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TSShangar96
post Dec 2 2013, 09:36 PM

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QUOTE(silasya77 @ Dec 2 2013, 09:08 PM)
Just keep it consistent if it's working for you. I'm 17 too and I have no right to talk about exercise routines and all as I've only been sticking to the basic 5x5s but I've noticed I've gained the most in the year I stuck to the same routine and kept my workouts consistent, that of which I'm still doing.

SPM over brah. Time to get swole.  rclxm9.gif
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Nice! Another 17 year old buddy. So how much weight did you gain since you've started? Can I know your height and weight please? Also, are you taking any protein shakes/supplements?
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post Dec 2 2013, 09:37 PM

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QUOTE(fas29 @ Dec 1 2013, 07:06 PM)
1. Lift heavy to get big

2. Eat big to get big

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Eat big, as in eat clean as well? If so, can I know the replacement for beef? I can't take beef due to religious views.
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post Dec 2 2013, 09:38 PM

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QUOTE(nivlanauk @ Nov 30 2013, 04:55 PM)
I agree with stronglifts 5x5.
You must be very skinny @ 185cm,68kg. Just eat whatever you want.
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I'm worried that I might gain fat by eating whatever I want, or am I wrong?
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post Dec 3 2013, 01:47 AM

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QUOTE(Shangar96 @ Dec 2 2013, 10:37 PM)
Eat big, as in eat clean as well? If so, can I know the replacement for beef? I can't take beef due to religious views.
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Yes, clean. Basically, I just eat anything I want except junk food and fast foods.

Boneless chicken breast
Boneless turkey breast
Cottage cheese
Tuna and most other types of fish (Salmon, Tilapia, Mahi Mahi, Cod, Halibut, Shrimp)
Eggs (especially whites)
Low fat cheese or no fat cheese
Whey protein
Milk protein isolate
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post Dec 3 2013, 09:06 AM

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QUOTE(Shangar96 @ Dec 2 2013, 09:37 PM)
Eat big, as in eat clean as well? If so, can I know the replacement for beef? I can't take beef due to religious views.
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Chicken breast. Marinate them, have a slice or two of cheese, put them on thechicken. Put them in the oven. Melted cheese chicken breast rclxms.gif serve with some rice and vegetable of your choice. You can throw in some eggs if you want. Delicious and nutritious.
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post Dec 3 2013, 11:18 AM

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QUOTE(Shangar96 @ Dec 2 2013, 09:34 PM)
And your food intake, are you eating clean?
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QUOTE(Shangar96 @ Dec 2 2013, 09:37 PM)
Eat big, as in eat clean as well? If so, can I know the replacement for beef? I can't take beef due to religious views.
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Sad to say, but not entirely clean. Just to let you know that I too, don't take beef. I'll only ingest chicken breast, fish and mutton. I'm also an avid fan of red meat(mutton), but gonna ensure that I don't rely on them too much, or it'll be detrimental for my health. That is why I opt for eating around 3 to 4 hard boiled-eggs daily to compensate my lack for protein.
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post Dec 3 2013, 11:22 AM

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QUOTE(GameFr3ak @ Dec 3 2013, 09:06 AM)
Chicken breast. Marinate them, have a slice or two of cheese, put them on thechicken. Put them in the oven. Melted cheese chicken breast  rclxms.gif serve with some rice and vegetable of your choice. You can throw in some eggs if you want. Delicious and nutritious.
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Wow drool.gif Now that is one appetising and healthy meal, kinda sound like kenny rogers roasters, but way more cheaper, and it's home-made too. Thanks for sharing this piece of advice,all hands down to that recipe notworthy.gif
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post Dec 3 2013, 11:51 AM

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QUOTE(RED-HAIR-SHANKS @ Dec 3 2013, 11:22 AM)
Wow drool.gif Now that is one appetising and healthy meal, kinda sound like kenny rogers roasters, but way more cheaper, and it's home-made too. Thanks for sharing this piece of advice,all hands down to that recipe notworthy.gif
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Ya... clean food doesn't have to be bland and tasteless. rclxms.gif
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post Dec 3 2013, 12:34 PM

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QUOTE(Shangar96 @ Nov 29 2013, 04:59 PM)
Hi, I am 185cm tall and 68kg and 17 years old. I want to gain lean mass and muscle. What are the exercises I need to do? Do I need to train everyday? What are the food intake I should take? What are the supplements would you recommend for a skinny beginner? . I took Serious Mass before and I'm looking into serious heavy exercises starting December. Do I need protein shakes or more supps? Thanks. It would really help me. I looked into bodybuilding.com forums, and they have like 100 articles . I don't know which one is true and which one to follow. Its overwhelming.
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What's the difference of the two bolded words?
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post Dec 3 2013, 12:45 PM

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QUOTE(alien9 @ Dec 3 2013, 12:34 PM)
What's the difference of the two bolded words?
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I reckon what TS intended to point out was that he wanted to have a lean body weight together with a muscular abs.
Lean body weight might refer to thin, or body mass that contains little fat. While on the other hand, a fully muscular body refers to the presence of pure muscle in ones body, not including the fat. Try to juxtapose an ordinary fat guy with a muscular guy, you'll see the obvious difference between the two.

These are just my two cents, not too sure if they're entirely correct hmm.gif
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post Dec 3 2013, 02:44 PM

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QUOTE(Shangar96 @ Dec 2 2013, 09:36 PM)
Nice! Another 17 year old buddy. So how much weight did you gain since you've started? Can I know your height and weight please? Also, are you taking any protein shakes/supplements?
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I've always been a fat bloke so I've managed to stay around 80 kg as long as I've remembered. Never fluctuated too much weight wise, but I have been losing fat appearance wise and since I started 5x5 while the progress is slow, looking back it was definitely more than I thought.

I'm around 5 foot 8 inches. Not sure how much precisely since I havent measured in a while. biggrin.gif

Just taking Whey at the moment. Recently finished my stack of creatine so I'm on an off cycle for a couple of weeks. Looking to get back on it since I've had remarkable results in the gym when taking it. Didn't notice at first due to the lack of sleep for SPM during my creatine cycle, so I didnt get much progress. Once I stopped however, I was surprised at how weak and worn i was from all the sleepless nights. I couldn't even do one complete set with my current work weight. I've realized how much creatine has done for me in terms of performance.

Now that SPM's over I'm really looking forward to get proper rest and go on creatine again to see how much benefits I can really get in optimum conditions.

Since you're presumably just starting out, something I've learned is to be patient and understand how long it will take to get to where you want to be. Results won't come in a week. Or three months. Or even a year depending on your goals. Just stick with it and one day you'll look back and see how far you've come. thumbup.gif

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post Dec 3 2013, 05:16 PM

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QUOTE(fas29 @ Dec 3 2013, 01:47 AM)
Yes, clean. Basically, I just eat anything I want except junk food and fast foods.

Boneless chicken breast
Boneless turkey breast
Cottage cheese
Tuna and most other types of fish (Salmon, Tilapia, Mahi Mahi, Cod, Halibut, Shrimp)
Eggs (especially whites)
Low fat cheese or no fat cheese
Whey protein
Milk protein isolate
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Thank you very much. Any tips on how many eggs I should eat everyday? I'm really confused with the breakfast, should I eat more for breakfast or equally for all meals?
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post Dec 3 2013, 05:17 PM

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QUOTE(GameFr3ak @ Dec 3 2013, 09:06 AM)
Chicken breast. Marinate them, have a slice or two of cheese, put them on thechicken. Put them in the oven. Melted cheese chicken breast  rclxms.gif serve with some rice and vegetable of your choice. You can throw in some eggs if you want. Delicious and nutritious.
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Damn, that sure sounds delicious. thumbup.gif Speaking of rice, is it true that white rice isn't good for health? Many of my seniors suggested that I should take brown rice. I don't really mind the taste, as long as I see the result.
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post Dec 3 2013, 05:19 PM

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QUOTE(RED-HAIR-SHANKS @ Dec 3 2013, 11:18 AM)
Sad to say, but not entirely clean. Just to let you know that I too, don't take beef. I'll only ingest chicken breast, fish and mutton. I'm also an avid fan of red meat(mutton), but gonna ensure that I don't rely on them too much, or it'll be detrimental for my health. That is why I opt for eating around 3 to 4 hard boiled-eggs daily to compensate my lack for protein.
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I love mutton too! Especially grilled ones. tongue.gif Anyway, how much protein is 3-4 hard boiled eggs? I'm taking one or two only. rclxub.gif
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post Dec 3 2013, 05:22 PM

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QUOTE(silasya77 @ Dec 3 2013, 02:44 PM)
I've always been a fat bloke so I've managed to stay around 80 kg as long as I've remembered. Never fluctuated too much weight wise, but I have been losing fat appearance wise and since I started 5x5 while the progress is slow, looking back it was definitely more than I thought.

I'm around 5 foot 8 inches. Not sure how much precisely since I havent measured in a while.  biggrin.gif

Just taking Whey at the moment. Recently finished my stack of creatine so I'm on an off cycle for a couple of weeks. Looking to get back on it since I've had remarkable results in the gym when taking it. Didn't notice at first due to the lack of sleep for SPM during my creatine cycle, so I didnt get much progress. Once I stopped however, I was surprised at how weak and worn i was from all the sleepless nights. I couldn't even do one complete set with my current work weight. I've realized how much creatine has done for me in terms of performance.

Now that SPM's over I'm really looking forward to get proper rest and go on creatine again to see how much benefits I can really get in optimum conditions.

Since you're presumably just starting out, something I've learned is to be patient and understand how long it will take to get to where you want to be. Results won't come in a week. Or three months. Or even a year depending on your goals. Just stick with it and one day you'll look back and see how far you've come. thumbup.gif
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Thanks. So you're still doing 5x5? How long did it take for you to see the results? It took me 1.5 months to gain 6kg back in May. I've stopped since then because of SPM. Just starting again.
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post Dec 3 2013, 05:24 PM

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Also, can I know when and how much of salad should I take? I mean, post/pre workout? Breakfast/Lunch/Dinner? I love salad, since I've cut down on all junk foods. What kind of salads you guys like?
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post Dec 3 2013, 05:35 PM

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QUOTE(Shangar96 @ Dec 3 2013, 05:17 PM)
Damn, that sure sounds delicious.  thumbup.gif Speaking of rice, is it true that white rice isn't good for health? Many of my seniors suggested that I should take brown rice. I don't really mind the taste, as long as I see the result.
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The difference between white and brown rice is content fiber and vitamins minerals. Brown rice gets far more nutrients than white rice. But white rice itself is not really harmful at all. Brown rice does have more fiber and a lower glycemic index last time I checked. But, on both counts it's pretty negligible, especially in the context of a mixed meal with protein and fat (both will lower GI). I sometime use white rice to fill in the macros...



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post Dec 3 2013, 06:49 PM

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QUOTE(GameFr3ak @ Dec 3 2013, 05:35 PM)
The difference between white and brown rice is content fiber and vitamins minerals. Brown rice gets far more nutrients than white rice. But white rice itself is not really harmful at all. Brown rice does have more fiber and a lower glycemic index last time I checked. But, on both counts it's pretty negligible, especially in the context of a mixed meal with protein and fat (both will lower GI). I sometime use white rice to fill in the macros...
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To add on, brown rice is potentially 'more harmful' than white rice, as pesticides and soil contaminants such as arsenic tend to gather in the husk.

And it's not really fully understood how beneficial the additional vitamins and minerals can be. Some avenues suggest potential worsened absorption/availibility overall due to presence of 'anti-nutrients'.

Ideally, and personally, I'd eat organic unpolished white rice. For example, http://www.countryfarmorganics.com/product...tail.asp?id=784

But it's expensive. So just the regular white rice would do, in moderation.

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QUOTE(Shangar96 @ Dec 3 2013, 05:19 PM)
I love mutton too! Especially grilled ones. tongue.gif Anyway, how much protein is 3-4 hard boiled eggs? I'm taking one or two only.  rclxub.gif
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An egg(regardless whether it is boiled or raw) should contains approximately 6g of proteins. I eat 4 hard-boiled eggs daily, so that makes it around 24g of protein intake per day. I haven't add in milk(8g per cup), and other of my daily diet, so there's still more to go. Don't fret too much, an egg or two is already suffice for us, but if you think you can go beyond that, then why don't you give it a try. For some reasons, my dad told me that he too ate around 5 eggs per day in the past, but the only difference was that he ate all of them in the form of raw eggs, think you can handle that brows.gif
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QUOTE(Shangar96 @ Dec 3 2013, 05:24 PM)
Also, can I know when and how much of salad should I take? I mean, post/pre workout? Breakfast/Lunch/Dinner? I love salad, since I've cut down on all junk foods. What kind of salads you guys like?
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Good idea too smile.gif I seldom eat salad, so I guess it's time for me to hit the salads to the max. I fond the ones with variety of fruits, but the problem is, fruits can be quite expensive(depends on the quantity and the type of fruits that we're talking about). Just to let you know that salad mayonnaise too works fine for me, not to mention that it's tasty drool.gif

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