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mirage81
post Jan 27 2014, 10:45 AM

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Hi guys! saw Meguairs's product on sale at 1U home-fix 15%

New Car Kit at RM178.50.. wonder worth it or nt? btw if i wanna clean up all the stains and water mark for this situation.. which procedure to recommend? does claying will do the job?


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post Jan 27 2014, 12:08 PM

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QUOTE(KrisMas @ Jan 27 2014, 11:24 AM)
Megs New Car Kit is only for maintenance. If you want to clean stain and watermarks you need add a polish - Megs Ultimate Polish.....
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Let said if my car had coating. Can i still to use Ultimate Polish? will it hurt my coating?
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post Jan 27 2014, 03:23 PM

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QUOTE(KrisMas @ Jan 27 2014, 02:30 PM)
It most probably would. Bt if got stain & spots which can't wash off then the coating isn't doing that well anymore....
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Thx...later will check out on d products..would like make my car kilat b4 cny... biggrin.gif
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post Jan 27 2014, 05:11 PM

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QUOTE(CoffeeDude @ Jan 27 2014, 05:03 PM)
I did the kilating during Christmas. LOL!
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CNY 1 more time kilat kilat bro... brows.gif
taken leave starting on 29th.. planning shine kau kau on it dy..
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post Jan 28 2014, 10:50 AM

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hi there found out this Meg's Proffesional Paste Wax Item #M1611
wonder is it gd or nt, comparing with Ultimate series? any1 have idea? thanks


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post Jan 28 2014, 11:03 AM

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QUOTE(g88 @ Jan 28 2014, 10:59 AM)
M16 is rare and its way better than Ultimate series wax
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is it? i found out the price is cheaper oso.. RM74 only. even Ultimate had discount would oso cost me abt RM 140 rclxub.gif

btw is there any expire date on wax product ya? sorry kinda noob abt it.. plz enlighten me.. unsure.gif

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post Jan 28 2014, 11:23 AM

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QUOTE(KrisMas @ Jan 28 2014, 11:15 AM)
M16 is an excellent 'traditional' wax. I say it's 'traditional' cuz it's like decades ago when this first came out.

Pro: Very durable; nice & clean looking (though no 'deep-look' like carnauba waxes); offers good protection; would rival the notorious Collonite 476.

Cons: application is a bit difficult as you'd need a clean surface; on not-so-clean surface (topping up, etc) you'd get terrible streaking/clouding; would stain plastics and trims; this is a wax that would test your 'apply sparingly' technique to the limit - just a little bit too thick then you'd have a big problem in your hand in removing the residue.

Can't compare with the Ultimate range cuz I haven't used them enough to form an opinion. But for the M16, I have 2 cans and that's more than enough to pass down a couple of generations.... tongue.gif
One of the can that I have is easily more than 5 years old and hasn't shown any sign of deterioration AT ALL....and who knows how long has it been in storage before I bought it....
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Wow.. u did keep stock for it? i had read some review but it is in 2004-2005. now it had stop production..
coz i had just bought the Meg's New Car Kit.. it include a small bottle of Ultimate Liquid Wax, just wonder should i keep on continue on the Ultimate or change to this #16

i found out Liquid is very easy to use, but not use abt Paste.. im a newbie just started to take care my car...
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post Jan 28 2014, 11:40 AM

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QUOTE(KrisMas @ Jan 28 2014, 11:34 AM)
My suggestion for you is to keep using the more modern sealants/waxes, they're more user friendly. The 'old school' paste waxes is a little different and a little tedious in term of application. Furthermore, M16 doesn't like too much if applied, like I said before, on not-so-clean surface - you'd need to at least use a paint cleaner/mild polish before each application or else you'd get all sort of problems.

But, saying all that, if applied correctly, I honestly don't think there are many other affordable sealants/waxes out there that can better or match its performance....muahahaha....

*shucks*....thinking back....I think my can(s) of M16 are more than 10 years old already.....
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Thanks for ur suggestion.. will continue use back the Ultimate, and buy 1can M16 keep stock first..


btw ur M16 is more than 10 years old?! would it be dry up? till like this....


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post Jan 28 2014, 01:39 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Jan 28 2014, 12:07 PM)
you could use the paste for larger/easier panels, then the modern ultimate wax for everything and then layer on top of the paste wink.gif
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Sound gd! Thank for the suggestion smile.gif
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post Jan 28 2014, 02:35 PM

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QUOTE(KrisMas @ Jan 28 2014, 02:31 PM)

Nope. Looks nothing like that. Still moist and wet..... tongue.gif
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Ya another question... had read some article said that for pearl white car is not suitable to use carnauba-based waxes is it true? thanks
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QUOTE(KrisMas @ Jan 28 2014, 02:59 PM)
Have you ever seen any labels on the bottle/can from any brands of wax that mention DO NOT USE ON WHITE CARS? Well....I haven't....and I've never heard such a thing.

Maybe what the article meant to say is you couldn't get that deep carnauba-look on a white coloured car when using a carnauba-based waxes, hence not so suitable if that's what you're looking for. If for protection and the rest of other stuffs, I don't think there's any difference whether the colour is white or black...I mean clear coat is clear coat and they're the same regardless what the colour is underneath......
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Oh Yea! thank for tips.. will proceed to buy later after work

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post Jan 28 2014, 07:41 PM

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QUOTE(g88 @ Jan 28 2014, 05:25 PM)
where did u saw it for RM74 ?
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It is at 1U home fix...but this item got no discount..others still got..
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post Feb 4 2014, 05:33 PM

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QUOTE(KrisMas @ Feb 4 2014, 03:16 PM)
I'm helping out a friend to unload some detailing stuffs...sad to say he's decided to move on and do something else. Anybody interested PM me for the list. Doing some charity work for him and you guys here...win-win deal...

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Yea...interested with it..drop me PM see wht ur friend have..thanks
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post Feb 5 2014, 11:01 PM

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Spend the whole day detaling my old car..

1) turtle wax rinse free as spray detailer
2) ultimate wash & wax to wash up
3) claying with quik detailer
4) rinse again with turtle wax rinse free
5) polish with the Magic 101
6) rinse again
7) Maguairs M16 to wax up

Man! It damn tire to use hand to do all these...
But that Mag' M16 is damn good compare with the Ultimate Wax..

Just wanna ask usually after waxing..do i need to top up with Ultimate Quik Wax or Ultimate Quik detalier? Or just leave it? Any1 can guide me?

Thanks
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post Feb 5 2014, 11:04 PM

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QUOTE(windskill @ Feb 5 2014, 10:50 PM)
Osren has this kind of sprayer. One should cost around RM16 if i am not mistaken.

Update: Wait a second. Found even cheaper sprayer LOL
http://www.sgcbonline.com.my/product-718270.html
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This kind of spray bottle..usually i buy in pasar malan bro...much more cheaper.. smile.gif
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post Feb 6 2014, 12:37 AM

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QUOTE(windskill @ Feb 5 2014, 11:08 PM)
Yea, actually it works the same too.  biggrin.gif
I don't think there's a need to top up with Quik Wax or Quik Detailer. An overlapping action when waxing should give you a good coverage of wax on the paint surface.

Top up quik wax only when you do your weekly/bi-weekly car wash maintenance (especially when you think the water can't really bead well on the paint surface)
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Oh got it...then how abt the Ultimate Quik Detailer? In wht situation i should use this item? Some ppl suggest to use it top up on the base wax as it to enhance the water repel ; some are after wash then use UQD..

I realise this QD is very high consume...yet UQD quite expansive compare with others Mag's liquid product

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QUOTE(scoutfai @ Feb 6 2014, 07:46 AM)
Meguiar's Ultimate Quik Detailer, as the name suggests, is just a quik detailer, which is a kind of mild cleaning agent for user to spray and wipe in order to clean up finger print, light dust, bird drops, etc. It is more suitable for maintenance use, i.e. after you park your car, the next morning you see a lot of dusts landed on it, or your kids finger print are all over the panel. Then you can wipe it using quick detailer.

Nevertheless, another good selling point about Meguiar's Ultimate Quik Detailer, is its superior water beading effect! Really boost up your car panel water repellent property. If you are the kind of guy who goes after crazy water beading effect, you can top up with the Meguiar's Ultimate Quick Detailer after the wax cure for about 1 night, just in case.

I tried it once and is very impressed by its water beading property. I am equally impressed by the price tag though. So I never use it again, I do not feel the tiny water bead worth every cent I am paying. LOL
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Thanks for guidance ... notworthy.gif

anyway beside than Meguairs's Ultimate Quik Detailer... is there any product to introduce where can dilute with water.. looking for somethin economic. cheers!
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post Feb 6 2014, 12:38 PM

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QUOTE(scoutfai @ Feb 6 2014, 11:56 AM)
Like KrisMas has said, I too never came across or aware of any product that function like Meguiar's Ultimate Quik Detailer, but in large volume and can be diluted with water.
Meguiar's Ultimate Quik Detailer is a consumer range product, only sold in that size.
So yes I do agree with you it is not economical. If you have a weekend car then probably worth it but if your car is daily driver, I do not think worth the money. A good wax alone can provide equally amazing water beading effect.

The following product by Meguiar's is in large volume only:
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D155 Detailer Last Touch Spray Detailer, 1 Gallon
This one if used as clay lubricant can be diluted half water half product. For use as quik detailer purpose, straight out of the container, no dilution.

But it has no Hydrophobic Polymer Technology like the Ultimate Quik Detailer. So it will only clean up light dust, finger print, smudge, etc. But will not boost water beading effect. However if only intended to use as spray quik detailer then this is suitable.

The following has Hydrophobic Polymer Technology, so it should boost water beading as good as Meguiar's Ultimate Quik Detailer:
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If you want boost up your wax water beading, try spray wax instead. Spray wax available in large volume.
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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Feb 6 2014, 11:58 AM)
again, QD. eg: random bird shit drop on hood, 1 small spot. you don't wash the whole car just for a spot right? that's when QD comes in. they have cleaning properties (eg: IPA, which may actually strip wax if not careful) which will dissolve dirt or in this case, that bird shit.

stuff like bird dropping/tar/tree sap/bugs etc are best cleaned before they harden/etch to the paint surface/clear coat. and QD is essential in doing that. i keep a very small spray bottle in my new car and whenever i see a spot i just whip out that bottle and tissue paper to QD>wipe smile.gif
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Thanks for the info bros.. learn something on "toys".. will try to see how much the price the Spray Detailer..

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QUOTE(jchue73 @ Feb 6 2014, 12:46 PM)
g88 mentioned this previously that as alternative to UQD, you can use Meguiars M135. It's the professional range series of the UQD that can be bought in a gallon.

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He also suggested alternatively you can get a gallon of ONR and dilute it as QD. The decision to use ONR / any other rinseless type of product like Meguiars D114 or M135 / UQD depends on how much dirt you want to clean. UQD is usually very light dust and dirt.
From my very limited experience, if the surface is not clean, you'll experience cloudy / streaking on the paint your're waxing. At least that happens to the waxes I use.
I read that the Last Touch was suppose to be the one to use but now with newer products, people skip this and got for M135. Perhaps due to it's hydrophobic qualities.
The professional / detailer version of Meguiars spray wax is the D156.
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All these professional series kinda rare to get it on market... hardly find on Ace Hardware shop.. sad.gif
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post Feb 7 2014, 02:14 PM

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@KrisMas Bro... damn man.. saw the advertising promotion on their fb.. wanted to grab the BS Detailer... so just went there to see on their SONAX product..

The boss is very friendly, he come and greet us
explain on their products and do some demo on my friend BLACK HONDA CIVIC.. the result is nt bad.... thumbup.gif

ended up bought lots of products... very poison place.. lolzz

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