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post Nov 27 2013, 03:52 PM, updated 13y ago

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Ahli Dewan Rakyat hari ini gelak apabila Timbalan Menteri di Jabatan Perdana Menteri Datuk Razali Ibrahim berkata tidak semua perkara boleh diselesaikan dengan menggunakan logik. Beliau berkata demikian ketika merujuk soalan Lim Lip Eng (DAP - Segambut) yang ingin tahu mengapa kerajaan enggan mewujudkan institusi penyiasat bebas atau 'ombudsman' bagi membolehkan orang ramai melaporkan pelbagai masalah termasuk salah laku atau salah guna kuasa.

LOGIK... JANGAN TAK GUNA...
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QUOTE(pcboss00 @ Nov 27 2013, 04:54 PM)
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pakai kepala lutut.
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u cuba bincang dengan orang kampung demi pembangunan negara. tengok logik mana yang diorang pakai...

anyway.... menteri tak boleh la kata ini maciam...
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QUOTE(xPC12x @ Nov 27 2013, 03:56 PM)
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jangan pakai logic. pakai main tembak cam ujian objective
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"tak boleh pakai logic"

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QUOTE(ZeroSOFInfinity @ Nov 27 2013, 03:52 PM)


Ahli Dewan Rakyat hari ini gelak apabila Timbalan Menteri di Jabatan Perdana Menteri Datuk Razali Ibrahim berkata tidak semua perkara boleh diselesaikan dengan menggunakan logik. Beliau berkata demikian ketika merujuk soalan Lim Lip Eng (DAP - Segambut) yang ingin tahu mengapa kerajaan enggan mewujudkan institusi penyiasat bebas atau 'ombudsman' bagi membolehkan orang ramai melaporkan pelbagai masalah termasuk salah laku atau salah guna kuasa.

LOGIK... JANGAN TAK GUNA...
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in gst: apply la.all countries pakai.only brunei and myanmar dont

on ombudsman: no need la.singapore pon tak pakai

why dont they say the same on gst?

no need gst la.brunei pun tak pakai

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kalau xnak guna logic nak guna apa lagi?

kepala lutut kau ke?
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QUOTE(ZeroSOFInfinity @ Nov 27 2013, 03:52 PM)


Ahli Dewan Rakyat hari ini gelak apabila Timbalan Menteri di Jabatan Perdana Menteri Datuk Razali Ibrahim berkata tidak semua perkara boleh diselesaikan dengan menggunakan logik. Beliau berkata demikian ketika merujuk soalan Lim Lip Eng (DAP - Segambut) yang ingin tahu mengapa kerajaan enggan mewujudkan institusi penyiasat bebas atau 'ombudsman' bagi membolehkan orang ramai melaporkan pelbagai masalah termasuk salah laku atau salah guna kuasa.

LOGIK... JANGAN TAK GUNA...
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in gst: apply la.all countries pakai.only brunei and myanmar dont

on ombudsman: no need la.singapore pon tak pakai

why dont they say the same on gst?

no need gst la.brunei pun tak pakai

adui doh.gif

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who de fark voted this stupid crab as a minister ? talk kok also don't know.

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I feel a lot stupider after watching him speak.
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All ministers should attend courses on public speaking, day by day you can hear crap coming out of their mouths.
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syukur saya masih ada logik
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QUOTE(Songlap @ Nov 27 2013, 04:12 PM)
ps3 fanboy: ye, saya pun takde logik
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Let me rephrase for you. He won't type like that.

PS3 :
rakyat harus memahami tekanan yang dialami oleh mereka. Jikalau selalu guna logik, ini akan lagi membebankan mereka
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Logik bukan budaya kita.
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QUOTE(neoexcaliber @ Nov 27 2013, 04:18 PM)
Logik bukan budaya kita.
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jgn persoal logik saya
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he is smart...
because he knows it will be a "checkmate" move when people talk about religion vs logic..
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QUOTE(ShinG3e @ Nov 27 2013, 04:20 PM)
jgn persoal logik saya
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QUOTE(genjo @ Nov 27 2013, 06:15 PM)
Let me rephrase for you. He won't type like that.

PS3 :
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QUOTE(limfreelance @ Nov 27 2013, 04:27 PM)
ini ketentuan > all logic
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kalau tak pakai logik - shahidan cium tangan, PS3Fanboy cium apa?
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QUOTE(DarkAeon @ Nov 27 2013, 04:35 PM)
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kalau tak pakai logik - shahidan cium tangan, PS3Fanboy cium apa?
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pipu with brain like this can be timbalan menteri memanglah tak pakai logik
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Lolz.. He should not have said "Tak semua perkara pakai logik", other than that I think his answer ok wat. hmm.gif

I think it is a BN politician tradition to come out with full retard statement once in a while so people know them. Kenot let KATAK take all the limelight lah woi. nod.gif

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QUOTE(faizeq @ Nov 27 2013, 05:02 PM)
Biasalah dah ugama sendiri tak pakai logic mestilah dia amalkan illogical thinking....
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This is the type of minister we pay more than 100k annually?
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Jangan persoal, tak semua perkara boleh pakai logik, endless possibilities
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he was making a reference to Lim Lip Eng's question "kenapa tak guna logik yang sama dengan GST"

which he answered..

"Tak semua perkara pakai logik (yang sama)"

kesian he was trying to accommodate for Lim Lip Eng's poor BM but kena kutuk for his trouble

QUOTE(amon_meiz @ Nov 27 2013, 04:06 PM)
in gst: apply la.all countries pakai.only brunei and myanmar dont

on ombudsman: no need la.singapore pon tak pakai

why dont they say the same on gst?

no need gst la.brunei pun tak pakai

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because got http://www.pcb.gov.my/bm already. and the fella said gonna release the report for MPs next year for scrutiny.
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QUOTE(coolsarawak @ Nov 27 2013, 05:35 PM)
he was making a reference to Lim Lip Eng's question "kenapa tak guna logik yang sama dengan GST"

which he answered..

"Tak semua perkara pakai logik (yang sama)"

kesian he was trying to accommodate for Lim Lip Eng's poor BM but kena kutuk for his trouble
because got http://www.pcb.gov.my/bm already. and the fella said gonna release the report for MPs next year for scrutiny.
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is pcb the same thing as ombudsman?
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QUOTE(amon_meiz @ Nov 27 2013, 05:40 PM)
is pcb the same thing as ombudsman?
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National Ombudsman in Netherland

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Ombudsman

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The National Ombudsman (in Dutch: Nationale Ombudsman) is a Dutch political office. The National Ombudsman deals with citizens' complaints against improper conduct of government and is appointed by cabinet on the advice of the House of Representatives (Tweede Kamer).
Biro Pengaduam Awam (PCB)

http://ms.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biro_Pengaduan_Awam

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Matlamat Biro Pengaduan Awam

    Untuk mengalakkan dan memberi kemudahan kepada rakyat yang tidak puas hati dengan sebarang salah tadbir di kalangan jentera pentadbiran awam untuk mengadu dengan penuh yakin.
    Untuk bekerjasama dengan ketua-ketua jabatan dalam menangani aduan orang ramai.
    Untuk menyiasat aduan dan mengemukakan hasil siasatan serta perakuan kepada Jawatankuasa Tetap Pengaduan Awam (JKTPA) untuk pertimbangan dan keputusan.
    Untuk melakukan "follow-up" dan "follow-through" semua keputusan yang dibuat oleh JKTPA.
    Untuk mengemukakan kepada ketua jabatan berkenaan laporan suku tahun tentang penerimaan aduan dan kedudukan tindakan pentadbiran yang telah diambil terhadap aduan.
    Untuk menerbitkan laporan tahunan berkenaan aduan awam.
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National Ombudsman in Netherland

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Ombudsman
Biro Pengaduam Awam (PCB)

http://ms.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biro_Pengaduan_Awam
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QUOTE(coolsarawak @ Nov 27 2013, 05:35 PM)
he was making a reference to Lim Lip Eng's question "kenapa tak guna logik yang sama dengan GST"

which he answered..

"Tak semua perkara pakai logik (yang sama)"

kesian he was trying to accommodate for Lim Lip Eng's poor BM but kena kutuk for his trouble
because got http://www.pcb.gov.my/bm already. and the fella said gonna release the report for MPs next year for scrutiny.
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Then he should have said "Tak semua perkara pakai logik yang sama/bersamaan dgn GST." Malay what, should know, if not what for we pay so high for him become Deputy Minister, might as well lowyat forumers do, can do for lesser pay some more.
If in my company, high level staff make presentation like this, big boss demote them liao. Even I cannot talk like that, mampus kena.

This is in addition to all the stupid remarks they make when answering, include those not highlighted, these are only the highlighted ones. This session, so far only KJ, once in a while Nazri can answer professionally without resorting to shouting, getting gelabah, or evading

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YB, bukan suma perkara boleh pakai logik. fukkin lel.
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QUOTE(eaglehelang @ Nov 27 2013, 06:02 PM)
Then he should have said "Tak semua perkara pakai logik yang sama/bersamaan dgn GST." Malay what, should know, if not what for we pay so high for him become Deputy Minister, might as well lowyat forumers do, can do for lesser pay some more.
If in my company, high level staff make presentation like this, big boss demote them liao. Even I cannot talk like that, mampus kena.

This is in addition to all the stupid remarks they make when answering, include those not highlighted, these are only the highlighted ones. This session, so far only KJ, once in a while Nazri can answer professionally without resorting to shouting, getting gelabah, or evading
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because malaysian politicians got no substance. they dun even haf substance to pump petrol let alone governing a country.

substance is what malaysia is lacking be it private or govt.
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QUOTE(StereoPony @ Nov 27 2013, 06:13 PM)
because malaysian politicians got no substance. they dun even haf substance to pump petrol let alone governing a country.

substance is what malaysia is lacking be it private or govt.
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I propose our /k tuan speaker replace, 'fazly....' , he is better. biggrin.gif Heck, with a bit practice, even a chinese like me from private sector can do better(for 20% of the pay). Just need to brush up on the BM

The DAP MP from Kepong, Dr Tan, is a smooth one when talking in BM, sindir habis2 the BN with a smile, didnt even raise his voice.

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QUOTE(eaglehelang @ Nov 27 2013, 06:02 PM)
Then he should have said "Tak semua perkara pakai logik yang sama/bersamaan dgn GST." Malay what, should know, if not what for we pay so high for him become Deputy Minister, might as well lowyat forumers do, can do for lesser pay some more.
If in my company, high level staff make presentation like this, big boss demote them liao. Even I cannot talk like that, mampus kena.

This is in addition to all the stupid remarks they make when answering, include those not highlighted, these are only the highlighted ones. This session, so far only KJ, once in a while Nazri can answer professionally without resorting to shouting, getting gelabah, or evading
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He was trying to accommodate the PR MP

If using proper BM, he would have said

"Kita tidak boleh menggunakan kaedah penilaian yang sama bagi setiap cadangan polisi"

He spoke like this for the rest of his reply

I dont blame him if he miss a few words trying to speaak like the PR MP who really has poor BM.

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lack of logical thinking isn't an unusual thing in malaysia.laugh.gif
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post Nov 27 2013, 07:08 PM

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What he actually want to say is "Jangan guna Otak".
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post Nov 27 2013, 07:13 PM

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QUOTE(coolsarawak @ Nov 27 2013, 07:02 PM)
He was trying to accommodate the PR MP

If using proper BM, he would have said

"Kita tidak boleh menggunakan kaedah penilaian yang sama bagi setiap cadangan polisi"

He spoke like this for the rest of his reply

I dont blame him if he miss a few words trying to speaak like the PR MP who really has poor BM.
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So what he meant was not everything have to use logic?
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post Nov 27 2013, 07:26 PM

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QUOTE(ZeroSOFInfinity @ Nov 27 2013, 07:32 PM)
Ada lagi satu. Tapi kasihannya, tiada orang peduli dia.
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mana mana?? unsure.gif
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post Nov 27 2013, 07:47 PM

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i like this deputy minister.
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post Nov 27 2013, 07:47 PM

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QUOTE(Hooidcaster @ Nov 27 2013, 07:26 PM)
mana mana??  unsure.gif
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Page 2 or 3.... his /K/ name is "Katak Robot". (translation).
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post Nov 27 2013, 08:01 PM

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Page 2 or 3.... his /K/ name is "Katak Robot". (translation).
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post Nov 27 2013, 08:06 PM

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post Nov 27 2013, 08:22 PM

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QUOTE(zeroonetwo @ Nov 27 2013, 07:13 PM)
So what he meant was not everything have to use logic?
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He meant not all policy need to be evaluated based on number of countries implementing it (e.g. Many countries implement GST, hence, Malaysia should to).

100 countries implement ombudsman, doesn't mean Malaysia has to so too. Esp when Malaysia already has an equivalent system in BPA.

National Ombudsman in Netherland

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Ombudsman

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The National Ombudsman (in Dutch: Nationale Ombudsman) is a Dutch political office. The National Ombudsman deals with citizens' complaints against improper conduct of government and is appointed by cabinet on the advice of the House of Representatives (Tweede Kamer).
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Matlamat Biro Pengaduan Awam

    Untuk mengalakkan dan memberi kemudahan kepada rakyat yang tidak puas hati dengan sebarang salah tadbir di kalangan jentera pentadbiran awam untuk mengadu dengan penuh yakin.
    Untuk bekerjasama dengan ketua-ketua jabatan dalam menangani aduan orang ramai.
    Untuk menyiasat aduan dan mengemukakan hasil siasatan serta perakuan kepada Jawatankuasa Tetap Pengaduan Awam (JKTPA) untuk pertimbangan dan keputusan.
    Untuk melakukan "follow-up" dan "follow-through" semua keputusan yang dibuat oleh JKTPA.
    Untuk mengemukakan kepada ketua jabatan berkenaan laporan suku tahun tentang penerimaan aduan dan kedudukan tindakan pentadbiran yang telah diambil terhadap aduan.
    Untuk menerbitkan laporan tahunan berkenaan aduan awam.
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post Nov 27 2013, 08:23 PM

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Aside from a few missing words in his first sentence, the first half of his argument actually makes sense from a logical standpoint. "If you wanna compare with Myanmar, Brunei, why not compare with Singapore as well? All of them have GST but Singapore doesn't have the Ombudsman" laugh.gif

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post Nov 27 2013, 08:27 PM

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Terima kasih 47% kerana memberi kita timbalan menteri yang bijaksana. Majulah bangsa dan negara di bawah pimpinan beliau dan rakan2nya yang se-bijak dengan nya.
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post Nov 27 2013, 08:34 PM

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dunia nih tak payah logik....semua main bantai jer....patutla BN semua buat keputusan mcm bodo..semua tarak otak x pakai logik rupanya haha
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QUOTE(coolsarawak @ Nov 27 2013, 07:02 PM)
He was trying to accommodate the PR MP

If using proper BM, he would have said

"Kita tidak boleh menggunakan kaedah penilaian yang sama bagi setiap cadangan polisi"

He spoke like this for the rest of his reply

I dont blame him if he miss a few words trying to speaak like the PR MP who really has poor BM.
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Macai. Keep spinning la

Macai.
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post Nov 27 2013, 08:47 PM

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QUOTE(flyf @ Nov 27 2013, 08:43 PM)
Macai. Keep spinning la

Macai.
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if 'spinning' is explaining what he actually said, then better 'spinning'. smile.gif

This post has been edited by coolsarawak: Nov 27 2013, 08:48 PM
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post Nov 27 2013, 08:59 PM

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lol, irregardless what he meant, the way he put it is funny la, tersilap kata & became a laughing stock? deal with it.

lettew kalau tak ada logic, kita bina logic!
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post Nov 27 2013, 09:17 PM

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Kalau tak ada Logik, Kita pakai Magik!
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post Nov 27 2013, 10:47 PM

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post Nov 27 2013, 11:01 PM

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salah ckp tu..tp agak sengal la..haha..

DAP punya wakil pun aiyooo bm hancuss!!
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post Nov 27 2013, 11:53 PM

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suka pakai logic, tak suka pakai magic
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post Nov 28 2013, 12:08 AM

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nothing wrong wit his statement
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post Nov 28 2013, 10:34 AM

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gaji menteri naik double tak pakai logik juga whistling.gif
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setahu saya memang tak semua pakai logik, bila ada burger sedap depan mata, lapar tak lapar, ada makanan, makan jer lahhhhhhh yum yum yum dapnyerr
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logic what? in parliament use those AND, OR, NOT, XOR, XNOT ?? this logic huh? haha
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