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Honours

Premiership (13): 1993, 1994, 1996, 1997, 1999, 2000, 2001, 2003, 2007, 2008, 2009, 2011, 2013
Division One Champions (7): 1908, 1911, 1952, 1956, 1957, 1965, 1967
Division Two Champions (2): 1936, 1975

European Cup/UEFA Champions League (3): 1968, 1999, 2008
European Cup-Winners' Cup (1): 1991
European Super Cup (1): 1991

FA Charity/Community Shield (19 (15 outright, 4 shared)): 1908, 1911, 1952, 1956, 1957, 1965*, 1967*, 1977*, 1983, 1990*, 1993, 1994, 1996, 1997, 2003, 2007, 2008, 2010, 2011 (* = joint holders)
FA Cup Winners (11): 1909, 1948, 1963, 1977, 1983, 1985, 1990, 1994, 1996, 1999, 2004
League Cup Winners (4): 1992, 2006, 2009, 2010

Toyota Inter-continental Cup Winners (1): 1999
FIFA Club World Cup (1): 2008

Managers

A. H. Albut [1892 - 1900]
James West [1900 - September 1903]
Ernest Magnall [10 October 1903 - 9 September 1912]
T. J. Wallworth [9 September 1912 - 20 October 1912]
John Bentley [28 October 1912 - 28 December 1914]
John Robson [28 December 1914 - 31 October 1921]
John Chapman [31 October 1921 - 8 October 1926]
Clarence Hildrith [8 October 1926 - 13 April 1927]
Herbert Bamlett [13 April 1927 - 9 November 1931]
Walter Crickmer [9 November 1931 - 13 July 1932]
Scott Duncan [13 July 1932 - 7 November 1937]
Walter Crickmer [9 November 1937 - 15 February 1945]
Matt Busby [1 October 1945 - 11 June 1969]
Jimmy Murphy [February 1958 - June 1958]
Wilf McGuinness [11 June 1969 - 29 December 1970]
Matt Busby [29 December 1970 - 8 June 1971]
Frank O'Farrell [8 June 1971 - 19 December 1972]
Tommy Docherty [22 December 1972 - 4 July 1977]
Dave Sexton [14 July 1977 - 29 April 1981]
Ron Atkinson [9 June 1981 - 6 November 1986]
Sir Alex Ferguson [6 November 1986 - 30 June 2013]
David Moyes [01 July 2013 - Present]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Manch..._and_statistics

Record Home Win: 10-0 v Anderlecht, 26/09/1956 (European Cup Preliminary Round, 2nd leg)
Record Home Defeat: 1-7 v Newcastle United, 10/09/1927 [Division 1]

Record Away Win: 8-1 v Nottingham Forest, 06/02/1999
Record Away Defeat: 0-7 v Blackburn Rovers, 10/04/1926 (Division 1) | 0-7 v Aston Villa, 27/12/1930 [Division 1] | 0-7 v Wolverhampton Wanderers, 26/12/1931 [Division 2]

Record Win: 10-0 v Anderlecht, 26/09/1956 (European Cup Preliminary Round, 2nd leg)
Record Defeat: 0-7 v Blackburn Rovers, 10/04/1926 (Division 1) | 0-7 v Aston Villa, 27/12/1930 [Division 1] | 0-7 v Wolverhampton Wanderers, 26/12/1931 [Division 2]

Record League Win: 10-1 v Wolves, 15/10/1892 (Division 1)
Record League Defeat: 0-7 v Blackburn Rovers, 10/04/1926 (Division 1) | 0-7 v Aston Villa, 27/12/1930 [Division 1] | 0-7 v Wolverhampton Wanderers, 26/12/1931 [Division 2]

Record Premier League Win: 9-0 v Ipswich Town, 04/03/1995
Record Premier League Defeat: 0-5 v Newcastle United, 20/10/1996 | 0-5 v Chelsea, 03/10/1999 | 1–6 v Manchester City, 23 October 2011

Record FA Cup Win: 8-0 v Yeovil Town, 12/02/1949
Record FA Cup Defeat: 1-7 v Burnley, 13/02/1901 [1st Round]

Record European Win: 10-0 v Anderlecht, 26/09/1956 (European Cup Preliminary Round, 2nd leg)
Record European Defeat: 0-5 v Sporting, 18/03/1964 [Cup Winners' Cup QF]

Record Champions League Win: 7-1 v Roma, 10/04/2007 [UCL QF, 2nd leg]

Record Home Attendance (At Old Trafford): 76,098 31/3/2007 Premier League (Man Utd vs Blackburn) (83,260 for United v Arsenal at Maine Road in 1948)

Record League Appearances: 659 (110) Ryan Giggs 1990 - Present (as of 06 May 2013) [940 (152) overall]

Record League Goalscorer: 199 [in 606 league appearances] Sir Bobby Charlton 1956/73

Record Transfer Fee Received: 80,000,000 pounds for Cristiano Ronaldo to Real Madrid (July 2009)

Record Transfer Fee Paid: 30,750,000 pounds for Dimitar Berbatov from Tottenham (August 2008)


As the world's biggest and richest club, Manchester United reach a global fanbase.

Part of the attraction for fans around the world has been the football luminaries, such as George Best and Sir Bobby Charlton, who have graced the Old Trafford turf in a Manchester United shirt over the years.

Recently, Manchester United have continued to attract or develop some of the game's biggest names, with England stalwarts such as Paul Scholes and David Beckham having been regular fixtures in the Reds line-up.

The Manchester United team, past and present, reads like a who's who of world football.

It is only fitting that a great team should grace a great stadium. And with Old Trafford's recent development and the closure of Wembley, the ground is easily the largest in English football, holding in excess of 60,000 fans.

Despite this capacity, the demand to see United in action is so great that tickets are hard to come by.

But it isn't only Manchester United fans who flock to Old Trafford. The standard of the ground is such that it regularly hosts high-profile games, most notably, the Champions League Final and Great Britain rugby league games.

Rock fans have also made use of the Reds's facilities, watching a number of high-profile acts at the ground.

But it's football that will forever be synonymous with the Reds famous ground - and with good reason.

The last decade has seen Manchester United under the shrewd leadership of Sir Alex Ferguson maintain a virtual stranglehold on the Premiership crown.

Manchester United has won the league no fewer than 18 times in their history. They are also Cup Kings too, winning the FA cup 11 times, the league cup 4 times, as well as winning the European Super Cup, European Cup Winner's Cup, and 3 times being crowned European Cup champions.

Manchester United has long become a name associated with success both on and off the pitch.

As club profits continue to grow, Manchester United have become one of the richest sports clubs on the planet.

With supporters club branches on every continent, it's hard to go any where in the world and not see somebody wearing the famous red shirt of Manchester United.

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Old Trafford

Nickname: The Red Devils

Ground: Old Trafford

Pitch Size: 116 x 76 yards (106.0704 x 69.4944 meter)

Capacity: 76,000

Address: Sir Matt Busby Way, Old Trafford, Manchester

Postcode: M160RA

Directions: From North: Leave the M60 at junction 12 for M602 (Salford / Manchester). At the end of M602 (Jtn 3) follow the signs for Salford Quays and Trafford Park. At the roundabout turn right into Trafford Road (A5063), then at the bridge over Manchester Ship canal, keep in the right hand lane and turn right. Next, follow this road round to Trafford Wharf Road, and then left onto Watersreach. Continue through the traffic lights onto Sir Matt Busby Way.

From South: Leave M6 at junction 19, then take the A56 towards Manchester Airport. Join the M56 to Manchester, going past the Airport and then follow the signs for the M60 (Leeds / Liverpool). Leave M60 at Jtn 7 (A56 Chester Road) following signs for Manchester United Football Club. Turn left into Sir Matt Busby Way.

Ticket prices: 25 pounds upwards, concessions from 12.50 pounds. Tickets for the home sections are usually only available to members of the club and are normally allocated by ballot.

Contact information: Ticket Office: 0161 868 8020
Main Telephone: 0161 868 8000

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QUOTE(zenix @ Nov 24 2009, 09:18 PM)
Hope Alien will sticky this info later.
Though written in 2006 so no Roy Keane yet.

Ex-United players that have moved on to become managers.

Written by Simon Stone (MARCH 22, 2006)

STEVE BRUCE (1987-1996): Took his first steps in management with Sheffield United in 1998, then swiftly moved on to Huddersfield, Wigan and Crystal Palace. Left Selhurst Park in acrimonious fashion after Birmingham targeted him as the replacement for Trevor Francis in 1991. Took Blues into the Premier League but after a heavy FA Cup defeat is struggling to keep his job.

MARTIN POWELL (1971-1983): Stylish and well-respected Scotland centre-half whose authoritative nature appeared to make him a natural for the management game. Lasted four months at Burnley.

SIR BOBBY CHARLTON (1956-1973): Arguably the finest English player of all time proved to be an unmitigated disaster as a manager. Claimed he was not given the resources to make a decent job of it at Preston but was never lured back into management following his departure after a single season.

STEVE COPPELL (1975-1983): After a knee injury cut his playing career short at just 28, Coppell turned his attention to management. Steered Crystal Palace into the FA Cup final and then third place in the old First Division - the Eagles' highest ever - the following season. It was the first of four stints in charge at Selhurst Park in a career which has seen him move to Manchester City (for only six games), Brentford and Brighton. Now at Reading and about to steer the Royals into the top flight for the first time.

PADDY CRERAND (1962-1971): A key figure in United's 1968 European Cup triumph, Crerand lasted five months at Northampton before getting the bullet and, like Charlton, never managed again.

MARK HUGHES (1983-86, 1988-95): Hughes was never tipped as a manager by Ferguson but has taken to the game with ease. Took Wales into the Euro 2004 play-offs. Took over at Blackburn shortly afterwards, steering Rovers away from danger in his first season. Currently in contention for a Champions League spot.

BRIAN KIDD (1967-1974): Another European Cup winner who proved to be a poor manager. Got itchy feet in 1998 after spending seven years as Sir Alex Ferguson's highly-rated assistant. Took command at Blackburn but dismissed six months later.

BRYAN ROBSON (1981-94): United's inspirational leader under Ron Atkinson and Ferguson. There are two schools of thought on his stint at Middlesbrough - he either spent lots and achieved little (relegation and two losing finals) or he laid the platform for the Teessiders to become an established Premiership outfit. Kept West Brom up in extraordinary fashion last year but back in trouble again this season.

GORDON STRACHAN (1984-89): Scotland international who won the FA Cup with United and the title of the pre-Premiership era with Leeds. Sacked after five years at when the Sky Blues lost top-flight status, then enjoyed success at Southampton - reaching the 2003 Cup final - before resigning to spend more time with his family. Now at Celtic, has recovered from a humiliating Champions League exit to Artmedia Bratislava, and, after winning his first trophy on Sunday in the CIS Insurance Cup, is set to clinch the Scottish Premier League.

NOBBY STILES (1960-71): Along with Charlton, one of only two Englishmen to have won the World Cup and European Cup, he replaced his former England and United team-mate at Preston, with limited success. After a brief stint in Vancouver, returned to England to take over as manager of West Brom. Sacked after five months, having gained just three wins.
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Season 2013/2014 Fixtures & Results * Last Update: 12/01/2014 *


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[Fixtures On manutd.com]

Please note, all dates are provisional and are heavily subject to change.

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Manchester United Squad Photo 2013/2014

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Manchester United 2013-2014 Squad List [Squad number - Player Name] * Last update: 16/08/2013 *

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Barclays Premier League squad numbers 2013/14

1. De Gea (GK); 2. Rafael; 3. Evra; 4. Jones; 5. Ferdinand; 6. Evans; 8. Anderson; 10. Rooney; 11. Giggs; 12. Smalling; 13. Lindegaard (GK); 14. Chicharito; 15. Vidic; 16. Carrick; 17. Nani; 18. Young; 19. Welbeck; 20. v. Persie; 21. Henríquez; 22. Fabio; 23. Cleverley; 24. Fletcher; 25. Valencia; 26. Kagawa; 27. Macheda; 28.Büttner; 29. Zaha; 30. Varela; 31. Wootton; 32. Powell; 33. Bébé; 34. Cole; 35. Lingard; 36. Vermijl; 38. M.Keane; 39. Thorpe; 40. Amos (GK); 42. Blackett; 44. Januzaj; 45. Petrucci; 48. W.Keane; 50. Johnstone (GK).


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Reon's Signatures Collections

Here you can find all the signatures created by our official Man Utd Street Talk signatures provider, Reon cool.gif

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Siggy 141-150 ** 27/04/2011 - New Siggy Added (#149-150) **

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Siggy 151-160 ** 02/06/2011 - New Siggy Added (#151-154) **

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post Dec 7 2013, 12:53 PM

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Tonight game is crucial. We MUST win to keep the title hopes alive or else. RVP chances of playing is 50%. Really hope Welbeck not on the line up.
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QUOTE(franco87 @ Dec 7 2013, 01:34 PM)
Tonight game is crucial. We MUST win to keep the title hopes alive or else. RVP chances of playing is 50%. Really hope Welbeck not on the line up.
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Lol. Lets be realistic, we need to win badly to keep
Champions league spot alive. We"ll rebuild and challenge for the title next season
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so our striker tonite will be hernandez and welbeck? hmm.gif
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heard RVP request for transfer?
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QUOTE(aladdin @ Dec 7 2013, 02:22 PM)
heard RVP request for transfer?
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QUOTE(state of abyssmal @ Dec 7 2013, 02:12 PM)
so our striker tonite will be hernandez and welbeck?  hmm.gif
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both perhaps if kagawa and RVP unfit yet. hope to see nani and adnan get a start
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Yes give Adnan a chance being that #10 again. brows.gif With Welbeck our "false 9" tongue.gif You never know, it might work. Remember, Ruud had been dropped before

because Saha Rooney Ronaldo combination was working and working well for the team/tactics. icon_rolleyes.gif
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please let it be hernandez kagawa adnan

welbeck stay at the bench please,unless he does magic.
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DM should play Hernandes / Kagawa / Januzaj upfront 2nite.
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Kagawa is not well la....

http://espnfc.com/news/story/_/id/1641061/...fitness?cc=4716

If he is unwell then it's better to let him recover first, December is going to be a damn busy month with plenty of games!

Same for RvP! Don't rush them back then they end up relapsing and being out for even longer!

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somehow i have bad feeling on tonight games.. without Rooney and Carrick... not sure what magic DM can do.. help us DM..
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QUOTE(sunblaze @ Dec 7 2013, 03:26 PM)
Kagawa is not well la....

http://espnfc.com/news/story/_/id/1641061/...fitness?cc=4716

If he is unwell then it's better to let him recover first, December is going to be a damn busy month with plenty of games!

Same for RvP! Don't rush them back then they end up relapsing and being out for even longer!
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there goes my hope for hernandez and kagawa combination.
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Match day! Hoping for a recovery from the lads, missing Rooney and RVP isnt making things better but I trust the lads to turn things around.

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it will be interesting on who will moyes play today
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asalkan bukan wellbeck....
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if welbz or fellaini gets to play any minute in the game, we will likely lose, draw at best vmad.gif

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Januzaj + Nani on both flank would be nice. And Kagawa behind Hernandez.

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QUOTE(franco87 @ Dec 7 2013, 04:04 PM)
Januzaj + Nani on both flank would be nice. And Kagawa behind Hernandez.
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hmm don't think kagawa will play since he was ill after the everton match.
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Newcastle haven't beaten United at Old Trafford since 1972, Moyes, please don't break this record again.
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hello fellow united fans... im guessing united will beat newcastle 2-1

being optimistic, moyes cant allow another slip up..
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Confirmed line up

de Gea

Rafael
Evans
Vidic
Evra

Nani
Jones
Cleverley
Januzaj

van Persie
Hernandez


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Stargin XI:

De Gea; Rafael, Evans, Vidic, Evra; Nani, Jones, Cleverley, Januzaj; Hernandez, van Persie.

subs:

Lindegaard, Ferdinand, Anderson, Valencia, Young, Zaha, Welbeck.
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have you seen our goal difference??? 4.... right now it seems like we are struggling to score goals rather than struggling to qualify.... I is SAD
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why cleverly? why la!!!!!
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he can tahan so many years without trophy with Arsenal. This is only half season lah!
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he can tahan so many years without trophy with Arsenal. This is only half season lah!
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i dont think it's about that - it's definitely something else
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fellaini play fb while team mate is battling >.<
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Afro too busy playing with phone rather thann watch the game - excellent signing
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No goals again...
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I'm not watching the game, but from the stats, Newcastle owning the game. Is that the situation?

Hope Zaha can play some part..
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I'm not watching the game, but from the stats, Newcastle owning the game. Is that the situation?

Hope Zaha can play some part..
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MU is mid table team now what.
See the players , see the manager. All mid table quality.
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bad luck ... not goal..
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Just as expected. I didnt put hope at all, judging from last match of us n newcastle already predict either draw or we losr
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Hope Zaha can play some part..
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loose or draw ... then moyes better get out la
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Lol united hasn't lost back to back home games since 2002 moyes is gonna break that record again.
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They play with no heart or desire to win right now... Damm sad. 10minutes more... Hopes fighting spirit is still there sad.gif
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maybe the players is showing protest against Moyes? like what the blues did to AVB...
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Never felt this down for so long watching man utd. At least pls qualify for ucl or we might have trouble getting good players nx season
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Never felt this down for so long watching man utd. At least pls qualify for ucl or we might have trouble getting good players nx season
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glazers must sacked moyes asap ...
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glazers must sacked moyes asap ...
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break how many records liao ah
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The last time i saw united that down is when sir alex give the boot to becks face..
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Don't think that time we in midtable..

It amazes me how a team of champions can fall so badly after changing the manager. Moyes was very wrong to change so many of the coaches..

All the best. We still got half season to catch up to top 4.
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Loss 2 home games in a row.
Lost to newcastle at OT in 17 years.
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Managers fault or players fault? Didnt manage to watch the game.
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When was the last time we saw that amount of people going back early, at Old Trafford?
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another record braking by moyes & his backroom staff is .... totally destroy a championship team for almost 2 decade within less than half of the season.

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Just stop with that crap. Moyes isn't here for an internship. Even if he can't match Sir Alex, there are certain targets to be met like finishing in the top 4.

As of now, United don't even look capable of doing that.

I think even the players don't believe in him. You can see it in the way they've been playing. Under Sir Alex, they would have bust a gut to get a goal when behind. Now they don't even look bothered.

United have been outplayed at home by almost every team they've met so far. And it's not down to bad luck too as United are struggling to even create goal scoring chances.

It might sound drastic but United should just sack him and get Sir Alex to take over until the end of the season. After that, get someone who is actually good enough to manage United.
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Sell all the players, keep the manager and his backroom staffs. Berdiri tegang di belakang Moyes! #sangattegang
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woohoo! we're around mid table now! That's such a huge achievement!

one sided win for Newcastle. I've no words for our performance. But I agree, Fergie time is all gone. It's disheartening to see but yet i'm still supporting. Oh well.

Players play a part in the blame, and also tactically. Whatever Moyes is doing, isn't working out in this season of fierce battle. Even S'oton and Newcastle and Everton are competing in the top half of the table. Drastic changes are needed to be in sight
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sell Rooney, RVP and we Have EVERTON RESERVES!!!
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Remember, Ferguson also facing the same moment as Moyes back in 1989, and he bounce back to create United and himself as one of the best manager and club in football history. Support United whatever happens.
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We dont score..thats the worst part..huhu
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QUOTE(onelove89 @ Dec 7 2013, 10:46 PM)
woohoo! we're around mid table now! That's such a huge achievement!

one sided win for Newcastle. I've no words for our performance. But I agree, Fergie time is all gone. It's disheartening to see but yet i'm still supporting. Oh well.

Players play a part in the blame, and also tactically. Whatever Moyes is doing, isn't working out in this season of fierce battle. Even S'oton and Newcastle and Everton are competing in the top half of the table. Drastic changes are needed to be in sight
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my bet is we wont see any drastic changes anytime soon.
no rumours about sacking moyes as well.. so i believe things will remain the same for the rest of the season.
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We create star..and moyes is one of it.. smile.gif soon..
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Remember, Ferguson also facing the same moment as Moyes back in 1989, and he bounce back to create United and himself as one of the best manager and club in football history. Support United whatever happens.
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I say this time and time again... Ferguson inherited a shitty team. Moyes inherited a defending champion.
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its just wrong to go with jones and cleverly. no creativity at all.
miss scholes & fletcher.

btw, what is cantona doing right now? is he busy? tongue.gif
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u dont ever go out of the stadium or switch off ur tv when United are trailing behind on 87min, because that is when the magic happens.

now?? its just sad to see sad.gif
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I say this time and time again... Ferguson inherited a shitty team. Moyes inherited a defending champion.
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it is some achievement to turn a champion team to a mid table with virtual same players. shakehead.gif icon_question.gif
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dude how can compare that time and now??? Sir alex was left with mediocre players... while moyes got so many world class players... and a title winning squad??? Support whatever???? Clearly moyes cannot manage United simple as that.. the players doesn't trust him at all from what I can see.. he just doesn't got the aura..
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decades of record keep getting broken
N years everton never won in OT
N years newcastle never won in OT

i cant even remember since when we unable to score in 2 straight home match. definately, didn't witness fans leaving early before end game:)

nevertheless will support moyes before chanting his sack next season. since the title is gone, he can lose all he want this season lol..


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Feckin Hell i am so devestated by this result. The way we played was unManchester United like, no passion no drive no flair. What irritates me more is that this is the exact same team that won the league last season and won it in style. This defeat is a reality check for United and how far we have fallen behind.

My Player Rating.

David "Donut" De Gea - 7/10 He did well throughout the game, nothing he can do to stop the ball from going in.

Rafael - 6/10 Rusty as hell. Needs game time and match fitness

Evans - 6/10 Meh

Vidic - 7/10 Typical Vida, gave everything he had.

Evra - 5/10 Bad header led to the goal. Did nothing today.

Phil "Greatest human Being Ever lived" Jones - 8.5/10 Excellent performance, showed heart and determination when others were invisible. Made
excellent tackles which kept us in the game.

Tom"WTF" Cleverly - 4/10 Extremely Average Player. Used to show potential and ability to move the ball. Showed none this season, a liability to the
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Adnan Januzaj - 7/10 Made decent runs, showed a good footballing brain. Talent. Still raw needs time to grow and mature.

Luis " What the feck" Nani - 5.5/10 His lack of consistency continues to puzzle me. Has all the talent in the world but cant seem to translate it on the
pitch. if we can get him to play well consistently he will be immense this season.

Cheech - 7.5/10 Showed passion, closed down the opponent , ran his socks of. The closest united came to scoring a goal.

RV " transfer request?" P - 6.5/10 - Played some good passes, definitely not 100%. Rusty as feck.
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I say this time and time again... Ferguson inherited a shitty team. Moyes inherited a defending champion.
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got some fans not born yet during that time , so they don't know what is MU situation

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You sure you got it right? In 1989, it wasn't about the manager, it was about a weak team. In 2013, do you think Moyes has a weak team? hmm.gif
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i just think that team selection is not getting done correctly. man marking for away games, jones, yes. but not for home games when we're supposed to get the win.
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Another history breakthrough (although the bad one), we will see major changes soon.its either manager or player will get the boot this summer.shame result, oh well shit happens
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Manchester United 0-1 Newcastle.

Manchester United 0-1 West Brom.

Manchester United 0-1 Everton.

ALL FIRST TIME IN OVER 20 YEARS

Manchester United - Record breaking team!
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Are u trying to say Moyes don't know how to inherit a good team and inject that continuity everyone has been saying he will? Plastic fannnn!!! Berdiri tegang di belakang Moyes!!! #sangattegang
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QUOTE(IpohGuyz @ Dec 7 2013, 10:55 PM)
decades of record keep getting broken
N years everton never won in OT
N years  newcastle never won in OT

i cant even remember since when we unable to score in 2 straight home match. definately, didn't witness fans leaving early before end game:)

nevertheless will support moyes before chanting his sack next season. since the title is gone, he can lose all he want this season lol..
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But I must agree, the title is gone. To add salt to wound, I doubt they will have European football next season.
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Manchester United 0-1 Newcastle.

Manchester United 0-1 West Brom.

Manchester United 0-1 Everton.

ALL FIRST TIME IN OVER 20 YEARS

Manchester United - Record breaking team!
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wes brom is not 1-2? or 2-3?
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Give moyes 3 more years... is ok not to win bpl n qualify for cl
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QUOTE(Rhadykall @ Dec 7 2013, 10:58 PM)
Are u trying to say Moyes don't know how to inherit a good team and inject that continuity everyone has been saying he will? Plastic fannnn!!! Berdiri tegang di belakang Moyes!!! #sangattegang
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Please sack moyes! he is out of his depth.
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Just from BT1 Ginola said he was scared to play at Old Trafford - now not anymore
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QUOTE(franco87 @ Dec 7 2013, 10:53 PM)
Inherit a good team does not mean you will be good managing them. History thought us that.  cool2.gif
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QUOTE(projectnew @ Dec 7 2013, 10:53 PM)
dude how can compare that time and now??? Sir alex was left with mediocre players... while moyes got so many world class players... and a title winning squad??? Support whatever???? Clearly moyes cannot manage United simple as that.. the players doesn't trust him at all from what I can see.. he just doesn't got the aura..
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The only 'world class' players in the squad is Wayne Rooney and Van Persie. The rest of the team are just mediocre/average players. Take the midfielders and wingers, good example of average players.
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QUOTE(stupid_cupid23 @ Dec 7 2013, 10:59 PM)
There is a difference between plastic fan and a blind fan. Obviously you are the latter.

Please sack moyes! he is out of his depth.
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I say this time and time again... Ferguson inherited a shitty team. Moyes inherited a defending champion.
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Only 8 home goals scored this season... really?
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Feckin Hell i am so devestated by this result. The way we played was unManchester United like, no passion no drive no flair. What irritates me more is that this is the exact same team that won the league last season and won it in style. This defeat is a reality check for United and how far we have fallen behind.

My Player Rating.

David "Donut" De Gea - 7/10 He did well throughout the game, nothing he can do to stop the ball from going in.

Rafael - 6/10 Rusty as hell. Needs game time and match fitness

Evans - 6/10 Meh

Vidic - 7/10 Typical Vida, gave everything he had.

Evra - 5/10 Bad header led to the goal. Did nothing today.

Phil "Greatest human Being Ever lived" Jones - 8.5/10 Excellent performance, showed heart and determination when others were invisible. Made 
                                                                              excellent tackles which kept us in the game.

Tom"WTF" Cleverly - 4/10 Extremely Average Player. Used to show potential and ability to move the ball. Showed none this season, a liability to the
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Adnan Januzaj - 7/10 Made decent runs, showed a good footballing brain. Talent. Still raw needs time to grow and mature.

Luis " What the feck" Nani - 5.5/10 His lack of consistency continues to puzzle me. Has all the talent in the world but cant seem to translate it on the
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Cheech - 11/10 Showed passion in getting penalty through diving, closed down the opponent , ran his socks of and dived like a dolphin. The closest united came to scoring a goal.

RV " transfer request?" P - 6.5/10 - Played some good passes, definitely not 100%. Rusty as feck.
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Plastic fans have no say in this matter. Berdiri tegang di belakang Moyes!!! #sangattegang
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QUOTE(nestlebliss @ Dec 7 2013, 11:02 PM)
to be fair imo, the team Moyes inherited wasnt the best united team. Fergie never solved the midfield problem ever since Keano left. United's success was primarily due to the Fergie effect and a testament to his managing quality, eking every ounce of performance from above average players. Now that the fergie effect is gone, we have to face the harsh reality that the team is weak.
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missing carrick show we miss alot! weak team or not, yeah it's the same team as last year with few add ons. definately the manager prob
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QUOTE(andrewtho @ Dec 7 2013, 11:01 PM)
The only 'world class' players in the squad is Wayne Rooney and Van Persie. The rest of the team are just mediocre/average players. Take the midfielders and wingers, good example of average players.
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6 yrs contract to moyes is a big mistake too.
He tot he can go for 'honeymoon' for another 2-3 yrs.
No need to rush
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Ginola nailed in on the head - the players dont believe in the manager
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What can we say about today's match?

RUBBISH!
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But definitely not as weak as this.
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Ginola nailed in on the head - the players dont believe in the manager
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Im starting to feel there is a conspiracy against the manager. The players lacked passion/motivation and urgency. Let's hope it's not true.
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QUOTE(andrewtho @ Dec 7 2013, 11:01 PM)
The only 'world class' players in the squad is Wayne Rooney and Van Persie. The rest of the team are just mediocre/average players. Take the midfielders and wingers, good example of average players.
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6 yrs contract to moyes is a big mistake too.
He tot he can go for 'honeymoon' for another 2-3 yrs.
No need to rush
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Rio Ferdinand questions David Moyes's last-gasp team selection policy


Rio Ferdinand has questioned David Moyes's policy of selecting the Manchester United team close to kick-off, with the defender claiming it can turn him into a "madman" wondering if he has been chosen.

The 34-year-old suggested that Sir Alex Ferguson's policy of naming his XI well before the match made it easier for players to build the requisite intensity on match day.

"This manager's a bit different in that he doesn't name the team beforehand. You don't really get to know the team," Ferdinand told BT Sport. "The old manager used to give you a little bit of an idea if you'd be playing and stuff.

"When you know you're playing, the intensity goes up a little bit more on match day. That's what you need to try to make sure you're doing, even if you don't know you'll be playing – to try to get to that intensity you'd be at when you know you're playing.

"It's hard. It's hard to do that mentally because you spend a lot of nervous energy thinking: 'Am I playing' or 'Am I not playing?' and you're just going round in circles in your head and turning into a madman."

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QUOTE(exquisite_markas @ Dec 7 2013, 10:56 PM)
You sure you got it right? In 1989, it wasn't about the manager, it was about a weak team. In 2013, do you think Moyes has a weak team?  hmm.gif
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To a degree. SAF worked his magic to drag this team to the title last season, but honestly speaking even then it has been well known that the team is weak in some areas. See our results in Europe the last 2 years? We have had stronger teams than this, for sure.

Part of the problem is fans keep on harping about this being a title winning squad, but they don't add on that SAF was what made the squad tick. Look at the squad, how many of them can you say are the best in their position in the entire league, let alone one of the best in Europe? De Gea, RvP, Rooney are probably the obvious ones that spring to mind immediately. You might be able to argue for Carrick and Rafael too. After that? SAF really worked his magic on the team to make it better than the sum of its parts, but now he is retired (and don't forget Scholes also retired).

You want to say DM isn't doing what SAF did? Definitely, agreed. SAF is a legend in the modern game for a reason.

Not even half the season gone after the biggest change the club has had in 27 years, and people are already reacting so harshly... I can understand being damn unhappy with the results, I'm angry too.. but hating on the manager so quickly.. sigh. Assume you get your wish and he is sacked, who would even replace him? And even if your dream manager was to come in, do you think a new manager wouldn't need time to settle in?

Transitional season is going to be brutal on everyone. Just hope our squad has better luck with injuries, that January brings good reinforcements, and that DM and his team learns fast.




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even SAF take over the team, with 15points (mayb)behind i dont think we will win d league, ini semua salah Edward
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Rio Ferdinand questions David Moyes's last-gasp team selection policy
Rio Ferdinand has questioned David Moyes's policy of selecting the Manchester United team close to kick-off, with the defender claiming it can turn him into a "madman" wondering if he has been chosen.

The 34-year-old suggested that Sir Alex Ferguson's policy of naming his XI well before the match made it easier for players to build the requisite intensity on match day.

"This manager's a bit different in that he doesn't name the team beforehand. You don't really get to know the team," Ferdinand told BT Sport. "The old manager used to give you a little bit of an idea if you'd be playing and stuff.

"When you know you're playing, the intensity goes up a little bit more on match day. That's what you need to try to make sure you're doing, even if you don't know you'll be playing – to try to get to that intensity you'd be at when you know you're playing.

"It's hard. It's hard to do that mentally because you spend a lot of nervous energy thinking: 'Am I playing' or 'Am I not playing?' and you're just going round in circles in your head and turning into a madman."

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QUOTE(andrewtho @ Dec 7 2013, 11:08 PM)
Im starting to feel there is a conspiracy against the manager. The players lacked passion/motivation and urgency. Let's hope it's not true.
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QUOTE(Ramli08 @ Dec 7 2013, 11:12 PM)
even SAF take over the team, with 15points (mayb)behind i dont think we will win d league, ini semua salah Edward
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QUOTE(James831 @ Dec 7 2013, 11:12 PM)
the last thing manutd needed is players turn against own manager.
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Sadly thats seems to be happening now.
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BT Sports to me has the best pre game and after game coverage - excellent
Talk facts and not kok
Even Hargreaves was good
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Nice goal  thumbup.gif  thumbup.gif

i start to be not so tegang in the back of Moyes doh.gif
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Different managers have a different way to reach an objective. World class team for one could be shyte for other.

Man united fan cannot just expect the next manager to be exact copy of af.



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QUOTE(andrewtho @ Dec 7 2013, 11:01 PM)
The only 'world class' players in the squad is Wayne Rooney and Van Persie. The rest of the team are just mediocre/average players. Take the midfielders and wingers, good example of average players.
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OMG we agree on something @_@ Although I rate De Gea, Carrick, and Rafael as above average tongue.gif In Rafael's case though, he has been injured for a month and his recent performances have suffered as a result.
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QUOTE(areankim @ Dec 7 2013, 11:14 PM)
Sadly thats seems to be happening now.
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RvP dont look too happy hmm.gif
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Where are the rest of the Tegang Brigade? Am I the only one here? Berdiri tegang di belakang Moyes! #sangattegang
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Where are the rest of the Tegang Brigade? Am I the only one here? Berdiri tegang di belakang Moyes! #sangattegang
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RvP dont look too happy  hmm.gif
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How to look happy when he is not fully recovered from injury, plays, and the team loses? If he's smiling and happy people would be wondering wtf is he so happy about
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How to look happy when he is not fully recovered from injury, plays, and the team loses? If he's smiling and happy people would be wondering wtf is he so happy about
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well rumor has it he handed a transfer request...
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QUOTE(Ramli08 @ Dec 7 2013, 11:12 PM)
even SAF take over the team, with 15points (mayb)behind i dont think we will win d league, ini semua salah Edward
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lolz the meltdown
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QUOTE(bakula @ Dec 7 2013, 10:24 PM)
Your job now is to stand behind your manager. Remember how many years before SAF won a title?
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QUOTE(sunblaze @ Dec 7 2013, 11:12 PM)
To a degree. SAF worked his magic to drag this team to the title last season, but honestly speaking even then it has been well known that the team is weak in some areas. See our results in Europe the last 2 years? We have had stronger teams than this, for sure.

Part of the problem is fans keep on harping about this being a title winning squad, but they don't add on that SAF was what made the squad tick. Look at the squad, how many of them can you say are the best in their position in the entire league, let alone one of the best in Europe? De Gea, RvP, Rooney are probably the obvious ones that spring to mind immediately. You might be able to argue for Carrick and Rafael too. After that? SAF really worked his magic on the team to make it better than the sum of its parts, but now he is retired (and don't forget Scholes also retired).

You want to say DM isn't doing what SAF did? Definitely, agreed. SAF is a legend in the modern game for a reason.

Not even half the season gone after the biggest change the club has had in 27 years, and people are already reacting so harshly... I can understand being damn unhappy with the results, I'm angry too.. but hating on the manager so quickly.. sigh. Assume you get your wish and he is sacked, who would even replace him? And even if your dream manager was to come in, do you think a new manager wouldn't need time to settle in?

Transitional season is going to be brutal on everyone. Just hope our squad has better luck with injuries, that January brings good reinforcements, and that DM and his team learns fast.
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the summer transfer window was a complete catastrophe imo...long cut short, as soon as the transfer window ended i was already looking forward to january hoping more midfield and even defensive reinforcements...always had that tiny hope of clev or ando finally coming out of their shell but too bad they dont...

on another sidenote its kinda pathetic to see some ppl here oni knw channel their frustration on moyes against the others who chose to heed saf's words at the end of last season, keep being grumpy guys laugh.gif
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lolz the meltdown
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QUOTE(Rhadykall @ Dec 7 2013, 11:17 PM)
Where are the rest of the Tegang Brigade? Am I the only one here? Berdiri tegang di belakang Moyes! #sangattegang
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he's got to go if we failed to qualify for CL spot
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Because old members scared to comment
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Because old members busy standing tegang behind moyes?
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QUOTE(SGSuser @ Dec 7 2013, 11:21 PM)
completely agree

the summer transfer window was a complete catastrophe imo...long cut short, as soon as the transfer window ended i was already looking forward to january hoping more midfield and even defensive reinforcements...always had that tiny hope of clev or ando finally coming out of their shell but too bad they dont...

on another sidenote its kinda pathetic to see some ppl here oni knw channel their frustration on moyes against the others who chose to heed saf's words at the end of last season, keep being grumpy guys laugh.gif
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err...meltdown is appropriate?  blink.gif
inner peace bro....inner peace....

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QUOTE(O-haiyo @ Dec 7 2013, 11:22 PM)
he's got to go if we failed to qualify for CL spot
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well rumor has it he handed a transfer request...
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really? gosh, that'll be disastrous. Not like our players are having high morale at the moment.

I agree, last time whenever we are trailing, even till the 90th minute I'm still holding my breath for wonders, and we deliver. now, when I saw 1-0 a 67", I'm like, oh gosh, we're screwed. draw or lose, either one, both are bad enough at the moment.

I doubt we'll get CL place this season, and that'll screw a lot of people over. And to be fair, it's not right given the team left behind. Stand behind the manager? yes gladly to do so, but please realize there are things to do. Right now things are crumbling. last thing we need is us digging into our banks for some mediocre players during jan transfer.... unless some wonder kid wants to join for some odd reasons given our status now. =/ things are bleak.
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the arrogant move to dismiss all key personal in the backroom staff of last season is haunting Moyes back now.
its better to have Phil Neville than Rene Meulensteen?

SAF surely does not leave his successor hanging. There must be transfer targets that he identified and recommended..
but Moyes decided to chase the one who doesnt want to come, Fabregas all summer and signed Fellaini on the last day

on the cockiness part, yes a bit like SAF. on footballing part, hell no.
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Not moyes fault obviously .. Just his first season
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You mean first season in BPL? Or first season in MU?

Pellegrini first season in BPL...but where are they now? What kind of results are they producing as compare to moyes, 11 or more years in English PL?

Though I respect SAF that we must berdiri tegang behind Moyes, I do.
But we must be realistic sometimes. With this kind of game performance and his bad decisions, and with his dunno how many years in EPL....how?
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inner peace bro....inner peace....

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Juz another shitty performance from Man Utd.
Have to agree that what we have now is an average team. The different is, the manager.
Juz hope that this january transfer will bring us some luck. No another disaster.
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Remember, Ferguson also facing the same moment as Moyes back in 1989, and he bounce back to create United and himself as one of the best manager and club in football history. Support United whatever happens.
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Yes I remember. But do you remember that when Ferguson took over the club, MU was just an average team. What the hell is MU anyway at that time?

Now, Moyes took over a champion club.


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Different managers have a different way to reach an objective. World class team for one could be shyte for other.

Man united fan cannot just expect the next manager to be exact copy of af.
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QUOTE(king_eric @ Dec 7 2013, 10:51 PM)
its just wrong to go with jones and cleverly. no creativity at all.
miss scholes & fletcher.

btw, what is cantona doing right now? is he busy? tongue.gif
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Jones is OK at that position. We need someone to be the bulldozer over there.

but cleverly? Everytime when he gets the ball, the will only start to think "hmmm, now...where should I pass the ball to? hmmmmm"

By the time he made up his mind, newcastle players will closed down on him.

Then he will "hmmmm...newcastle players are surrounding me now. OK OK, i'll back pass".



Can you see the difference when Anderson came in?


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Inherit a good team does not mean you will be good managing them. History thought us that.  cool2.gif
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To a degree. SAF worked his magic to drag this team to the title last season, but honestly speaking even then it has been well known that the team is weak in some areas. See our results in Europe the last 2 years? We have had stronger teams than this, for sure.

Part of the problem is fans keep on harping about this being a title winning squad, but they don't add on that SAF was what made the squad tick. Look at the squad, how many of them can you say are the best in their position in the entire league, let alone one of the best in Europe? De Gea, RvP, Rooney are probably the obvious ones that spring to mind immediately. You might be able to argue for Carrick and Rafael too. After that? SAF really worked his magic on the team to make it better than the sum of its parts, but now he is retired (and don't forget Scholes also retired).

You want to say DM isn't doing what SAF did? Definitely, agreed. SAF is a legend in the modern game for a reason.

Not even half the season gone after the biggest change the club has had in 27 years, and people are already reacting so harshly... I can understand being damn unhappy with the results, I'm angry too.. but hating on the manager so quickly.. sigh. Assume you get your wish and he is sacked, who would even replace him? And even if your dream manager was to come in, do you think a new manager wouldn't need time to settle in?

Transitional season is going to be brutal on everyone. Just hope our squad has better luck with injuries, that January brings good reinforcements, and that DM and his team learns fast.
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That why I commented here early if we take out De Gea, Rooney, RVP, Carrick, Evra and probably Rafael, we just an above average team. What make them an average team to become champion team is due to Ferguson and backroom staff hardwork. I don't blame transfer window,but instead I blame sudden change of backroom staff. Steve Round over Mike Phelan and Phil Neville over Rene Meulensteen?? Not disrespectful to them,but as far I can see, they not up to our standard as backroom staff. As you can see,after we down 1-0 or even 0-0, we can't come out with an alternative plan, the players still not motivated. I'm glad if they can just prove me wrong.

Now we will see the true color of the Glazer family. Will they as patience/supportive as Arsenal owner,or just another Russian/Arab owner? I will still support Moyes as long as he still manage Man United. If he really did get sack, I hope our next manager will be our baby assassin, Solskjær.

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You sure you got it right? In 1989, it wasn't about the manager, it was about a weak team. In 2013, do you think Moyes has a weak team?  hmm.gif
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Well it's quite painful to watch our state of play right now. Each time we have the ball we either lose it or lump it up front. No creativity in the middle park and our strikers are starve off decent services.

I would like to put on the blame on certain individuals (yeah i know evra was culpable for that goal, madness defending btw) but the rest of the players really didn't gave half a shite on what's going on.

Credit to Chicarito though he was hassling their players like I've never seen him done before, its not his fault or RVP for not scoring the goals our midfields just didn't provide them any.

Don't know what will happen next week but if we do lose again alarm bell would start ringing. Hopefully with Rooney back in the side again things will look a bit better.
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stick with moyes till end of season, if we failed to get top 4, then he got to go
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Different managers have a different way to reach an objective. World class team for one could be shyte for other.

Man united fan cannot just expect the next manager to be exact copy of af.
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I'm not expecting DM to give the same result as SAF. But at least play better and more threatening football.
Look at the way they play with Newcastle. The boys just do not have any ideas on how to bring the ball forward and attack. No tactics, no strategy, no idea.

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QUOTE(skyblu3 @ Dec 7 2013, 11:33 PM)
Jones is OK at that position.  We need someone to be the bulldozer over there.

but cleverly?  Everytime when he gets the ball, the will only start to think "hmmm, now...where should I pass the ball to?  hmmmmm"

By the time he made up his mind, newcastle players will closed down on him. 

Then he will "hmmmm...newcastle players are surrounding me now.  OK OK, i'll back pass".
Can you see the difference when Anderson came in?
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if only anderson has the fitness to finish 90mins...
it will be great....
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if only anderson has the fitness to finish 90mins...
it will be great....
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tbh, I prefer to see him play than Cleverly.


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Next game, next Sunday...AWAY, Aston Villa.

What do you think?
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QUOTE(beck_ken @ Dec 7 2013, 11:34 PM)
That why I commented here early if we take out De Gea, Rooney, RVP, Carrick, Evra and probably Rafael, we just an above average team. What make them an average team to become champion team is due to Ferguson and backroom staff hardwork. I don't blame transfer window,but instead I blame sudden change of backroom staff. Steve Round over Mike Phelan and Phil Neville over Rene Meulensteen?? Not disrespectful to them,but as far I can see, they not up to our standard as backroom staff.  As you can see,after we down 1-0 or even 0-0, we can't come out with an alternative plan, the players still not motivated. I'm glad if they can just prove me wrong.

Now we will see the true color of the Glazer family. Will they as patience/supportive as Arsenal owner,or just another Russian/Arab owner? I will still support Moyes as long as he still manage Man United. If he really did get sack, I hope our next manager will be our baby assassin, Solskjær.
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u get mid table coaches, u play mid table football.. why need to dismiss all of them? cant Moyes just add a couple of his guys in?

Mourinho did that with Chelsea this season, he just bring in two guys.
Pellegrini did dismiss all but Brian Kidd at City.
other league, Pep Guardiola only brought in two of his trusted people.

strangely they all did quite well as we all can see
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A project should only be judged on his third season. First season biasenye suck it in jer.

Tgk how well rodgers is doing with liverpool.
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stick with moyes till end of season, if we failed to get top 4, then he got to go
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world class midfield wish to play for moyes ? i don't think so
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A project should only be judged on his third season. First season biasenye suck it in jer.

Tgk how well rodgers is doing with liverpool.
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Rodgers taken over mid table team la..
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QUOTE(silvertoes @ Dec 8 2013, 12:00 AM)
u get mid table coaches, u play mid table football.. why need to dismiss all of them? cant Moyes just add a couple of his guys in?

Mourinho did that with Chelsea this season, he just bring in two guys.
Pellegrini did dismiss all but Brian Kidd at City.
other league, Pep Guardiola only brought in two of his trusted people.

strangely they all did quite well as we all can see
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Citeh now got 2 assistant manager, one is pellegrini bring from Malaga while retain Brian kid. David Platt resign when mancini sacked. It's normal for pellegrini to bring first team coach and another new to coach. Why we can't just like Citeh, get 2 assistant manager? Overhauling of backroom staff really haunt us back,not even half of the season
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QUOTE(aressandro10 @ Dec 8 2013, 12:01 AM)
A project should only be judged on his third season. First season biasenye suck it in jer.

Tgk how well rodgers is doing with liverpool.
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When a manager inherit a group of players that won the league in the previous season + u sign one of the best player from his ex club, but needs 3 full seasons to see results? That is no good manager sweat.gif

Everton and Newcastle did not win here for a very long time, 20+ years at least. This season really is record breaking one.
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A project should only be judged on his third season. First season biasenye suck it in jer.

Tgk how well rodgers is doing with liverpool.
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jangan samakan moyes dgn carlos,pep,mourinho
bloody hell.. RM,Bayern and chelsea full with superstar
just need a little tweak then it done
man utd team rite now is average.. man utd atleast need 5-6 new players rite now.... u see how stress DM on that match
aku sungguh kesian kat DM sekarang ni
to much pressure on him
nak jadi macam SAF bukan senang.. sekurang kurangnya 3 season
remember brendan rogers? the kops is not midtable team..liverpool ialah team TOP 4..
i fcking hate ppl that only support for glory
dude if u want win so badly every season
go sapot barce or bayern

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why people here assume brendan
why not robert martinez?
he inherited moyes everton team
everton are much worse shape than MU

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Seeing some comments who simply tell people he's a plastic or a true fan really makes me Lol. Rarely we see a new hired manager did his job well in first season. Does sacking Moyes will get United back on track?Does signing Mourinho will do the job? I mean look at Brendan Rodgers, need more than 2yrs to develop a quality team. We seriously need to replace our CM and winger as they do not provide good opening and creativity. Just my 2cents smile.gif
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QUOTE(john_white @ Dec 8 2013, 01:09 AM)
jangan samakan moyes dgn carlos,pep,mourinho
bloody hell.. RM,Bayern and chelsea full with superstar
just need a little tweak then it done
man utd team rite now is average.. man utd atleast need 5-6 new players rite now.... u see how stress DM on that match
aku sungguh kesian kat DM sekarang ni
to much pressure on him
nak jadi macam SAF bukan senang.. sekurang kurangnya 3 season
remember brendan rogers? the kops is not midtable team..liverpool ialah team TOP 4..
i fcking hate ppl that only support for glory
dude if u want win so badly every season
go sapot barce or bayern
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What weed are you smoking? Liverpool top 4? Can you even remember the last time they were in the CL?
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What weed are you smoking? Liverpool top 4? Can you even remember the last time they were in the CL?
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What weed are you smoking? Liverpool top 4? Can you even remember the last time they were in the CL?
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QUOTE(K.H.A.I @ Dec 8 2013, 01:12 AM)
why people here assume brendan
why not robert martinez?
he inherited moyes everton team
everton are much worse shape than MU
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why Jose cant utilized mazacar while rafa can get the best point out of the trio in the same team as chelsea?

why Rafa failed to make impact for inter with the same player as jose did win the cup?


it's funny people comparing this manager to this manager while it's all about the football philosophy that matter much

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I cant remember when was the last time manu couldnt qualify for CL.
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Before it was even known as the CL.
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actually its infergiewetrust and not inmoyeswetrust..

still not calling dm head since fergie not doing so. support him memang susah la with this result, but we have to be patient as fergie. at least we can sleep and wait for next week. dm sure having sleepless nights d lol.

if dm is not picked by fergie, i think he got sack long time long time ago.
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Its not the PLAYERS its the continued lack of Drive from the Manager...his tactics, style isnt compatible to ManUtd...I'm sorry but Sir Alex greatest mistake was signing this guy.....He's out of his element..he's outta his league....What he needs to do is call SIR ALEX for HELP in the LEAGUE and TRANSFER MARKET
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QUOTE(john_white @ Dec 8 2013, 01:09 AM)
jangan samakan moyes dgn carlos,pep,mourinho
bloody hell.. RM,Bayern and chelsea full with superstar
just need a little tweak then it done
man utd team rite now is average.. man utd atleast need 5-6 new players rite now.... u see how stress DM on that match
aku sungguh kesian kat DM sekarang ni
to much pressure on him
nak jadi macam SAF bukan senang.. sekurang kurangnya 3 season
remember brendan rogers? the kops is not midtable team..liverpool ialah team TOP 4..
i fcking hate ppl that only support for glory
dude if u want win so badly every season
go sapot barce or bayern
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6 Things We Learned At OT..To be fair,

1. David Moyes Keep "BREAKING" Manchester United History. For the first time in 41 years, Manchester United fell to Newcastle United at Old Trafford.

2. David Moyes was "BOOED" off by majority of Angry United Fans. As Newcastle United enjoyed their victory, United fans sped for the "EXIT" leaving OT before the match is finished.

3. As Yohan "CABAYE" Scores At Old Trafford. Clearly, Moyes should have bought 20 million Cabaye, NOT 28 million Fellaini

4. As the visitors enjoyed their victory (2 times in a row ). Clearly, Moyes is "UNABLE TO PICK" the right 11 Starting lineup to start a­ match and can't make a comeback with his substitution just shows his lack of tactical knowledge and no solid back-up plans. Repeating the Old Same Mistakes All over Again.

5. When you're in trouble you need an inspiration but Clearly United players are "NOT STANDING" for Moyes. Because there was no team spirit at all! Maybe David Moyes is losing the dressing room. Hopefully not yet

6. David Moyes said he got really-really top end players, great players to work with. So, Manchester United fans "RIGHT TO CRITICS or QUESTION" David Moyes after sorry start

It is also disheartening when the supporters don't get behind the team. Today, from the 85th minute onwards, many so called supporters were leaving and few remained after the final whistle letting the players go back to the tunnel... alone! that's not the way! come on look at Liverpool... I don't think I was even born the last time they won the league or came even close!!... yet anfield roars every season: never walk alone..

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QUOTE(linux_osx @ Dec 8 2013, 02:43 AM)
memang confirm ke lepas 3season jadi macam saf? whistling.gif
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takde orang ckp pun bleh jadi macam SAF
tapi buleh berjaya
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takde orang ckp pun bleh jadi macam SAF
tapi buleh berjaya
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bagi dia 3 season tengok macam mana,separuh team dari player dia sendiri masa tu..baru tahu pilihan tepat saf atau tidak

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Maybe all this losing is part of david gill and sir alex's plan to force the glazers to sell the club?? While they realise the club is going nowhere with the glazers milking the clubs finances.. maybe they do it to save the club??
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QUOTE(projectnew @ Dec 8 2013, 03:25 AM)
Maybe all this losing is part of david gill and sir alex's plan to force the glazers to sell the club?? While they realise the club is going nowhere with the glazers milking the clubs finances.. maybe they do it to save the club??
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Moyes is a joke... Continually breaking record..
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Aiyo please stop saying give Moyes 3 seasons like Liverpool LOL.

Liverpool did not win the EPL for goodness sake, they were challenging for the top no3-6. so Rodgers used 3 season to transform them into title challengers this season. Anyhow, credits to him.
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I heard this is all planed by sir Alex???? Moyes will always be a manager a club look for to survive in EPL, he is definitely not a winner. This was Sir Alex plan bcs you can see after all this time every people are still talking about him Sir Alex. If man utd took Mourinho as manager I'm sure Sir Alex would be forgotten by now???
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i hope DM win atleast 1 trophy
UCL maybe? :|
please find evra replacement.. i think we concede to many goal from evra side
evra is a great player but he getting old or maybe he want to join running man? tongue.gif
i dont want to talk about moyes rite now.. lets talk about what we got rite now
but clearly we need to find many players that can improve man utd
era evra+park ji sung sudah tamat..
nani,young,evra,cleverely,welbek,anderson,ferdinand ni dah out
fuhh i still thinking.. how did SAF manage this team..



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I would believe in him if he at least tried to change something. We should have gone for Pochettino or Martinez instead of Moyes. The above two play attacking and exciting football and they at least try and have successfully implemented their ideas and style into their teams. Where as Moyes is all about safety first and quite honestly I cannot see what he adds or brings to Man Utd. I would be glad if Fergie returns and this clown get sacked.
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As a rival fan, I rarely drop by here n post comments but to those who commented that moyes ought to be given time because Brendan has manage to restore liverpool to title contenders it in 2 seasons has no freaking clue what's going on

First and foremost, he inherited an epl winning team but yet fail to reproduce the same results; it shows that the quality of the players is there but moyes doesn't know how to bring the best out of his players like saf did.

Secondly, to use Brendan Rodgers example as a justification to give managers more time to run the club is laughable. Brendan Rodger's liverpool is still a work in progress. If I'm honest, liv is sitting where they r now because of individual brilliances, n not because of BR's tactical nous nor his ability to change a game. There's no guarantee that all managers will become saf in three years, mind you. BR has not convinced liv fans yet that he is the man for the job, although we still back him through n through for the sake of the club.

You don't need 3 years to see if one is a good manager or not. Moyes is clearly out of his depth to manage Man U now. Wake up now n smell the coffee. Stop alienating the fans who criticized him because they are the real real genuine Man U fans who wants the best for this club.

Peace out

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U guys actually have a creative midfielder by the name of pogba. Of cuz he is gone now. U can thank fergie for that.
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QUOTE(carloz28 @ Dec 8 2013, 06:41 AM)
As a rival fan, I rarely drop by here n understand why he wasnt the first cments but to those who commented that moyes ought to be given time because Brendan has manage to restore liverpool to title contenders it in 2 seasons has no freaking clue what's going on

First and foremost, he inherited an epl winning team but yet fail to reproduce the same results; it shows that the quality of the players is there but moyes doesn't know how to bring the best out of his players like saf did.

Secondly, to use Brendan Rodgers example as a justification to give managers more time to run the club is laughable. Brendan Rodger's liverpool is still a work in progress. If I'm honest, liv is sitting where they r now because of individual brilliances, n not because of BR's tactical nous nor his ability to change a game. There's no guarantee that all managers will become saf in three years, mind you. BR has not convinced liv fans yet that he is the man for the job, although we still back him through n through for the sake of the club.

You don't need 3 years to see if one is a good manager or not. Moyes is clearly out of his depth to manage Man U now. Wake up now n smell the coffee. Stop alienating the fans who criticized him because they are the real real genuine Man U fans who wants the best for this club.

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well said.

if fans want to blame someone, i believe SAF is the person.
He shoulda give his asstant a chance instead of giving it to DM. Even JM cant understand why he wasnt the first choice.

imo, DM is too soft to control this team.
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nah, im still supporting Moyes. clearly he is not half as good as SAF. but changing manager in December/ mid season are madness. its not United. if it up to me, im still believe him and give another season. call me delusion.

SAF chose him and still got influence in OT. i believe Glazers and United top officials will back Moyes, at least until next May.

he still can save our season. win one of domestic cups will fast track us to Europa League ticket, or shooting the star, winning CL (and get CL ticket). the league is hopeless. i aim for top 6 now.
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Well, this is depressing cry.gif At least in the EPL. We are doing well in the CL so far so that's a plus point. DM is not that bad, but not special either.

Last night, we lack the creativity. The intensity and the energy is there, but lack of intelligence in the game. Cleverley is a decent player, but he is not the creative

one. Should have given Anderson the nod instead of Cleverley. Inclusion of Nani, Janujaz, RvP and Hernandez was plausible but no one to pull the strings in the

middle. Anderson is no messiah, but to me he is the more creative player than Cleverley. January window couldn't come soon enough for DM. I hope he will be

brave enough to ring the necessary changes. Maybe not turning this team into all-conquering like what SAF did (yet), but at least make a team that has a certain

identity to it. Now, it's all a bit of mix and match. Part of transition period, eh? blush.gif
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Mourinho? His team just lost to Stoke. I thought they have like 3136965 best midfielders in the EPL? tongue.gif

Well, other managers like Mourinho is not without their mistakes too. They have Lukaku but instead letting him go to Everton and suddenly making Martinez the

better manager than Moyes. Let's see where Everton will be without player like Lukaku, eh? brows.gif

Either way, DM should do something about the team. Be it change of tactics, training settings, staff or players. Clearly, it is not working for him, at least in the

EPL.
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Many had say DM inherited a title winning team. But I think the team he inherited was company with lots of uncertainty, declining players, player out of form, young players and etc. Its a team already in process of of transition before DM takes over...
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Then again, it shows how far is the difference of abilities between SAF and DM tongue.gif SAF able to take the team to win the title "without proper midfield" last season.

Still, can't take away this losing feeling. cry.gif sweat.gif rclxub.gif
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Then again, it shows how far is the difference of abilities between SAF and DM  tongue.gif SAF able to take the team to win the title "without proper midfield" last season.

Still, can't take away this losing feeling.  cry.gif  sweat.gif  rclxub.gif
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Cant compare SAF and DM. SAF knows all the players like the back of his hands. Heck SAF could turn Stoke into a top 4 team tongue.gif .

DM is only here nearly 1/2 season. Give him time to build his own team(2 seasons? ). If he doesnt turn things around by then its time to find a new man.


Losing hurts , it hurts a lot since younger fans who grew up during SAF era have never been in this position. cry.gif
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That's why it is kind of baffling to see fans suddenly turning their back of DM, when he is not that bad (well in the EPL it is kind of bad at the moment cry.gif ).

I am not comparing SAF to DM, but just saying that not anyone can come to United as just turn things around in a matter of not even a season has gone. SAF did

it before by making mistakes in UCL, but DM so far has done nothing wrong in European stage. He is not that bad, mind you. I guess we have to wait and see what

he will do in January. Baines should be short term solution, but let's hope DM won't spend too much on him alone. Looking at form, Baines should not be more than

10 mil IMHO. Evra need his capable back-2-back too. He can't go on playing every game every season now. Maybe time for Mr. Butt to shine? blush.gif brows.gif
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Why SAF never give chance to Mike Phelan to take over? At least Mike knows the club inside / out.


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Little wonder the reaction at the end was one of anger from the home supporters, who watched virtually the same group of players they booed off today clinch a 20th title by 11 points less than seven months ago.

There goes my argument. Almost the same group of players la. If it's not the manager's fault, whose fault?

DM just couldn't find the magic touch that SAF has to bring out the best in his players. The biggest difference is SAF's presence in the changing room. Players and fans respected him. Moyes? No comments...

A very good example is Barcelona. Look at them, their legendary manager left the club when they were at their prime. A new manager took over with, well, the same group of players. Look where they are now. They are still top of La Liga and they are playing attractive football.
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Moyes did not enherit a champion team. It lack the key champion ingredient. It lack alex ferguson.

Without alex ferguson man utd is just a mid table team for me.

Both managers have different phylosophy. Its like handing over an f1 car to velentino rossi. Fine tuning period is needed.

Nobody is wrong here. Its just a normal football cycle. Judge after 3 seasons.
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later some "true" fans will come and ask u go sapot barca  whistling.gif
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Haha... I am comparing the difference (or should I say similarities) between the two clubs. Both changed managers and both inherited the same group of players.

By the way, ayam always a United fan. thumbup.gif
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QUOTE(aressandro10 @ Dec 8 2013, 11:47 AM)
Moyes did not enherit a champion team. It lack the key champion ingredient. It lack alex ferguson.

Without alex ferguson man utd is just a mid table team for me.

Both managers have different phylosophy. Its like handing over an f1 car to velentino rossi. Fine tuning period is needed.

Nobody is wrong here. Its just a normal football cycle. Judge after 3 seasons.
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Rossi don't even know how to drive an F1 car la... For sure will bang everywhere one. laugh.gif
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Maybe all this losing is part of david gill and sir alex's plan to force the glazers to sell the club?? While they realise the club is going nowhere with the glazers milking the clubs finances.. maybe they do it to save the club??
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Lol! Well glazers would have sold this club long time ago if not for SAF doin wonders and overacheiving for them.
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He actually had a few trial run with ferrari. ..just not enough to pursue it .

The same way some former f1 drivers struggles with stock car races. Different phylosophy.

To tune in his phylosophy needs time. ....normally 3 years max.
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QUOTE(JustcallmeLarry @ Dec 8 2013, 04:01 AM)
I heard this is all planed by sir Alex???? Moyes will always be a manager a club look for to survive in EPL, he is definitely not a winner. This was Sir Alex plan bcs you can see after all this time every people are still talking about him Sir Alex. If man utd took Mourinho as manager I'm sure Sir Alex would be forgotten by now???
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This theory just like why mahathir support paklah to become next pm not najib
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Still delusional. And glory hunter. lost a few games and bash people like no tmorrow. Different manager, different ideology and tactical approach. How to be a fan if expecting the chosen one to be like Fergie? Omg.
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QUOTE(franco87 @ Dec 8 2013, 12:56 PM)
Still delusional. And glory hunter. lost a few games and bash people like no tmorrow. Different manager, different ideology and tactical approach. How to be a fan if expecting the chosen one to be like Fergie? Omg.
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Sounds like you are happy that your team lost. icon_idea.gif
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'hey we just changed manager, you guys are no longer good footballers okay? lets try to stay in the midtable. give me 3 seasons, and by the time vidic, rio, carrick, rvp, evra retires, i'll show you some results okay?'

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U guys actually have a creative midfielder by the name of pogba. Of cuz he is gone now. U can thank fergie for that.
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Pogba? Talented as he may be, that attitude problem is not getting him anywhere.

We don't go head over heels for one particular player who thinks he deserved to be promoted straight into the first team because he thinks that he is too good for the reserves? Every players will start from the bottom and it is up to the manager to decide if you are ready for the first time. Take Januzaj for example, came through the ranks and slowly worked his way up. It's the attitude of the player. No one is bigger than Manchester United. No one.
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glory hunter tetap glory hunter
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QUOTE(jetpacker @ Dec 8 2013, 11:43 AM)
a championship winning team go down to the drain just like that, everyone played like they are out of ideas and clueless..even nice lad like chicha was so frustrated till need to dive to get a penalty..oh gosh, even the subs were so lightweight and bring no difference to the team..regardless of welbeck playing or not

just a matter of time b4 the old trafford crowd go against moyes..

choosing moyes as successor could be the worst decision of SAF since selling jaap stam
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Fans will need to wake up that they don't have the best squad in the league and how wonder was done by SAF to bring them to be a champion. To expect Moyes to straightaway do the same is just ridiculous. It is adaptation both from players and non-playing elements of the clubs after 20+ years managed by a single person only, these are expected from that.

You can see in some point importance of Carrick to United can be bigger than importance of Rooney/RVP to United.

QUOTE(exquisite_markas @ Dec 8 2013, 11:44 AM)
There goes my argument. Almost the same group of players la. If it's not the manager's fault, whose fault?

DM just couldn't find the magic touch that SAF has to bring out the best in his players. The biggest difference is SAF's presence in the changing room. Players and fans respected him. Moyes? No comments...

A very good example is Barcelona. Look at them, their legendary manager left the club when they were at their prime. A new manager took over with, well, the same group of players. Look where they are now. They are still top of La Liga and they are playing attractive football.
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Yes, look at Barcelona, look at them, has Pique, Busquets, Xavi, Iniesta, Fabregas, Neymar, Messi, Sanchez, etc. Basically they have strongest player in most of positions compared to the rest of the clubs in La Liga. You can appoint Rajagopal ffs and they will be still top of the table or second.

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lol compare with barcelona that have 70% of spain players that win world cup and euro cup
just lol
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Then why dont compare Everton against United.
Martinez inherited a mid table team but with shrewd signings and good backroom staff they are flying.
Moyes inherited champions ffs.
I love United but Moyes and his tactics and backroom staff are just ridiculous
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Yes, look at Barcelona, look at them, has Pique, Busquets, Xavi, Iniesta, Fabregas, Neymar, Messi, Sanchez, etc. Basically they have strongest player in most of positions compared to the rest of the clubs in La Liga. You can appoint Rajagopal ffs and they will be still top of the table or second.
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Haiya, then why last season United managed to win the BPL? Somemore with the same players. I am not comparing the players la, I am comparing the managers.

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Haiya, then why last season United managed to win the BPL? Somemore with the same players. I am not comparing the players la, I am comparing the managers.

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Moyes should never have been Utd manager,Sir Alex should blinding prejudice by not choosing either Jurgen Klopp, Pep Guardiola or Jose Mourinho
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These men have won trophies, what has Moyes done but destroy Manchester united!!
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David Moyes has shed light on the varying issues that kept Shinji Kagawa, Marouane Fellaini and Chris Smalling from playing in Saturday's Premier League defeat to Newcastle.

Speaking during his post-match press conference at Old Trafford after the Reds were narrowly beaten 1-0 via Yohan Cabaye's solitary goal, the Reds manager was keen to explain why all three players were omitted after starting against Everton in midweek.

"Shinji was very sick after the [Everton] game and he did a bit of training on Friday but he was low,” Moyes explained. "All of the stats that we look at were low so we felt we had better not take a risk in case we got an injury by playing him."

Revealing more about Kagawa's health, as well as Fellaini and Smalling, the boss continued: "It was a bad sickness. He thinks he ate too much, and he had to get his stomach pumped, but I think he is okay. Felli had a bruised back and Chris Smalling had a tight hamstring, so that is why both of them weren't available."


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Honestly, after yesterday performance, I really think United can win the league next season under Moyes...But they'll face stiff competition from Blackpool, Watford and Leeds.
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Moyes has been criticised for drafting in his own coaches Steve Round, Jimmy Lumsden, Phil Neville and Chris Woods and introducing a more intensive training regime, while  Fergie’s deputies Rene Meulensteen, Mike Phelan and goalkeeping coach Eric Steele have left. But former Everton boss Moyes insists he has not ripped up the formula that had given the club so much success.

‘I don’t think I’ve changed anything. It’s the same players,’ he said. ‘I’ve brought one player in [Marouane Fellaini], and I’d have done that anyway. If I’d changed it, there might be something to be critical of, but we’ve gone along with basically the same players and introduced young Adnan Januzaj into the team, so I don’t think we’ve made any changes.’

Moyes emphatically denied there was any rift with star striker Robin van Persie — ‘absolute nonsense’, he said — but did admit his team need to improve quickly with four of their next five league games away from home.
‘The two games, Wednesday and today, were very similar. If we’d come out on top in both I don’t think people could have said an awful lot about it. But we haven’t and because we’re Manchester United we have to do better.
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Haiya, then why last season United managed to win the BPL? Somemore with the same players. I am not comparing the players la, I am comparing the managers.

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No doubt , the quality between both the managers are different , but the set of players we have aren't the best either.

Most of the time ( for the past few years ) , we don't play very good football. Just average. Take last season for example , how many times have we played like rubbish the first half ( or first 70 minutes sometimes ) , and only played well later on to win . Why ? Cause of the ever so famous 'hairdryer' or just the player's mentality ? Besides that , it's RvP who sort of carried us with his finishing .

What I'm trying to say is, even though many would blame the manager , our player themselves have their fair share to get blamed .

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FERGIE conspiracy , he will not choose the manger that manage to challenge his achievement.
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I think Fergie has such a huge impact in the backroom. If they are trailing, i'm sure SAF will scold them gao gao during break till they are scared enough and have the must win mentality, seen around 80-90th minutes. Now it's just sad because players don't have the winning mentality, and they play horribly.

Apart from the raw talents of Yanu, and burst of Roo, and sort of inconsistent but still brilliant RVP, carrick's hard solid solo work in the centre, the rest are just sad.

We need to be realistic. Love MU? yes. Tegang behind MU? Always. But players playing like shit/managerial system got some problem? YES! needs settling. But what can we do? we're just mere supporters. Overthrowing DM isnt the answer, something else must be happening really.
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I never wanted Moyes and deep down I don't think many did but it was for these reasons exactly. Never mind getting new players because you can have fantastic players but poor coaching would make em look average.

Look around at United now and tell me a single coach there that can coach this team to play barcelona, Bayern munich, Real madrid, Dortmund and the list can really be as long as my arm.

Im looking at the first half against Newcastle and we seems to just want them to have the ball. There was no press from the players, the midfielders and defenders moved further back the closer newcastle got. What David Moyes coached the team to do for this particular AT OLD TRAFFORD is absorb pressure from Newcastle and then counter. Newcastle ? Seriously ? But see that's how small his tactical brain is.

I couldn't give a rats ass about having a new manager all I wanted was a coach. Someone to revolutionise the way Man Utd play football because of how poor it's gotten and we end up with David Moyes. I feel as though it was a biased vote from Fergie to be honest because there was much better talent out there and younger. If he's gonna be like Fergie and need a big number 2 to take on the bigger teams in europe then I'd rather not have him at all.

Nothing about David Moyes' brand of football attracted me to him for man utd manager and he didn't even manage to win a cup. So you have to ask yourself what qualities aside from longevity is he bringing to the table ? Please ask yourself that.
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I never wanted Moyes and deep down I don't think many did but it was for these reasons exactly. Never mind getting new players because you can have fantastic players but poor coaching would make em look average.

Look around at United now and tell me a single coach there that can coach this team to play barcelona, Bayern munich, Real madrid, Dortmund and the list can really be as long as my arm.

Im looking at the first half against Newcastle and we seems to just want them to have the ball. There was no press from the players, the midfielders and defenders moved further back the closer newcastle got. What David Moyes coached the team to do for this particular AT OLD TRAFFORD is absorb pressure from Newcastle and then counter. Newcastle ? Seriously ? But see that's how small his tactical brain is.

I couldn't give a rats ass about having a new manager all I wanted was a coach. Someone to revolutionise the way Man Utd play football because of how poor it's gotten and we end up with David Moyes. I feel as though it was a biased vote from Fergie to be honest because there was much better talent out there and younger. If he's gonna be like Fergie and need a big number 2 to take on the bigger teams in europe then I'd rather not have him at all.

Nothing about David Moyes' brand of football attracted me to him for man utd manager and he didn't even manage to win a cup. So you have to ask yourself what qualities aside from longevity is he bringing to the table ? Please ask yourself that.
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QUOTE(stupid_cupid23 @ Dec 8 2013, 06:08 PM)
I never wanted Moyes and deep down I don't think many did but it was for these reasons exactly. Never mind getting new players because you can have fantastic players but poor coaching would make em look average.

Look around at United now and tell me a single coach there that can coach this team to play barcelona, Bayern munich, Real madrid, Dortmund and the list can really be as long as my arm.

Im looking at the first half against Newcastle and we seems to just want them to have the ball. There was no press from the players, the midfielders and defenders moved further back the closer newcastle got. What David Moyes coached the team to do for this particular AT OLD TRAFFORD is absorb pressure from Newcastle and then counter. Newcastle ? Seriously ? But see that's how small his tactical brain is.

I couldn't give a rats ass about having a new manager all I wanted was a coach. Someone to revolutionise the way Man Utd play football because of how poor it's gotten and we end up with David Moyes. I feel as though it was a biased vote from Fergie to be honest because there was much better talent out there and younger. If he's gonna be like Fergie and need a big number 2 to take on the bigger teams in europe then I'd rather not have him at all.

Nothing about David Moyes' brand of football attracted me to him for man utd manager and he didn't even manage to win a cup. So you have to ask yourself what qualities aside from longevity is he bringing to the table ? Please ask yourself that.
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I do agree and I understand what you're getting at. I know I know, glory hunter tegang DM bla bla bla. being realistic. There is something wrong. delusional to say we are on the right track (*cough* Moyes). But hey! we're still here and sticking. If want glory, then maybe go for Barca, they are doing well 95% of the time.

Unless some super genius is freed up during Jan window, I think it's unwise to dip into our funds to buy players. Last thing we need are expensive bench warmers which do nothing. When is the transfer window starting again? Its been rather quiet, no rumours of transfers so far.
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Not really surprise, it is what I have expected, we are goona be shyte at least 2 3 seasons. Dont care about Moyes inherit a champ team, it dont work that way, to me the champ team only works if SAF in the team, for now he is totally out of the equation. Under Moyes, is different team to me eventhough technically the same player, and Moyes is still building HIS team
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later moyes fanboy call u lalang, glory hunter n ask u to support othet club...
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QUOTE(onelove89 @ Dec 8 2013, 06:52 PM)
he save money you know! good quality! Glazer likey. tongue.gif and his first spending is a fluke xD afro not that efficient. may need a new haircut. MOHAWK!!

I do agree and I understand what you're getting at. I know I know, glory hunter tegang DM bla bla bla. being realistic. There is something wrong. delusional to say we are on the right track (*cough* Moyes). But hey! we're still here and sticking. If want glory, then maybe go for Barca, they are doing well 95% of the time.

Unless some super genius is freed up during Jan window, I think it's unwise to dip into our funds to buy players. Last thing we need are expensive bench warmers which do nothing. When is the transfer window starting again? Its been rather quiet, no rumours of transfers so far.
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You have said a lot of things word for word I was about to type, literally. Evidence to prove this is Everton's glorious new form post Moyes. Moyes plain and simple is a SUB-PAR coach and I completely agree that in Sir Alex's glorious reign his final act was his greatest blunder. Honestly, how did he choose Moyes? What abilities or accomplishments does he have about him that qualified him for a job of this stature? He kept Everton "afloat" for his entire 11 year stint? Hip hip hooray, and I do believe he will do well enough to avoid relegation this year too, maybe even a top half finish, MAYBE, but that is nothing of the sort that Man U need or deserve with their talent.

Sure the players haven't been producing but I think people fail to realize just how HUGE the managers influence over the team is. This situation is entirely his fault. Poor tactics, failure to utilize his imperially gifted squad, failure to find a formation to do so, lack of character(after every result he has a giddy little attitude about him, I have yet to feel any true sense of responsibility, strength, or even urgency from him in any of his interviews), etc..

From the personality I sense from him and his complete lack of credentials I have zero respect or faith in his ability as a coach, how could players who have seen it all at an elite level possibly feel those things for this man?? Again I completely agree with you that he is in WAY over his head and has found himself hopelessly lacking.

MOYES OUT just about anyone could do better with such a talented squad. Marcelo Bielsa is looking for work.
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Mu fans rami glory hunter
only said GGMU yet cant remember who is MU 1st XI
now rami #GGMU girl support arsenal plak
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Damn evra. Attack damn good, but keep making error when defending. Seriously need to make few super signings in january.

Why nobody says #mourinhoout?

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Just give him 8 season like AW and perhaps you guys can see the results  laugh.gif
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Yup. That sub-par manager while at Everton managed to land City their very first BPL title for the first time in years while being 2 goals behind at 1-3, managed to snatched a point with a 4-4 draw at Old Trafford leading to the title being swung over to City's favor. That sub-par manager indeed. That sub-par manager that guided Everton to finish above Liverpool last season with a pretty 'cheap' squad. Sub-par indeed.

We need a world class manager. Marcello Lippi? Scolari? Guardiola? Mourinho? Brenden Rodgers (owai) ? Or maybe ask SAF to comeback from retirement instead and kick Moyes's a$$ aside for sacking his entire first team coaches.

#MoyesOut
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QUOTE(stupid_cupid23 @ Dec 8 2013, 04:29 PM)
Moyes should never have been Utd manager,Sir Alex should blinding prejudice by not choosing either Jurgen Klopp, Pep Guardiola or Jose Mourinho
or even Roberto Martinez.

These men have won trophies, what has Moyes done but destroy Manchester united!!
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All i want is jurgen klopp... if moyes were to get sack.. although how much I want him to succeed.. this is a business, not qualifying for the champs league will hurt the clubs revenue.. and the board will do what is necessary.. ah well... I already feel so numb after so many draws and these 2 home loses... hope everything gets better..
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From a true fan words.

I have seen it all as a United fan. I was supporting them before Sir Alex was even known about, Docherty was Manager when I started liking United. I was only 6 granted, but I have supported them as well as my other beloved team Wigan Warriors (Rugby League) for 37yrs now. I have endured Liverpools dominance and sat patiently waiting for us to knock them off their perch. I have endured trophyless seasons, I have seen us win almost everything there is 2 win. And I will say this....IF in 3 years we were to be battling in the murky depths of League 2. I will STILL be here, bantering, supporting and cheering my team. Because that's what fans do. I am not going to walk away because we hit rough times. I shall remain ever faithful to the team that has given me so much joy over the years. Because if I have learned anything from all those years as a United fan, it is.......NEVER.......EVER write off United, because they can, and will bounce back. And I'll be here waiting when they do. For those who want to walk away from them........Walk, this club is built on loyalty, we don't need you. How much effort did those boys post 1958 put in, to raise this club back from the ashes ?? blood sweat and tears were spilled for many a year, rebuilding when all was lost. We want loyal fans, not ones who simply want to support a "successful club". We have the best fans in the world, we respect our rivals, and we apprieciate good players, even if they play for a rival team. Let's stick together now, and show other fans WHY we are the best in the world, DO NOT give them reason to think otherwise. Let's get behind the team, and be the 12th man. Whether you are a Moyes fan or not, you never turn your back on the team. Those Busby Babes who survived, who helped rebuild this club faced bigger more difficult situations, they did it........because they were LOYAL and stuck together and never gave up hope..........United Till I Die.

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As much as I want to David Moyes to succeed and carry on Manchester United's winning legacy, he just keeps disappointing the fans continually with bad substitutions, wrong lineups and overly cautious tactics. This is not United's way of playing, the comebacks that has been synonymous for us throughout the years is missing, most of the players have not shown enough passion and grit, Fellaini has been a bad signing, our transfer window dealings have been laughable, other players who are more capable have not been chosen enough, and the list goes on. Like Murphy's Law, anything that could go wrong, has gone wrong
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moyes failed to motivate d players...thats it
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QUOTE(fas29 @ Dec 8 2013, 09:48 PM)
From a true fan words.

I have seen it all as a United fan. I was supporting them before Sir Alex was even known about, Docherty was Manager when I started liking United. I was only 6 granted, but I have supported them as well as my other beloved team Wigan Warriors (Rugby League) for 37yrs now. I have endured Liverpools dominance and sat patiently waiting for us to knock them off their perch. I have endured trophyless seasons, I have seen us win almost everything there is 2 win. And I will say this....IF in 3 years we were to be battling in the murky depths of League 2. I will STILL be here, bantering, supporting and cheering my team. Because that's what fans do. I am not going to walk away because we hit rough times. I shall remain ever faithful to the team that has given me so much joy over the years. Because if I have learned anything from all those years as a United fan, it is.......NEVER.......EVER write off United, because they can, and will bounce back. And I'll be here waiting when they do. For those who want to walk away from them........Walk, this club is built on loyalty, we don't need you. How much effort did those boys post 1958 put in, to raise this club back from the ashes ?? blood sweat and tears were spilled for many a year, rebuilding when all was lost. We want loyal fans, not ones who simply want to support a "successful club". We have the best fans in the world, we respect our rivals, and we apprieciate good players, even if they play for a rival team. Let's stick together now, and show other fans WHY we are the best in the world, DO NOT give them reason to think otherwise. Let's get behind the team, and be the 12th man. Whether you are a Moyes fan or not, you never turn your back on the team. Those Busby Babes who survived, who helped rebuild this club faced bigger more difficult situations, they did it........because they were LOYAL and stuck together and never gave up hope..........United Till I Die.

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Did u guys realise that DM had change all the midfielder and striker by recent 2 matches?

I don't know the reason but i do think rotation is overdo already

And clearly our midfield not living up to standard, Jan transfer still need to strengthen this area.

I still support Moyes nonetheless smile.gif
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I support MU. And i despise Moyes cz he is making my favourite club a laughing stock.
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QUOTE(yhtan @ Dec 8 2013, 10:33 PM)
Did u guys realise that DM had change all the midfielder and striker by recent 2 matches?

I don't know the reason but i do think rotation is overdo already

And clearly our midfield not living up to standard, Jan transfer still need to strengthen this area.

I still support Moyes nonetheless smile.gif
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Yes. The rotation will affect the chemistry between the players. As I've mentioned before, the players chemistry are build by playing games together. I believe he is still experimenting the midfield for now since Carrick is absent. So far there is no best pairing yet.
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Midfield is the chronic problem here. Can't imagine such a big club is relying on a rookie winger so much. To be honest, janu is no ronaldo and giggs. If kagawa is injured like yesterday, the midfield is utterly not working. So, in January pls ship cleverly and Anderson out. Buy some top notch players like Isco and even Lallana, there is a chance man utd can finish in top 4.
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Manchester United vs Swansea City, FA Cup Third Round.

Another interesting draw, Arsenal vs Tottenham Hotspurs.

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We might sign a DM as well now hmm. An experienced CB as well. But dont think we will sign so many in january.

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Agree that Moyes overdo the rotating. No chemistry between the players..

ad zaha was very good in preseason, hope he feature more on the wings.


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still experimenting with the team that win league title last season??? lmao moyes really worst than k ragagopal in term of experiment... laugh.gif
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to be fair, the blame not entirely on Moyes. Ferguson is genius. He win the league with average player except vidic, v.persie, & rooney (for me Rooney is overrated striker. Rooney best position is no 10 role or attacking midfielder. Like ferguson like to play him last season).
The key here is patience. Rebuilding a team not take only 2-5 month. Its make take years. Patience is the key or its not, its will destabilize the team & make them more worse.


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K.H.A.I, can you name MU 1st XI under MOyes? I believe true fan like you sure can name 1st XI with no problem.  sweat.gif
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to be fair, the blame not entirely on Moyes. Ferguson is genius. He win the league with average player except vidic, v.persie, & rooney (for me Rooney is overrated striker. Rooney best position is no 10 role or attacking midfielder. Like ferguson like to play him last season).
The key here is patience. Rebuilding a team not take only 2-5 month. Its make take years. Patience is the key or its not, its will destabilize the team & make them more worse.
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anyone realised that everton post moyes are soo much exciting side
pressing hard and fast tempo
however,MU fans need to realised that DM is defensive minded coach,see everton defence?its solid even with 36 years old distin

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QUOTE(K.H.A.I @ Dec 9 2013, 01:59 AM)
anyone realised that everton post moyes are soo much exciting side
pressing hard and fast tempo
however,MU fans need to realised that DM is defensive minded coach,see everton defence?its solid even with 36 years old distin
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Martinez is a very good manager he won FA cup with wigan smile.gif
Now with a better quality players he can be a bit more adventurous and proof is on the pitch.

DM always have taken a more cautious approach to a match. Thats what hes good at. Problem is at United people expect attacking football which is why i think DM is struggling a bit at the moment.

Carra and Gary Neville touched on this


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United till i die.....with or without Moyes...

FA Cup against Swan eh....lets do it...come on lads..

When is the game actually?
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QUOTE(yhtan @ Dec 8 2013, 10:33 PM)
Did u guys realise that DM had change all the midfielder and striker by recent 2 matches?

I don't know the reason but i do think rotation is overdo already

And clearly our midfield not living up to standard, Jan transfer still need to strengthen this area.

I still support Moyes nonetheless smile.gif
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it's not rotation i believe, it's more of he is findin a quick fix to d situation, but doesn't help by Carrick's injury. can see how desperate he is by puttin up an attackin line up but to fail miserably. it's time for him to man up some responsibilities & clear out whoever need to be cleared comes Jan. If he lost d dressin room it's just d matter of time b4 he's headin to d exit door. sweat.gif

QUOTE(Mikken @ Dec 8 2013, 10:42 PM)
Midfield is the chronic problem here. Can't imagine such a big club is relying on a rookie winger so much. To be honest, janu is no ronaldo and giggs. If kagawa is injured like yesterday, the midfield is utterly not working.  So, in January pls ship cleverly and Anderson out. Buy some top notch players like Isco and even Lallana, there is a chance man utd can finish in top 4.
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i believe our major problem is d pullin power, thou we mite not be able to compete head to head with d spanish giants/BM/City/Chelsea etc. given d shitstrom we are havin (9th in d league is disastrous for Utd), do u think world class players would like to join us? icon_question.gif

QUOTE(shamsul_LP @ Dec 9 2013, 01:31 AM)
to be fair, the blame not entirely on Moyes. Ferguson is genius. He win the league with average player except vidic, v.persie, & rooney (for me Rooney is overrated striker. Rooney best position is no 10 role or attacking midfielder. Like ferguson like to play him last season).
The key here is patience. Rebuilding a team not take only 2-5 month. Its make take years. Patience is the key or its not, its will destabilize the team & make them more worse.
if we qualify for CL comes end of season Moyes might buy himself sometimes, however if he failed to do so he's gonna get lot more pressure from d fans. a league winning team doesn't go mid table over a season, especially with almost same group of players at d gaffer's disposal. unsure.gif
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QUOTE(ah_khoo @ Dec 9 2013, 09:41 AM)
it's not rotation i believe, it's more of he is findin a quick fix to d situation, but doesn't help by Carrick's injury. can see how desperate he is by puttin up an attackin line up but to fail miserably. it's time for him to man up some responsibilities & clear out whoever need to be cleared comes Jan. If he lost d dressin room it's just d matter of time b4 he's headin to d exit door.  sweat.gif 
i believe our major problem is d pullin power, thou we mite not be able to compete head to head with d spanish giants/BM/City/Chelsea etc. given d shitstrom we are havin (9th in d league is disastrous for Utd), do u think world class players would like to join us?  icon_question.gif
if we qualify for CL comes end of season Moyes might buy himself sometimes, however if he failed to do so he's gonna get lot more pressure from d fans. a league winning team doesn't go mid table over a season, especially with almost same group of players at d gaffer's disposal.  unsure.gif
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If we dont qualify you can expect a lot of transfer requests as United players deserve playing in CL and class players wont even bother looking at United then
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As a rival fan, I rarely drop by here n post comments but to those who commented that moyes ought to be given time because Brendan has manage to restore liverpool to title contenders it in 2 seasons has no freaking clue what's going on

First and foremost, he inherited an epl winning team but yet fail to reproduce the same results; it shows that the quality of the players is there but moyes doesn't know how to bring the best out of his players like saf did.

Secondly, to use Brendan Rodgers example as a justification to give managers more time to run the club is laughable. Brendan Rodger's liverpool is still a work in progress. If I'm honest, liv is sitting where they r now because of individual brilliances, n not because of BR's tactical nous nor his ability to change a game. There's no guarantee that all managers will become saf in three years, mind you. BR has not convinced liv fans yet that he is the man for the job, although we still back him through n through for the sake of the club.

You don't need 3 years to see if one is a good manager or not. Moyes is clearly out of his depth to manage Man U now. Wake up now n smell the coffee. Stop alienating the fans who criticized him because they are the real real genuine Man U fans who wants the best for this club.

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But it is not DM alone, it is DM and the everton gang he brought over to MU to replace SAF's good coaches and trainers.
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QUOTE(nestlebliss @ Dec 9 2013, 08:32 AM)
Martinez is a very good manager he won FA cup with wigan  smile.gif
Now with a better quality players he can be a bit more adventurous and proof is on the pitch.

DM always have taken a more cautious approach to a match. Thats what hes good at. Problem is at United people expect attacking football which is why i think DM is struggling a bit at the moment.

Carra and Gary Neville touched on this

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true. moyes cautious style are a bit different from united tradition but we arent playing like everton under moyes completely. looking at how the situation now it look like moyes are still learning and adapting wt united style. i hv to say he's is struggling wt it. moyes rarely change his lineup too wt everton but he did it wt united as thts how things hv been going here for the past few season.

another thing point out by neville also clear indication why things hv been bad for united how united style of playing wt wingman/crosess style. so far all our wingman hv been poor and inconsistent. valencia who is always fav to start at side crossing conversion hv been absolute disaster. young been bad, nani still finding his feet.. then at central mid missing carrick is a huge blow.





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QUOTE(onepack @ Dec 9 2013, 11:55 AM)
true. moyes cautious style are a bit different from united tradition but we arent playing like everton under moyes completely. looking at how the situation now it look like moyes are still learning and adapting wt united style. i hv to say he's is struggling wt it. moyes rarely change his lineup too wt everton but he did it wt united as thts how things hv been going here for the past few season.

another thing point out by neville also clear indication why things hv been bad for united how united style of playing wt wingman/crosess style. so far all our wingman hv been poor and inconsistent. valencia who is always fav to start at side crossing conversion hv been absolute disaster. young been bad, nani still finding his feet.. then at central mid missing carrick is a huge blow.
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My take is that DM is still not sure what to do with the team , hes stuck between his preferred method and united's way.

IMO valencia was never a good crosser. his style of crossing (low and hard) is too predictable, his movement is predictable as well , no left feet too. Hes a good squad player not a starter.

Young can cross the ball , but other than that hes an average player, was never a United quality, and with his recent diving antics , DM should move him out asap.

Nani is an enigma. When ronaldo left he seemed to grow into his own but consistency is his issue. Not exactly a secret here. He should start in hope that he will get some form. He needs games.


In January if United want to at least secure a CL spot , i think we need a VERY GOOD winger and a WORLD CLASS midfielder. Failing to do so i predict United will only be in top 7.

What worries me is that we will get stuck in the liverpool trap, and its going to be hard to claw our way back up.

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Just to point a fun fact between Martinez and Moyes.

Wigan relegated after 5 years of management under Martinez.

Everton still in PL after 10 years with DM at helm.

Not saying Martinez is bad here, he's talented. But just to point out DM wasn't bad as well. I believe it indirectly shows the difference in the teams they build. Everton solid and steadily improves while Wigan is eccentric.
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23-year-old Jimmy Macharia who is believed to be a Manchester United fan jumped from the seventh floor of a building last night in Nairobi, Kenya after hearing that his team was beaten by Newcastle in the English Premiership. According to Nairobi County Police Chief Benson Kibue, 23-year-old Manchester United fan Jimmy Macharia jumped from the seventh floor of a building last night after hearing that his team was beaten by Newcastle at Old Trafford for the first time in 41 years. Macharia had earlier told his friends that he could not stand seeing his team being beaten twice in a row before he leapt to his death.
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23-year-old Jimmy Macharia who is believed to be a Manchester United fan jumped from the seventh floor of a building last night in Nairobi, Kenya after hearing that his team was beaten by Newcastle in the English Premiership. According to Nairobi County Police Chief Benson Kibue, 23-year-old Manchester United fan Jimmy Macharia jumped from the seventh floor of a building last night after hearing that his team was beaten by Newcastle at Old Trafford for the first time in 41 years. Macharia had earlier told his friends that he could not stand seeing his team being beaten twice in a row before he leapt to his death.
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seriously i still cant believe we lose back to back at home. bye2 2nd place perhaps 3rd too. no doubt its a bad result. judging from match against newcastle confidence are very low and pressure are high. missing rooney perhaps contribute more to lack of confidence and determination to win as rooney has been the one performing and lift united performance this season.

another thing is concentration.. some of the goals united concede is coz of lack of concentration. evra few times already maybe time to drop him and let buttner challenge him for tht spot. cleverley cant partner jones if we want to win. jones hv been good at mid but is a defence player he provide no creativity. he need to be partner wt someone who can provide tht. cleverley are good at moving the ball around but he got no creativity. giggs look much better partner beside jones. i really hope we bring someone in january. oh its time to let ando and young go if we arent playing them

calling for moyes head arent the solution for now. changing a manager mid way of the season never look the best things to do. its been painful but let continue give support to the team and pray as i think they need it most now. #GGMU
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is this a hardcore fan or did he lost his bet?  tongue.gif
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United need the 4th spot desperately or else no one wants to come to the club. And mind you about the enormous debt. Not playing in ucl will have a huge significant to the club future. We might seen our club playing in the championship sweat.gif
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today i read an article by Ron atkinson the former manager of MU..he said there shouldnt be any 'transitional period' cos United are a big team.Just look at Real Madrid and Barcelona..they have been changing manager but the team have always been competing at top.says it all whether Moyes should be sack or not
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We must get into CL, otherwise very hard to attract big players when transfer windows comes.

very tough to be hoping for title this year. 15 matches, we dont really have an identity still...
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There are a lot of excuse you can say why Man Utd is playing so poor right now.

After games by games defeat and the way DM response to media... Sadly, I have to say he lacks the leadership or influence quality. Yes, he needs time to stamp his authority in the club. But he also need to win games to get respect from everyone in the club.

Unlike JM or Guardiola, he did not has the past result to back him up. JM and Guardiola can influence the club as past winners. DM don't have those to back him up.

Replacing the existing coaches is good idea, it helped DM to establish authority... but not respect. If the new coaches fail to motivate players to play like last season, then the team spirit is breaking. This is the big different between this season and last season, even you have the same players. Last season, everyone believed Ferguson. They fight for him, they are motivated and train hard. This season, it is entirely new manager with no winning record, coaches from Everton... Even you have the same players, you probably unable to bring the best out of them.

The question is, how long does DM need to bring the team back to best? The key is probably he needs to win games. To do that, the only option is to buy the best players during transfer windows. Players that can help him win games. Keeping Rooney is a big plus. Rooney is a driven player even in worst situation. He is the only player that has keep DM job safe. In coming Jan transfer windows, DM need to bring in another self-determine driven MF world class player.

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We all know DM has a lot to improve. That's why he needs time. I dont think to give him the sacking now is good. I dont think any manager can guarantee us all the winning, as the current squad itself needs a lot of reinforcements. And any new manager takes time to gel the squad together as well(Whoever u wanna name, jurgenn klopp?). Even the king mourinho with a great squad is not having the dream start as all would have thought.

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sacking moyes and all the backroom staff is the best option because any new manager can bring instant success to the club and we will go on a 20 game winning streak or something

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23-year-old Jimmy Macharia who is believed to be a Manchester United fan jumped from the seventh floor of a building last night in Nairobi, Kenya after hearing that his team was beaten by Newcastle in the English Premiership. According to Nairobi County Police Chief Benson Kibue, 23-year-old Manchester United fan Jimmy Macharia jumped from the seventh floor of a building last night after hearing that his team was beaten by Newcastle at Old Trafford for the first time in 41 years. Macharia had earlier told his friends that he could not stand seeing his team being beaten twice in a row before he leapt to his death.
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Does that means this will happen too?

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In 1988, Liverpool won the title by nine points, as did United in 2011.

A year later both clubs relinquished their crown in agonizing fashion, seeing the title snatched away with dramatic goals just seconds from the end of the final game of the season (Arsenal 1989, Manchester City 2012).

Then, 12 months on, both clubs regained the title by a clear margin, only to subsequently see their successful and extremely popular Scottish (Kenny Dalglish , SAF) managers resign.

In 1991, Liverpool replaced Kenny Dalglish with another Scot, Graeme Souness, and the rot set in. The Reds have never truly recovered.

Now, 22 years later David Moyes is the Scot selected to replace a club legend.

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today i read an article by Ron atkinson the former manager of MU..he said there shouldnt be any 'transitional period' cos United are a big team.Just look at Real Madrid and Barcelona..they have been changing manager but the team have always been competing at top.says it all whether Moyes should be sack or not
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To be fair, Moyes did won us something already. The community shield.
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I believe David Moyes is not very clear about the team.
When it comes to injury problem and player handing transfer, he just touch and go.
IN MOYES WE TRUST??
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I believe David Moyes is not very clear about the team.
When it comes to injury problem and player handing transfer, he just touch and go.
IN MOYES WE TRUST??
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But i dont think he is very suitable to be the team manager.. somehow he just lack of leadership spirit.. and players dont respect him after 26years of SAF's reign
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United like to attack from side but clearly this season our crosses hv been dissapointing.. here an article/preview before games against cardiff. as stated on the article united average 27 cross per game but hv have the worst accuracy rate at 16%.

http://www.fourfourtwo.com/features/previe...f-vs-man-united

i did some research.. here the stat from cardiff game and ahead of successful cross

1. cardiff 0/20 (0%) sweat.gif

2. spurs 2/27 (7.4%)

3. everton 5/36 (13.9%)

4. newcastle 5/26 (19.2%)

most of the crosses hv been coming from valencia or evra.
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Moyes’ talk of transition also lacks support when contrasted with the club he left, Everton. Roberto Martinez also had to take the reins of a club that had known only one manager for over a decade, yet he has turned the Toffees into one of the most attractive teams in the league. They are currently six points ahead of United, having lost—rather than bought—a £27.5 million talent.

The perfect solution to end this has been right in front of us but no one managed to notice it !!

SACK MOYES AND HIRE THE ONE AND ONLY ERIC "THE KING" CANTONA AS MANAGER!

Now tell me this isnt a genius move? No one can motivate the guy more than the king himself!
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Moyes’ talk of transition also lacks support when contrasted with the club he left, Everton. Roberto Martinez also had to take the reins of a club that had known only one manager for over a decade, yet he has turned the Toffees into one of the most attractive teams in the league. They are currently six points ahead of United, having lost—rather than bought—a £27.5 million talent.

The perfect solution to end this has been right in front of us but no one managed to notice it !!

SACK MOYES AND HIRE THE ONE AND ONLY ERIC "THE KING" CANTONA AS MANAGER!

Now tell me this isnt a genius move? No one can motivate the guy more than the king himself!
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changin manager half way thru d season is suicidal imo... certainly u need someone with vast experience & strong portfolio & they usually wont be available this kinda period. i'd say let Moyes run d team until season end, should we finished top 4 then he deserves more time, should we finished elsewhere then he gotta go. he still got 0.5 season to change things around (plus a short transfer window) & win over d fans. one thing for sure it wont be an easy shopping session as all sellin clubs know how bad we need good CM/wingers & d club will be held ransom when it comes to transfer fee. fingers crossed till then.  sweat.gif
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tongue.gif It may be worth a shot to do so. Take Chelsea under AVB for example, by sacking a manager half way thru d season, his replacement won the Champions League and FA Cup with virtually the same set of players. The only difference is that the Chelsea players is more willing to get the win under RDM rather than AVB.

Same may be said bout MU, comments from Ferdinand and RVP criticising Moyes player selection and training method has indicate a clear indication that they no longer want to play any more part under Moyes. So lets stop the rot before MU starts competing for the champion with the likes of Watford, Blackpool or Wolverhampton next season.

In fact, they should sack Moyes and hire Giggs as player/manager?
What do you guys think?
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tongue.gif It may be worth a shot to do so. Take Chelsea under AVB for example, by sacking a manager half way thru d season, his replacement won the Champions League and FA Cup with virtually the same set of players. The only difference is that the Chelsea players is more willing to get the win under RDM rather than AVB.

Same may be said bout MU, comments from Ferdinand and RVP criticising Moyes player selection and training method has indicate a clear indication that they no longer want to play any more part under Moyes. So lets stop the rot before MU starts competing for the champion with the likes of Watford, Blackpool or Wolverhampton next season.

In fact, they should sack Moyes and hire Giggs as player/manager?
What do you guys think?

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I don't think it wise to do so. Just get back to someone familiar with the club like Mike Phelan. I believe he didn't need such a long transition period.
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Transfer, its not just him who decides. There are people who deals with the transfer. Ed woodward is one of them.
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Moyes’ talk of transition also lacks support when contrasted with the club he left, Everton. Roberto Martinez also had to take the reins of a club that had known only one manager for over a decade, yet he has turned the Toffees into one of the most attractive teams in the league. They are currently six points ahead of United, having lost—rather than bought—a £27.5 million talent.

The perfect solution to end this has been right in front of us but no one managed to notice it !!

SACK MOYES AND HIRE THE ONE AND ONLY ERIC "THE KING" CANTONA AS MANAGER!

Now tell me this isnt a genius move? No one can motivate the guy more than the king himself!
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later Cantona instructs players to kungfu kick opponents if they are a nuisance.

Catona have charisma but does he have experience in managing top flight team?

or we can get Mark Hughes. tongue.gif

or Giggs should retire now n become mgr. tongue.gif
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QUOTE(roytomas8998 @ Dec 9 2013, 08:21 PM)
later Cantona instructs players to kungfu kick opponents if they are a nuisance.

Catona have charisma but does he have experience in managing top flight team?

or we can get Mark Hughes.  tongue.gif

or Giggs should retire now n become mgr.  tongue.gif
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how about bryan robson? or steve bruce...
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QUOTE(roytomas8998 @ Dec 9 2013, 08:21 PM)
later Cantona instructs players to kungfu kick opponents if they are a nuisance.

Catona have charisma but does he have experience in managing top flight team?

or we can get Mark Hughes.  tongue.gif

or Giggs should retire now n become mgr.  tongue.gif
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QUOTE(roytomas8998 @ Dec 9 2013, 08:21 PM)
later Cantona instructs players to kungfu kick opponents if they are a nuisance.

Catona have charisma but does he have experience in managing top flight team?

or we can get Mark Hughes.  tongue.gif

or Giggs should retire now n become mgr.  tongue.gif
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Isn't Cantona the manager of the French Beach Volleyball team? tongue.gif

I always visioned Mark Hughes to take over SAF due to his contributions as a manager of Blackburn Rovers and he is my all-time favorite United player anyway tongue.gif But he seems to lost his touch ever since he joined City, Fulham, then QPR and now Stoke..
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Isn't Cantona the manager of the French Beach Volleyball team?  tongue.gif

I always visioned Mark Hughes to take over SAF due to his contributions as a manager of Blackburn Rovers and he is my all-time favorite United player anyway  tongue.gif But he seems to lost his touch ever since he joined City, Fulham, then QPR and now Stoke..
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I think most of us here are pretty sad / pissed that Utd is not used to being outside the top 4. Utd is my first love. It was love at first sight. We had our fair shares of ups and downs. But no matter what, I still love Utd because she's my first love. I love her no matter what. I will support her when ppl are condemning / hate her.

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Yeah, we can only remember our past.
No more beckham, nevilles, scholes, keane etc except giggs.
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I woke up this morning feeling good and suddenly i dont hate moyes that much anymore.. I can see he is really trying really hard.. I will support him no matter what.. Because he really needs it right now more than anything..i believe he will succeed.. ggmu.. Need to be positive! Looking forward to he next transfer
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Sacking managers on their first season will just delay and transfer the 3 year to another manager. By the time you hit thebjackpot with a manager that succeed on his first season, you will already past the 3 year period already...
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I think 1 of the reasons of man utd slum is bcs of the fans too. I think at the moment maybe 50% saying moyes out & 50% saying gives moyes time. But look at Real Madrid they can change manager every season but no matter what they will definitely be challenging for things, bcs the manager knows he is under pressure from board to fans. Compare to man utd even b4 moyes was officially announce, fergie was telling everyone to give the new manager time. Big club like Man utd maybe ok to not win a trophy for 1 year but to not qualify for champions league will hurt the club brand badly.
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I think 1 of the reasons of man utd slum is bcs of the fans too. I think at the moment maybe 50% saying moyes out & 50% saying gives moyes time. But look at Real Madrid they can change manager every season but no matter what they will definitely be challenging for things, bcs the manager knows he is under pressure from board to fans. Compare to man utd even b4 moyes was officially announce, fergie was telling everyone to give the new manager time. Big club like Man utd maybe ok to not win a trophy for 1 year but to not qualify for champions league will hurt the club brand badly.
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Moyes was given 6 years contract right? if thats true, just give him full support. board will not sack him for the time being.
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Another player snub Man Utd move. wink.gif

He's met Fergie and the players, taken a tour of Old Trafford and posed wearing the shirt... but Brazilian teenager Bruno Gomes is the latest star to snub United move
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I've been a United supporter since day one and no matter what, I will support them... even if they are fighting relegation this year... I do have one thing that I'd like to share with you guys. Don't you think that Moyes's excuse of "this is a transition period" for United was a bit lame...??? I mean... we are a team of champions for god's sake...! I would understand if we are fighting for 3rd-4th place, then we can use this sort of excuse... but as of now... dangling in mid table... my goodness...!!! Look at Everton... they have a new manager as well in Martinez... but they are doing quite well I must say. You have to up the ante my dear Moyes... or the fans patience will soon run out... GGMU...!!!

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Come on, it's still 14 games in EPL, not even 75% of the first half yet, you still don't know where United or your truly babe Everton and Liverpool end up at the of the season.

Judge when the season is over, thats fair judgement. Even under SAF we went thru back to back loss at home, it's not like end of the world.

No, Rio didn't criticise Moyes' team selection, he criticise his method of last minute team announcement, and he can just suck it up because that's normal manager call.

And to those who wants Phelan to take control, just imagine how many years SAF works together with Phelan, after those years SAF still choosing to take gamble by hiring external staff in Moyes rather than internally like Phelan or Rene as his replacement, it shows that they are not good enough.and SAF knew it.
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Whatever it is, I proudly wear my MU jersey to work today. There are people making fun of me. Asking me why I am still wearing this jersey.

But what did i do?
I KISS THE BADGE. thumbup.gif
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Whatever it is, I proudly wear my MU jersey to work today.  There are people making fun of me.  Asking me why I am still wearing this jersey.

But what did i do?
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Whatever it is, I proudly wear my MU jersey to work today.  There are people making fun of me.  Asking me why I am still wearing this jersey.

But what did i do?
I KISS THE BADGE.    thumbup.gif
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that's the spirit we need to show these people...

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that's the spirit we need to show these people...

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how to save united season by robbie savage

http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/

totally agree on buliding a new back line.. around jones or smalling

the quality of passing from midfield is not up to standards - cleverley jones partnership just arent the right way to go

united need a creative midfielder. tht aint something new

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Well like some of you already pointed out, it is an aging team. True lots of young players too, but I guess have to give DM chance and handles the aging players

situation. Have to admit Rio is struggling this season. Vidic not sure but don't play too many games nowadays. United have to have a solid foundation starting from

the back, where Rio and Vida used to be. Heck, even Silvestre and Rio on one season was quite a partnership too. tongue.gif Midfield, no need to say anything more. It

has been the case since like 1760. tongue.gif
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The amount of players rejecting man utd is ridiculous. Man utd claim to be as big as Madrid and Barcelona, when was the last time you heard a player rejecting offer to join real or barca???
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The amount of players rejecting man utd is ridiculous. Man utd claim to be as big as Madrid and Barcelona, when was the last time you heard a player rejecting offer to join real or barca???
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With all the changes..this is understandable. ...might not have happened if SAF still at helm...
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Whatever it is, I proudly wear my MU jersey to work today.  There are people making fun of me.  Asking me why I am still wearing this jersey.

But what did i do?
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The amount of players rejecting man utd is ridiculous. Man utd claim to be as big as Madrid and Barcelona, when was the last time you heard a player rejecting offer to join real or barca???
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United may be one of the most successful teams in recent history, but Champions League is usually a must for the top players.

If United is top 4 at the end of the year, they will have no problems getting new players.

IF.
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The amount of players rejecting man utd is ridiculous. Man utd claim to be as big as Madrid and Barcelona, when was the last time you heard a player rejecting offer to join real or barca???
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I bet they will reconsider if SAF is still at the helm. Most of the players we are going after are either first team regulars/earning big fat paycheck/sponsorship issues which is why it is difficult to lure them away. Take Fabregas for instance, we're never gonna get him. Simple reasons.

1) Barca-DNA players will always return to their mother club.
2) Former Arsenal player and captained the club while at it.
3) There is only 1 Spanish player in Old Trafford. Spanish players loves playing among their own people. Most.

I felt the club was being too ambitious trying to lure Fabregas to the club even with a big fat transfer fee involved. We all know he is always and will be a Barca boy. Why would he leave the 'best' club in the world? rolleyes.gif

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QUOTE(Chicharito Choo @ Dec 10 2013, 11:00 AM)
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that's the spirit we need to show these people...

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Yup, though I'm not happy with the way the team goes, will always support this club.
I criticize the way Moyes run the team is because I care for the club.

Cheers. icon_rolleyes.gif
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United may be one of the most successful teams in recent history, but Champions League is usually a must for the top players.

If United is top 4 at the end of the year, they will have no problems getting new players.

IF.
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now we can see who are plastic fans, been in love with united since 97, MU for life, i make sure my fakkin kids support the club too, we are just not used to seeing "this mess" but we can be super powers all the time, this season humbled us and proved MU is not immortal, but we will fight back and im sure i will still be happy because i am a red devil! GGMU
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Heard on the radio just now, reported that a brazilian player would love to play for MU....can't remember the name
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The Brazillian player
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Yeah! that's what we want....a midfielder

Cruzeiro midfielder and reported Manchester United target Everton Ribeiro says he would thrive in David Moyes' side as he continues to be linked with a move to Old Trafford

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comes with the name of whistling.gif everton...

hehe...
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comes with the name of  whistling.gif  everton...

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hhaahaha yeah i was laughing my ass off and thinking...."Off course moyes will go for it!"
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Give him a break la kawan. I know u guys are having fun at this moment.
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Heard Ribeiro and sneijder is interested or on the scout? hmm... will be interesting.
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Would you guys prefer moyes resting key players and risk of losing another home game so that we have higher chance of winning against aston villa this weekend?
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Would you guys prefer moyes resting key players and risk of losing another home game so that we have higher chance of winning against aston villa this weekend?
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Would you guys prefer moyes resting key players and risk of losing another home game so that we have higher chance of winning against aston villa this weekend?
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What happen to our mighty man utd?? We keep losing possession. No chemistry between player. All pass failed. Crossing out. No winning mentallity. Want to lose at home again ke? unsure.gif
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Actually what are kagawa's strong point. He look kinda lost to me
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1 - 0...win at last rclxms.gif . But overall man utd performance still below par. We are lucky shaktar doesnt goal at first half.
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Finally a goal for Man Utd at Old Trafford since RVP score against Arsenal lol
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Actually what are kagawa's strong point. He look kinda lost to me
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at least better than cleverly..
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3 points still 3 points.although, cl was not something people would expect Moyes to succed, he did good enough for group stages.

Just like gary's article, United need to be brave and take more risks (or urgency) .btw, nice skill by januzaj
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Top of the group. At the start, it looked like a tricky group but I guess we have more luck in CL than EPL at the moment plus one good performance in Leverkusen.

SAF would be happy with these kind of results, especially after slipping off not that long ago. Bilbao anyone? blush.gif sweat.gif
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din noe Shakhtar Donetsk's almost half of the 1st 11 are Brazilian...talented and young!!!
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why when a player snub United the whole world knows.. we never hear anyone snubbing other teams...
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Man Utd current situation is quite similar to Chelsea in season 2011/12. Chelsea finished sixth in the premier league in that year, but managed to win the FA Cup & Champions League after replacing Villas Boas by Di Matteo.
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Taken from twitter, it says something like in all four previous seasons when United went to UCL final, they were undefeated in the group stage. brows.gif


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Man Utd current situation is quite similar to Chelsea in season 2011/12. Chelsea finished sixth in the premier league in that year, but managed to win the FA Cup & Champions League after replacing Villas Boas by Di Matteo.
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Care to elaborate more on which part is similar? Because I don't see anything that is similar IMHO blush.gif
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Care to elaborate more on which part is similar? Because I don't see anything that is similar IMHO  blush.gif
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I believe he's saying that United is in bad situation in EPL, and hinting that we should replace Moyes...
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I believe he's saying that United is in bad situation in EPL, and hinting that we should replace Moyes...
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Ic. Similar huh? In order for United to have similar level of success by the end of this season (same as that season's Chelsea) is to sack DM and replace with the

current assistant manager (similar to Di Matteo's case) which is Steve Round as caretaker manager? blink.gif

Then after successfully winning the UCL Final against BM after scoring a sucker punch goal, Steve Round would get the job permanently? Only to be sacked season

after because United is not being perfect in all the games, despite not playing too badly? blink.gif Then... (to be continued) brows.gif
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No need to replace moyes..the lads just need to improve their attacking tactics..
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No need to replace moyes..the lads just need to improve their attacking tactics..
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Tactics are instructions from Moyes and backroom staff
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Tactics are instructions from Moyes and backroom staff
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...but on the pitch its totally a different story. The players sometimes have to take their own initiative to coordinate their attack.
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We might probably meet Galatasaray, Olympiakos, Basel/Schalke, Dortmund/Napoli, Zenit/Porto, Milan/Ajax in the second round. Hopefully not Dortmund sweat.gif
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why when a player snub United the whole world knows.. we never hear anyone snubbing other teams...
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We might probably meet Galatasaray, Olympiakos, Basel/Schalke, Dortmund/Napoli, Zenit/Porto, Milan/Ajax in the second round. Hopefully not Dortmund sweat.gif
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possible opponents for 2nd round not very daunting. the strongest one in the hat for us is AC Milan.

but we lost to the likes of Everton, Newcastle and WBA @home, so any decent European teams can cause us problem.
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possible opponents for 2nd round not very daunting. the strongest one in the hat for us is AC Milan.

but we lost to the likes of Everton, Newcastle and WBA @home, so any decent European teams can cause us problem.
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Maybe just maybe moyes tactics might work better in europe..
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Bring on AC Milan! lol
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Hope for one of the prodigal sons to return. Maybe then, the setup at United would be more complete. brows.gif
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I think the defense can't really be blamed for the team's current predicament. In past seasons, United would have easily scored two or three goals at home so conceding a single goal wouldn't have mattered. It's the forwards who really need to start performing.

In central midfield, Jones should be starting every game until Carrick gets back. For the next league game, given the lack of options, Anderson should probably be given a chance since he'll be able to focus more on attacking with Jones beside him.

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at least Utd top the CL Group, not bad Moyes.

Class of 92 not even showing in our local cinema, the cinema operators & mgt ABUs ka? :lol

nvm, wait for torrent la. :wink
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at least Utd top the CL Group, not bad Moyes.

Class of 92 not even showing in our local cinema, the cinema operators & mgt ABUs ka? :lol

nvm, wait for torrent la. :wink
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Watched it 2 days ago
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Why wait - its already there
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mana bos? thanks.
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Man Utd winger Ashley Young unapologetic over diving claims

Ashley Young remains unapologetic in the face of accusations of diving and has claimed it is up to referees to deal with him.

The Manchester United winger revealed both Sir Alex Ferguson and his successor David Moyes have had words with him about his frequent tumbles in the penalty area, but he does not seem ready to change his ways.

"It's been talked about by the previous manager and the current manager, but that's in-house," Young said in several newspapers.

"I'm not going to comment on what's been said. I understand what you're saying (about gaining a reputation) and everyone is going to have their say on it, but the referees are giving decisions and that is where I think it lies."

Young was booked for simulation against Crystal Palace this season but then won a controversial penalty later in the same game, while he also appeared to go over easily in the Champions League match away to Real Sociedad.

The 28-year-old incensed fans of his former club last season when he went down against Aston Villa, United's opponents on Sunday.

"I remember getting booked against Palace and then won a penalty," he said.

"Against Sociedad it was another penalty that was given. Referees have got tough decisions to make, they have a tough time out there making decisions, but they have made the right decisions I think.

"I don't take notice of the headlines or the debates. That's obviously for people to have their say on it, and everyone is entitled to have their say on it. For me, the referees have made decisions and that's it."


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Transfer news: Atletico Madrid's Koke paying little attention to Manchester United link

David Moyes was in attendance as Atletico Madrid saw off Porto on Wednesday, but Koke is ignoring rumours suggesting he is the subject of interest from Manchester United.

The Red Devils are known to be in the market for midfield reinforcements, having spent much of the summer looking to bolster their creative ranks.

Koke fits the profile they are after, with the 21-year-old having both age and ability on his side.

He has shone on a regular basis for Atletico since breaking into their first-team ranks and has earned senior international recognition with Spain.

Koke played the full 90 minutes in midweek as Atletico eased their way through their final group stage fixture in the UEFA Champions League.

The youngster is, however, adamant that he is unaware of any imminent approach from England and claims to be happy where he is - having only recently committed himself to a new contract which is due to run until 2018.

Koke told Canal Plus on the United reports: "I didn't know anything (about Moyes watching on), but I'm not concerned (with any of that). I renewed in the summer."

Atletico were happy to accommodate Moyes and he held talks with the club's sporting director Jose Luis Caminero.

He claims that no transfer discussions were held, with little indication offered from the United camp that they were there to cast an eye over potential targets - with in-form frontman Diego Costa also said to be in the thoughts of the Premier League champions.

Caminero said: "I suppose he came to see us because Atletico are a Champions League team and because they also qualified for the last 16.

"We spoke, but he didn't tell me exactly why he had come."


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*facepalm* if he could divert his diving fixation to improving his shooting or dribbling or some other aspect of his game, he might actually be able to play more regularly =_=
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Ashley Young is a disgrace to the club, not only is he more interested in throwing himself to the ground than putting in a good performance; he's now refusing to apologise for it. He's a useless cheat, & the sooner he leaves this magnificent club the better
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Ashley young will definitely be leaving the club. He's paid 120K pounds per week, and not performing keeps getting injured as well. Not many players are paid that much in the team(maybe rio, rooney and rvp only?). And moyes have preferred kagawa/januzaj over young on the left flank. And moyes doesnt like divers...good bye young
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young still can deliver some good crosess.. i think still the best ahead of nani,evra,valencia. he should concentrate on tht instead of dribbling or trickery getting inside the box etc.

but 120k for squad player is too much.. keep him till end of the season as adnan still new and zaha perhap arent ready yet
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For me, the likes of Young and/or Anderson can go if suitable replacement is found already. To play Adnan as the main man would be too much, even if he is that

talented. Zaha looked like he is not ready to play for United yet, at least not in the league. In the domestic cup games, or go on loan to other teams in the EPL

would be beneficial for him. Hoping Powell will come good for United next season.

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young still can deliver some good crosess.. i think still the best ahead of nani,evra,valencia. he should concentrate on tht instead of dribbling or trickery getting inside the box etc.

but 120k for squad player is too much.. keep him till end of the season as adnan still new and zaha perhap arent ready yet
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QUOTE(nshady @ Dec 13 2013, 12:33 PM)
Ashley young will definitely be leaving the club. He's paid 120K pounds per week, and not performing keeps getting injured as well. Not many players  are paid that much in the team(maybe rio, rooney and rvp only?). And moyes have preferred kagawa/januzaj over young on the left flank. And moyes doesnt like divers...good bye young
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if he love football than money, he should leave already. play at mid level team regularly will open an England spot for him. if he is comfortable with where he is right now, i dont think many clubs can afford his salary and push for transfer.

i think Moyes will be looking for another winger next summer and Young will leave for low price. other wingers are in long contract and unlikely to leave next June.
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Why say Zaha not ready? He was one of the stand out performer in pre-season. Not even given chance to play much.
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Why say Zaha not ready? He was one of the stand out performer in pre-season. Not even given chance to play much.
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Cz he slept with Moyes daughter. There is even news of him getting a probable loan out during January.

In another case, if we do sack moyes, I hope Glazers could get Laudrup. Laudrup's age and philosophy would be perfect for United—a man only six months short of 50 years old, and a manager who wants to play attacking and creative football. It seems like a marriage made in football heaven. One facet Laudrup has over David Moyes is his vast knowledge of, and involvement in, "big club" football as a player. This surely gives him an understanding about the psychology of the top players, than others who have not experienced such challenges.
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He had almost half a year to tinker already with the selections. Janu, zaha should be played more. And young should step out. I do agree, I see his attitude as just being:'its ok if we draw' or 'defend and keep possession till the end' type. Not much put into attacks. Past few games that we lost, we had majority of the possessions, yet we lost.

let's see how things will be this weekend vs AVL.
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Why say Zaha not ready? He was one of the stand out performer in pre-season. Not even given chance to play much.
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coz he aint selected.

pre-season game just warm up matches.. and januzaj looks better and ready. even lingard i think had better pre season also being loan out.
zaha is new here.. his time will come
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carrick finally make the list..

even the expert 442 people been underestimate him all this while doh.gif

http://www.fourfourtwo.com/features/fourfo...top-100-players




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Manchester United have kick-started their January recruitment drive by opening talks with Inter Milan over a deal for midfielder Fredy Guarin.

United boss David Moyes has been promised sizable funds to improve his under-fire team in the new year, and work has begun this week on trying to sign players.

The club want to bag at least two midfielders, with a creative type and a box-to-box enforcer topping the list of targets.

Inter ace Guarin fits into the latter category, and reports in Italy claim that United representatives have made contact over a deal.

The 27-year-old is valued at £15million but it’s thought that United hope they can get him for around £10million, with negotiations ongoing.

Guarin, famed for his bullish approach, has previously been linked with Liverpool and Tottenham and is enjoying a solid season for Inter.


http://metro.co.uk/2013/12/12/manchester-u...guarin-4228808/
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RvP will be sidelined for a month.
http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/25369639

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RvP will be sidelined for a month.
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so far we have everton, fredy and sneijder on radar... hmm...
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no nid kesian, we will bounce back after  #moyesout

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RVP out again. Guess u gonna see rooney + kagawa again brows.gif
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fredy guarin anyone?
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Summer: Negotiate cheap transfer to possible signings, nothing materialise.

When nobody wants to come, buy Fellaini when his buy out clause have expired. Bought higher when can have him cheaper.

January: Repeat what happen in the summer.
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Van Persie out for a month.. a sign of concern.. doh.gif

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Van Persie out for a month.. a sign of concern..  doh.gif

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SGSuser #hwangmiyoungout #sinoin how?? Ok ah? My "manager" experience damn gooding than allegri + di canio + DM leh brows.gif brows.gif #sgsuserin #snsdin brows.gif
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^ my mobo koyak riao later go rma. Dunno wen will come back. Knn less than a year weh. mad.gif u can go THAT tered ------>>>>>> & chk it out riao. brows.gif

Damn sian Sat no our match. Not bother wif othr palia matches. Sigh......
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Robin van Persie: Man Utd striker out for a month with thigh injury
http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/25369639


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Guarin first, then Muriel or even the ever impressive Falcao? brows.gif Maybe Rodriguez? Can make hipster team combo already along with Janujaz and Fellaini. wub.gif

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so moyes are scouting eliaquim mangala instead of koke it seem..

sees as among european hottest talent he sure wont be cheap

guarin look like an aggresive player wt good composure.. i like drool.gif
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I panic leh... rvp injured... How are we suppose to make it to top 4???? Unless we make a marque signing that could change our game!
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relax bro.. life without Van Persie is indeed agony.. rclxub.gif

hopefully Rooney can get us the winning goal at Villa Park.. thumbup.gif
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^  my mobo koyak riao later go rma. Dunno wen will come back. Knn less than a year weh. mad.gif  u can go THAT tered ------>>>>>> & chk it out riao.  brows.gif

Damn sian Sat no our match. Not bother wif othr palia matches. Sigh......
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Robin van Persie: Man Utd striker out for a month with thigh injury
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