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TSBlofeld
post Dec 13 2013, 02:10 AM, updated 2y ago

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I began to have chronic hives since August 19 (Monday). It was during a period of time when I was rushing for a tight deadline. For two days prior to the onset of hives, I was really under a lot of stress and I was rushing for something and the hives suddenly appear on Aug 19. The hives only appear at night.

I am not sure whether the hives is caused by stress or caused by some vaccination I took earlier.

It is because one month earlier in July 24 (Wednesday), I took the second dose of the Hepatitis A and B vaccination. The first dose was taken in June 24.

Now, my third dose is due soon end of this month. Should I continue with the third dose? I'm worried that the hives is related to the vaccination. I'm worried the hives would worsened.

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I'm not keen on taking any steroids.
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post Dec 13 2013, 12:15 PM

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QUOTE(Blofeld @ Dec 13 2013, 02:10 AM)
I began to have chronic hives since August 19 (Monday). It was during a period of time when I was rushing for a tight deadline. For two days prior to the onset of hives, I was really under a lot of stress and I was rushing for something and the hives suddenly appear on Aug 19. The hives only appear at night.

I am not sure whether the hives is caused by stress or caused by some vaccination I took earlier.

It is because one month earlier in July 24 (Wednesday), I took the second dose of the Hepatitis A and B vaccination. The first dose was taken in June 24.

Now, my third dose is due soon end of this month. Should I continue with the third dose? I'm worried that the hives is related to the vaccination. I'm worried the hives would worsened.

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I'm not keen on taking any steroids.
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post Dec 14 2013, 04:00 AM


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hives?
chronic?

how do you know that is hives in the first place? does it appear quickly and disappear quickly leaving no mark?
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post Dec 14 2013, 12:30 PM

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QUOTE(slimey @ Dec 14 2013, 04:00 AM)
hives?
chronic?

how do you know that is hives in the first place? does it appear quickly and disappear quickly leaving no mark?
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I'm confident it is hives as it appears around night time (and it gets itchy like a mosquito bite) and it goes away in the afternoon.

Night time comes again with a new mark.

And it is definitely not due to mosquitoes.
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post Dec 22 2013, 06:54 PM

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What do you guys eat during this period?

I've been googling around and there are so many foods with high histamine content.

Can suggest one or two simple complete meal with low histamine content?
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post Dec 22 2013, 11:30 PM

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You mentioned just one spot ?

Urticaria usually appears all over the place.


http://www.medicalook.com/Skin_diseases/Urticaria.html



It's possible it's a delayed autoimmune reaction caused by the vaccine,
especially those yeast-based ones, and finally triggered off by your stress.



Adverse events after hepatitis A B combination vaccine.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/16310295/


Major adverse reactions to yeast-derived hepatitis B vaccines--a review.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/9607051



A case-control study of serious autoimmune adverse events
following hepatitis B immunization.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/16206512/?i



Allergic mechanisms and urticaria/angioedema after hepatitis B immunization.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/9892973


If it's mild and not very itchy, you can leave it alone, since it would probably
improve or disappear with time, and you are afraid of steroids.

Otherwise, try applying a relatively safe and low-medium potency second-
generation steroid cream like mometasone (Elomet), which has little systemic
absorption, not to worry.

I have a tube of generic mometasone (Vizomet) in my office. You can
even apply it on your face or on babies with nappy rash.


Another second-generation steroid cream is fluticasone (Cutivate) by Glaxo,
but quite expensive. Doesn't seem to be any generics locally.


Safety of fluticasone propionate cream 0.05% for the treatment of severe
and extensive atopic dermatitis in children as young as 3 months.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11862174



Two other low to low-medium potency steroid creams which are also quite safe are :

Clobetasone (Eumovate, generic U-Closone, make sure you don't confuse it
with clobetasol, which is Dermovate, the strongest steroid cream).

Clobetasone was actually developed by Glaxo in the 70s, but quite ahead of its
time, in that it had very low systemic absorption, far lower than betamethasone
or triamcinolone.

Hydrocortisone aceponate (Efficort, by the French firm Galderma).
Dr Ting used to give me this for eczema near the genital area.


Take an antihistamine like:

Loratidine (Claritine, generic Ezede)
Desloratidine (Aerius)
Cetirizine (Zyrtec, many generics)
Levocetirizine (Xyzal)
Fexofenadine (Telfast)





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post Dec 23 2013, 03:02 PM

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I used to have chronic hives for over 2 years. Took antihistamines almost every day or every alternate days but didn't really get rid of it. Only relieved my symptoms only. And once I don't take antihistamine, it came back again.

I took a detox program and chlorophyll for about 1 month, then up till now it has been more than 4 months I didn't take antihistamine.

Feel free to PM me if you need more details. smile.gif

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post Dec 23 2013, 03:59 PM

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QUOTE(limhyee @ Dec 23 2013, 03:02 PM)
I used to have chronic hives for over 2 years. Took antihistamines almost every day or every alternate days but didn't really get rid of it. Only relieved my symptoms only. And once I don't take antihistamine, it came back again.

I took a detox program and chlorophyll for about 1 month, then up till now it has been more than 4 months I didn't take antihistamine.

Feel free to PM me if you need more details. smile.gif
You started getting the hives 2 years ago and it never stopped since?

What cause it?

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post Dec 23 2013, 04:27 PM

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QUOTE(jimbet1337 @ Dec 23 2013, 03:59 PM)
You started getting the hives 2 years ago and it never stopped since?

What cause it?
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I didn't know why! I did allergy tests and couldn't find out the reasons too. My skin was so sensitive that I had to cover whole body with long sleeves and long pants especially in air con room or under the hot sun. I also thought it was food and all, but even after I tried to avoid these and that food, my condition was not improved. Went to few skin specialists, and doctors only can recommend different type of antihistamines. I thought that's how I'm going to live forever, with antihistamines haha.

Until my friend recommended me this, and my conditions significantly improved.

Now i still have occasional redness. I guess my skin is still quite sensitive overall. But good news is I do not have to be dependent on drugs any more. smile.gif
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post Dec 24 2013, 04:29 PM

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QUOTE(colourfullife @ Dec 23 2013, 04:08 PM)
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Isn't that psoriasis instead of hives?
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post Dec 24 2013, 04:43 PM

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QUOTE(Blofeld @ Dec 24 2013, 04:29 PM)
Isn't that psoriasis instead of hives?
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I'd no idea. My customer only told me he had very bad hive and wanted to try my products.

That's the photo he sent to me after he recover. Anyways thanks for correcting me.
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post Dec 24 2013, 04:57 PM

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QUOTE(colourfullife @ Dec 24 2013, 04:43 PM)
I'd no idea. My customer only told me he had very bad hive and wanted to try my products.

That's the photo he sent to me after he recover. Anyways thanks for correcting me.
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I might be wrong too.

Maybe it's some severe hives. That one looks really serious
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post Dec 24 2013, 05:01 PM

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QUOTE(Tham @ Dec 22 2013, 11:30 PM)
You mentioned just one spot ?

Urticaria usually appears all over the place.
http://www.medicalook.com/Skin_diseases/Urticaria.html
It's possible it's a delayed autoimmune reaction caused by the vaccine,
especially those yeast-based ones, and finally triggered off by your stress.
Adverse events after hepatitis A B combination vaccine.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/16310295/
Major adverse reactions to yeast-derived hepatitis B vaccines--a review.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/9607051
A case-control study of serious autoimmune adverse events
following hepatitis B immunization.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/16206512/?i
Allergic mechanisms and urticaria/angioedema after hepatitis B immunization.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/9892973
If it's mild and not very itchy, you can leave it alone, since it would probably
improve or disappear with time, and you are afraid of steroids.

Otherwise, try applying a relatively safe and low-medium potency second-
generation steroid cream like mometasone (Elomet), which has little systemic
absorption, not to worry.

I have a tube of generic mometasone (Vizomet) in my office. You can
even apply it on your face or on babies with nappy rash.
Another second-generation steroid cream is fluticasone (Cutivate) by Glaxo,
but quite expensive. Doesn't seem to be any generics locally.
Safety of fluticasone propionate cream 0.05% for the treatment of severe
and extensive atopic dermatitis in children as young as 3 months.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11862174
Two other low to low-medium potency steroid creams which are also quite safe are :

Clobetasone (Eumovate, generic U-Closone, make sure you don't confuse it
with clobetasol, which is Dermovate, the strongest steroid cream).

Clobetasone was actually developed by Glaxo in the 70s, but quite ahead of its
time, in that it had very low systemic absorption, far lower than betamethasone
or triamcinolone.

Hydrocortisone aceponate (Efficort, by the French firm Galderma).
Dr Ting used to give me this for eczema near the genital area.
Take an antihistamine like:

Loratidine (Claritine, generic Ezede)
Desloratidine (Aerius)
Cetirizine (Zyrtec, many generics)
Levocetirizine (Xyzal)
Fexofenadine (Telfast)
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Thanks for the articles.

I decided to take the risk and continued with the third dose this morning.
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post Dec 24 2013, 05:31 PM

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QUOTE(Blofeld @ Dec 24 2013, 04:57 PM)
I might be wrong too.

Maybe it's some severe hives. That one looks really serious
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Quite devastating at the beginning. My client told me he never wear short pants even at home because he feel disgusted.

I'm so glad when i see he recover from it.
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post Feb 29 2024, 12:04 AM

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@TS how is your problem now?

I recently got hives after shower this week and it goes away the next morning. Dont know what is wrong with me aside from stress.
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QUOTE(guest54321 @ Feb 29 2024, 12:04 AM)
@TS how is your problem now?

I recently got hives after shower this week and it goes away the next morning. Dont know what is wrong with me aside from stress.
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i found out that it's actually not due to stress

but instead due to certain food. - Food allergy

and it comes after i took some vaccine. Previously, i did not have such food allergy.

I managed it by taking some supplement to control the hives. So, it's ok now.
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QUOTE(Blofeld @ Feb 29 2024, 08:37 AM)
i found out that it's actually not due to stress

but instead due to certain food. - Food allergy

and it comes after i took some vaccine. Previously, i did not have such food allergy.

I managed it by taking some supplement to control the hives. So, it's ok now.
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Mind sharing the supplements?
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QUOTE(MasBoleh! @ Feb 29 2024, 11:46 AM)
Mind sharing the supplements?
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one sachet per day

https://rainintl.com/natalygar/product/2020000

last year i was hit with eczema

i also took one sachet per day for about four months. Need to be patient. And the eczema is gone.

But the downside is you need to take it continuously. I'm still taking it but not so frequent anymore. I am drinking it at once a week now.
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QUOTE(Blofeld @ Feb 29 2024, 08:37 AM)
i found out that it's actually not due to stress

but instead due to certain food. - Food allergy

and it comes after i took some vaccine. Previously, i did not have such food allergy.

I managed it by taking some supplement to control the hives. So, it's ok now.
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I believe mine is from a viral cause, maybe covid or flu. I had like palpitations earlier last month and last week hives.

Few days ago, they are both gone. So I guess that's the culprit.



 

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