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 Sony Xperia Z / ZL Official V~10 Thread, JB 4.3 & KitKat 4.4 It`s Comming Yo

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post Nov 30 2013, 12:06 PM

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QUOTE(diaBoliQu3 @ Nov 30 2013, 10:44 AM)
So many people want to buy my faulty Note 2. doh.gif Why do you think Z not for me? LG G2 international how much? G2 win over Z1 in screen and the design, but  but Z1 win for built and the cam. Thin bezel and IPS sound really sweet, and cheaper than Z1 too right. Am I doing things right? Discussing other phone at the Z HQ? biggrin.gif

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Don`t worry we can discuss here no wrong about that.

I think Xperia Z is not suitable to you because the flaps is fragile and easily break if you accidentally pull it hard. The flaps connector white strips is only 2mm and its very thin. So if the flaps break you said before it will be a deal breaker for you.

If flaps already been a deal breaker for you then about the phone front and back glass. You said you will take care of your phone when you travel but not at home. So if you accidentally drop your phone even at home at a right angle correctly there goes your phone front and back glass it will break. The cost of replacement is RM 900 above it i am not mistaken. ( The glass on Xperia Z have few weak points and if it`s drop ngam ngam on the correct point the glass will break )

After that you said you like to play game when you bombing in toilet. So i considered you are an android gamer and you will download games on your Xperia Z phone for example. Do you know that for Xperia Z easily get hot when you play games on that phone. From there the heat will be a issue of loosing the phone water proof feature because when the excessive of heat on the phone it will make the back glass of the phone being lifted up and you will not notice and when you dunk your phone into the water then when the glass lifted up then the water will enter the phone. After that you will have a good trip to service center hehe.

Like me i just play normal Castle Clash my Xperia Z can reach 48 °C and it make me shock. Now even my phone back plate got lift up abit already. Next week i am going Service Center and repair it or see lucky go claim new.

I recommend Xperia ZL because those problem above wont happen and ZL spare parts is cheap if anything happen to your phone. ZL can play games better then Xperia Z and you don`t need to scare the heat of the phone make the behind glass lifted because ZL no glass hehe and its very secure.

For LG G2 if you want to buy then buy from this guy https://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?showtopic=2682044&hl= RM 1699 AP Set. If not mistaken LG G2 Malaysia very less sell. Not sure got Ori Set anot.

If compare to Z1 for me la Z1 screen better than G2 with their TRILUMINOUS and X-Reality display. The Design of Z1 looks square abit with aluminum material makes Z1 more sturdy and good. LG G2 is plastic if i am not mistaken.

See here compare LG G2 vs Z1 http://www.gsmarena.com/compare.php3?idPho...6&idPhone2=5543

+ Z1 now only Android 4.2 and 4.3 and 4.4 is coming soon without date notice.

LG G2 already seeding their 4.4 Update to users and the good thing is they skip 4.3 http://www.gsmarena.com/android_44_kitkat_...2-news-7288.php
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QUOTE(raven143 @ Nov 30 2013, 11:43 AM)
yo guys, sister bought the ZL recently and had the GPS lock problem. Thing is that she lost the warranty card along with the box :sigh: , but i manage to register the phone online immediately after purchase. still can send for warranty claim?
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Can they will check the IMEI number on the server to check the date of warranty registered.
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QUOTE(diaBoliQu3 @ Nov 30 2013, 01:51 PM)
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Hi, thanks for the long reply...  thumbup.gif If AP set, maybe I will get Z1 since it's RM 1799 IINM, and aluminum casing, and better cam. But Z1 is waterproof right, I afraid the overheating issue will happen with Z1 again. Hmmm... Yeah, ZL looks like the best bang for buck here, and win in every aspect though not the best. And will be Note 2 upgrade right, spec wise? And seems like Sony ahead in updates compared to Samseng.
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Just remind you if you want to get Xperia Z1 get the dock charger together so you will be hassle free. BTW Z1 is waterproof phone and the great feature there is the 3.5mm jack is not covered by flaps so no need to open and close the flaps when you want to pluck in earphones to listen to musics.

Do remember do not call Samsung as Samseng respect each other brand because every brand have their own pro and cons.

If you buy ZL its an upgrade in terms of screen resolutions, camera megapixel increase, better graphics, and IRDA system.

Cons is you lose S-Pen feature, Multi Windows, Big Screen and Air View system.

If you buy Z1 its an upgrade for overall spec but you still lose S-Pen / Air View / Big Screen feature.

The Multi Window feature is in Z1 and not in ZL is because ZL only supports 1 Mini Apps per times while Z1 supports until your screen is full.

Not sure the coming android 4.3 update will make it enabled to use more mini apps per time anot.
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QUOTE(JeffChong @ Nov 30 2013, 06:10 PM)
Just curious the battery consumption of ZL is greater than iphone 4 by alot ? I just compared my ZL with fren's ip4. Both phone just listening song without wifi on
(ZL dropped 11% in 3hr30mins) while (ip4 just dropped 4% in 5hr26mins)
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Music playlist sama ke tidak. STAMINA mode ada on or not. And by the way compare with an android phone la why with apple its different OS la bro. Both system voltage is different calibrated with their system and IP4 is a Single core smart phone manakala Xperia ZL is quadcore sure eats more battery la.

Etc i bawak Ferrari compare with your Kancil see which car drink more petrol.

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QUOTE(diaBoliQu3 @ Nov 30 2013, 06:31 PM)
Thanks, and again so detail. thumbup.gif Why dock charger? hmm.gif All come with dock charger or not? So no USB charger for Z1? And can bring to swim or not since the 3.5mm is not covered? I think I read everything about the phone but still many to read. doh.gif

I will keep my Note 2 so I don't think will lose the feature. Wow, Z1 really an upgrade. I was going to buy from below link until you highlight all the pro and con that I never think or read off.:
http://www.lelong.com.my/xperia-zl-free-gi...4-02-Sale-P.htm

RM1k different from Z1. And Sony Malaysia warranty should be Chorus right?
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I don`t have Z1 yet and i am not sure weather when buy Z1 does it comes with the dock. Actually the dock is to help you to charge the phone without opening the flaps when you need to charge your phone.

Just google it either Sony Xperia Z1 dock or Sony Xperia Z1 magnetic cable.

Swim only no scare.

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QUOTE(anarchy2cruo @ Nov 30 2013, 11:21 PM)
I am also been in dilemma choosing z or zl. Just now went sony store tested both. I found that xz screen color much better compare to xzl. How come? I set brightness to 100% for both and turned on BE2 also. Colors on xz more vibrant and nicer. The only differents are the os which xz and xzl are 4.2 and 4.1 respectively. Could it be the android version that make its different? Possible? Or the screen maker? rclxub.gif
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Did you go to settings > display and check this make sure both the same ( 0.0 ) and if the differences still there means both phone display are made from different panels brands.

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OS will play a important role also because when updates come they will bring major or minor fix on graphic in order to bring up the phone graphic performance.

You cant see BE2 kicking in normal menu or apps. You can see the changes of BE2 kicking in album, movies, browsing internet, YouTube and those things that related to text rendering, flash, GIF, Graphic, Pictures, Videos and Animation.

I tried play 1080p Videos with 60 fps 18 000k bitrate and 16:9 aspect ratio in both phone with the same videos with 100% brightness and BE2 engine on and i can say both ZL and Z are equals the same if the display panels made by the same company. But if it is a different panels then automatically can see differences.





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post Dec 1 2013, 12:27 AM

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QUOTE(raven143 @ Nov 30 2013, 06:43 PM)
what he said is true. other than that i experience stronger cell reception with ZL compared to Note 2. Other disadvantageous migrating from note 2 is the screen contrast. Albeit the 720p display on Note 2, it has brighter and color rich compared to ZL when compared side by side. But once the photos are uploaded in the PC, ZL wins just a notch with sharpness. Just saying the TFT display disadvantageous compare to Note 2 AMOLED.

Real world experience there has not much difference compared to Note 2. I feel the Note 2 (rooted 4.3) is a tad snappier than ZL (most probably OS wise). Once both get android 4.4 then can compare on a level plane.

So far i have been happy with ZL, due to the strong cell, speed and compact form factor. Awesome phone for those who Ingress. LOL.
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At phone display sometimes i very respect Samsung they can make the colour super vibrant like korean girls plastic surgery.

Like Samsung Galaxy Note 3 play SNSD MV in 2560p resolutions with those crazy colours really the mind can blow off. Its like you were in SNSD world. Cant resist those temptation. brows.gif sweat.gif
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post Dec 1 2013, 07:55 PM

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Wootz hope this will not happen to our Xperia ZL or Z in Android 4.4 KitKat

http://blog.gsmarena.com/android-4-4-kitka...4-3-jelly-bean/
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post Dec 2 2013, 10:54 PM

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QUOTE(archangel1989 @ Dec 2 2013, 10:13 PM)
sifus here..i just want to ask...usually how many day to take if sent phone to service centre?..mine already a week and no news for my phone..im using xperia ZL..right now everyday task like slow since im always sync my schedule,email and etc into the phone...

if taken soo long..might buy secondary phone...xperia L maybe...
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Minor issue 1 to 2 weeks.
Major issue 2 weeks to 1 Month.

1 Month is the max and if they still can`t settle your phone then either they pay full refund or exchange new units.
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QUOTE(efariz @ Dec 2 2013, 10:55 PM)
my XZL takes almost 2 months  doh.gif  doh.gif
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That time you should ask them to refund you. Go there act nice nice then bising bising abit make them scare then they will surely use alternative solution to solve your problem.

The best is the counter serve you is a lady then easy to convince them.

If that is a guy who serve you then susah abit.
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QUOTE(ChuanHong @ Dec 2 2013, 03:27 PM)
actually BE2 and X-reality effects will only notice when u surfing album and movie apps.. youtube got affected as well.. normal homescreen was no effect at all..
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Bro your SP Diamond last time i bought from you now got abit scratch on the side edi leh. Don`t know how it happens suddenly notice by today morning.

Being buzy whole day now only can reply forum...

Send me your bank info i want to buy Xperia Z Diamond SP 1 unit. Sadding now suddenly got scratch even i don`t know how it happen cry.gif cry.gif cry.gif

See nice nice whole screen :-

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Then got 1 scratch at the side :-

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QUOTE(ChuanHong @ Dec 2 2013, 11:48 PM)
k done.. pls check inbox.. LOL.. me also no idea..
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QUOTE(monocle @ Dec 3 2013, 10:55 AM)
Is there any indication when we will get 4.3? Mid dec or late dec?

I want camera improvements
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I got feelings December will for Xperia Z1 and Z Ultra then following January only will be out Z and ZL.

Now edi 3rd December no leaks or news at all zzz.

The things that they need to improve is camera, sound, multitask small apps, and new UI like Z1
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post Dec 3 2013, 08:16 PM

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This phone nearly same as Xperia Z.

http://www.gsmarena.com/oppo_r1_teaser_is_...s-news-7305.php
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post Dec 8 2013, 10:07 PM

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Wrong Post.

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post Dec 9 2013, 11:23 PM

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See :- http://www.xperiablog.net/2013/12/07/xperi...reenshots-leak/

Xperia ZL android 4.3 ScreenShot.
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QUOTE(wind3524 @ Dec 9 2013, 11:27 PM)
I had posted it #227
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Sry i slow poke sweat.gif

Just come back home and do some google and just found it so i just post it up. Never notice that the thread grow so fast in few days.
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QUOTE(emkay @ Dec 10 2013, 08:55 AM)
Google service is messing around in 4.2.2. normally it use about 6% of the battery. Lately it has gone up to 30%-35% in battery usage. Other thing is, satellites lock up is very poor in ZL. My previous SGW can lock up with the satellites even in my living room or while walking. Is there any setting that can make it lock up faster?
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Even in Xperia Z also sometimes mine take up to several minutes to lock up with the satellites.

For my Samsung takes few seconds only.

Hopes 4.3 updates comes with fix updates. Alot of things in Xperia Z and ZL has to be fix. Etc when calling suddenly got weird noise come out, music even good quality also speaker cant perform well, GPS takes very long to connect to get signal, camera quite alot of noise in picture, weak battery performance sometimes, and many more.
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QUOTE(delsoo @ Dec 10 2013, 11:53 AM)
Wats wrong with your zl? My zl can lock up with the satellite in just few seconds...
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Mine not ZL. Mine is Z.
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QUOTE(monocle @ Dec 10 2013, 11:10 AM)
Are you on Data?
My GPS locks almost instantly with data, when i use Google Maps navigation.

The only fix i wish for is improve camera performance in low light..
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I on Data when i need to use it and when i use Waze applications seems to take quite long time to get signal from satellite. Fastest 1 minutes. Slowest takes up to 10 minutes before.

I am on UMobile so not so sure it will affect the connection anot.

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