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> Timbalan Menteri: "Tak semua perkara pakai logik", .... semua dalam Dewan ketawa besar

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post Nov 27 2013, 05:35 PM

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he was making a reference to Lim Lip Eng's question "kenapa tak guna logik yang sama dengan GST"

which he answered..

"Tak semua perkara pakai logik (yang sama)"

kesian he was trying to accommodate for Lim Lip Eng's poor BM but kena kutuk for his trouble

QUOTE(amon_meiz @ Nov 27 2013, 04:06 PM)
in gst: apply la.all countries pakai.only brunei and myanmar dont

on ombudsman: no need la.singapore pon tak pakai

why dont they say the same on gst?

no need gst la.brunei pun tak pakai

adui doh.gif
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because got http://www.pcb.gov.my/bm already. and the fella said gonna release the report for MPs next year for scrutiny.
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post Nov 27 2013, 05:47 PM

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QUOTE(amon_meiz @ Nov 27 2013, 05:40 PM)
is pcb the same thing as ombudsman?
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National Ombudsman in Netherland

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Ombudsman

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The National Ombudsman (in Dutch: Nationale Ombudsman) is a Dutch political office. The National Ombudsman deals with citizens' complaints against improper conduct of government and is appointed by cabinet on the advice of the House of Representatives (Tweede Kamer).
Biro Pengaduam Awam (PCB)

http://ms.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biro_Pengaduan_Awam

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Matlamat Biro Pengaduan Awam

    Untuk mengalakkan dan memberi kemudahan kepada rakyat yang tidak puas hati dengan sebarang salah tadbir di kalangan jentera pentadbiran awam untuk mengadu dengan penuh yakin.
    Untuk bekerjasama dengan ketua-ketua jabatan dalam menangani aduan orang ramai.
    Untuk menyiasat aduan dan mengemukakan hasil siasatan serta perakuan kepada Jawatankuasa Tetap Pengaduan Awam (JKTPA) untuk pertimbangan dan keputusan.
    Untuk melakukan "follow-up" dan "follow-through" semua keputusan yang dibuat oleh JKTPA.
    Untuk mengemukakan kepada ketua jabatan berkenaan laporan suku tahun tentang penerimaan aduan dan kedudukan tindakan pentadbiran yang telah diambil terhadap aduan.
    Untuk menerbitkan laporan tahunan berkenaan aduan awam.
SUScoolsarawak
post Nov 27 2013, 07:02 PM

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QUOTE(eaglehelang @ Nov 27 2013, 06:02 PM)
Then he should have said "Tak semua perkara pakai logik yang sama/bersamaan dgn GST." Malay what, should know, if not what for we pay so high for him become Deputy Minister, might as well lowyat forumers do, can do for lesser pay some more.
If in my company, high level staff make presentation like this, big boss demote them liao. Even I cannot talk like that, mampus kena.

This is in addition to all the stupid remarks they make when answering, include those not highlighted, these are only the highlighted ones. This session, so far only KJ, once in a while Nazri can answer professionally without resorting to shouting, getting gelabah, or evading
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He was trying to accommodate the PR MP

If using proper BM, he would have said

"Kita tidak boleh menggunakan kaedah penilaian yang sama bagi setiap cadangan polisi"

He spoke like this for the rest of his reply

I dont blame him if he miss a few words trying to speaak like the PR MP who really has poor BM.

This post has been edited by coolsarawak: Nov 27 2013, 07:05 PM
SUScoolsarawak
post Nov 27 2013, 08:22 PM

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QUOTE(zeroonetwo @ Nov 27 2013, 07:13 PM)
So what he meant was not everything have to use logic?
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He meant not all policy need to be evaluated based on number of countries implementing it (e.g. Many countries implement GST, hence, Malaysia should to).

100 countries implement ombudsman, doesn't mean Malaysia has to so too. Esp when Malaysia already has an equivalent system in BPA.

National Ombudsman in Netherland

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Ombudsman

QUOTE
The National Ombudsman (in Dutch: Nationale Ombudsman) is a Dutch political office. The National Ombudsman deals with citizens' complaints against improper conduct of government and is appointed by cabinet on the advice of the House of Representatives (Tweede Kamer).
Biro Pengaduam Awam (PCB)

http://ms.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biro_Pengaduan_Awam

QUOTE
Matlamat Biro Pengaduan Awam

    Untuk mengalakkan dan memberi kemudahan kepada rakyat yang tidak puas hati dengan sebarang salah tadbir di kalangan jentera pentadbiran awam untuk mengadu dengan penuh yakin.
    Untuk bekerjasama dengan ketua-ketua jabatan dalam menangani aduan orang ramai.
    Untuk menyiasat aduan dan mengemukakan hasil siasatan serta perakuan kepada Jawatankuasa Tetap Pengaduan Awam (JKTPA) untuk pertimbangan dan keputusan.
    Untuk melakukan "follow-up" dan "follow-through" semua keputusan yang dibuat oleh JKTPA.
    Untuk mengemukakan kepada ketua jabatan berkenaan laporan suku tahun tentang penerimaan aduan dan kedudukan tindakan pentadbiran yang telah diambil terhadap aduan.
    Untuk menerbitkan laporan tahunan berkenaan aduan awam.
This post has been edited by coolsarawak: Nov 27 2013, 08:49 PM
SUScoolsarawak
post Nov 27 2013, 08:47 PM

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QUOTE(flyf @ Nov 27 2013, 08:43 PM)
Macai. Keep spinning la

Macai.
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if 'spinning' is explaining what he actually said, then better 'spinning'. smile.gif

This post has been edited by coolsarawak: Nov 27 2013, 08:48 PM
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