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post Aug 7 2014, 01:06 AM

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QUOTE(KrisMas @ Aug 6 2014, 09:43 AM)
Normal super glue would harden the foam, making it brittle and destroying it. Gorilla glue would soak into and fused with the foam, it bond with the foam structure, and doesn't cure as hard and brittle as super glue.
D155 (or Megs Quick Detailer) is 'traditional' QD, for light cleaning with a little bit of gloss enhancer - provide no protection.
M135 (or Megs Ultimate Quick Detailer) is a QD with added hydrophobic (water beading) booster/enhancer, for topping up and 'boosting' water beading - add a little bit of protection.
D156 (or Megs Ultimate Spray Wax) is a spray wax for maintenance/topping up of existing wax - add more protection than D135 but less than normal waxes/sealants.

For use as clay lube, better go for D155 or Megs Quick Detailer as it's meant for lubricating the surface for safer removal and cleaning of light dusting (some even use it as a 'no rinse' or 'waterless' wash). M135 and D156 also got lubricant but its only meant to facilitate the easy spreading of the polymer/wax/sealant...so it's not meant to lubricate the surface per se. Furthermore, M135 is also loaded with solvent that *could* damage clay bars cuz, I kid you not, it can remove some weaker waxes/sealants and also minor water spots. Not sure about the effect of D156 cuz I haven't try it as a clay lube before.

For QD job, I tend to also dilute D155 at 1:1 and spray it more liberally than 'normal'...much like using a 'no rinse' or 'waterless' wash. I know the instructions says to use it neat but it's just my personal preference and it worked for me. Maybe I just didn't get the technique/method right but most of the time I would get *very* light marring.

You might be onto something there....D155 & D156 being a 'maintenance twin'. But just be careful with the QD though. For me, it worked quite well as a clay lube but I just couldn't make it work as 'light cleaner' of dust other right after a good wash.
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GLUE MASTER!! notworthy.gif opening the next ultimate quick detailer soon today I went home I saw BIRD SHOT ON MY CAR!!

QUOTE(KrisMas @ Aug 6 2014, 09:57 AM)
Worst case:
RM45/473ml = RM0.09/ml
RM150/3.78L = RM0.04/ml

....already a little more than 50% saving... tongue.gif  go go go....HAHAHAHA.....
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Need find good people to buy first ...


QUOTE(efaceninja @ Aug 6 2014, 05:29 PM)
why the master here knows so much about a super glue as well... sweat.gif lols

Anyway, if i buy D155, my original main purpose would be as a kind of very light duty cleaner worr.  meaning like a QD wipe after washing car, or QD wipe before wax (if i do wax), or QD wipe after wax.  Or sometimes OCD want to wipe off those very fine dust 2-3 days after a car wash.  And of course as clay lube as well (currently use shampoo mix)  I suppose QD mist & wipes will not damage the wax layer right? (ULW here).

if i get D156 as well, will plan to spray it once a month.  but D156 also seems more expensive than D155.  and not sure if can be used with 1:1 dilution as well.
for D155, i plan to get one for myself only rolleyes.gif  rolleyes.gif can use for like.. many yearssss
for D156, maybe need share share a bit haha.
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You buy gallon I think is a lot worth man..

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post Aug 7 2014, 09:51 AM

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QUOTE(efaceninja @ Aug 6 2014, 05:29 PM)
why the master here knows so much about a super glue as well... sweat.gif lols

Anyway, if i buy D155, my original main purpose would be as a kind of very light duty cleaner worr.  meaning like a QD wipe after washing car, or QD wipe before wax (if i do wax), or QD wipe after wax.  Or sometimes OCD want to wipe off those very fine dust 2-3 days after a car wash.  And of course as clay lube as well (currently use shampoo mix)  I suppose QD mist & wipes will not damage the wax layer right? (ULW here).

if i get D156 as well, will plan to spray it once a month.  but D156 also seems more expensive than D155.  and not sure if can be used with 1:1 dilution as well haha.
for D155, i plan to get one for myself only rolleyes.gif  rolleyes.gif can use for like.. many yearssss
for D156, maybe need share share a bit haha.
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Wait im confused .....

M135 is equivalent to Meg's Ultimate Quick Detailer.
D156 is equivalent to Meg's Quick Wax.
D155 is equivalent to?
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post Aug 7 2014, 10:04 AM

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QUOTE(g88 @ Aug 7 2014, 09:56 AM)
D155 consumer version is this

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Nothing to confuse. If you really have gang and contact probably you can only go look for Detailer (gallon) series since its not openly sell to consumer
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Oh haha thanks for that tip... thumbup.gif

Well have to slowly gather gang gang detailer!!! brows.gif
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post Aug 8 2014, 09:49 AM

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QUOTE(g88 @ Aug 7 2014, 10:19 AM)
different period/era got different group...once you into detailer, you will start venturing more and more brand...crazily look for purchase from oversea even the shipment cost is 100-300% then the actual product....
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yeah... just wanna start go for gallons... GF sure mad.gif mad.gif

QUOTE(KrisMas @ Aug 7 2014, 03:14 PM)
That pic was taken quite a few years ago in the store room behind my house. You sure you wanna see/know....? laugh.gif

Here's the cabinet set up under my porch...for the 'regularly used' stuffs....call it a concise version of it..... tongue.gif

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LOL.... This is heaven! notworthy.gif notworthy.gif
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post Aug 11 2014, 09:27 AM

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QUOTE(efaceninja @ Aug 9 2014, 03:29 PM)
while washing my car today, got a few questions wanna ask you all.  Took a photo of the water beading when first rinsing the car (not yet wash).  is it considered good water beading??  this was after 4 weeks of apply ULW. in between weekly got car wash with UWW, and got once apply UQW after wash 2 weeks ago.  the other photo is after washing today, after rinsing, before drying.
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After Wash, before drying[attachmentid=4087121]

Also, wanna show this paint defect on my car.  this is the one i suspect i accidentally dropped a drop of rain repellent on the paint and unattended.  Phobia ever since.  Last week finally break the phobia and bought PG DuraZ & PG Washer Fluid combo pack.  the combo pack is cheaper than a single bottle of RainX.  I know RainX is the defactor brand to go, but just wanna give PG a try.  First clayed the wind screen (and rear, side windows), then polish with a cheapo waxco Glass Polish compound (not sure if it's any good/effect lols, but i think at least it can clean).  Then apply DuraZ.  At the back label of DuraZ, it reads 'apply every 6000km or 8 weeks for optimum results'.  8 weeks, wow  rclxub.gif  rclxub.gif  Today the water still beading pretty good, no sign of wear-off yet.
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also, had took some time to take pictures of other easily spotted paint defects on my car..  so far i've keep ignoring them first, haha.
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Thats good before wash.... thumbup.gif But can be better i guess need to see some parts. laugh.gif thumbup.gif


QUOTE(ZeroSP @ Aug 9 2014, 05:59 PM)
Expensive gila lol...
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Soon you wanna kill my wallet also d!! doh.gif doh.gif

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post Aug 12 2014, 09:39 AM

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QUOTE(KrisMas @ Aug 12 2014, 08:49 AM)
If you mean this one then yes I have. What do you want to know?

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But, in general, don't like the gun...bought it for RM60 & sold it off soon afterwrds. Uses too much shampoo and put out too little sud/foam.
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Yoyo.. Kris hows the Karcher perform?
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post Aug 13 2014, 09:59 AM

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QUOTE(KrisMas @ Aug 12 2014, 02:18 PM)
Yeah....the one above is pretty much useless if you're looking for thick foam that really clings. But I think Karcher had came out with some new ones with adjustable dials and so on. Don't know if they're better.....
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Oh... hmm so what kind of gun you are currently using?
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post Aug 18 2014, 12:16 AM

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QUOTE(efaceninja @ Aug 16 2014, 08:06 AM)
oh, my kahhcangggg
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hmmm... I been looking some winscreen stuff from PG i seen in the internet how was it? hmm.gif hmm.gif

By the way nice detailing you did there! thumbup.gif thumbup.gif
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post Aug 18 2014, 06:46 PM

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QUOTE(efaceninja @ Aug 18 2014, 03:06 PM)
Thanks! smile.gif  the PG DuraZ rain repellent. Ok la, first applied, beads water very good. After 2 weeks, can feel it wear off a bit dy. In the 2 weeks i got use wiper occasionally lor, rain once or twice. I think 3rd week need to reapply if i want maximum water beading all the time! So far still happy with it.
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nice nice where u got that product from?? hmm.gif

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post Aug 19 2014, 10:03 AM

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QUOTE(scoutfai @ Aug 18 2014, 09:07 PM)
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UC definitely has more cutting power than SwirlX. After UC comes Scratch X 2.0 only comes Swirl X.

Left most aggressive, right least aggressive, for SMAT product from Meguiars.
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Here another comprehensive chart but only as a reference.
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Thats once good info...But those line up will cost moneyflies.gif moneyflies.gif moneyflies.gif

QUOTE(scoutfai @ Aug 18 2014, 09:12 PM)
Both requires good skill too.
Plain brute force using hand might cause fingermarks scratch.

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And the reason:
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For some time now i havent got my rotary is been few years im using hand still good. Learn it when i got my first cheap car to test tet. But what i hate is when compound touch those plastic panels, it leave some stain. ><

QUOTE(ZeroSP @ Aug 19 2014, 04:52 AM)
Man, wanna buy Microfiber Madness Mitt and Dry Me Crazy too... But but but... Shipping sad.gif
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winder how is the product perform... Looks very nice from google. laugh.gif laugh.gif
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post Aug 19 2014, 12:51 PM

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QUOTE(N33d @ Aug 19 2014, 10:58 AM)
hi sifu,
plastic part is from my myvi rear wiper due meg gold class wax. The stains has been there for 1 to 2 months, I did not notice it until recently. tried using pencil eraser to wipe and it able to reduce the stains but those stains which sunk in deeper is harder to get out
I might try to post some pic when i back from work
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I usually use quick detailer to remove the contaminant. ALl goes well on that.. But QUICK DETAILER is costly i try not use to much. rclxub.gif rclxub.gif
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post Aug 19 2014, 05:12 PM

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QUOTE(aromachong @ Aug 19 2014, 01:21 PM)
contaminant is easy to remove.. bird drop a bit hard if u leave it long...

and tree drop is the hardest? i wonder what product can remove this tree drop easily?
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Ahh... OK! Well this is how i work with the product for bird shit or a day after a dry tree sap. I spray on the dirt and just wait for a while to let the compound do the work, after that use a microfiber and just wipe it off.


QUOTE(KrisMas @ Aug 19 2014, 02:06 PM)
Try tar remover......
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Never try this before but will test it! hmm.gif hmm.gif

QUOTE(ZeroSP @ Aug 19 2014, 04:41 PM)
You should google up review of Dry Me Crazy, it does what it should be. Look soft and plush but yet absorb and not lint.
Oh, so autocolortech does not carry the machine and compounds?
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Haha since it sounds so cool, does any one sell locally? Does it work like Meguair's Water Magnet? or is it better?
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post Aug 20 2014, 10:04 AM

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QUOTE(ZeroSP @ Aug 19 2014, 06:02 PM)
Far better bro... Ok I know most of you only liked Meg's, but it is really nothing to shout about the Water Magnet, OSREN sells about the same Waffle Weave for much lesser. Yes what from Meg's the 105 and 205 is good no doubt, but other than that you can feel free to explore different brands.

And then you have Cobra, you have Mothers... All performed far better in drying towel series.

And then now you have this Microfiber Madness Dry Me Crazy, a plush mf that acts like a waffle weave drying towel, so that it is far safer to pat down and drag across.

And the bad news, no one sells locally lol.
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i wish i can move to swissvax cause i test once before.. Paste wax for my car! Is so nice, smells good too. SOme times knowing where to buy is still a barrier for me since im new in KL still. And still just started to explore in micro towels. Maybe ill see anyone would wanna take in Mivrofiber Madness.

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post Aug 20 2014, 07:07 PM

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QUOTE(ZeroSP @ Aug 20 2014, 03:41 PM)
Ah yes... Should have thought of that... But then just could not believe that it totally failed lol.
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QUOTE(ZeroSP @ Aug 20 2014, 05:56 PM)
Lol sorry, they only left with LHR21 Standard Kit, RM2300. Deluxe kit is at RM2700.

I asked for LHR15 Kit, they mentioned RM2100 but out of stock.
Eleh, no $$$... Need to makan rumput first.
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wow thats really cost the boom...
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post Aug 25 2014, 01:33 PM

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QUOTE(scoutfai @ Aug 25 2014, 07:39 AM)
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so gonna go there!! icon_idea.gif icon_idea.gif
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post Aug 26 2014, 10:01 AM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Aug 25 2014, 04:45 PM)
i probably wouldn't need aerospace technology (lol) when my "cheaper" ULW/BSD combo is still lasting until this very day laugh.gif
the durability amazes me till no end when i don't even follow proper maintenance due to laziness tongue.gif
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Talking about lasting, my white car still collect alot of dirt... cry.gif cry.gif Been using turtle wax or meguairs wax also not really happy after a week. if its rainthe car start to have the black dirt line. cry.gif
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post Aug 28 2014, 10:28 AM

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QUOTE(KrisMas @ Aug 26 2014, 10:47 AM)
I think dirt line/trace is common in our area. I have them as well on my car (especially the rear portion) which is wearing a glass coat. The question should be how easy is it for them to be wash off (by normal washing). If can easily be wash off by normal wash/shampoo then I think the wax/sealant is doing it's job just fine.
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QUOTE(N33d @ Aug 26 2014, 02:35 PM)
dont be so sad, take that as our metal wife mascara
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Well it remove easily.... But when comes to a busy seaosn for a week or two i have to wash my white car for 2 weeks once. cry.gif Sad the see my car with melted mascara! haha...

Anyway, the other day my neighbour scratch my car deep scratch on the fender and small scratch on the left back door. How sad to see people cant even tolerate to just come to my door step to tell me something. Cause opposite of my house was having a grass cutting and trimming trees. doh.gif




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I think the towels are crazy, i previously tried the Sonax Microfiber. But is not that bad...



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