thinking of buying a jazz 1.5L as well. but also considering nissan Xgear. hard to decide.
price difference is RM10k. Have not really test drive yet. Wonder how much differenc in term of "boot" space to put things.
I know they are not the same type of cars and hard to compare. Any comment is welcome.
Thx

last time i did test drive livina xgear,
1. good NVH (better then vios 2nd gen) cruising at 130km/h with no obvious outside or wind noise,
2. accelerate quite good for 1.6 engine, (i think better then vios, if not similar i can say)
3. its 4 speed gbx as good as vios 4 speed gbx,
4. boot space is huge at the back n legroom for rear passenger (after i adjust to my position) also big
5. with impul 17' rims, absorber n rear muffler quite nice (but xtra rm10k just for all that)
6. price rm86k if i'm not mistaken (that time without no discount as its just enter the market)

one thing if u want to consider x gear, the ground clearance is higher compare to jazz, so if u like a bit rugged style then x gear suite u bro..

This post has been edited by amad108: Dec 13 2013, 12:17 AM

I like Honda jazz alot but I really don't mind picking the xgear....from earlier, I've liked this livina xgear...I'm not an MPV guy, I rather drive a SUV than a Wish or Estima, at least for naw....but I seem not mind drive a Xgear...

as I said, I like the design and seem like a 'mini MPV' to me, myb mini look sporty so its acceptable styling compare to whale insight or wish...Yet it has the practical space to boot, IMO, much more than JAzz this is where the JAzz loses out to xgear

so I suppose xgear can be used /utilized as a family car or 'MPV'? As IDK about xgear much, if it does....for future proof, I strongly advise you go for xgear without a doubt.

Jazz is no doubt contemporary, n snazzy i.t.o. power and responsiveness, is there....if amad has already sed the acceleration as good if not better than Vios (which is quite quick btw), then I'm sold....Jazz too common otr oredy...somemore xgear look nice and (edit) unlike jazz which good looking in a 'distorted way'. Xgear is balance, low and practical for family so it seem.

Put in a 17" rim, Waw...
Go xgear ATW


P/S Since we're on this xgear, can I get more information about it. is 86k an impuls price , how about the standard? 1.6L only? got 2L?

How does it compare to Wish and if not as big as the wish, but is xgear ideal/decent enough for family use of 2-4 kids, how about +grandparents? 7 seater?

I like to toy with the idea what mpv-like car i want to get nextime when i settle down. I like xgear the most for the compact, balance look

Any real owner feedback, good or bad?

P/S I might interested in waiting for the honda vezel also, but dono will land in msia or not or what price will it be, eventhough, using jazz 1.5L engine only Z.Z Seem underpowered leh for a crossover...unless got turbo....

I think Honda Vezel vs xgear more suitable haha




This post has been edited by wayfeel: Dec 13 2013, 02:14 AM

thx guys, i know what to do now.
wonder whether there is any nissan sale persons around.
i was trying to view an xgear at show room the other day but i cannot see it. only got livina.

i will choose jazz..livina xgear look fugly to me

OKOK la, not too bad....at least not almera-ish lol but srsly, lastnight i sat on almera, quite ok also, since it was at night and at a glance, i mistaken it for vios...then my fren the owner sed, its almera lol got push start stop button leh

the xgear front mcm sikit murano...i mean got abit heritage tat make d front 'livable'. the front headlight is very 'xiang' (bright look)




I havent gone thru the specs yet.
If the price difference by 10k, especially if it's bigger than jazz for having versatile 5-7 seaters and coupled with relatively powerful performance, the whole package will blow Jazz away although Jazz alone that car, I rilly rike but when compare to a more wholly package especially for future family proof...its a no brainer if go for looks only and jazz is pretty but quite distorted way unlike the 2005 jazz...that one cute dao die



This post has been edited by wayfeel: Dec 13 2013, 10:39 AM

macho is the word

the ground clearance higher cos the site describe this car for 'adventure' so i'm sure this car more durable in harsher environment especially u can bring the whol crowd there while the jazz, you can only 5 at most in the crampiest situation somemore...4 on a long trip

how come no vsc kah this car?

and how does the NATS microdot works? nuclear security kah tu?

1 Airbag!!!!????? CMON, you've gotta be kiddin' me

what mean this?
"SERVICE INTERVALS
Petrol 15000 km"

Suddenly see this guy sit like that so syok , jazz can sit liek diet or not?



I want buy this car then go to kundasang picnic

Ts, you kids can wait right? wait for honda vezel first la...myb tat one got VSC, 4bag, & LSD ...LOL



This post has been edited by wayfeel: Dec 13 2013, 10:49 AM

What does this Xgear feature?

How many Airbags? ESC? ABS? VSC? All-disc? Push-start? How many speakers?

3 years back
http://paultan.org/2011/09/07/test-drive-r...-gear-1-6-auto/

To sum it up, the good ride comfort and easily accessible performance are big plus points for the X-Gear, along with the generous rear legroom and boot volume. It’s not the best equipped car around, though, and keen drivers are much better served in a Fiesta or Swift. However, those cars don’t double up as family transport very well, something the X-Gear excels in. Can’t have it all, so it all depends on one’s priorities.

The X-Gear will never outsell the Grand Livina, but is sure to give B-segment car buyers some good food for thought.

PErf seem responsive n ready, n strong accel

"Sole powertrain on offer is the 1.6-litre HR16DE engine pushing out a useful if unspectacular 104hp and 150Nm to the front wheels through a 4-speed automatic transmission. Relative to most rivals in the price range, the Nissan engine ultimately lacks sophistication, but makes up for that deficit with a willingness to perform. Take off acceleration from standstill is commendably strong, and although 4-speed auto boxes no longer represent the pinnacle of technology these days, the X-Gear's box shifts smoothly enough and is reasonably quick with its kick-downs.

Highlight of the X-Gear's driving experience will have to be its exceptional comfort. As mentioned in our earlier review, the suspension proved extremely adept in dealing with poor road surfaces, and potholes are absorbed as if as they were not there. Handling is surprisingly competent as well, but don't take too many liberties"

somehow X Gear is not popular here ... why?

Driven both, n here's my 2cents

Cabin Space: X-Gear
Excellent rear passenger legroom

Rear boot space: X-Gear
Slightly wider than Jazz but definitely longer from lip to back of rear seats

NVH: X-Gear's seats are comfier than d more practical-Ultra seats

Pickup, driving & chassis dynamics: Almost draw

FYI, X-Gear has d same amount of ground clearance as d sister Grand Livina

D only thing that might trouble my thoughts is the roughly similarly priced Grand Livina tats
- more practical
- mechanically d same except d longer chassis
- extra 2-seats tat can even fold-away when not needed
- has a more usable center aircon vent

This post has been edited by Deja Vu: Dec 13 2013, 11:41 AM

Dk. competitors? price not expensive oso right.


Wow good news for the Xgear

I might be a livina or xgear owner say, 4 years from now lol

someone asked me why not Suzuki SX4. I have never paid attention to Suzuki.
Any good points for SX4? Maintenance wise, Nissan should be cheaper?
thx

This post has been edited by happyhealthy: Dec 13 2013, 02:12 PM

last time i attract more towards x gear compare grand livina at that time.. but my wife like grand livina more coz its more spacious n practicality.. i like x gear coz its rugged style..

Xgear 5-7 seaters? I thought it is only 5 seaters, like the jazz

Almost bought x-gear on 31st December 2013, but hold the thoughts when a close mechanic bro advise to take the 2014 car than the 2013 car even it is cheaper. So am swallow back my urge and wait till after CNY 2014.

ISh.. Can't wait..

Have test drive the X-gear and love it so much. Compare difference by 5k to Grand Livina, I still prefer the X-Gear. Who needs the extra 2 seats when I hardly pick up any passenger with me except for my partner.

Secondly, the resell value doesn't affect me much either because I will use a car for more than 8-10 years.

Love the boot space, love the suspension. Love the sporty look. The interior is simple but I can accept it. GPS can always use my Galaxy Note 3.

Conclusion... Can't wait to get one.

got optional gps radio right? but with boom price tag.. yup, seriously nice, i almost buy it last time.. good luck bro..

For Suzuki SX4 the maintenance should be low cause it service each 10k. For nissan x-gear is 5k. For practical you better take nissan x-gear.

Nissan x-gear is spacious inside. The boot is big. Tested to revv until 150km /h it still stable but few a bit floating compare to suzuki swift.

The best part is the steering is damn light very easy to park your car.

Compare to Jazz, i would think x-gear is more practical. You can drive in city or balik kampung without issue on the space to put luggage or food or durian or your lovely dog.

Sigh... went to have a look on the Jazz yesterday, found out there's actually a lot of detailing provided in Jazz compared to X gear. No doubt the space is slightly small to X gear, but interior quality wise all better than x gear. X gear dash board looks plastic to me after I viewed Jazz.... Argh. Putting me in a lot of dilemma. Price wise, JAzz is RM72k compare to X gear RM84k (can get around RM80k).

Have you all know that Nissan cars always have problems after 4 years or reach 100k km? This is the info I got from some of my friends who owns Nissan cars. Usually at suspension and occurrence of noise. Wonder if any Nissan cars owner can verified this?

Is Jazz or most japanese cars experience obvious wind noise when drive on Highway?

I have been driving my previous Sentra N16 for almost 9 years and odo meter reached almost 350k km and I did not face any problems you mentioned above, just change those wear and tear parts like absorber, spark plug, tires...... nothing major problems occur before, now driving the Teana also almost 3 years and so far nothing happen. I suspect of the occurrence of noise from the suspension like your friend`s case, I think this is due to the worn out absorber and some bushing, change all these minor parts will solve the problem.

You got discount 3k for Jazz...? Jazz Petrol price around 75k...

Discount 1k plus 888 ang pau.

This post has been edited by lily_butterfly: Feb 9 2014, 08:05 PM

Today went test drive Jazz, mitsubishi asx, toyota rush, avanza, and x gear ( 2nd time).

To be honest, X gear still remain my 1st choice in terms of handling, comfortability, suspension and not much noise. The x gear i tested is at 40k mileage. Jazz tested was at 100k mileage n feels like my 6 years old myvi.

Now i care less about the interior of the x gear for its comfort n performamce. But the SA said new X Gear with facelift will be out soon. So I will wait another 1 to 2 months.

http://paultan.org/2013/04/24/nissan-livin...livina-xgear-1/

This one sounds like 2013 model, not 2014...

http://honda.com.my/promotions/promotions_details/9

If average out 100k that Jazz should be around 5 years old...? Unless the owner drives frequently, raking up more than 20k km a year...

Just got my xgear few weeks ago. So far so good. Boot is huge too.

Of course x-gear wins everytime.. honda jazz are for small people and small family sized citizen while x gear will provide the space you need anytime.

Don't have to fear that much of the engine as they are from nissan.. If you buy cars that people drive, you can't go wrong. Maintenance and spare part are plentiful. Don't buy cars that are not "Malaysian Favorites" as you'll be an alien at no man's land.

As why did i choose Jazz compared to x gear is just a small x factor that Honda gave inside Jazz.. I dont want you to follow my decision as they are not yours.. btw, yes that X factor would be the decisive for many people in various occasion.. as how people looks Nissan X gear is beautiful while some says its fugly. Same like people say Jazz is fugly too whilst some people admires the beauty and design and such..

[quote=Eithanius,Feb 9 2014, 09:56 PM]
This one sounds like 2013 model, not 2014...

Yes. it is the 2013 model.

I was more looking forward for some upgrade to the interior finishing. Hopefully not the beige fabric like the grand livina.. that put me off a lot.

My 1st look with Jazz is wowed by all the x factor too. But during the test drive, I was hoping to find the comfort feel as much as I found with X-gear. To be honest, my myvi is more comfortable compared to the Jazz I drove which surprised me a lot. May be I should drive a newer Jazz to find out more?

You should test drive the newer Jazz... but then again all Honda dealers out there only have the Jazz Hybrid for test drive... If you wanna test the Jazz Petrol like I do, you're out of luck...

My friend is driving x-gear for the pass 1 year so far there is no problem with the car. Is comfortable to drive and to my surprise it save fuel cause all the time you no need to accelerate the car. It will move once you move your gear to D. Maybe because it using the same engine as grand livina 1.6 but with less 100kg weight.

Wind noise is not so good, you still heard the engine noise during acceleration. Regarding stability is quite good as well compare to suzuki swift which i driving. I agree it look plastic for the interior, but you will value the space it have. Really useful.

Hope this help you.

This post has been edited by lcmbryan: Feb 10 2014, 03:59 PM

Thanks and it helps. I agree with you on the comfort drive, but didn't notice too much on the engine noise during acceleration. I do agree with the obvious stability as I was testing 4 cars at the same day.

One thing is they did not do balancing of my front tires when deliver the car to me. When reach 100km/h steering shake like crazy.
I checked the wheels and obviously no balancing done becuse no metal tapes on the rims of both tires. Back tires got.
I went to service center and they do balancing and now ok liao.
Very disappointed with the QC chdck before deliver car.

Maintenance is very important. If we observe any little problem with the car and go to the mechanics right away, we will have less trouble.


Mind you share more on the car performance, fuel consumption and so...

Performance wise I think is quite ok. But of corse I do not have much experience with other cars. I was driving iswara and waja before.
Fuel consuption is good. So far better than my old iswara.

I found that my new Xgear fuel consumption is quite high.
One litter only can travel about 10.5km only in KL driving.
Similar to my 13 years old Waja.
I tot it should be more fuel economical. maybe there is something wrong with my Xgear tuning?

New car before clocks 5-8k km yet?

Is only 2.5k mileage now.
I cannot imagine what the fuel comsumption will be after few years. Beh tahan.

Wind noise is quite apparent in my Livina X Gear. But I managed to completely reduce them. Now remains the road noise. That will be my 2nd project in soundproofing.

Any other members need help with reducing their Livina / Livina XGear wind noise let me know.

How is your xgear fuel consumption?
Thx

Am at 18k mileage now. Asked Nissan SC to give me Castrol Magnatec Semi Syn instead of the mineral oil ( default ) that was poured in.

So far so good, on a full tank long distance drive can get at least 600km. City/town use probably about 450km~500km ( 80% jam )

new and new engine still long way to go, after 5k 1st serving completed, will be slightly changed

I was told Nissan gonna launch a new model of the Livina X-Gear today… Any further info…?