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Photography The Official Nikon Discussion Thread Ver.23, National Geography edition

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wkwong91
post Feb 24 2014, 12:16 PM

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Hi Nikon Users,

I having D90 now, i think of changing to D7000. Any advise?

Anyway to improve the low light performance on D90?

I know this question asked several times in this forum.
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post Feb 24 2014, 01:25 PM

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QUOTE(PF T.J. @ Feb 24 2014, 12:37 PM)
Personally I don't think the upgrade is significant enough from the D90 --> D7000... might be better to save more and jump to D610 instead later on  hmm.gif
Using flash is the best way to "improve" low light performance nod.gif
Some more the D90 has that wireless control of Nikon flashguns, pretty handy  thumbup.gif
I've learnt some basics on strobes while I was using my D90 + SB700  thumbup.gif
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Thank you bro for ur suggestion.
But sometime I just want to avoid from using flash and tripod if in indoor.
Seem D90 shows quite number of noise when at 1600 iso.
Sifu please teach, I am still newbie is low light photography. notworthy.gif
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post Feb 24 2014, 01:42 PM

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QUOTE(Everdying @ Feb 24 2014, 01:39 PM)
then time to buy f/1.4 or f/1.8 lenses tongue.gif
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I having f/1.8 and f/2.8. laugh.gif
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post Feb 24 2014, 01:56 PM

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QUOTE(Everdying @ Feb 24 2014, 01:48 PM)
so what do you shoot that you need to go iso1600?
but u should really buy a flash...remember quality vs quantity of light tongue.gif
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Like taking portrait at indoor with less lighting surround.
flash i also have already but i just try to avoid using it. sweat.gif
seem like need more training on flash from now on. laugh.gif
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post Feb 24 2014, 02:06 PM

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QUOTE(c010 @ Feb 24 2014, 01:58 PM)
you another option, get a FF body wink.gif
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QUOTE(shinchan^^ @ Feb 24 2014, 01:59 PM)
should have change to D700
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Currently is over my budget. sad.gif
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post Feb 24 2014, 02:47 PM

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QUOTE(f5calvin @ Feb 24 2014, 02:41 PM)
D7k low light performance is much better than d90. Almost 1stop I'd say. And if u need prime, 35 1.4 siggy is great. 50mm lens too tight for indoor
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That is why i still thinking whether to upgrade to D7k or not. icon_question.gif
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post Feb 24 2014, 02:58 PM

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QUOTE(QiAnG @ Feb 24 2014, 02:53 PM)
I think that 1 stop advantage not really worth it eh for the upgrade, rather than spending that money for a usable 1600-3200 iso pictures, I think I'd rather grab a flash at a lesser price and go below those iso settings. then save up for full frame, you'll still yearn for better iso performance even after you upgrade to d7000 i think..

but then also your choice la, I sucks in using flash and even though I have a flash, still despise using them for people shots (hate the outcome), only use them for my macros  cry.gif
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I have the flash and also sucks in using flash for portrait. Cant get the outcome that I want too.

Maybe has to learn more and more in using flash from now oh. sad.gif
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post Feb 24 2014, 04:19 PM

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QUOTE(PF T.J. @ Feb 24 2014, 04:10 PM)
Not sure haha laugh.gif
He seemed very confident to keep his promise  laugh.gif
Haha, I know what you mean mate! Sometimes its a bit embarrassing to bring out a flash to take photos indoors, especially during meals laugh.gif The amount of disapproving looks is really...  shakehead.gif

Under very dim conditions, this is what I usually do:
1. Use torchlight to light up the face for easier focusing, lock focus, turn off torchlight, then take photo. The posture of your hands is important so as to avoid shakes. Sometimes I use objects as support so that can take photos even at 1/30 without VR (24-70 F2.8)

2. If you are sitting beside a wall. Use handphone torchlight on the wall, the reflecting light will be less harsh then directly pointing towards the subject.

3. If its really so damn dark and you don't have anything to reflect your torchlight/flash, then you can try artistic shots where only a few regions of the face is exposed i.e. strobes, quite fun laugh.gif After all, you don't always have to properly exposed everything, all the time~

Just some of my noob experiences lol... I'm never very good at portraits, still learning  laugh.gif
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Yes Bro, u got what i mean. biggrin.gif

Thanks for the tips. rclxms.gif
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post Feb 27 2014, 10:26 AM

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QUOTE(stevenkoh @ Feb 24 2014, 05:10 PM)
Flash requires alot of technique and understanding of light. Personally, playing with flash is alot harder (and costly) than playing with available lighting.

A small tip, you could try the off-camera flash as your D90 has the commander function and fiddle with the power and direction of flash (provided you flash support i-TTL or remote trigger).

I would suggest you could read up on flash technique if you are into flash photography. Sorry I couldn't recommend any site or person as most of my guidelines are of trail and error (also I am still a 'padawan'  smile.gif ).
Regarding you upgrade options, it would be a personal preference. Some people like the difference between the D90 and D7000, although on paper is otherwise (my friend bought a D90, compared to my D7000 photos, sold his D90 and gotten D7000 and love it). However like others have said, the cost for the differences is minimal at best, and there are much better choice with a little more cost.
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post Mar 10 2014, 11:54 AM

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QUOTE(PF T.J. @ Mar 10 2014, 11:00 AM)
You mentioned dinner in your earlier post? As in wedding dinner or normal dining?
I don't think there's really the need to get a flashgun just for shooting in dining areas with dim lights hmm.gif
Can invest in a torchlight with soft light instead, much cheaper and not that embarrassing to use haha  laugh.gif
Seen quite a number of wedding photographers use torchlights instead of flashguns nowadays. Quite understandable since they are much easier to use haha laugh.gif
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Torchlight > flashgun. tongue.gif
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post Mar 10 2014, 12:00 PM

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QUOTE(PF T.J. @ Mar 10 2014, 11:58 AM)
Well, its just my noob opinion la haha  laugh.gif
I've been playing around with my SB-700 for quite some time already, but I'm still not very good at guesstimations, and many a times the resulting photo will come out pretty bad  sad.gif

The diffusion will be much better with the umbrella, but that beats the whole point already haha  tongue.gif
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Then is time to UPGRADE ur SB700 to pasar malam torchlight. tongue.gif
p/s: just kidding la bro. biggrin.gif
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post Mar 10 2014, 01:24 PM

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Dear Sifu,
Need advise.
Should I change my 50mm f/1.8 to 35mm f/1.8 or just keep both of them?
Use for indoor and also portrait.
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post Mar 10 2014, 01:28 PM

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QUOTE(shawn2k4 @ Mar 10 2014, 01:26 PM)
@wkwong91 , i'm no sifu, but if you ask me, there's no harm in keeping them Prime Lens biggrin.gif

The 50mm f1.8 lens that you are having is it the D lens?
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But seem both of them I am not frequently in use. Btw, 35mm sharper than 50mm? hmm.gif

Yup. Is D lens. And I am using DX body.
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post Mar 10 2014, 01:42 PM

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QUOTE(shawn2k4 @ Mar 10 2014, 01:38 PM)
@wkwong i personally find G-type lenses produce better quality photo's (don't really understand the physics behind it) , but just from a cost comparison, there should be a reason why one costs so much more than the other and that reason to me (on top of the AF motor) is the Lens Quality.
(price quote Shashinki)
50mm f1.8D - MYR300+

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50mm f1.8G - MYR700+
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Thank for the feedback. Still thinking to get 35mm or not now. icon_question.gif
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post Mar 10 2014, 01:46 PM

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QUOTE(shawn2k4 @ Mar 10 2014, 01:44 PM)
The 35mm f1.8G is a good lens smile.gif if that's what you are worried. What are you current lens setup ? biggrin.gif
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Just have 50mm f/1.8D and tammy 17-50mm f/2.8. laugh.gif
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post Mar 10 2014, 02:31 PM

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QUOTE(Agito666 @ Mar 10 2014, 02:18 PM)
why you want get 35mm? because of f/1.8?  unsure.gif  whistling.gif
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Yup and the sharpness. sweat.gif
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post Mar 10 2014, 02:41 PM

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QUOTE(PF T.J. @ Mar 10 2014, 02:40 PM)
But you already have the Tammy?  laugh.gif
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Ya lo. Hand itchy want to try 35mm. 50mm seem not that sharp. sad.gif
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post Mar 10 2014, 02:50 PM

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QUOTE(PF T.J. @ Mar 10 2014, 02:46 PM)
That's my proposal ring haha  tongue.gif
Most lenses are not that sharp when open widest hmm.gif
Well, perhaps its best that you try it out 1st and see whether you like it or not~  thumbup.gif
Imho, 35mm is a nice focal length for a DX camera, but since you already have a Tammy, its a bit overlapping already  hmm.gif
And most of the time portraits are taken outside too, where the Tammy will work superbly; whereas the 50mm will also give you that extra bokeh when you need it  hmm.gif
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When want to marry? brows.gif

Maybe I should borrow my friend's 35mm first before I decide to buy it or not. laugh.gif
Any sharp lens within 1k? hmm.gif
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post Mar 10 2014, 03:08 PM

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QUOTE(Andy214 @ Mar 10 2014, 03:04 PM)
Make sure the focus is correct. At widest aperture, the DOF can be very shallow especially if you're at closer focusing distance.
Even when your focus is lock-on, your focus may run if you "moved" or there is back-focus/front-focus issue.
To test, out your camera on tripod and capture. You can compare with Live View Focus result to confirm any back/front focus issue, and don't shoot too close to your subject.
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Thanks for your inputs. notworthy.gif
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post Mar 10 2014, 03:19 PM

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QUOTE(piscesguy @ Mar 10 2014, 03:10 PM)
50mm 1.8G is very sharp wide open. smile.gif

1. Off focus- Not enough light to focus correctly.
2. Hand shake - Shuttle speed is too slow.

Don't blame the lens if cannot get sharp images, you need to improve your skill 1st. whistling.gif
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I din't blame that 50mm is not sharp. sweat.gif
I just wonder is it 35mm sharper than 50mm or not only. No other mean.

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