I find it rather weird how many people are simply obsessed with pure bred dogs or dogs that look pure bred. I'd understand if they wanna show their dogs or want them for a specific purpose that pure bred dogs can possibly offer but for those who merely wants a pet dog. those who aren't really into training their dogs. Why so insistent on having a "pure bred" dog?

Another thing is that I find many people who thinks that only the pure bred dogs deserve to have the best food, best nutrition and sent to the vet whenever there's an itsy bitsy problem with them... whereas when it comes to the mongrels.... leftovers would do.. don't care if they run out into the streets and why bother sending it to the vet if it's sick.

Shouldn't all dogs, pure bred and mongrel, deserve the same love and care? I just feel that it's unfair how mongrels are being pushed aside. I personally don't believe in purchasing a dog. I fully support keeping of mongrels and giving them the best even though I obtained them for free. I love how they have so much personality. They may not always be obedient but they are definitely loyal as a dog should be and they provide me with great companionship. They do things that are so unpredictable and enlightning.


so, what are your thoughts about pure bred dogs and mongrels? do you honestly give them equal treatment?

The difference is that pure breed will have more market value while the other breed will not.

the same reason why people go for beemers than kancils.

it gets you from a to z but theres a certain status u get while in both cars. same thing with dogs...rottweilers, german shephard are items of luxury man......a good built dog that is trained well will make the master prou

My first dog is a mongrel and he still is my baby boy.
I got my lab for free as well but I do not treat her differently from my boy. :/ The only priviledge she has is that she lives indoors. My boy guards the house. Yes, I agree completely. Ppl do tend to treat pedigree dogs like royalty while the mongrels like peasants. Dogs are dogs, no matter what breed. They still need love and will show love and loyalty no matter whether it is a mongrel or purebred.

Fact : Most breed of purebred dogs were actually decendants of mongrels. When mongrels produce something that is desirable, ppl just take these canines with desired features, temperaments etc and breed them to get these traits. Thus producing - PooF! A new breed of dog



Dogs are not made out of metal A car cannot return love or provide companionship.... Unless you imagine them to do so O.o Metals have different qualities due to different uses. Dogs are natural and not man made, they should not be judged that way. No, it is not the same with dogs. Yes, ppl do get proud when they have a champion line rott, german or so on. But that is mostly materialisticly thinking. Unfortunately, we live in a materialistic world, so most ppl think this way of their possesions.

This post has been edited by Reanne: Jun 26 2006, 01:32 PM

wat is the difference when u get a pure? mixed or mongrel. maybe this is not working out in m'sia cos breeder don't breed dog by chosing the temp of the dog. but is this my own view.

every pure breed should hv their similair temp, or basic temp. so u can see which breed is suit ur living. while a mix or mongrel we will not know until they come in.

but i do believe that all dogs are the same, they alll deserve our same love, same food. n mixed n mongrel is also as loyalty, interlligent, daring as the pure breed. all dog should hv basic taining included the mongrel. training doesn't really mean u nee to go a K9 class, u can train them by urself if u r able too. we want a lovely doggie who is appreciate by everyone one.

my mongrel is smarter than my pure breed bullie. so it doesn't mean my pure is better

do love ur doggie friend as they are

Now with the petstores getting from puppy mills or other unknown origins, do you think it's safe to get a purebreed just from anywhere? Even some so called breeders do not care whether they are inbreeding and/or magnifying the problems and faults in their dogs. As for these kind of breeders, as long as they can make profit, frankly speaking, they don't care. It's much safer to get a loving mixbreed puppy that can be so easily obtainable in all different packages that is waiting and hoping for someone to bring them home and love them.

eh... as dogs grow older... mongrel or pure bred.. nobody would really want them. there is practically little or no market (at least to the public. different for breeders) for adult dogs. It's not like tarantulas. the bigger they get, the more value they have (only for the females).

and what about them yorkshire terriers and shih tzus?

you see a dog still has to be trained. pure bred or mongrel. when they are trained, let say to a high level, they are trained for a specific purpose. whether it is as a guard dog, show dog, etc. I was refering to dogs that I bought merely as pets.


that I agree with you. It's different when the pure breds are bred properly. it's pretty obvious how many people have poorly bred "pure breds". those that emerged from puppy mills. those pups are definitely not bought for training purposes. They're bought just for the sake of having a pure bred dog. It's just plain weird. the obsession with pure bred dogs.

I think I'm getting hyper..... didn't sleep for 3 days already O.o

Mixbreeds are generally more smarter than most purebreeds.

This post has been edited by Reanne: Jun 26 2006, 01:43 PM

lol. it's hard to say with smartness I personally love both pure breeds and mongrels. they're both dogs! and it's not accurate to say that pure breds are less smarter or what not although I can agree that mongrels are harder to train.

I'm putting the whole special training thing aside.

I'm referring to the basic getting a dog as a pet... that's the point where it does not matter to me if it's a pure breed or a mongrel. unless of course if size is of concern.

if the dog will learn or not, its acutally up to the owner. its all because of the human, not the dog. no matter how stupid they r, they still smarter than human kid, they only take few mths to toilet train while human need 2- 3 yrs for that!!

From what I've seen, ppl want to get purebreeds because they think they're cleaner, cuter, in other words, better in every aspect compared to a mongrel they tend to refer to as mangy mutt.

lol. I still remember that whenever I say I have 3 dogs, the first thing they ask is "what breed?"


all 3 of mine are mongrels

my so called JRT + maltese... thought we'd have a small sized dog... looks more like a JRT-market border collie that's about 12KG... a JRT and a maltese put together

but he's still super pampered.

All dogs should be treated equal, but I guess the reason why people are so anxious over their pure breed dogs is because if it dies they would have wasted their 1 or 2k+ that they paid for it, whereas you can get a mongrel from spca or roadside. Mongrels are hardier too and more likely to recover faster from wounds etc, maybe thats how they feel?

People tend to place the value of a pet depending on how much they bought it for. Like even my parents complain when my bunnies go to the vet, coz they are bought with a cheap price, and till today have cost me around rm 500 in vet bills over these years.....(i can buy 15 local rabbits already) whether worth it or not depends on how much you love your pets, some people dont understand that, and only judge based on price.

yeah. I agree about the price. some people only give the care to their equivalent to how much they paid for them. That's not fair. buying is easy but the love and companionship is irreplacable.

All dogs are the same inside, regardless if they look pretty or ugly on the outside (interesting to note: most people shun the Chinese Crested, saying they look pariah!).

All dogs go to heaven. Hee.

Be it mongrel or purebreeds, most ppl buy just because of it's prestige but some buy purebreeds for their purpose; gundog, terriers, working breeds, etc.

Well besides the obvious reasons like what you say, there are people who think mongrels not as good or deserving as pure breeds. My mom will frown whenever I bring home a stray pup. Scold me and the poor doggy some more, but become so nice to my aunt's Stafforshire bull terrier. "England mari" methinks. =_=

bah..same as how ppl always think art stream students aren't as smart or as good as science stream students...

what to do..it's the way the world works..

but i believe for most animal lovers..a dog is a companion no matter what breed or type..
personally, I'd keep strays and mongrels if I could. Too bad my home no space..but I make it a point to encourage people to get furry friends from shelters..

To me, dog is still dog.... now I got purebreeds.... well, I'm getting quite tired of them getting ill because it's in their blood.... Will be getting mixbreeds and mongrels next time. My first dog was a mongrel and she was the best guard.... lived up to 12 years before we had to put her down.

Anyway, dog is dog... now people taking advantage of purebreeds that come in small size. They breed them small breeds so that people living in condos can own them... sigh... value? Sigh.... commercial breeders only see them as cash cows... nothing more. Some people see them as status symbols but a dog is life lah, not a car or a piece of jewel to show off to friends.

Still, we must treat dogs equally. Pure or mixed, they are loyal and loving... sad lah, many people see mixbreeds and mongrels as rubbish dogs... well, they aren't and very true, mongrels are smarter and they get sick less.

haha well ethically i think they shud be treated the same....but personally if i have 1 mongrel and 1 husky, surely i'll be somehow treating my husky better....but wont be much different la...cause once i get a pet, my pet gets my love....now come to another Q,if you see someone begging for money and you dont see anything wrong with the exterior of the person, will you donate?? and what if you see a person who have no legs?? will you donate?

if you're only donating to the 1 with no legs, then maybe you're bias, same like whether u choose to treat the mongrel or purebreed better...right?? cause the one with no exterior problem might have aids or anything that makes them not able to work? and must beg??

Somehow,if you're paying alot for the purebreed u tends to sayang it more la....

I still will love mongrels more. That's cause I haven't had a purebreed yet.

sigh. It's so common. the whole care for what you pay most for thing. So like with dogs that are from free adoption. would that mean that they should be given less care? The funny bit is if the free adopted dog is a pure bred or look like a pure bred, they actually get quite a bit more attention. It's just plain silly. I've heard of how people go crazy over dogs that merely look like pure breds when they're up for adoption. But the mongrels that don't look like a purebred? Even if they say that they're cute or something they'll try their hardest to find even just one feature that somehow seems like a pure breed. I'm not saying that's wrong. Many of us subconciously do it, including myself. I only wonder why sometimes.

Sigh... I got a call recently... you remember the beagle mix kelpie? Well, this lady called and she was so excited over it and gave me info of her home, experience and why she wants the puppy.... then when the pup was adopted, we showed her another pup which was a mongrel... her reaction? No no, I don't want this mongrel, I want the beagle mix. Why? Ahhh... like what you said lah, people go crazy over a dog that looks or has something pure in them... but mongrels? Left behind only......

yeah.. it's so so sad.. at least the puppies still have a bitmore chance... the big ones? lagi no chance. I think at least adult purebred would still have some hope.. but the mongrels, close to no hope. even if they do adopt the cute cute mongrel pups... later when they grow bigger.. throw back at you.

Guess the best thing to do is not to simply breed dogs, unless both parents are purebreed, otherwise will result in unwanted animals.

yeah. promote neutering!!!

depends on the person. Pros of mongrels is that they usually live longer , as they don't have the breed's susceptibility to certain illnesses. Also , sometimes they're cuter than pedigrees.

I think mutts are better , if you know the original parents history. Like for instance , crossing a beagle with a retriever , if both parents have good temp, i would buy it rather than a pedigree with bad parents.

ya pity the mongrels actually especially the larger 1...the other day me and my friends saw a stray dog(whole black) inside a close up drain when we were yum charing at a mamak....it keeps barking and so my frens and I went to the rescue, we try to scared it to move to a place where the drain is not locked by the steel thinggie....and after like 2 hours we finally succedded to pull it off the drain using ropes and hand(my fren actually got bitten cause i think the dog frighten when we try to pull him out) and the problem is after its out, we need to loosen the rope cause its tied to the neck, and the no fear me went slowly to loosen it up and i touch the head of the dog b4 doing that and actually the dog has very very nice fur to touch and also quite a nice dog which actually i wanted to adopt it but then...cant lo...my parents dislikes pet alot and even my husky also almost kena buang...so no choice lo...have to let it go also....and my fren told me last time its rared by a person, and now dont know y throw already.. T_T pity dog....haihzzz, promote neutering and spaying!!!! If you're not gonna breed it la...for my husky....ermm cant spay yet T_T

even if you notice, purebreed will be adopted easily while mongrels..... haihz u know the case lo

yeah. sometimes it's not even how much is paid for the dogs but rather the fact whether the dog's purebred or not. it's ridiculous. IMO, it's people's mindset towards the whole purebred vs mongrel thing. we were brought up to think that purebreds are better than mongrels. I find that not many people actually know that the advantage of purebreds is their predictable behaviour and ease to train. they just want a purebred because it's a purebred (I personally know some people like that).

If only people would stop shrugging off mongrels.

Hope I'm not one of those people

yeah, actually when i got a husky, i didn't know whats the good in her....but i juz love huskies ^^ but slowly i study bout purebreed and etc and now i know ^^ but somehow my pup isn't really showing the so called natural behaviour yet....and yes i hope they stop shrugging off mongrels as well.......but no worries, next time if you have mongrels up for adoption, juz say something like this 'purebreed for adoption - 'think of any name which u think ppl will believe is a purebreed name' lolzzz i think many ppl will still offer to adopt if they are not well educated in this....or maybe 'pup for adoption - crossbreed of german shepherd,husky,labrador,GR,etc etc' sounds interesting to people as well.... ^^

not you la. hajoh. of all people.

I'm referring to my relatives. They bought an english cocker spaniel who was practically good for nothing and bloody irritating.. a huge waste because his parents were champions. plus they don't even take care of their own so called dog. they send it to someone else to take care. just bring home during holidays to "play". then they got a not so good quality female.. bred.. only one puppy who was another useless bugger.. not good quality also.. also dumped to the friend there to take care.. the female sold to dunno who... they talk so much about the "purebred" cocker spaniels but the way they treat them...

now they got a bull mastiff whose hobby is to eat people...

come to think of it, they weren't like this with their first dog who was and SPCA adopted mongrel. They took the courtesy to actually care for the dog and all because they truly did love that dog. but the cocker spaniels? more for the fact that they can boast about the dogs.

Hahah... thanks goodness not me

Aiyoh, I see many people take purebreeds for status symbol... to show off or they admire the breed only.... poor souls...

i actualy like mixed breeds a bit. I once had a mix (both miniature) Poodle X Pinscher . had the pinscher build with big radar dish ears ... but the poodle fluffy look. (Ok , it looked more like a maltese with big ears)

it was the most awesome dog in terms of looks.

it was the most horrendous dog in terms of temperament and behaviour

well , one day it broke loose and ran away

ok fine ... not a very good example. just ranting

BUT it would have had a much better temperament if the parents were both OK. AND if the dog wasn't a product of an incesteous relationship but i digress ...

yeah.. dogs r dogs..
only advantage i can think of is u can forcast whats pure breed natural instinct will be. and will get the one suit our lifestyle..
but still all dogs nid training.... only can be superdogs.. haha

i used to have a mixed mongrel and he is just as smart, as energetic, as loyal, as alert, as obedient as the pure breeds that i have.

and i love him just as much as i love any of my dogs. eats the same food as well.

I used to have a mongrel .. and now .. she's in heaven dy .. I miss her very very very much! I treat her not much lesser than my current Maltese now .. In fact, I love her more!! She's my 1st dog .. and i loved her at 1st sight and i will always miss her forever and ever!

To me whether the dogs are Mongrel or Pure Breed, I treat them the same way if they are my pets. Each dog has its own unique personality. May be I would pilih kasih if the dog is smarter than the other (regardless of whether it is mongrel or pure breed).

In fact, mongrel could be quite a good guard dog too, as you don't have to worry that someone will come into your house and curi the dog. Mongrel is easier to take care and can be a good pet for anyone, unlike Pure Breed dog, there are some breeds which are not suitable for young children or novice dog owner.

Having a Pure Breed dog as pet, you have to worry about its horror stories abound of purebred dogs plagued with health problems or breeders who misrepresented their dogs or who didn't come through with the promised paperwork.

I have both mongrels and pure breeds. I love them all the same.

Here are pictures of my two mongrels. They were taken 2 years ago though. One was a stray which came to my house when he was a pup and the other was given to us when the previous owner could no longer keep him.

woah... they look so fit 2 years ago.
and now they look so...........

Two years ago not yet neuter ma. Now, neuter liao ma a bit fat loh. I think Lucky got 30kgs liao.

hahahha BOBO and LUCKY is so.......... with what you are feeding them, of course become fat fat lo
well no comment. otherwise you will kick me out of pet shack 1.

They eat different food la wei. One eat Canidae, one eat Eagle Pack Holistic. But they ah, anything also eat la. Not fussy wan

Well be it mongrel or pure breed, they are still our best friend. I dont know why some ppl treat mongrel as different. Honestly, mongrel tend to be more healthy and smarter, just like the pair of dogs I see in my dog training class. Last month my wife went to PAWs (subang Jaya) and she recorded some clips to show me, I feel so sorrow and sad inside, even now when I'm typing this thread, call me emotional if u want to, but I just cant hide it. I see those dogs, in d cage, just waiting to be adopted, some for their time to go down, tears flow down my cheeks went my wife told me the caretakers relate incidents of how dogs know of their time to say goodbye.. and what dog of the month or most popular dog actually means, that is the last month that they will ever see world. So for those who want to keep a dog for companion, play or just for fun, please do visit PAWS and have a look, I have a pampered JRT at home, if I have the chance to get another dog I will definitely go to PAWS to look for a small breed, be it a mongrel or a pure breed, to me dogs are not any burden, but a friend u can count on.

i chose mikey my shih tzu as my 1st baby boy coz this is my 1st puppy ever!! and I wanted something more predictable, maintainable and most of all MUST BE SMALL SIZE...as he is sleeping with me in my student hse

when i move into my own hse one day, me n my bf have decided to get mongrels in and maybe together with a bull terrier to b our guard dogs..lolz...mogrels do have better immune system and intellectual ability than some pure breeds as they have some advantages over some genetic transmited conditions...

but i don think i can take in big big sized mongrels though, coz i don know how to maintain them ..
i tried talking out my uncle's collie for a walk once, and i ended up being pulled by the collie instead

Mongrels and Purebreeds are both dogs and there is no difference in them. They are both creation of God. I have question to those who only prefer purebreed. Do check up on your dog's certificate and see if its mentioned that the sire & dam is showdog. Well most of the time the certificate can be made on our own. Dont care if its MKA or other country dog association. I know this since I worked in a pet shop when I was studying in college last time. Trust me, dogs are just dogs. The best of best friend you can ever get.

Sometime I feel like crying when I see the way the breeders take care of the dogs and on their condition when they are being brough it. I believe that when you do/give today will comeback to you one day. Dogs are very precious. I'm in midst of adopting a dog now. This is the least I can do for the pity souls caged in.

There is DEFINATELY no difference between mongrels n purebreeds...to me,my lucky(11years pld passed away on d 1/1/07) and my ruby are my family ..both of them are not purebreeds but they make excellent company to me...

I believe dogs are men's best fren n they'll always remind as men's best fren no matter wat breed or kind...

smelly and miss mouse

love the thread!

my two cents? there is this vet who thinks we should abolish 'breeds' and just go for a combination of these varieties, S, M, L and long or short coat! I AGREE!

also, MOnty is missing so please pass the word around and help us find him. trust the bloody pedigree dolt to get lost/picked up.... my sheeri-baby would never be so.....gullible.

I do agree...dog is still dog and they needs love...my 1st 3 dogs are actually mongrel and all of them dies of old age...and it's really breaks my heart.....

Thta's why i agree with Ronnie. Never get a dog because of you just wanna have fun with it.....Keeping a dog for is a long term commitment for purebred and mongrel alike.


Ronnie, what happened to our JRT tread? Some1 took it down or what? By the way, will u be going to the dog show on 20th next month?

My family have 9 mongrel dogs stay at my place before for 9-16 years. I have to agreed with others with doesnt judge by pure breed or mongrel. they are dog. BUT in this society NOW, a lot of new/old owner still will GIVE differences of 'care' and 'love' toward purebreed and non purebreed dog.

Food for thought... perhaps



An oversimplification I'd admit but seeing that this thread's dominated by one general arguement only, I'd play the devil's advocate and try to inject some RWI into a really promising thread!

This post has been edited by madmoz: Dec 28 2007, 06:20 PM

your fact is so wrong. mongrels are the one which are actually the descendants of mixed pure breeds hence, the term 'mixed breed' but i do agree that new breed of dogs are a result of cross breeding. the american cocker spaniel and english cocker spaniels are very good examples of new breeds as a result of selective breeding. the american - a smaller mouth, the english - a longer mouth.

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Added on December 28, 2007, 7:51 pmAs for me, i treat both mongrels, and pure breeds alike. i never show favouritism to neither. yes, mongrels are generally deemed 'naughty' but NO, they CAN be trained just like any other dog. its just physical. both have the same mind.

another thing, some pure breeds have bad temper in nature for examplem the well known rottweiller BUT they still can be trained.

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Added on December 28, 2007, 7:52 pmyes, MKA certs can be bought. so to everyone, be very very careful when buying. i hate stereotyping but its true - most malaysian breeders only think of $$ profit...

This post has been edited by malowie: Dec 28 2007, 07:52 PM

some ppl misunderstand n biased towards mongrel labelling them as naughty fellas.... but they r juz being more adventurous, independant n little smart ass.... if someone said mongrel is difficult or impossible to train, then he or she is juz not good enough... dun blame d dog