation if they plan to go overseas?

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post Dec 25 2013, 06:39 AM

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QUOTE(michaelting90 @ Dec 25 2013, 06:29 AM)
For competitive courses like Medicine, Matriculation is not accepted.

Besides, why would anyone take Matriculation if they plan to go overseas?
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Maybe that they are clueless to what is it in the future lol just like myself heh. Anyway, the point is you still can go to oversea with matriculation albeit harder despite people saying you have no chance of going oversea if you take matriculation path.


I still haven't decided if I want to try to study oversea or local though especially with financial issue

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post Dec 25 2013, 07:02 AM

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good uni wont give a damn on matriculation. surrey? southampton? lol? do these unis even exist?? r u sure u wanna pay 1 million to attend such school ?might as well go UM UKM to study....
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post Dec 25 2013, 07:26 AM

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QUOTE(piano_freak @ Dec 25 2013, 07:02 AM)
good uni wont give a damn on matriculation. surrey? southampton? lol? do these unis even exist?? r u sure u wanna pay 1 million to attend such school ?might as well go UM UKM to study....
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I have heard of people getting offers from Imperial and King's using Matriculation results, but it's for courses that I didn't even know existed.

Never heard of surrey, but I do know southampton (a.k.a soton tongue.gif) has a campus in Iskandar JB.

International students do tend to pay more though..

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post Dec 25 2013, 10:35 AM

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QUOTE(michaelting90 @ Dec 25 2013, 06:29 AM)
For competitive courses like Medicine, Matriculation is not accepted.

Besides, why would anyone take Matriculation if they plan to go overseas?
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+1

..... and place yourself out of competitive courses ..... rclxub.gif
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post Dec 25 2013, 11:17 AM

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Oxford doesn't accept Matriculation .
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post Dec 25 2013, 12:33 PM

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QUOTE(neuro4869 @ Dec 25 2013, 05:03 AM)
I know that it has been said many times that you can't go oversea with matriculation result but to make sure of that myself I sent a few emails to some of the universities in England.
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The point is why do matriculation if your goal is to go for overseas universities? If you plan to go to UK, take 'A' levels, if you want to go for local universities, take matriculation.

As others have noted, not all universities accept matriculation. Those who do accept do so because they need to full fee paying overseas student.

Having said that, good for you, if you are planning to enrol in overseas universities with your matriculation results.




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post Dec 25 2013, 03:01 PM

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QUOTE(michaelting90 @ Dec 25 2013, 07:26 AM)
I have heard of people getting offers from Imperial and King's using Matriculation results, but it's for courses that I didn't even know existed.

Never heard of surrey, but I do know southampton (a.k.a soton tongue.gif) has a campus in Iskandar JB.

International students do tend to pay more though..
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What sort of courses are we talking about here? I am inclined to think that no course at Imperial is 'unknown' since the university does not offer many courses to begin with!


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QUOTE(maximR @ Dec 25 2013, 11:17 AM)
Oxford doesn't accept Matriculation .
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Both Oxbridge and other top UK universities are beginning to see less value in their very own A levels!
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QUOTE(piano_freak @ Dec 25 2013, 07:02 AM)
good uni wont give a damn on matriculation. surrey? southampton? lol? do these unis even exist?? r u sure u wanna pay 1 million to attend such school ?might as well go UM UKM to study....
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No need to be so mean! cry.gif Surrey and Southampton are all right universities though I agree with you on the subject of financial feasibility. I wouldn't spend RM 1 mil on a degree from Surrey or Soton.
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post Dec 25 2013, 03:08 PM

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well, a guy from malaysia did enter ucl physics course with matric. he even got offer from imp.
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post Dec 25 2013, 03:11 PM

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QUOTE(VengenZ @ Dec 25 2013, 03:08 PM)
well, a guy from malaysia did enter ucl physics course with matric. he even got offer from imp.
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Is he a top student? Physics at Imperial is one of the toughest course to get into!! This guy opted for UCL instead of Imperial? blink.gif blink.gif

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QUOTE(studyboy @ Dec 25 2013, 03:11 PM)
Is he a top student? Physics at Imperial is one of the toughest course to get into!! This guy opted for UCL instead of Imperial?  blink.gif  blink.gif
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idk lul
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post Dec 25 2013, 04:23 PM

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QUOTE(studyboy @ Dec 25 2013, 03:01 PM)
What sort of courses are we talking about here? I am inclined to think that no course at Imperial is 'unknown' since the university does not offer many courses to begin with!
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Not sure what course for Imperial.

But for King's something like neuroscience.
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post Dec 25 2013, 05:23 PM

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QUOTE(studyboy @ Dec 25 2013, 03:02 PM)
Both Oxbridge and other top UK universities are beginning to see less value in their very own A levels!
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Really? Who says? Getting A* for 4 subjects are quite tough.
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QUOTE(michaelting90 @ Dec 25 2013, 04:23 PM)
Not sure what course for Imperial.

But for King's something like neuroscience.
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I see! I haven't heard much about KCL's neuroscience programme but I would like to think it is quite all right given the reputation of the university.
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QUOTE(SWORDZ @ Dec 25 2013, 05:23 PM)
Really? Who says? Getting A* for 4 subjects are quite tough.
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There has been a lot of talk in the UK about revamping the A level syllabus to due perceived inadequacies in terms of addressing the knowledge gap between secondary and university education.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/education/secon...ent-review.html

Moreover, top UK universities such as Oxbridge and Imperial had always advocated the use of admissions tests in favour of using only the A level results as a deciding factor for granting offers. I am not surprised if the other UK universities decides to follow suit one day.

Also a growing sentiment on the declining standards of UK A levels can be detected from the general views of the UK public.

Hmm, I wish I could pick out articles to corroborate my claims but I can't seem to find them! blush.gif blush.gif
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post Dec 31 2013, 04:07 AM

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QUOTE(piano_freak @ Dec 25 2013, 07:02 AM)
good uni wont give a damn on matriculation. surrey? southampton? lol? do these unis even exist?? r u sure u wanna pay 1 million to attend such school ?might as well go UM UKM to study....
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QUOTE(VengenZ @ Dec 25 2013, 03:08 PM)
well, a guy from malaysia did enter ucl physics course with matric. he even got offer from imp.
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It's one of the accepted qualification as listed on University College London website. http://www.ucl.ac.uk/prospective-students/...ia#.UsHQ5eWk2Cg

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post Dec 31 2013, 08:23 AM

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QUOTE(studyboy @ Dec 25 2013, 03:02 PM)
Both Oxbridge and other top UK universities are beginning to see less value in their very own A levels!
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QUOTE(SWORDZ @ Dec 25 2013, 05:23 PM)
Really? Who says? Getting A* for 4 subjects are quite tough.
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the problem isn't the quality of the a level syllabus, but the way results are given....

the statistics will explain why the top unis do not bother with the actual a levels results for many years already...

results are given in banded grades....

an average of 28% of students get an a in any subject....and 18% get 3a.....

with such results, how is oxbridge, who only want to select the top 1-2% of students to decide someone applying with 3a is a real top 1% or just a mediocre top 28%?......hence they gave up on a levels, and conducted their own assessments via personal statements, interviews, and targeted testings....

3 years ago, the new grade of a* was introduced to help differentiate students.....but again, the bands are still large...8% gets a* on average for any subject, and 4% gets 3a*.....so again, oxbridge who want top 1% still cannot select based on just the a levels....

is it difficult to get 3a*?.....well.....not really.....4% of students get them...ie top 4% only....

back to matrik.....10% of students get 4.0.... smile.gif same problem.....and on top of that, the matrik syllabus is shallower than a levels.....

in summary, banded results assessment methods like a levels have too broad bands at the top, thus do not differentiate top students...and this poses a problem for top unis who only want to select the top 1-2 %....they are happier with alternatives that stratify the top better.....like aussie atar rank or ib......

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