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marfccy
post Jan 29 2014, 02:58 AM

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QUOTE(Mr.Docter @ Jan 29 2014, 12:19 AM)
Just a really quick question,

Will Jonsbo V3+ ITX fit Sapphire 7870XT perfectly?
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dont think so, based on the main site, its dimensions are 200MM(W) x 230MM(H) x 210MM(D)

based on the width itself, converted to inches (HD7870XT should be close to 11") will give you 7.8" which means youll be short of 3.2" (more as nobody likes a extremely snug fit)
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post Mar 6 2014, 09:54 PM

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QUOTE(coolkwc @ Mar 6 2014, 09:47 AM)
Hi, can someone recommend me the below component?
I still stay in Core2 ancient era, i din follow up much since i7 until the new Haswell architecture now. Now i'm still read article from various hardware site.

Purpose of rig: Mainly for editing photo (photoshop, lightroom, which stretch my OC 3.3Ghz QX6850 to its knee), HD video playback (using SVP manager to increase frame rate from 24/30Hz video into 75Hz framerate in real time, make my current proc scream)

Budget: RM3-3.5k for few components below, OC oriented.

CPU: Target i7 3570k or i7 4770k (Which one is overclocking friendly??)
From what i know, Haswell integrate VR into proc, which makes the proc run very hot under load when OC. However Ivy-B employ lousier TIM between spreader and die which make it equally ugly too when under load. Anyway, Ivy-B is around 300++ cheaper than Haswell.

Mobo: I really have no idea for the mobo. After LGA 775, the socket types start to deviate untill i can't catch up. But for Ivy-B, i have to opt for 60 and 70 series chipset, and the choice is very less nowadays.
For Haswell, alot of choice on Z87 chipset, which also make me very headache. I need a midrange mobo that can OC my proc resonable. I dun need those extra features such as those onboard creative sound card, just a rock solid midrange mobo that can OC my proc reasonably. Budget target around 600-700. Better if cheaper.

RAM:
OK, from what i know last time we mess with FSB, so we can fine tune memory clock. The architecture now is set by ratio/multiplier, so up one step, we will need a memory with higher stock frequency. So memory is crucial in OC. Am i right? Any recommendation? I don need top performance RAM with lowest latency, just need a RAM that could keep up with my OC'ed proc. Minimum capacity is 8GB, as lightroom and mozilla open at the same time can consume me up to 6GB of RAM. I turn off virtual memory all the time.

Water cooling:
My rig now also using custom water cooling (7.5 years ago), however the CPU block leaking yesterday, thats why today i'm asking new system here. Anyway, i will still go to water cooling system, any recommendation? I have pump and radiator, if i just change CPU block is it possible? How about brand new water cooler system? Any recommendation? Budget 500-600.

GPU:
Using 6870 now, will remained this card in my new rig, seldom gaming.

HDD:
1TB HDD, 128GB SSD, will remained as well and no plan to buy additional one.

PSU:
Silverstone Strider Essential 500W, no plan to upgrade, hopefully can cope with new system with reasonable OC.

Please give your valuable input. Thanks in advance.
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CPU - there is no i7 3570K, there is i5 3570K only laugh.gif performance wise, Haswell is a mere 5-10% faster than Ivy-B, so better take new model. cooling performance wise, Haswell is no better than Ivy-B, Intel still using the same method of TIM application inside the die

MOBO - im not sure much about the OC capability of the mobo ive picked below, but i daresay you can overclock decently with that mobo

RAM - i picked a decently speed RAM with high capacity as well, 16GB, so you shouldnt have any more problems of running out of memory nor having slow RAM speeds

WC - this is subjective as you might favour DIY WC kits instead. but Corsair H100i is a well known performer, so im suggesting that to you too

try this setup

Intel Core i7 4770K RM1089
Asrock Z87M Pro4 RM349
Corsair Vengence Pro PC1866 RM719
reuse HDD, SSD
reuse GPU
reuse PSU, but not sure if youll require more juice if you perform heavy OC
Corsair H100i AIO WC kit RM449
Corsair 350D RM345
Total: RM2951

PS: forgive me if i seem inclined to Corsair products, but they are good afterall tongue.gif
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post Mar 7 2014, 11:59 AM

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QUOTE(coolkwc @ Mar 7 2014, 09:17 AM)
Thanks bro.

I read alot of reviews yesterday, come out with the selection very similar to ur recommended.

1. i7 4770K
2. Asrock Extreme4 Motherboard OR
    GIGABYTE Z87X-UD3H OR (Damn expensive)
    ASUS Z87-PRO
3. RAM wise, might stick to your recommendation speed. Brand wise is OK for me, see which one cheaper.

As for WC, still in review research.
In my mind now got Swiftech H220, Thermaltake Water 3.0 Extreme and Corsair H100i.
Chew Yongxian May i know where can i get the Swiftech H220? I stay at JB, and will go to Genting from next Friday until Sunday, between i will go to KL Lowyat Plaza to hunt for my rig component, can you tell me which shop carry this WC kit? I download few price list, i only saw C-ZONE carry alot of coolers, but still i couldn't see Swiftech H220.

As for Thermaltake water 3.0 Extreme, price around 399, the performance is better than Swiftech H220 in max fan power, but at the expense of noise. However 3.0 Extreme fan and bump speed can controlled by software (Through internal USB connection), which is attractive too.

For Corsair H100i, the performance is quite similar to Thermaltake water 3 extreme, but the price is higher. Also come with control software.

Casing wise, can i get something decent under RM200? Corsair 350D is overkill IMO. tongue.gif
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its one of the best casing i can recommend, mATX size (which means compact) but yet can be fitted with dual fan radiators and comes with great cable management features thumbup.gif

but if you insist,

perhaps these might suit you

Corsair 300R RM299
NZXT Phantom 410 RM350-400

just bear in mind that lower end cases might be unable to be fitted with a dual fan radiator. the ones i suggested above are not bad, despite the pricing
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post Mar 7 2014, 12:08 PM

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QUOTE(coolkwc @ Mar 7 2014, 12:04 PM)
mATX? sweat.gif  Dun really need the compactness, it will cook my hardware in long run. Prefer ATX or Full ATX casing.
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its no longer about the size that defines the cooling potential

the specifications are as provided
2 front 140mm fans, 1 rear 120mm fan, can be added up to 5 fans total

http://www.corsair.com/en-us/obsidian-seri...cro-atx-pc-case

which means the cooling potential isnt compromised. not to mention as youre using a single card, the airflow will not be obstructed.
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post Mar 14 2014, 05:32 AM

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QUOTE(sasivarman @ Mar 14 2014, 03:14 AM)
Dear Gurus of Hardwares,

I have been tasked to build a upgradable desktop tower (only tower without displays and accessories), for sole purpose of computing for my R&D job.
I know I can go bonkers with double graphic cards and extreme editions of everything, but the budget is limited for phase one.

So Phase 1:
- compatible latest motherboard
- i7 with humble price (no need max Ghz/cores)
- 16GB ram with good speed
- 128 GB SSD with good speed
- And the GPU headache
-----* must be nvidia GPU (i need CUDA)
-----* the best that can fit the price, must be expandable to dual configuration in future.
-----* not for gaming, but i need the best card possible anyway for GPU coding
-----* need to support 2560x1600 display
- casing/power etc - go for minimum possible, as I will not overclock.

I tried looking at lowyat price list etc, and my head is spinning.
Please help all the enlighten ones. What mb+cpu+gpu will you go for at USD 888 / MYR 3000.
You can give me pointers and I will go research more based on your advise.

Thanks.
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RM3k for workstation parts eh? this gonna be tough

Intel Xeon E3 1230 V3 RM799
Asrock Z87M Pro 4 RM349
Value RAM (prolly will be 1333MHz or 1600MHz variants) 2x8GB RM478
Plextor M5S 128GB RM289
Leadtek Quadro K600 RM849
FSP Raider 650W RM269
CM Elite 361 RM109
Total: RM3142

NOTE: i would suggest getting the entire PC budget on the spot then only purchase instead of going phase by phase. workstation parts are not cheap

EDIT: you can reduce the Power Supply Unit to a FSP Raider 550W RM239 as i dont think dual K600 will eat much power

This post has been edited by marfccy: Mar 14 2014, 05:36 AM
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post Mar 14 2014, 10:47 AM

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QUOTE(Cable707 @ Mar 14 2014, 09:03 AM)
I prefer GTX760 2GB instead of K600.. hmm.gif
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thats what i thought too, since GTX760 have more CUDA cores at the same price

however, does it perform better in rendering? hmm.gif
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post Mar 14 2014, 12:45 PM

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QUOTE(Cable707 @ Mar 14 2014, 12:44 PM)
The GTX760 has twice the ROPs (32 vs 16)..
And for the overall aspects,GTX760 beats K600 entirely.
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even if taking the driver's efficiency into account?

Quadro's drivers more workstation oriented afaik
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post Mar 14 2014, 01:53 PM

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QUOTE(Cable707 @ Mar 14 2014, 01:09 PM)
hmm.gif

Yup,usually Quadro's has much more stable drivers.I'm not really sure if wanna go for cheap K600..seems not worth it.ask goldfries smile.gif
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same here, i also had reservations about recommending Quadro K600

seems just not worth its price for its performance
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post Mar 14 2014, 09:54 PM

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QUOTE(andykok @ Mar 14 2014, 08:53 PM)
please give some suggestion ... don ignore me ==...

I've decided to buy XEON E3 1230 V3, but i am thinking what mobo(ATX) to buy.

my budget below RM450 (atx mobo) , and i wont OC my proc

hope you guys can recommend me =)

thank you =)
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just get the cheapest B85/H87 in ATX form will do. theres no need to go Z87 considering you said you wont OC processor

but if youre insecure about brand quality or have a particular colour theme you like to adhere to, here are some pointers

1. ASUS - blue and black for low-mid end mobos, red+black for high end (there is gold+black also). generally pricier than others but good buy nonetheless
2. Gigabyte - blue and white for low-mid end, green+black for high end (there might be other colors also). same as ASUS
3. MSi - blue and black for low-mid end, yellow+black for high end (though they have Gaming versions with red+black theme). less pricier than ASUS and Giga but not by much, good quality as well
4. Asrock - brown and black for low-mid, gold+black for high end (yellow also got). cheapest among all 4, but still comes with many features. though i find their motherboards abit too thin and may flex unnecessarily if not secured properly

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