Jun 24 2006, 10:02 PM, updated 2y ago
Package includes: Cables and depent on package
Price: Check option below
Warranty: 2 weeks
Dealing method: COD / Post
Location of seller: Serdang , Can COD at midvalley
Contact method/details: PM Me. Those who have my number, can SMS me
Age of item: NEW
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Item(s) conditions: NEW, Great. will double check before sell.
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Canare Cables
Canare F-10 Plugs
Canare F-12 Plugs
Rean Plugs
9" Canare L-2T2S with 2X Taiwan Gold Plated Plug
For more picture, pls see pages behind.
PcWork Extreme Stereo-RCA (RM 145)
PcWork Extreme RCA-RCA ( 2M = RM 195, 1M = RM 165)
Audiophile Quality Stereo phono to Stereo Minijack.
1/4" stereo ==> 1/8" Stereo
EST Made in japan 1/4"
Canare F-12
Canare Starquad L-4E6S
RM 80
Suitable for Grado user with big plug, which wanna plug into portable amp.
also suitable for sennheiser user too.
(PcWork Extreme Version available soon)
Impedance Adapter (far right, under the Shuffle, with two pcWork audio sticker.
Available resistance = 33 ohm, 51 ohm, 75 ohm
Neutrik Stereo 3.5mm plug With customized barrel
EST Made in japan 1/8" Sterel plug female
PcWork Extreme Cable
Two hand match resistor to ensure exact same resistance value
RM 55
KSC75 Recable
PcWork Extreme Cable,
Neutrik Stereo plug 3.5mm
RM 60
Customers Feedback
QUOTE(yrh0413 @ Jul 13 2006, 09:34 AM)
Some feedbacks as promised:Setup:
EMU0404 and original analog breakout
Custom made dual 6.5mm mono male to 3.5mm stereo female (RM15)
PcWork's custom EMU0404 D9 to 6.5mm stereo female plug
6.5mm stereo male to 3.5mm stereo female converter
Altec Lansing ATP3
Altec Lansing el-cheapo RM30 headphones
^ lolz, ultra low budget setup
Received the cable yesterday afternoon, and plugged it on my EMU card straightly after i reached home. Found that the screws of the D9 connector is too troublesome to screw it tight so i took our the thumb screw from the original EMU analog breakout cable and tried to replace it on PcWork's cable. No avail though coz it just won't fit.
Argh, never mind... just stick with the small screws then. And there it goes... i connect PcWork's cable to my 6.5mm to 3.5mm converter, and plugged in my headphones. Oh man... its really sucks! The bass was very muddy and the vocals were unclear. But then i never tried pairing this headphones with my EMU card as i don't have the proper breakout cable.
Next test is on my ATP3. First thing i notice... very obvious improvements! Bass is very tight and the vocals are clearer now. Moreover it manage to pick up a lot of details that i never heard before on those particular songs. I auditioned it in my room from 8pm to 11pm and still i was amaze with it
Thanks man! Really appreciate this cable! But then... still funding for AegoM
QUOTE(elhh82 @ Jul 13 2006, 10:45 AM)
Heres some feedback from me too, got my cables on Sunday, sorry posted these comments a bit late. I got the RCA - RCA cables with the canare plugs.
I met up with PcWork in Serdang on Sunday, and we had quite a long chat. You can see that this guy is really proud of his work, he kept telling me stories about the cable, and showing me parts of the cable. He took the cable back so many times to show me stuff, i thought he was going to change his mind and not sell me the cable..
Anyway, i've been listening to them for the past few days on my Silverstone EB-01 + Aego 2 setup, and i'm quite impressed. If you listen to jazz music i'm sure you'll love these cables. The acoustic instruments all sound much more pleasant and realistic compared to the standard aego 2 cables i was using before. Quite obvious improvements in terms of clarity and details.
I met up with PcWork in Serdang on Sunday, and we had quite a long chat. You can see that this guy is really proud of his work, he kept telling me stories about the cable, and showing me parts of the cable. He took the cable back so many times to show me stuff, i thought he was going to change his mind and not sell me the cable..
Anyway, i've been listening to them for the past few days on my Silverstone EB-01 + Aego 2 setup, and i'm quite impressed. If you listen to jazz music i'm sure you'll love these cables. The acoustic instruments all sound much more pleasant and realistic compared to the standard aego 2 cables i was using before. Quite obvious improvements in terms of clarity and details.
QUOTE(PowerSlide @ Aug 22 2006, 10:44 AM)
listening now..1st thing notice is how smoother the bass is..b4 this its kinda boomy..will listen longer 1st to spot the changes..but 1 thing..ur cable has shame the stock emu 
n the quality is really nice bro..u done a very evry good job
n the quality is really nice bro..u done a very evry good job
QUOTE(^XsLaYa^ @ , Aug 20 2006, 11:24 PM)
Harlo, haha yeah selling them off since i got yours already. No use keeping extra hahaha. So far so good your cable. Sound better every day, now still burning in. I also borrow the rca to rca to my fren to test. Waiting for his results.
QUOTE(scottiebaby @ Jun 12 2007, 10:07 PM)
hey brader,
juz wanted to update u on the SQ of your 6wire litz style cable. i've recently been given sporean diy headfier Qsilver's best quality Analoge Reference mini IC cable to try. after listening for a few days straight, i can honestly say.....i cannot hear any difference. i would say (for now) your cable is just as good! goodjob buddie!
juz wanted to update u on the SQ of your 6wire litz style cable. i've recently been given sporean diy headfier Qsilver's best quality Analoge Reference mini IC cable to try. after listening for a few days straight, i can honestly say.....i cannot hear any difference. i would say (for now) your cable is just as good! goodjob buddie!
QUOTE(scottiebabie @ Jun 13 2007, 08:30 PM)
I 've been using PCWORKs 6wire Litz Style IC cables for a few weeks now in replacement of the original PCWORK normal diy canare IC. However it only took me a few days of critical listening before I was able to discern small but noticeable sonic differences between PCdude's new 6wire litz and his old 4wire canare cables.
Before I come up with flowery and big money words to describe the sonic attributes of the new 6wire litz IC, I have to add the disclaimer that I was NOT a believer in the long held and just as controversial view that cables make a sonic difference. I always thought that given decent initial quality, a cable is a cable is a cable. Copper is copper is copper. How much more simple is that? I was proven wrong by my own ears. I could hear a difference!
Recent experiences in choosing capacitor values for my new Gmod modifications taught this old dog some tricks regarding the sonic effects capacitance has on sound. Also the recent acquisition of an ER4 p-s impedance adapter of 75ohms (again beautifully made by PCdude) have again shown me the sonic traits imparted by impedance. Based on these experiences, I can conclude that cable impedance and capacitance are the major culprits of "cable sound". It is my personal opinion that the best cables should have no sound signature. Transparency is the holy grail of cables (and indeed, of source too IMO). Their task is to carry the audio signal as pure and as unadulterated as possible from one end to the other.Â
So what does this have to do with cable sonic differences and this supposed review? Well, after only taking up audiophilia with any serious intentions for a relatively short time, I can honestly admit that I do not know how to review cables! I mean I can say the 6wire litz give more bass and that the treble seems livelier with unadulterated (boy I love this word for some reason) honesty but I interpret that as greater transparency and resolution. Instead of the 6wire litz "giving" more bass, it is my opinion that the positive sonic differences I hear is due to its greater resolution and transparency. The greater electrical conducting capacity of the 6wire litz carries a purer unadulterated audio signal. Period! And I heard it as greater bass, livelier treble and increased clarity and sparkle. That said, the differences I could discern (the Gmod helped greatly btw) are not of biblical or even monumental proportions. Though small it is discernable if one is listening with sufficient clarity of mind and concentration (and sobriety helps in my case).
Again recent experiences demo'ing our new Gmod showed me the differences in remarks, impressions and opinions from different people even though everyone's listening to the samething. The one thing that everyone concluded is the Gmod is much better than normal lineout. Other than that, its more bass, less bass, tighter bass, bigger slam, more treble extension, more forward mids, better vocals, wider soundstage, bigger stage, more depth, more details, better dynamics, greater PRaT, increased speed and quickness, greater clarity, better tonality, brighter, yadi yadi yada.......! Take your pick of phases and use it in your statement and it'll still ring true even though the next guy has a different set. To me they're all interpreting and describing what is IMO an increase in resolution and transparency.
So to conclude, the newer PCWORK 6wire litz cable (don't know which make as I didn't ask) is more transparent and resolved than the normal 4wire canare cable IMO. Not mind bendingly so but its significant enough for me. YMMV of'coz. O plus the fact the 6wire interweave is so cool.
But wait, there's part deux...
Last week I was fortunate enough to be handed a set of custom top-of-the-line Analogue Reference mini IC cable made by a well known s'pore headfier to audition. I've been listening to it from my Gmod 'pod to Tomahawk driving my modded iM716. For the longest time, I honestly cannot hear any differences as both are very very good (as least compared to my former canare IC) and sounded identical. And so I did my normal reviewing tactic of just using the AR only for the next few days till a few hours ago. And the result is.....(drumroll)......I still honestly (and unadulteratedly) cannot discern any significant difference! They are both that good.
Now since I've promised a review and reviews need conclusions, I've resorted to a mental exercise I'm well versed in esp.on cold and wet lonely nights. I'll pretend a gorgeous babe with serious booties flashing me some indecent cleavage and making goo goo eyes at me with promises of other "goodies" to come if and only if I stand up, be a man, stop the namby-pamby and make a decisive decision! In that moment of bloodlust insanity, I'll probably blurt out that the AR have a feline hair more bass with the accompanying warmth and the 6wire PCWORK Litz might have the slightest (again by a feline hair) upper end extension and clarity. So who's the winner here? Hmmm...I guess it would depend on whether I'm game for a fuller bottom or in the mood for some extended lungs at that very moment. Please take my prior statement with not only a pinch of salt but with the skepticism that it's the ramblings of a man push to the edge and made to choose by a PYT (Pretty Young Thing la, what else??). Its tantamount to critiquing Cindy Crawford's mole!
Whatever my ramblings, IMHO the real winner is us. We in this part of the world have dedicated DIY'ers that not only put in the requisite time and effort, they put in a lot of themselves and it shows in the quality of their workmanship and QC. I for one am supremely grateful I get to sample their wares even while not fully comprehending the amount of work and pride that goes into each IC. The word handcrafted shines like a beacon in this world of increasing automation. Whatever the price charged (and I'm absolutely positive its way wayyy cheaper than the ICs Americans and Europeans pay) I would not be begrudging their small profit for a lot of effort but I'd be afraid they may not have the free time available to custom make me an IC esp.in this increasingly hectic and stress filled rat-race we call modern society.
Disclaimer:
Ahhh...no, sad to admit but I'm NOT paid by either party for this review (hint:I'm doing this out of the goodness of my heart but more importantly, also in the hope I get sent more toyz to play with and inlieu of toyz, cash also works). As usual, this is only my humble opinion with my current gear. YMMV and despite my convincing argument, its the gray matter between your ears that holds the key.
Before I come up with flowery and big money words to describe the sonic attributes of the new 6wire litz IC, I have to add the disclaimer that I was NOT a believer in the long held and just as controversial view that cables make a sonic difference. I always thought that given decent initial quality, a cable is a cable is a cable. Copper is copper is copper. How much more simple is that? I was proven wrong by my own ears. I could hear a difference!
Recent experiences in choosing capacitor values for my new Gmod modifications taught this old dog some tricks regarding the sonic effects capacitance has on sound. Also the recent acquisition of an ER4 p-s impedance adapter of 75ohms (again beautifully made by PCdude) have again shown me the sonic traits imparted by impedance. Based on these experiences, I can conclude that cable impedance and capacitance are the major culprits of "cable sound". It is my personal opinion that the best cables should have no sound signature. Transparency is the holy grail of cables (and indeed, of source too IMO). Their task is to carry the audio signal as pure and as unadulterated as possible from one end to the other.Â
So what does this have to do with cable sonic differences and this supposed review? Well, after only taking up audiophilia with any serious intentions for a relatively short time, I can honestly admit that I do not know how to review cables! I mean I can say the 6wire litz give more bass and that the treble seems livelier with unadulterated (boy I love this word for some reason) honesty but I interpret that as greater transparency and resolution. Instead of the 6wire litz "giving" more bass, it is my opinion that the positive sonic differences I hear is due to its greater resolution and transparency. The greater electrical conducting capacity of the 6wire litz carries a purer unadulterated audio signal. Period! And I heard it as greater bass, livelier treble and increased clarity and sparkle. That said, the differences I could discern (the Gmod helped greatly btw) are not of biblical or even monumental proportions. Though small it is discernable if one is listening with sufficient clarity of mind and concentration (and sobriety helps in my case).
Again recent experiences demo'ing our new Gmod showed me the differences in remarks, impressions and opinions from different people even though everyone's listening to the samething. The one thing that everyone concluded is the Gmod is much better than normal lineout. Other than that, its more bass, less bass, tighter bass, bigger slam, more treble extension, more forward mids, better vocals, wider soundstage, bigger stage, more depth, more details, better dynamics, greater PRaT, increased speed and quickness, greater clarity, better tonality, brighter, yadi yadi yada.......! Take your pick of phases and use it in your statement and it'll still ring true even though the next guy has a different set. To me they're all interpreting and describing what is IMO an increase in resolution and transparency.
So to conclude, the newer PCWORK 6wire litz cable (don't know which make as I didn't ask) is more transparent and resolved than the normal 4wire canare cable IMO. Not mind bendingly so but its significant enough for me. YMMV of'coz. O plus the fact the 6wire interweave is so cool.
But wait, there's part deux...
Last week I was fortunate enough to be handed a set of custom top-of-the-line Analogue Reference mini IC cable made by a well known s'pore headfier to audition. I've been listening to it from my Gmod 'pod to Tomahawk driving my modded iM716. For the longest time, I honestly cannot hear any differences as both are very very good (as least compared to my former canare IC) and sounded identical. And so I did my normal reviewing tactic of just using the AR only for the next few days till a few hours ago. And the result is.....(drumroll)......I still honestly (and unadulteratedly) cannot discern any significant difference! They are both that good.
Now since I've promised a review and reviews need conclusions, I've resorted to a mental exercise I'm well versed in esp.on cold and wet lonely nights. I'll pretend a gorgeous babe with serious booties flashing me some indecent cleavage and making goo goo eyes at me with promises of other "goodies" to come if and only if I stand up, be a man, stop the namby-pamby and make a decisive decision! In that moment of bloodlust insanity, I'll probably blurt out that the AR have a feline hair more bass with the accompanying warmth and the 6wire PCWORK Litz might have the slightest (again by a feline hair) upper end extension and clarity. So who's the winner here? Hmmm...I guess it would depend on whether I'm game for a fuller bottom or in the mood for some extended lungs at that very moment. Please take my prior statement with not only a pinch of salt but with the skepticism that it's the ramblings of a man push to the edge and made to choose by a PYT (Pretty Young Thing la, what else??). Its tantamount to critiquing Cindy Crawford's mole!
Whatever my ramblings, IMHO the real winner is us. We in this part of the world have dedicated DIY'ers that not only put in the requisite time and effort, they put in a lot of themselves and it shows in the quality of their workmanship and QC. I for one am supremely grateful I get to sample their wares even while not fully comprehending the amount of work and pride that goes into each IC. The word handcrafted shines like a beacon in this world of increasing automation. Whatever the price charged (and I'm absolutely positive its way wayyy cheaper than the ICs Americans and Europeans pay) I would not be begrudging their small profit for a lot of effort but I'd be afraid they may not have the free time available to custom make me an IC esp.in this increasingly hectic and stress filled rat-race we call modern society.
Disclaimer:
Ahhh...no, sad to admit but I'm NOT paid by either party for this review (hint:I'm doing this out of the goodness of my heart but more importantly, also in the hope I get sent more toyz to play with and inlieu of toyz, cash also works). As usual, this is only my humble opinion with my current gear. YMMV and despite my convincing argument, its the gray matter between your ears that holds the key.
QUOTE(scottiebabie @ Jun 14 2007, 02:22 AM)
i dont know the specifics in the science of cables and of braids. i can however tell ya that canare starquads are 4 twist wires so it is a kinda braid too. i think braiding is only to make the cables neat and tidy (and has major cool factor as a bonus) but the sonics should be the same regardless if all 6 wires are braided, tied up, twisted up or just hanging individually (perhaps someone more experienced in S&M can chime in here 
).
that said, having multi core (6 in this case) in comparison with a single core must change the inductance/capacitance/impedance to some extend even if its just minute amounts. this might account for the fact that cables only make low percentage of differences in relation to all other factors. also do keep in mind that it doesnt take a whole lot to alter a signal to make an audible difference.
anyways my conclusions are garnered the old fashioned way - through good old critical listening. measurement are great and all but we all know that specs do not tell the whole story. even the cheapest dvd/cd players nowadays sport incredible specs esp. compare to old fashion tube stuff. IMO the strength of measurements are its accuracy but we dont measure everything and its impratical to do so. an audio signal comprising a song isnt just 1 particular measurement. infact its probably infinite in how many parameters that can be measured. perhaps its the unmeasured that makes the difference.
there are two comparos here really. the 1st is btwn PCdudes Litz againt a regular 4wire canare starquad. and in that instance i agree totally wit TEK. the Litz does give the impression of a fuller bottom as noted in the 1st part of my review. it is my opinion that as resolution increase, pratically all aspects of the sound improves. perhaps it our ears and our gear that limits us to just 1 particular aspect. Etymotics are famed for their accurate albeit analytical sound siggy and its also this trait that i so enjoy. it allows me take a much clearer sonic snapshot. theres no doubt in my mind that the Litz is more resolving than the basic starquad.
the 2nd comparo of the Litz with the Analogue Reference presents a far far tougher task. to me, its like asking which color lingerie does Cindy Crawford look better in?? perhaps someone else with better taste than mine can answer this.Â
LOL! anywz, to me the Litz presents a clearer picture while the AR sports a warmer coat. but dont misunderstand me here guyz, im talking differences of perhaps 0.5-1% between the Litz and the AR (if any at all) while the difference btwn Litz/AR and normal starquad is perhaps 5%. IMHO of'coz
regardless this has been an interesting exercise for me and i thought i'd share it with my fellow headcases. im glad some of you's enjoyed it
This post has been edited by PcWork: Jan 27 2010, 03:11 PM ).that said, having multi core (6 in this case) in comparison with a single core must change the inductance/capacitance/impedance to some extend even if its just minute amounts. this might account for the fact that cables only make low percentage of differences in relation to all other factors. also do keep in mind that it doesnt take a whole lot to alter a signal to make an audible difference.
anyways my conclusions are garnered the old fashioned way - through good old critical listening. measurement are great and all but we all know that specs do not tell the whole story. even the cheapest dvd/cd players nowadays sport incredible specs esp. compare to old fashion tube stuff. IMO the strength of measurements are its accuracy but we dont measure everything and its impratical to do so. an audio signal comprising a song isnt just 1 particular measurement. infact its probably infinite in how many parameters that can be measured. perhaps its the unmeasured that makes the difference.
there are two comparos here really. the 1st is btwn PCdudes Litz againt a regular 4wire canare starquad. and in that instance i agree totally wit TEK. the Litz does give the impression of a fuller bottom as noted in the 1st part of my review. it is my opinion that as resolution increase, pratically all aspects of the sound improves. perhaps it our ears and our gear that limits us to just 1 particular aspect. Etymotics are famed for their accurate albeit analytical sound siggy and its also this trait that i so enjoy. it allows me take a much clearer sonic snapshot. theres no doubt in my mind that the Litz is more resolving than the basic starquad.
the 2nd comparo of the Litz with the Analogue Reference presents a far far tougher task. to me, its like asking which color lingerie does Cindy Crawford look better in?? perhaps someone else with better taste than mine can answer this.Â
LOL! anywz, to me the Litz presents a clearer picture while the AR sports a warmer coat. but dont misunderstand me here guyz, im talking differences of perhaps 0.5-1% between the Litz and the AR (if any at all) while the difference btwn Litz/AR and normal starquad is perhaps 5%. IMHO of'coz regardless this has been an interesting exercise for me and i thought i'd share it with my fellow headcases. im glad some of you's enjoyed it
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