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 Plan to buy a NEW/USED car?(V2), ASK HERE for recommendation.

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andrewyu2005
post Jun 3 2016, 04:28 PM

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QUOTE(lsm1991 @ Jun 3 2016, 05:26 PM)
changed my answer abit... only in stock standard form would i leave the standings in that order, modified form, pls no
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how to arrange standings in standard order?

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post Jun 3 2016, 04:30 PM

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QUOTE(lsm1991 @ Jun 3 2016, 05:26 PM)
changed my answer abit... only in stock standard form would i leave the standings in that order, modified form, pls no
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can you please arrange your best proton car in order thanks?
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post Jun 3 2016, 04:52 PM

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QUOTE(lsm1991 @ Jun 3 2016, 05:44 PM)
y u no read... both orders are there...
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eo lotus ed>neo other performance editions>inspira>neor3=satria r3/gti=putra=c99>cfe loaded buggers>neo cps>insert the array of recent campro buggers>perdana>wira=satria=saga=iswara
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neo = inspira > gti,c99,putra >rest need not be mentioned. ok i know but first ,i have to change my rank of proton cars 1. neo and inspira 2nd gti,c99 and putra you want me to rank like that right?
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post Jun 3 2016, 05:03 PM

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QUOTE(lsm1991 @ Jun 3 2016, 05:44 PM)
y u no read... both orders are there...
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i mean in terms of nvh suprima s cfe is clearly better than preve cfe but exora cfe get credit in terms of nvh

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post Jun 3 2016, 07:26 PM

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QUOTE(zenix @ Jun 3 2016, 07:49 PM)
This Lancer is based on the Cedia platform while the previous Lancer (Wira/Satria/Putra/etc) were based on the Mirage platform. You can read on the information here. The Waja isn't exactly based on this platform but do have many elements from it as that period on Proton wanted to go their own way to make their own car from the ground up. Later models such as Gen2 and Persona was based on the Waja, but I don't think there are many compatible parts between Lancer GLX and Persona.
I wouldn't say the Inspira/Satria GTI were the best ever from Proton.
Putra was pretty decent for it's time, plus it was similar to Inspira being more of a rebadge only.
Satria R3 was also a good effort.
Satria Neo Lotus Edition manages to bring the spirit of Satria GTI into today's market. However, in terms of sales it didn't manage to capture the hearts and minds of people like the Satria GTI.

If you ask me the best ever overall car from Proton will always be the Satria GTI, it had everything in terms of performance, affordable maintenance, tasteful bodykit, excellent handling, sold in good numbers, and was able to reach the hearts and minds of the masses. Back in the day a college kid driving a brand new Satria GTI was as good as driving a Honda Civic TypeR the girls would rush out to see it and try and get a ride, of course this behavior faded in time when the car became more mainstream but it still viewed as an affordable sports car from a local manufacturer which is actually good.

Later on all the other's like R3, Special Edition, Lotus edition, etc. were basically either conjobs or niche limited edition models that didn't really capture the spirit of the original Satria GTI.

To say Suprima/Preve/Exora is the best now is true and false at the same time.
They are the best Proton has in it's stable now.
But that's like saying eventhough you scored a C in an exam but you're no.1 because you're the only one in that classroom.

On paper Suprima/Preve/Exora can rival european cars, example....

Golf TSI vs Suprima
Turbo engine: Yes
More than 2 airbags: Yes
Traction control: Yes
DRL: Yes
Touch screen entertainment system: Yes

but when you look into the details you'll see why the Golf is so much more expensive.

Golf has ISOFIX seats.
The entertainment system and touch screen on the golf is more responsive and has more features.
Aircon is automatic with climate control.
etc.
it is a dependable and solid car to keep around as a spare car.
if it is well maintained without issues no point to sell it off.
only problem for me is that for an everyday driver car it lacks alot of safety features found in cars today.
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i agree with you but do not forget iriz mt which is one of the best proton car in proton right now
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post Jun 10 2016, 05:23 PM

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QUOTE(digilife @ Jun 10 2016, 10:59 AM)
Altis really that good ?

What abt the last previous Corolla before this Altis ? the diamond headlight model , wat you called this model SEG Advance ? heard that it was a Made in Japan car as oppose to Vios that was Made in Thailand
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yes wira is a very good car.However it is an old car. yes exora is the cheapest bunch of the cfe model in proton.The price is around 67000.00++ after rebate but preve cfe is around RM70000.00 after rebate. and suprima s cfe is around 70000.00 after discount. And iriz mt which paultan say it is the best affordable car is around RM 41000-51000.00. So which proton car do you want me to buy in miri?or do you want me to buy waja cps which is around 20000.00 or perdana v6 2008 which is around 19800.00 or iswara lmst 2006 which is around 3000.00 or wira 2007 which is around 6500 in kk. i found new price of proton cars in miri because the chinese sales man named issac thai gave it to me
http://www.mudah.my/2008+Proton+Waja+1+6+A...EC-36676123.htm
http://www.mudah.my/2008+Proton+Perdana+2+0+A+-45906982.htm
http://www.mudah.my/2006+Proton+Iswara+1+3...ST-45707313.htm
http://www.mudah.my/Proton+Wira+M+2007+1+5-45433088.htm.
But preve cfe 2013 and 2012 are
around RM12500 and exora cfe is around RM 13200.00 in kk and puttatan
http://www.mudah.my/2015+Proton+Exora+Bold...EC-46542455.htm
http://www.mudah.my/2013+Proton+Preve+Cfe+...A+-46466610.htm
http://www.mudah.my/2012+Proton+Preve+1+6+...er-46345193.htmi do not know which proton car should you ask me to buy it for me to use and drive it
proton exora cfe https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-5F_bKEY0qs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjp6pxei38M preve
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c7jUEmyREXA suprima s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJtJGQ-y1GA wira
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azpw9anIWHI perdana v6
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLhSBLBfcVI iriz mt

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post Jun 10 2016, 10:34 PM

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QUOTE(lsm1991 @ Jun 10 2016, 07:47 PM)
was wondering why all protons then it hit me.. ur the proton loving dude!
-skip the perdana, imo not worth it at 20k and that gearbox is a pain in the ar$$ if not maintained
-thats no lmst.... not even an lmss
-waja looks good if you want something cheap, relatively decent.....
BUT i thought u wanted power....
and your choices are allover the place!
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it is ok proton lover is better than hater
i really want to take iriz mt because of its qc and waja is quite attractive to me but i dont know if it ok or not. i do not know about preve and exora that much even though it is a cfe engine i heard that it is a fuel consumption engine and low torque.
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post Jun 10 2016, 10:42 PM

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QUOTE(andrewyu2005 @ Jun 10 2016, 11:34 PM)
it is ok proton lover is better than hater
i really want to take iriz mt because of its qc and waja is quite attractive to me but i dont know if it ok or not. i do not know about preve and exora that much even though it is a cfe engine i heard that it is a fuel consumption engine and low torque.
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My final choice will be iriz mt because it is relatively cheap and its qc is the best qc in the history of proton and performance and handling are quite good and way better than myvi and alza and axia and suspension is also good and nvh is not that bad compare to cvt iriz and engine is quite good. And it is better than iafm+ and campro. waja is quite decent but my dad want and ask me to choose a new car so i prefer iriz mt. And my dad also like it because it beat myvi,kia picanto and axia

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post Jun 10 2016, 10:44 PM

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QUOTE(andrewyu2005 @ Jun 10 2016, 11:42 PM)
My final choice will be iriz mt because it is relatively cheap and its qc is the best qc in the history of proton and performance and handling are quite good and way better than myvi and alza and axia and suspension is also good and nvh is not that bad compare to cvt iriz and engine is quite good. And it is better than iafm+ and campro. waja is quite decent but my dad want and ask me to choose a new car so i prefer iriz mt. And my dad also like it because it beat myvi,kia picanto and axia
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please watch this video because of this video. it makes me to choose irizhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kd2Sn4raDqY

mt over myvi,axia and picanto

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post Jun 10 2016, 10:59 PM

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QUOTE(lsm1991 @ Jun 10 2016, 11:55 PM)
erm... okay.... enjoy your car i guess.....
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please watch this video right nowhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kd2Sn4raDqY thanks


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post Jun 11 2016, 05:16 PM

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QUOTE(lsm1991 @ Jun 11 2016, 04:11 PM)
in bold is what got me facepalmed in the 1st place.... and their really lousy 'no abs' reasoning

italics is why i dont watch any paul tan videos

**will however go to their site just to read the comments down below
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but still proton iriz beat axia and myvi in terms of handling and others except fc
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post Jun 11 2016, 08:09 PM

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QUOTE(lsm1991 @ Jun 11 2016, 06:41 PM)
my personal opinion between the 2.......
maivee beeats it in a few aspects...
-built quality (no by much but at least most of the dash aint as fiddly)
-power the 1.5 seems alot more friskythan a 1.6 axia
-comfort back sets of the myvi are nicer to be in, not sure why.... iris rear leg space seems to be very cramp though reviews say otherwise?

iris basically
-better handling, safety, gadgets, (i do like the interior looks as well, fancy)

good knows which engine is more reliable, the myvi has old proven tech, the iris has new, old tech (cause they are still behind times) which might be reliable (not proven yet, still pretty new)...
now, when it comes to maintananceim going out on a limb here and going to say that the myvi will be cheaper to maintain... lots of parts already out there you can salvage parts off the boon and passo and many other toyota/diahatsu's...
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no i disagree with you that perodua myvi beat proton iriz in terms of build quality because the reality iriz beat myvi in terms of build quality and others nsitead of fc.Please go and check the quality control properly.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6hhGKNmeFM
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post Jun 11 2016, 08:20 PM

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QUOTE(andrewyu2005 @ Jun 11 2016, 09:09 PM)
no i disagree with you that perodua myvi beat proton iriz in terms of build quality because the reality iriz beat myvi in terms of build quality and others nsitead of fc.Please go and check the quality control properly.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g6hhGKNmeFM
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proton iriz mt is a good car in terms of build quality right now and it is better than myvi and axia in terms of handling,build quality,suspension,nvh,performance,safety and others thanks proton gen 2 and waja cps's qc were also good before but that was in the past
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QUOTE(lsm1991 @ Jun 11 2016, 10:40 PM)
well.... have seen both cars almost side by side (both top specs), have to disagree about the built quality part frankly speaking while im not saying the myvi has fantastic built quality, its less creaky and less scratch prone than the iris.....

i also stand by my opinion that the iris is really an underwhelming car when you talk about performance.... there literally is no rushed feeling in its acceleration.... stable it is, but a fast car? nah... the 1.6 does not feel anything like a 1.6, my dad's old junk 1.6 satria felt alot faster (significantly faster)

nvh..... this is another aspect where i will personally disagree with you i dont think its much better if anything its about the same.... (myvi i sat in had older tyres hence why im guessing it was alittle noisier)

**and dont use quality and the words waja,persona,or gen 2 in the same sentence.... friends 6 yr old (about 6) gen 2's dash is pealing.... no idea how to even help him solve that cheaply short of wrapping it
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so which proton car do you recommend me to buy?
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QUOTE(lsm1991 @ Jun 10 2016, 07:47 PM)
was wondering why all protons then it hit me.. ur the proton loving dude!
-skip the perdana, imo not worth it at 20k and that gearbox is a pain in the ar$$ if not maintained
-thats no lmst.... not even an lmss
-waja looks good if you want something cheap, relatively decent.....
BUT i thought u wanted power....
and your choices are allover the place!
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yes it is lmst https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:200...laysia_(02).jpg
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:200...laysia_(01).jpg
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post Jun 11 2016, 10:53 PM

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QUOTE(andrewyu2005 @ Jun 11 2016, 11:23 PM)
http://www.mudah.my/2008+Proton+Saga+1+3+M...ty-42764754.htm
http://www.mudah.my/2006+Proton+Iswara+LMS...M+-46556556.htmhttp://www.mudah.my/Proton+Iswara+Aeroback+1+3+A+CONVERT+LMST-46183235.htm
http://www.mudah.my/Proton+Iswara+LMST+M+S...im-38225503.htm

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QUOTE(andrewyu2005 @ Jun 11 2016, 11:53 PM)
smile.gif my mother's budget is either exora bold mc2 cfe or cps or preve cfe or iriz mt or waja or saga lmst or suprima s standard cfe. wira is a good car but my mom does not want me to buy the same car as someone that she hate the most ABby phang
so wira is out. I am left with exora bold mc2 cfe or cps or preve cfe or iriz mt or waja or saga lmst or suprima s

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QUOTE(digilife @ Jun 10 2016, 10:59 AM)
Altis really that good ?

What abt the last previous Corolla before this Altis ? the diamond headlight model , wat you called this model SEG Advance ? heard that it was a Made in Japan car as oppose to Vios that was Made in Thailand
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my mother's budget is either exora bold mc2 cfe or cps or preve cfe or iriz mt or waja or saga lmst or suprima s standard cfe. wira is a good car but my mom does not want me to buy the same car as someone that she hate the most ABby phang
so wira is out. I am left with exora bold mc2 cfe or cps or preve cfe or iriz mt or waja or saga lmst or suprima s.
The price list of proton cars in miri are here
Proton Iriz Mt 1.3 standard solid-RM43660.00 after rebate 41660.00
Iriz Mt 1.3 met-RM44110.00 after rebate 42110.00
Iriz 1.3 executive mt solid-RM47900 rebate 45900
Iriz 1.3 executive mt met-$48350.00 rebate
46350.00
Iriz 1.6 Manual Executive solid-55330.00 rebate
53330.00
Iriz 1.6 Manual Executive met-55780.00 rebate
53780.00
Preve 1.6 cvt turbo sol-75730.00 70730.00
Preve 1.6 cvt turbo met-76180.00 71180.00
Suprima S turbo cfe sol standard
$72000 70000.00
Suprima St turbo cfe met-72450 70450
Exora sol cps mt-59590.00 57590.00
exora sol cps mt met-60040.00 59040.00
exora cps at sol-62850 60850
exora cps at met-63300 61300
EXORA CFE 1.6 CVT EXEC SOL-69870.00 67870
EXORA CFE 1.6 CVT EXEC MET-70320 68320

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post Jun 12 2016, 09:03 AM

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QUOTE(lsm1991 @ Jun 12 2016, 12:05 AM)
bro.. the one in your earlier list was not an lmst.... i think you are just going with wiki's info which is not complete... the one in the wiki pic u linked is a lmst-me the silver ones in most of the mudah links are lmss not really lmst
by all means buy the iris... but since you have the budget, why not suprima...
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post Jun 12 2016, 10:27 AM

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QUOTE(lsm1991 @ Jun 12 2016, 12:05 AM)
bro.. the one in your earlier list was not an lmst.... i think you are just going with wiki's info which is not complete... the one in the wiki pic u linked is a lmst-me the silver ones in most of the mudah links are lmss not really lmst
by all means buy the iris... but since you have the budget, why not suprima...
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https://theshiftr.wordpress.com/2015/04/15/...-worst-to-best/
But sadly proton iriz was placed in 3rd place in the history of proton

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