QUOTE(pristine @ May 11 2015, 11:13 AM)
Hi, I'm looking to get an insurance plan for myself. Other than Prudential and GE being the obvious choices, what other companies should I consider?
I'm 25.
Why not consider AIA as well?I'm 25.
Insurance Talk V2, Anything and everything about insurance
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May 11 2015, 11:41 AM
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May 11 2015, 03:11 PM
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QUOTE(mobileapps @ May 11 2015, 01:49 PM) Just wanna point it out here, since this thread ( https://forum.lowyat.net/topic/3572963 ) was closed, this dude claimed insurance is MLM, which i was refuting. MLM is not about cheating and lying. I hope this is clear to everyone. And his reason for it being MLM: Lying and cheating and not telling your client about what is covered, what isn't, etc is bad and every insurance agents shouldn't follow. Servicing is utmost important. But to post a red herring of how his million dollar senior taught him to cheat and then claim its MLM, is utterly stupid and misleading. Now for all those here who is talking about insurance, is it an MLM? or is this fella trying to con his way. thanks More information here: http://loanstreet.com.my/learning-centre/m...eting-explained To answer your question, yes. The insurance agency distribution system is largely very similar to an MLM. This post has been edited by JIUHWEI: May 11 2015, 03:12 PM |
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May 11 2015, 05:12 PM
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QUOTE(mobileapps @ May 11 2015, 04:36 PM) If i am an agent, and i get my friends to join as an agent under a same agency, would i get commission, even if i dont own the agency? just a normal agent? and if this recruit i recruited sold insurance, will i get commission? if this recruit recruits another agent, will i get commission? If you are an agent, and you get your friends to join as an agent under same agency.does this apply to all insurance companies? You will only be entitled to your own sales commissions. If your friend sold any policies, you will not get any overriding commissions. If this recruit recruits another agent, you will not get any commissions. *Note: There are no commissions from recruitment. Incentives are up to each company's discretion. If you are a unit manager Your friends introduced by you will be in your unit. And you will be their team leader. In this scenario, you will enjoy a small overriding commission from your team's sales. Still no commission from recruitment. If you are the agency leader This basically just means your team is bigger now, with a few unit managers in your team. Overriding commission remains the same percentage, still nothing from recruitment. Basically, there is no commissions from recruitment. In short, everybody earns the same percentage of commissions from a sale. The insurance business goes by sales volume, if you want to make it big in this industry. Are you interested to join the industry? This applies across the board. This post has been edited by JIUHWEI: May 11 2015, 05:13 PM |
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May 11 2015, 05:26 PM
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QUOTE(cherroy @ May 11 2015, 04:16 PM) My personally view (other may disagree, never mind just personal preferences), I think most of us here understand the point that you're trying to make with the 7-years waiting period before the Life Sum Assured is paid out. husband and wife always need to have "cross" saving/money in between them. Some put into husband, some into wife. Even for joint account, it must be either to sign, (I know joint account supposely being frozen as well, but in reality account won't be frozen in the first min) Even for houses, I always said, put either one name, not joint name. The one with name in the house died, needless to pay anymore due to MRTA/MLTA. Joint name, still need to pay. Yes, I agreed with you, there is big difference in term of beneficiaries vs estate distribution as mentioned by you, I am more a realistic and "now" person, today or next week cannot survive due to cashlow, needless to talk something 7 years later. I always look seriously in term of cashflow, as cashflow problem can "bring down" a person as well as a giant big company even with billions of asset. From a corporate/gov perspective, the clause is put in place to prevent fraudulent claims. However, your denying the "financial security" term as a part of what life insurance can do for us, based on this clause, is missing the point. Yes, what you have raised is a very real issue to deal with when in that situation. But denying all the other benefits that comes with life insurance catering towards a stronger sense of financial security for a person... it's not the most progressive way of dealing with the issue for the missing person case that you have brought up. In special circumstances such as MH370, all the life companies honored the claims immediately. It's good to be realistic. But what we are interested and trying to achieve here is forward planning instead of playing a reactionary role. |
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May 12 2015, 02:05 PM
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QUOTE(mobileapps @ May 12 2015, 01:45 PM) LOL, why you wanna grab the MIA persons money? he/she could very well wanna chau lou and enjoy life elsewhere? If the MIA person is your parent, you will actually want to know what happens to their assets.if its kidnapping, murder, etc, a death cert needs to be produced, or wait 7 years. basically, insurance is to mitigate risks. or shared/reduce your risk. financial security comes from other forms of investments, while insurance is to help mitigate unforseen risks. apa mau argue la |
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May 12 2015, 02:10 PM
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May 12 2015, 02:12 PM
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QUOTE(mobileapps @ May 12 2015, 02:10 PM) thats their asset, not mine. by virtue of good ties with parents, we inherit it if our parents allow. we do not demand it. I also suggest that you learn the meaning of "tin kosong".if that parent decides to run away, maybe escape ahlong, gangster, mistress, hates his family, etc, do you think we can make him broke and freeze his accounts and assets by claiming "lost contact"? will banks allow it? and this is a legal issue, nothing to do with insurance, when it comes to claiming assets of your parents. |
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May 12 2015, 02:34 PM
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QUOTE(mobileapps @ May 12 2015, 02:21 PM) Ad Hominem dude. I apologize. But it is my sincere advise to you to learn more about the topic of personal finance. 7 years wait. whats so hard to fathom? what if the person got into accident, got robbed, lost memory, end up in far away places, finally gets home after 5 years and regained memory, then find all his assets and money all gone gobbled up by family? 7 years is there for a reason. you cant simply kosong a persons bank and assets just because he MIA for a year? 1 week? 2 months? come on. and why are you even arguing with me? you and i know insurance shared risks thats all. and the premiums will also be decided on how often you make claims. the more you make, the higher the premium goes, together with age. it isnt so much as a financial security, but as a cushion for rainy days. The matter is on the term "financial security". You can't distant insurance from a person's financial portfolio, which is what provides the person with some level of financial security. We're not on the topic of insurance or investments. At all. We were mainly arguing due to different perspectives towards the term "financial security" in the event of an MIA, and the subsequent events that will follow. Next. When you know nothing about estate planning, best to keep quiet and pick it up from others such as cherroy and roystevenung, myself, or even your agency leader. |
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May 19 2015, 12:12 AM
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QUOTE(MNet @ May 16 2015, 02:53 PM) Is not able the recruitment commission. That's only natural. As I have said before, we go by business volume. Its about sales commission, every person that is been recruited sales commission will channel to upstream. Its mean recurring income from downstream to upstream. The more agent the upstream have, the more recurring commission overriding the upstream get. Remember its per month. Not a 1 time thing. When everybody is getting the same commission rate, those with higher business volume will naturally take more home. |
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May 22 2015, 02:16 PM
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QUOTE(frosteer @ May 21 2015, 11:11 PM) Hihi, I wonder if any Prudential agent here willing to help and provide me a quotation? I'm curious to know, how would you advise her? I'm curious & wanna know how long the quotation below can be sustained. Will it lapse by itself due to low premium? Can the quotation go through in the first place? Plan: Prulink One Premium: 260 per month Age:54 Gender: female occupation: businessman Completely healthy Benefits as below: Sum assured: 10K Critical illness: 50K (i think is crisis shield plus) pruflexi med: R&B 100/day, annual 50k, lifetime 1mil accident med 2k (i think is pruacci med) Premium waiver If a client has money challenge and want to surrender her policy as above, what will you advise her? You know her the best here. |
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May 24 2015, 03:56 PM
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QUOTE(frosteer @ May 23 2015, 12:59 PM) Her current premium is rm260 monthly I share the same opinion as roystevenung. The only way I can think of is to have her get standalone med card, so at least, she still has medical protection. And for her age now she can get the med card with around 114 monthly The cons is the premium raise sharply after age 70. Now she paying 260 monthly, if she convert to standalone then the monthly amount at age 71-75 is around 475 monthly, while 76-79 is around 712 monthly. But I have one question here, coz I see her current policy,the med card only cover until age 70 only. Wat is the cost if she wants to increase it to age 80? It's pruflexi med. Identify the objective and focus on it. Atm, the issue is 1. budget 2. keeping her h&s policy. Instead of a new policy, trim the current policy due to budget concerns. Side note: at her age and trying to squeeze from RM260/mo premium, the problem may be much more than just "no money". Try to probe deeper. |
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May 26 2015, 02:48 PM
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QUOTE(MNet @ May 24 2015, 08:47 PM) Question, for pru ILP plan, if I pay in advance, the advance payment(let say 6 month advance payment) will be park under I am not a Prudential agent. a. excess payment b. buy the unit trust Which is the way? However, my understanding is this: The advance payment will be treated as an ad-hoc top-up to your ILP plan. To answer your question, b. buy the unit trust is the answer. For as long as your funds can sustain the COI, you're good. However, it is best to pay the premiums regularly and on-time. |
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May 28 2015, 09:02 AM
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QUOTE(vincent7474 @ May 27 2015, 11:31 PM) can I transfer my company insurance to my personal insurance after I resign? as in policy continuity... It depends on your policy. In the older Group HS policies, some do offer this feature. But bear in mind, such group policies are ancient, and possibly discontinued. This is due to HR demands for ever-lower premiums as a measure to reduce operating costs. Talk to your HR about your Group HS program, and ask if this feature is an option for you. Then you'll be in a better informed position to decide. |
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Jun 3 2015, 11:24 AM
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QUOTE(DjK @ Jun 2 2015, 10:14 AM) Hi guys, The hardcopy of your policy is a contract between you and GE. Everything that should be or should not be, would be clearly spelled out in the policy. I have recently applied for an insurance with investment link package from GE. I would like to know what other info am i entitled after my application has been accepted? i have recently received a call from GE surveyer...she had mentioned that I could get something like a "non-disclosure record" and some other things that I am not aware of. Would like to know are there any other documents that I should be aware of other than the hardcopy of my policy. Thank you. I know it's tedious to read it, but I would encourage you to do exactly that. Should you need any further clarification on the policy wordings, you may refer back to your agent. |
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Jun 3 2015, 11:25 AM
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QUOTE(LaVilla @ Jun 1 2015, 08:33 PM) My dad insisted me to write a letter to the Insurance company to appeal for the betterment . Have an accident a month ago and the insurance only pay back Rm 800+ of personal claim and did not pay back the betterment. You should refer back to your agent. I knew it sound stupid but I have been insisted by my dad so I got no choice but to do it. So any appeal letter sample for me to refer on? He/she would be the best person to help you. |
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Jun 10 2015, 02:50 AM
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QUOTE(HolySatan @ Jun 10 2015, 01:13 AM) Tidak. Etiqa, Prudential, AIA, Great Eastern, etc, cumalah syarikat-syarikat insuran yang terdapat di Malaysia. Macam Maybank, Public Bank, OCBC Bank menyediakan perkhidmatan yang sama, cuma nama syarikatnya lain. Takaful adalah produk insurans yang mematuhi hukum Syariah. Ini adalah inisiatif kerajaan dalam bidang kewangan agar rakan-rakan kita yang beragama Islam lebih terbuka kepada perkhidmatan kewangan yang bermanfaat kepada individu-individu, dan pada masa yang sama tidak payah kelam-kabut tertanya-tanya adakah pahala terganggu sebab terbabit dalam aktiviti kewangan yang mengandungi unsur riba. Saya wakil berlesen daripada syarikat AIA Public Takaful. Kalo berminat, bolehlah hubungi saya terus di 012-2003291. Harap penjelasan saya terjawab persoalan tuan/puan. |
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QUOTE(HolySatan @ Jun 10 2015, 04:44 PM) oo.. so insuran & takaful tu benda sama ke.. beza antara islamic & conventional.. medical card lain dengan insuran hayat.tapi medical card dengan insuran x sama ke? Medical card cover bil-bil hospital. insuran hayat takaful selain menjaga kewangan kita, juga mengandungi unsur hibah yang membolehkan kita mengagihkan aset-aset kita utk ditinggalkan kepada ahli keluarga kita, sebab bukannya semua orang kaya-raya. Pengagihan aset berasaskan Faraid kadang kala mengakibatkan rasa serba-salah antara ahli keluarga sendiri. Unsur Hibah membolehkan kita menunaikan tanggungjawab kita utk mengagihkan aset kita mengikut Faraid, pada masa yang sama, ada juga sedikit sebanyak yang boleh ditambahkan kepada sesiapa shj, terutamanya yang di kalangan kita yang beristeri lebih drpd satu. |
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QUOTE(MC Mong @ Jun 14 2015, 10:17 AM) Dear all sifus, I'm interested in getting a life insurance to ensure my family will receive a sum of cash by the time i passed away. All insurance provider have roughly the same life insurance policies. Need advice on which insurance provider hav a better life insurance policy? And I prefer those with guaranteed surrender cash value even the premium slightly higher. Any sifu can giv some suggestion as once purchase i have to serve premium forver. Thanks in advance All of them have products which will give you guaranteed surrender cash value. Maybe buy from an agent who is younger than you? For the purpose of the agent still being around to serve the cheque to your nominee. |
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QUOTE(vez @ Jun 15 2015, 08:41 PM) i am going to surrender my 9 years insurance policy, due to i have purchase a new one 6 months ago... Why would you surrender a policy just to buy a new one? my long long time ago agent told me just bring my policy to AIA and do the surrender process, is it that simple? i just have some doubt it will be so easy lol Thanks. I doubt that it is a well-thought out decision to make. |
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